Is this thing on?
Hi. I'm Julia, and I'm new (when I get to it, I blog here). Anyway, as long as I have you all here, I thought I'd take advantage of the opportunity to put in a bid for my favorite Giuliani scandal, which I think is being unjustly neglected.
It was doing so well, too. Remember this, from last week, when Mr. Kerik was indicted?
Bernard Kerik did an irresponsible job training police in Iraq, presidential contender John McCain said Friday, adding to criticism of Kerik as Rudy Giuliani's former police commissioner surrendered to face charges in New York.
McCain cited Kerik's relationship with his Republican presidential foe as a reason to doubt Giuliani's judgment.
Giuliani's longtime associate, business partner and friend surrendered Friday to face federal corruption charges in New York, where he had been police commissioner when Giuliani was mayor. Kerik was also a failed nominee to head the Homeland Security Department, a post Giuliani recommended him for.
McCain, a Republican senator from Arizona, pointed to Kerik's performance in Iraq, along with complaints about how Giuliani treated first-responders after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, as reasons why the former mayor's presidential campaign should deserve greater scrutiny from voters.
...
McCain campaigned on Friday with Tom Ridge, the former governor of Pennsylvania and the nation's first secretary of homeland security under President Bush.
"It was clear the mayor and I had a different view what the department does and the kind of leadership it needed," Ridge told reporters. "His judgment would've been different than mine."
He said the situation reflected a fundamental misunderstanding by Giuliani of how the U.S. government works.
"We're not talking about some urban city patronage job," Ridge told The Associated Press. "That's not what a Cabinet secretary's about."
Mr. Giuliani's campaign wasn't the least bit happy about that
Randy Mastro, a former New York deputy mayor, said it was unfair to base an opinion of Giuliani on one incident, citing his record as mayor on crime, jobs and cutting taxes.
"It's no fair to judge Rudy Giuliani on the basis of this one issue (any more) than it is to judge John McCain in the basis of the Keating scandal," said Mastro, who worked in Giuliani's administration. He added: "All the candidates should be judged on the totality of their records, not on any one single issue or incident.
Only it sorta faded out after that, which is when it occured to me that you folks who aren't from New York might not be enjoying this as much as I am. I feel bad about that, particularly since so many of the people who were involved are prominent in Mr. Giuliani's campaign.
So, here you go: a brief history of the Kerik unpleasantness.
Bernie Kerik, a high school dropout with a complicated past started out as Giuliani's bodyguard and driver, which apparently qualified him to become the head of Corrections and then Police Commissioner (Our Beloved Former Mayor is nothing if not a man who appreciates singleminded devotion to Our Beloved Former Mayor).
Unfortunately for all concerned, Mr. Kerik's devotion to his patron shared space with an equally fierce devotion to his own financial advancement. To that end, he got in contact with a friend, Mr. Ray.
Mr. Kerik earned $150,500 as commissioner but pleaded poverty. He turned to Lawrence V. Ray, a friend of a few years, who had an engaging manner and a big bankroll.
In 1998, Mr. Ray was the best man at Mr. Kerik’s wedding — and paid for much of the event. Weeks later, Mr. Kerik recommended Mr. Ray for a $100,000 job with Interstate Industrial Corporation, a New Jersey-based construction firm with tens of millions of dollars in city contracts.
Two years earlier, the owners, Peter and Frank DiTommaso, had paid more than $1 million to buy a transfer station from Edward Garafola, a mob soldier, and hoped to obtain a city operating license. But city investigators had found that the company employed mob figures and used mob-controlled trucking firms.
The DiTommasos, who adamantly and repeatedly have denied any ties to organized crime, hoped Mr. Ray could help resolve their problem with the Giuliani administration. Soon after being hired, Mr. Ray took Frank DiTommaso to meet with his friend the correction commissioner.
and why would Kerik put up with that?
Well, cynics thought it might have something to do with the fact that, after quite a bit of whining from Mr. Kerik, Mr. Ray paid for his wedding.
for many years, one of Kerik's main benefactors was Lawrence Ray, the best man at Kerik's 1998 wedding, according to Ray, other sources and checks shown by Ray to The News.
Ray and another Kerik pal, restaurant owner Carmen Cabell, helped bankroll Kerik's 1998 wedding reception, contributing nearly $10,000.
Ray also gave Kerik nearly $2,000 to buy a bejeweled Tiffany badge that Kerik coveted when he was Correction commissioner.
And Ray said he gave Kerik $4,300 more to buy high-end Bellini furniture when Kerik allegedly griped that he couldn't afford to furnish a bedroom for a soon-to-be born daughter.
and who are the DiTommasos? Jersey Gaming Enforcement had some stuff to say about that when they wanted to go to work in Atlantic City
The Attorney General noted that the complaint outlines how Gaming Enforcement presented information at the original Interstate hearing, and has since developed further information, that the DiTommaso brothers had ties to the DeCavalcante and Gambino organized crime families dating back to the 1980s. The complaint also charges that the DiTommasos gave false information to Division investigators in an attempt to mislead them concerning the DiTommasos’ relationship with former New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik, who was nominated as the United States Secretary of Homeland Security.
According to the complaint, Joseph Watts, a Gambino associate, and Dominic Borghese, a Gambino solider, met in the 1980s with Frank and Peter DiTommaso and were paid $60,000 for “protection,” including the handling of any union problems that arose at Interstate. The protection money was paid in two $30,000 installments, once in the summer and once at Christmas time.
In another instance outlined in the complaint, Anthony Capo, a cooperating witness for the federal government, had a conversation with another organized crime associate, Anthony Rotondo, in which Rotondo told Capo: “The DiTommasos were ‘with’ the DeCavalcante Family and its boss, John Riggi.” Capo was given employment by Frank DiTommaso at the recommendation of Rotondo, according to the complaint.
In the 1990s, Capo attempted to obtain work as a subcontractor for Interstate, but Capo was told by Watts that Capo could not get work because Interstate had become associated with the Gambino Family of LCN [La Cosa Nostra] through Watts.
In December 2004, a federal jury in New York convicted Peter Gotti and Thomas “Huck” Carbonaro on numerous counts, including Gambino Family racketeering involving corruption within the construction industry in New York. Three “made” members: Rotondo, Michael “Mickey Scars” DiLeonardo, a Gambino capo, and Frank Fappiano, a Gambino soldier, provided testimony for the Federal Government about “longstanding and knowing ties among the DiTommasos, Interstate and organized crime.”
“The Division presented evidence during the Interstate hearing in 2004 that the DiTommasos had a relationship with more than a dozen members and associates of organized crime and multiple organized crime-related businesses,” Director Auriemma said. “These witnesses’ testimony corroborates and substantiates much of the information that was presented by the Division at the hearing in 2004.”
On the other hand, they did give jobs to Mr. Ray and Mr. Kerik's brother, so he overlooked all that, and he was a great help to them
In July 1999, Mr. Kerik met in a bar with Raymond V. Casey, then the chief city regulator investigating Interstate, and another man, then the Correction Department inspector general, to talk about Interstate, according to court papers filed by New Jersey regulators. At that meeting, Mr. Kerik vouched for Mr. Ray’s integrity, and said he could be helpful to regulators in “alleviating their concerns about Interstate,” the court papers said.
Several months later, Mr. Kerik made his Correction Department office available for Mr. Ray to meet with two New York police investigators, a detective and a sergeant, who were assigned to Mr. Casey’s office and investigating Interstate.
Mr. Casey didn't approve Interstate for contracts. Mr. Casey (and Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Mastro) also said he never told Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Mastro, which seems a bit irresponsible of him, since Mr. Casey was a city official, Mr. Mastro was his boss, and Mr. Giuliani was (still is, I imagine) his cousin.
Mr. Mastro (now of the Giuliani campaign) has an Interstate connection of his own
Interstate Industrial Corporation hired former deputy mayor Randy Mastro, who served as Giuliani's top gun in chasing down mobbed up outfits doing business with the city. But Mastro said he never told his former boss—or anyone else—about what he learned of Kerik's dealings with the firm, including the former top cop's recommendation to the company that it hire a close pal named Larry Ray, who was later indicted in a mob stock fraud scam.
"Larry Ray predated my time. That had already occurred; he was gone," Mastro said. "There was no retrospective review."
Giuliani has said he knew nothing about Kerik's connection to Interstate until the recent explosion of news reports in the wake of Kerik's decision to withdraw as President Bush's nominee for Homeland Security director—a post he initially won with Giuliani's enthusiastic backing.
Mastro said he learned about Kerik's association with Interstate during his "two or three years" with the firm as a kind of inside watchdog, reviewing new deals and hires for any mob taint.
"At some point I was told by people at the company [about Kerik]," he said. "I don't recall exactly when."
Asked if he ever discussed the matter with Giuliani, Mastro said: "No. It wasn't an issue that I ever discussed with anyone."
which is to say that Matro knew about Kerik's issues when he endorsed him for Homeland Security Commissioner.
Of course, so did fellow DiTommaso supporter (and Giuliani NY campaign chair) Guy Molinari
Records reveal that Molinari signed up in April as a
$25,000-per-month lobbyist to represent Interstate Industrial Corporation, a company owned by two sons of a longtime friend and accused of doing business with the mob. The client is one of at least seven firms that have retained Molinari over the past year to represent their interests before city officials, filings in the City Clerk's office show....
Although he has met with only mixed success—the city's rejection of the allegedly mobbed-up firm was not overturned—records show Molinari has parlayed his connections into a lucrative lobbying practice.
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Molinari said customers have sought him out, not the other way around. The reason? "We are good at what we do," he said. Some clients, like Interstate Industrial Corporation, were already friends.
Interstate is the same firm that former city police commissioner Bernard Kerik advocated for while in office, and Molinari told the Voice that he went to bat for the company because he believed that owners Frank and Peter DiTommaso were "good people. I know them since they were kids." Molinari, 76, said that he had spent 40 years playing handball and volleyball with the DiTommasos' father and an uncle at a Mariner's Harbor athletic club the men jointly founded. "We had loads of fun," said Molinari. He is so close to the family, he added, that he was named godfather to a third son, David DiTommaso.
"Guy is a lifelong friend," Interstate president Frank DiTommaso told the Voice. "He knows me and my family intimately. He felt very bad for the way we were treated," he said.
But the agreement Molinari signed on April 29 to represent the DiTommasos was strictly business. The two-page letter called for the Molinari Group, as the former politician's firm is called, to provide "general consulting services" over a one-year period in exchange for a monthly $25,000 retainer plus expenses. At the time, Interstate had been rejected by three separate city agencies that cited a series of company transactions with members of the Gambino crime family. The company had appealed those determinations, but they were upheld by Bloomberg administration officials early last year.
The brothers then turned to Molinari.
"They had an interest in trying to be able to get back in good standing with the City of New York in terms of bidding for future work," he said. "I believe they had a very good record with the city in the past." To that end, Molinari said, he arranged meetings with Bloomberg aides on Interstate's behalf.
On July 14, city officials confirm, Molinari, the DiTommaso brothers, and their lawyers met with Department of Investigation commissioner Rose Gill Hearn and two top aides. Randy Mastro, who served as an anti-mob troubleshooter for the Giuliani administration and who was later hired by the DiTommasos to screen employees and subcontractors, also showed up at the meeting to vouch for the company's current operations. But DOI officials told the DiTommasos that in order to be "rehabilitated" they would have to acknowledge past misdeeds and take on an outside monitor to watchdog all future work.
Molinari said they got the same message at a subsequent meeting with Marla Simpson, the director of the Mayor's Office of Contract Services. "Essentially, we were advised after some time that it was not doable," Molinari said.
What city officials didn't tell Molinari or his clients, however, was that they had already received a preview of information concerning Interstate from a pair of mob informants who were due to take the stand at the murder conspiracy trial of Gambino boss Peter Gotti. One of those witnesses, Michael "Mikey Scars" DiLeonardo, testified in December that he "serviced" the DiTommasos for the Gambino crew, taking payoffs of more than $100,000 to help them avoid using union labor. DiLeonardo said some of the payoffs were laundered through a dirt-hauling firm that he later sold to the DiTommasos for $1.7 million.
Molinari said that after the city's rejection he ceased representing the company, but that he remained a supporter. "We tried our best," he said. "I still believe [the DiTommasos] are very responsible people."
In December, Molinari spoke out in defense of the DiTommasos after it was reported that Kerik had gotten the company to hire his brother and a close pal. But Molinari never mentioned his own paid work on behalf of the company.
A great deal of this came out, you may remember, when neither Mr. Giuliani nor anyone working for him saw fit to mention any of this to Mr. Gonzales, who was vetting Mr. Kerik to be the head of Homeland Security.
Oddly, they're still not bringing it up.
Where are they now? Well, Mr. Giuliani, Mr. Kerik, Mr. Mastro, and Mr. Molinari you know about.
The DiTommaso brothers go on trial for perjury in a Bronx court next week (they denied paying for Mr. Kerik's home renovations. He rolled over on them for a misdemeanor plea). They're currently doing construction on on Yankee Stadium for great and good Giuliani friend Mr. Steinbrenner.
Also this particular scandal doesn't put you at risk of having a mental image of the current Mrs. Giuliani.
Can't argue with that.
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Hi, Julia!
hey Julia - welcome to Late Nite
and Snarky!
SnarKassandra @ 3
lol :)
Doing my best Chris Crocker impression:
Leave Bernie Kerik alone!
-GSD
OK Cassie! Now go back and read the whole thing.
Hi Julia! I am Cassie. Welcome!
Giuliani is a freak.
Good post, Julia!
I’m only “sort of” here, it’s the end of the month and there’s much work to do…but, Hi!
wangdangdoodle @ 11
Well Duh! He is a republican!
Ooooh, keepin’ the pressure on! Love it, Julia.
Hey, is Guy Molinari Susan Molinari’s daddy? Chipette off the ol’ block.
Wow, Julia! Quite a mouthful…! *g*
wangdangdoodle @ 11
si signora!
Welcome, Julia! My daughter’s best friend is named Julia. (although she calls her hulia).
SnarKassandra @ 13
It does seem to be a prerequisite.
Welcome, Julia!
hello, Julia…
Wow! headspinning…!
I don’t think it’s too early for some Christmas music.
I wanna know Rudy’s position on shrub’s doozer of a pronunciation on how to fight AIDS today:
“Faith-based groups like these are the foot soldiers in the armies of compassion,” he said. “They are helping to defeat this epidemic one soul at a time.”
…..even for shrub, this one was special. Safe a soul, fight the epidemic.
A little ‘Changes’ is nice too…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Great stuff!
There’s enough fun here without “the Judiths” but they do make the whole scene sleazier (even when you don’t have to look at them).
Wouldn’t you love to sit in on the depositions in Regan’s lawsuit, assuming it gets that far?
Welcome to Late Night!
YOUTHinkLeft is back up and I have a new post at my place.
Way too much to unpack here.
Guy Molinari http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Molinari U.S. rep from Staten Island, succeded by his daughter Susan Molinari, who resigned in 1997.
cassie, your ‘my place’ link is to this page at the lake
Prairie Sunshine @ 14
Yeah, sure is, and he’s a piece of work. The Times beat him up a few years ago for wading into a judicial campaign and announcing that the Democratic candidate wasn’t morally fit for public office because she’s a lesbian.
I don’t want to fill up the thread - thank you as a group. Nice to be here.
IIRC, Susan Molinari married another rep. and they both later left the House. They are now lobbyists….fitting.
Thanks Suzanne. I fixed it.
Thought I was going nuts when Kenrik resigned after 3 months of Iraqi troop training, claiming he had done his job. Followed by Sec of Homeland Security. Both of those were during my pre-FDL days, so I had no reality checks.
Julia @ 29
so, were you warned about us here on late nite? (laughing)
SnarKassandra @ 1
Hey - you probably don’t remember, but we crossed comments here a few months ago. It’s nice to see you again.
The pressure of increasing data is building in the lefty blogs; any guess if/when the MSM dam on this stuff will break?
Thought I was going nuts when Kenrik resigned after 3 months of Iraqi troop training, claiming he had done his job.
fill wheelbarrow.
wheelbarrow to plane.
plane go bye bye.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 36
either that or he figured the jig was up and they were onto his lying application.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 36
bricks of cash?
Blub @ 22
good lord.
soldiers army = compassion
epidemic faith = defeat
Jane (nyc) @ 30
Suzie and her husband, Mr. Paxon, are hooked up with one of the groups that laundered Abramoff money for Republican congressmen.
He’s best known for being the only member of the Republican leadership who was fired for the attempted coup against Gingrich (as well as an unusual number of rumors about his personal life)
Personally, he’s always pissed me off because he got a lot of press for being A New Man because he took his daughter to work once a week and let his staff take care of her.
Welcome Julia, and thanks for filling in so many “John Doe” blanks wrt the indictment, which I am updating right now! Do you know who the “wealthy Israeli industrialist whose companies did business with the federal government” is?
I’ve been waiting and waiting for this stuff to get out — thank you Julia. These guys are just gangsters.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 36
Hmmm… I wonder how many duffel bags he left with, duffel bags are traditionally not inspected by the USAF… ;-)
bricks of cash?
artifacts from the baghdad museums
manuscripts from the libraries
rare ancient stuff
looted for private collectors
like quantrell’s raiders on the loose
or maybe
the james gang without any robin hood mythologizing
Hiya and welcome, Julia. Gonna love me some more of this kind of stuff!
I swear to goD, I’m so tired of the politics of who’s got their c*ck where and for how much. Won’t somebody think of the children?
btw; this is an amazingly informative thread.
what details about ghouliani’s new york.
man that guy is so………….tony soprano
Julia @ 40
Susan’s wiki ends with saying that she might be a R candidate for NYC mayor in 10. Bwahahahaha.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Molinari
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 46
but not as nice.
the names in the current stories are Eitan Wertheimer and Shimon Cohen
tony was likeable ……if you didn’t fook with him………
Suzanne @ 33
Nah, I’ve been reading here for ages.
Julia!
Good to see you here and congrats!
I hope you don’t mind if I also take a hit off that Giuliani schadenfreude bong you’re passin’ around.
Fwwwwwwwwwwwwwph!
(In a Gene Wilder/Waco Kid falsetto) Ohhh my, but that’s good! :)
Julia @ 51
We may bite… ;-)
Welcome, Julia!
Re: Kerik’s short stay in Iraq, I can’t find the link but I saw a story this week quoting one of his co-workers there who said Kerik planned the three months from the get-go. Kerik’s computer had, as screensaver, a photo of his new house under construction, to be finished in three months.
“So you’re basically in Iraq until your house is ready,” the co-worker said to him, and Kerik supposedly answered with a nod and a wink.
CTuttle @ 53
i only bite cookies
CTuttle @ 53
ct, don’t make me put my hands on my hips now… ya gotta make nice for her first post here on friday nites so she comes back next week
LowerManhattanite @ 52
I know not that of which you speak :(
Hey, hon. Nice to see you.
Julia @ 49
Duly noted. Thank you!
OT, but when I see something like this go up late on a Friday, I know something’s up:
“Dems Reach Deal on Energy Bill”
And sho nuff…
Meanwhile it became increasingly likely - though not yet certain - that Democratic leaders will abandon attempts to repeal nearly $16 billion in tax breaks to the oil industry as had been approved by the House earlier this year
And as usual, the “compromises” essentially make this bill meaningless. 35mpg in the next decade or two?!?! Does Detroit not see the Japanese companies profiting immensely from hybrids while Detroit loses billions each Quarter? Oh, and newsflash to Big Auto: The “green movement” is growing rapidly and showing signs it’s just getting started.
Seems clear that the public is demanding better environmental products, especially autos. In fact, the market is proving that. Yet, the old auto companies still seem completely obblivious to this fact, and are trying to conduct business in the same ways that have driven them into financial ruin.
Roger Smith, from Michael Moore’s “Roger & Me,” just died, and Detroit seems intent on following suit. I guess we’ll just hope Toyota, Honda, etc. keep opening factories in America as they have been, and providing many good-paying jobs for Americans. Now we just need to get unions organized at more of these plants.
I keep hearing New Yorkers snigger and say you just wait, there’s more, you’re gonna love it.
I just can’t get over how blatant they are. It’s been in the papers, it’s old news, do they honestly think no one will remember, and if it does come up they can make it go away, just like that?
Oh, look…they’ve just re-re-re-arrested those Dutch guys in Aruba.
Suzanne @ 56
Aww, I wouldn’t scare ‘em off, I enjoy the cat-’n-mouse too much… *g*
LowerManhattanite @ 52
i had been wondering how to type that sound (laughing - thanks)
Thank you, Julia, for a very informative post.
is that LowerManhattanite from GroupNewsBlog in the thread? Wow! One of my current blogging heros.
Good evening all. Welcome Julia.
Just saw this on the same topic:
Kerik Approved “Security” Detail For Rudy’s Girlfriend’s Family
from TalkLeft by Big Tent Democrat
Via Kagro, it gets worse:
[Rudy Giuliani’s then- girlfriend when he was married to Donna Hanover, Judi] Nathan’s detail was approved by the NYPD after a stranger made an unspecified threat to her. The commissioner at the time was Bernard Kerik, who was recently indicted on tax fraud charges in an unrelated matter. “It wasn’t about her being the mayor’s girlfriend,” Kerik said. “The person spoke to her by name and made comments to her.”
Kerik signed off on all of this. Makes Rudy’s support for Kerik, even after being informed of his alleged criminal activities, easier to understand.
http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r.....3289584/24
Meanwhile it became increasingly likely - though not yet certain - that Democratic leaders will abandon attempts to repeal nearly $16 billion in tax breaks to the oil industry as had been approved by the House earlier this year
im personally consumed by nancymania, and harrymania
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 65
mania or anger?
CD @ 54
Now I’m not surprised, but boy was I shocked at the time. How quickly we learn to be cynical.
angermania!!!
Hi Betsy! Saw fire trucks at your school Wednesday evening on my way home.
Ah yes, it was a drill.
TexBetsy @ 70
Sure made me slow down and do the speed limit!
;)
TexBetsy @ 70
TB, did you do snacks, by any chance? If so, I missed them. In the mood for somthing salty.
Big Brother is watching me. Gotta go to bed. Ugh!
Bye.
For your listening pleasure.
SnarKassandra @ 72
a chance from aunt petunia (laughing) g’nite cassie
Sweet dreams, Cassie.
(((Mwah!)))
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 68
Hopefully you’re not pulling yer hair out, otherwise you might hafta bust into the Shack’s inventory.
SnarKassandra @ 73
G’nite, Cassie.
Once she split from hubby Bruce, Ms. Nathan was so blatantly manhunting that she probably had not yet learned how to “turn it off”. I’ll bet Rudy wanted her monitored.
He was probably worried she would be as bad as he is. Am certain his minions reported on her behavior.
The real victim during this time was her poor daughter. She had a really rough go of it.
SnarKassandra @ 72
They’re most intrusive, aren’t they… Nite, Missie!
Tortilla soup. (We had some for dinner.) Feel free to add corn chips.
Jane (nyc) @ 79
Jane
A few of us are planning a NYC meet up. Date TBD. Would you like to join us?
much nicer looking than the chicken tortilla soup i had wed. thanks tex
TexBetsy @ 80
With the avocado? Yummm…
TexBetsy @ 81
That looks fabulous. Thanks.
i wonder if judy (i refuse to call her judith) is screeching in rudy’s ears with ‘i told you to be more careful but no, you had it taken care of and covered and i’ll never be able to wear my tiara like nancy raygun‘
eCAHNomics @ 82
Would love to if I’m in town. Continue to be stuck in rural NC tending to my elderly mother.
Talk about living a dichotomous life! Would love to meet up if I’m around. I’m glued to the keyboard down here. The FDLers are preserving my sanity.
wangdangdoodle @ 74
I have missed you, WWD! I didn’t know Dinah Shore had it in her!
Jane (nyc) @ 79
Jane, where do you live? I grew up in Manhattan, and I’m still in the city limits, but I’m afraid I’m tunnel traffic now.
OTOH, there’s the back yard thing. I never appreciated, as a city kid, that if you have yard all the snow that falls in it is Your Snow.
bonkers @ 59
U.S. corporations, their boards, and their CEOs are judged on near-term dividends.
Jane (nyc) @ 87
OK. email me at rosannecahn at aol dot com. I’ll keep you on the list, and if you’re here, all the better. We have 3 now, hoping for a couple more.
Suzanne @ 86
hehehe! Let the mascara flow down the face.
Jane (nyc) @ 87
Bless you, for your sacrifice… *g*
So Julia, you’re in metro area too? Would you like to join a FDL meet-up? My email is in 91.
Julia @ 89
Live on the UWS but have worked downtown and kid went to school on UES. Have pretty much traversed the city on a daily basis in the 26 years there.
Whew! What a day, huh? Lordy.
Loo Hoo. @ 88
Me too you and me neither!
Loo Hoo. @ 95
yeap, a week of highs and lows but its friday night and the weekend is finally here