Hillary says she is not playing the gender card, wants to play the winning card. People are attaching because I’m ahead, Kitchen comment again.
An issue we can laugh about, because of the progress in America over my lifetime. A woman, an African American a Latino.
She is excited about this being history making. I’m not running because I am a woman. Parents bring daughters, old women come wanting to see the first chance of a woman president in America.
The MSM address issues? Not in my recent lifetime. Look at the nightly news and the BIG newspapers (you know who I’m talking about). There’s constructively NOTHING about issues. Feh.
Damn it. Any one of these candidates is better than a Republic. I hope they are smart enough and strong enough to battle the coming dishonesty, disinformation, and misdirections from the Republic Party and its media toadies.
I missed it too. He was talking about how the voters deserve to know the differences between the candidates….
What’d we miss?
Bet we’ll her it again, tho.
Something makes me think it might be his ufo moment. The pundits said DK’s ufo answer was the end of his candidacy, but I think it was nothing more than a blip, but one which got a lot of coverage.
Those Boos could possibly work in his favor. Maybe.
noted Obama said we needed “improved nuclear” to solve energy crisis … argh
The nuclear navy as sailed for decades with nearly zero problems. The know-how exists, but perhaps it’s part of the government and not the private sector. That’s blasphemy to Republics, but they live in a fantasy world.
noted Obama said we needed “improved nuclear” to solve energy crisis … argh
The nuclear navy as sailed for decades with nearly zero problems. The know-how exists, but perhaps it’s part of the government and not the private sector. That’s blasphemy to Republics, but they live in a fantasy world.
It’s the nuclear waste, not the plants. Navy probably just dumps it in the ocean.
Do either of you think she’s beyond “The Establishment” ?
Now very far. I did however see a couple of glimpses of genuine feeling - in answer to the gender issue for example and about the insurance industry - that made me think there may yet be some principles in there.
The nuclear navy as sailed for decades with nearly zero problems. The know-how exists, but perhaps it’s part of the government and not the private sector. That’s blasphemy to Republics, but they live in a fantasy world.
It’s the nuclear waste, not the plants. Navy probably just dumps it in the ocean.
Blitzer played a lot of Gotcha early - demanding yes or no answers on driver licenses for immigrants, nafta, china trade. Blitzer attemting to nail the dems with rethug points - security or human rights. A false dichotomy.
I can’t imagine that the republicans in their debates are pounded thusly. Is Media Matters keeping score? Blitzer is a right wing tool. So is John Facelift Roberts.
Audience questions. Son had 3 terms in Iraq, and now they’re talking Iran. How are you going to show us leadership on Iran?
Biden, Hillary voted for calling Revolutionary guard a terrorist organization. Caused the Muslim world to think we hate Islam. If Bush takes us to war in Iran, he should be impeached.
O thank you! The mother of an Iraq marine vet (3 tours) asking what the candidates will do to stop the ratcheting up of the Iran rhetoric. Her son (standing next to her who said bring the troops home now!) is in Marine IRR and would be called up.
Biden says Kyl-Lieberman bad
HRC saying her vote not a concern but the current admin is.
Sorry about that “undecided” comment — I flash to national electoral politics when I hear that… I trust we’re all decided on the Democrats? [hangs head in shame]
Clinton, no fear on Iran. Working with Congress to make sure Bush knows there is no authorization for war with Iran. Diplomacy. Immediately begin, without asking them to give up goals of nuclear power. Get china and the rest of the world with us. The Revolutionary Guard has helped kill Americans. Get tough on diplomacy.
Blitzer played a lot of Gotcha early - demanding yes or no answers on driver licenses for immigrants, nafta, china trade. Blitzer attemting to nail the dems with rethug points - security or human rights. A false dichotomy.
I can’t imagine that the republicans in their debates are pounded thusly. Is Media Matters keeping score? Blitzer is a right wing tool. So is John Facelift Roberts.
I certainly do not like the way the questions are framed, however, many of them are pertinent, irregardless of the framing…
Blitzer played a lot of Gotcha early - demanding yes or no answers on driver licenses for immigrants, nafta, china trade. Blitzer attemting to nail the dems with rethug points - security or human rights. A false dichotomy.
I can’t imagine that the republicans in their debates are pounded thusly. Is Media Matters keeping score? Blitzer is a right wing tool. So is John Facelift Roberts.
Republics will be allowed to scream about these issues without being required to offer a coherent and implementable solution.
So far both Biden & Clinton have missed the Iran answer: “Iran has indicated that they are open to a grand bargain on several occassions, and the Bush administration has spurned their overatures. I would pursue this track.”
Sorry about that “undecided” comment — I flash to national electoral politics when I hear that… I trust we’re all decided on the Democrats? [hangs head in shame]
no problem. and quite frankly, i’m a little frustrated myself for my inability to figure out who i think would be a good president… so - i’m not gonna give you a hard time if you are frustrated with me too. *g*
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Okay, I’m gonna drag my knuckles here for a minute. Does HRC overcompensate for being a female by displaying testicular tendencies of state-sanctioned violence?
our candidates are going to have to find a way to explain why they are gonna need a whole lot of money to rebuild the military and replace all the equipment.
Question, disparity in pay between contractors and soldiers.
richardson says he would pull out the contractors and the soldiers. Two more divisions in marines and army. Take care of education and healthcare for veterans. Mental health care.
Okay, I’m gonna drag my knuckles here for a minute. Does HRC overcompensate for being a female by displaying testicular tendencies of state-sanctioned violence?
Quick off-topic heads-up, that this morning’s Senate Judiciary Committee business meeting to amend FISA will be broadcast on C-SPAN 2 starting at about 10 p.m. Eastern tonight. [C-SPAN came through…]
WooHoo.
I’m second? Wow!
Just flipped to debate. Obama had a good retort.
let dennis talk!
Third?
My Idol, is getting the short end of the stick…
What does France do with nuclear waste?
According to the Dodd clock it would seem to be Obama’s night — he’s got even more time than Wolfie. But Richardson? I’m baffled….
Obama called Wolf out on being negative wrt energy. Best Obama I have ever seen!
noted Obama said we needed “improved nuclear” to solve energy crisis … argh
Richardson is hitting the truth on nuclear right now! No nuclear until we know how to clean the waste.
Kucinich is having trouble getting a word in edgewise, as usual. Obama gets twice DK’s air time.
Bob in HI
Oh, Jeez….the “old boys club” junk… [gag]
bobschacht @ 12
Sadly, So!
Ugh… the old boys club card and all that being brought up.
Well, it’s was bound to.
Catfight!!!
Siun @ 10
boy you got that right!
Clinton: If you can’t stand the heat stay out of the kitchen & I’m comfortable in the kitchen. She missed adding: but not baking cookies.
Good one Hill!
Most of HRC questions are questions about campaign, not policy.
Frequently questins to other candidates are about HRC’s campaign.
Get back to the freaking issues, dammnit.
Oilfieldguy @ 16
Yee-haw! ‘Glass-Ceiling!’
Just got home. What’s going on?
Very classy & poised reply on the gender issue.
“improved nuclear”
It’s the most expensive way to boil water ever conceived.
It’s the nuclear waste that’s the problem and there’s no real solution.
First, the anti-gay preacher and now this…
Her best moments here.
Clinton did just fine on the “boys club” question.
Clinton on boy’s club. Gender.
Hillary says she is not playing the gender card, wants to play the winning card. People are attaching because I’m ahead, Kitchen comment again.
An issue we can laugh about, because of the progress in America over my lifetime. A woman, an African American a Latino.
She is excited about this being history making. I’m not running because I am a woman. Parents bring daughters, old women come wanting to see the first chance of a woman president in America.
wangdangdoodle @ 22
Heh, surely you jest! ;-)
eCAHNomics @ 7
good question.And Japan?
Hiya WDD!
Edwards getting booed on…. ??
What did Edwards get booed for? Missed it.
Uh oh. Boos for Edwards. :(
Steve-AR @ 29
IIRC France buries most of its waste in Normandy. I don’t know about Japan.
Edwards got a dig in at HRC…that’s what got the boos.
AnnieW @ 20
The MSM address issues? Not in my recent lifetime. Look at the nightly news and the BIG newspapers (you know who I’m talking about). There’s constructively NOTHING about issues. Feh.
Have to admit, I’m feeling more and more comfortable about Senator Clinton.
Shocking.
demi @ 33
Yeah I missed it too. Anyone catch it?
Clinton and Obama are doing well. IMHO
Damn it. Any one of these candidates is better than a Republic. I hope they are smart enough and strong enough to battle the coming dishonesty, disinformation, and misdirections from the Republic Party and its media toadies.
I missed it too. He was talking about how the voters deserve to know the differences between the candidates….
What’d we miss?
Bet we’ll her it again, tho.
TexBetsy @ 30
Hiya Betsy!
Edwards pointed out that HRC was a corporate Democrat accepting money from corporations.
Slothrop @ 37
I know. Weird. Me too.
“This debate brought to you by the Coal Industry.”
Got a mountain ya want taken down?
I know MY reaction is when Edwards and Obama really get their digs in on Hillary, it makes me mad and I feel like I should be defending her.
may not be fair, I don’t think is working in their favor.
dakine01 @ 45
You caught that, too? Pretty funny.
Education in Nevada is abysmal.
Catch that last little eye tightening “shot” at Edwards by Clinton….?
Oh, my.
Is there a straight audio feed for those of us on dial-up?
Hillary does a pretty good job of taking care of herself.
CTuttle @ 28
No. Really. I just got home:)
Where are we watching this debate?
Fern @ 44
Do either of you think she’s beyond “The Establishment” ?
Something makes me think it might be his ufo moment. The pundits said DK’s ufo answer was the end of his candidacy, but I think it was nothing more than a blip, but one which got a lot of coverage.
Those Boos could possibly work in his favor. Maybe.
Oilfieldguy @ 43
If the truth hurts…
Oh, great. Now we’re about to hear from “undecided voters.” Isn’t that a polite term for “idiots?”
debate’s on CNN
CCNN
LS @ 49
I guess he’s out for the VP slot.
wangdoodle, it’s on CNN
Elliott @ 53
No.
Hugh @ 50
the video feed link is only giving me the audio.
S.iun @ 10
The nuclear navy as sailed for decades with nearly zero problems. The know-how exists, but perhaps it’s part of the government and not the private sector. That’s blasphemy to Republics, but they live in a fantasy world.
Oilfieldguy @ 48
Careful, OFG, my sister and brother-in-law are teachers in Clark County…
Marion in Savannah @ 56
Many of us on this thread are undecided in the primary.
eCAHNomics @ 59
Yeah. That worked out so well for him last time….
Best statements by each candidate so far?
Marion in Savannah @ 56
good to know.. ‘cuz i’m undecided now too.
Badwater @ 63
It’s the nuclear waste, not the plants. Navy probably just dumps it in the ocean.
Marion in Savannah @ 56
I’ve been called worse.
AnnieW @ 47
I’d actually seen a note somewhere today that the Coal Industry was the primary sponsor so when the ad came up, it just ran right out my fingertips.
TexBetsy @ 65
many of us on this thread don’t have a vote that counts anyway.
Elliott @ 53
Now very far. I did however see a couple of glimpses of genuine feeling - in answer to the gender issue for example and about the insurance industry - that made me think there may yet be some principles in there.
“Improved nuclear”?…Hey where’s Jimmy Carter when you need him!
Barrack Obama…”Brought (and bought) to you by the Improved Nuclear Industry. INI “Giving You A Glowing Future”.”
eCAHNomics @ 59
Yup, pretty much.
“a hundred folks”………???
I am not yet decided either.
Slothrop @ 61
Might be.. if the wingnuts are right and she is a commie, soci*l*st, pinko..someone is going to be wrong about Hillary.. but who?
Oh, Jeez… I hope the administration doesn’t choose to go after this kid who doesn’t want to go to Iran…
OldCoastie @ 77
About which Dem’s to vote for , that’s true.
Sometime’s these independents aren’t even Dems…but so far that doesn’t seem to be the case here.
eCAHNomics @ 69
Simply not true.
Blitzer played a lot of Gotcha early - demanding yes or no answers on driver licenses for immigrants, nafta, china trade. Blitzer attemting to nail the dems with rethug points - security or human rights. A false dichotomy.
I can’t imagine that the republicans in their debates are pounded thusly. Is Media Matters keeping score? Blitzer is a right wing tool. So is John Facelift Roberts.
Scarecrow @ 67
what say you, Scarecrow?
I don’t think these are independent voters, I think they are simply undecided.
Audience questions. Son had 3 terms in Iraq, and now they’re talking Iran. How are you going to show us leadership on Iran?
Biden, Hillary voted for calling Revolutionary guard a terrorist organization. Caused the Muslim world to think we hate Islam. If Bush takes us to war in Iran, he should be impeached.
Elliott @ 72
Ooh, some Gloomy Gus’s, eh? Our primary vote counts where ever we reside…
did Biden just say Bush should be impeached?
O thank you! The mother of an Iraq marine vet (3 tours) asking what the candidates will do to stop the ratcheting up of the Iran rhetoric. Her son (standing next to her who said bring the troops home now!) is in Marine IRR and would be called up.
Biden says Kyl-Lieberman bad
HRC saying her vote not a concern but the current admin is.
Sorry about that “undecided” comment — I flash to national electoral politics when I hear that… I trust we’re all decided on the Democrats? [hangs head in shame]
CTuttle @ 64
My daughter, her husband and my grandchild live in Vegas. Special on PBS said they ranked dead last on funding.
Kudos to teachers oing what they can with so little. Sorry I wasn’t clear and should not have stained the system when it is the funding.
leslie @ 86
yes, if he goes to war with Iran without congressional approval.
Is Dan Senor’s wife asking questions?
Scarecrow,
John Edwards spoke sometime in the beginning that reminded me of his Morality Speech from a couple weeks ago.
My choice.
selise @ 62
I was listening on this but it was breaking up. I’ll try again. I’ll never understand why video links don’t have audio only options.
Clinton, no fear on Iran. Working with Congress to make sure Bush knows there is no authorization for war with Iran. Diplomacy. Immediately begin, without asking them to give up goals of nuclear power. Get china and the rest of the world with us. The Revolutionary Guard has helped kill Americans. Get tough on diplomacy.
hackworth @ 82
I certainly do not like the way the questions are framed, however, many of them are pertinent, irregardless of the framing…
HRC is spouting all of Bush’s lies on Iran!!!!
anyone need another reason to not support her?
hackworth @ 81
Republics will be allowed to scream about these issues without being required to offer a coherent and implementable solution.
leslie @ 87
If he starts a war wiht Iran.
Hillary beating the drums of war with Iran to make herself look tough.
Marion in Savannah @ 79
We can hope all we want…I would bet $$$ that both the soldier and his mother will be savaged.
It’s too bad.
So far both Biden & Clinton have missed the Iran answer: “Iran has indicated that they are open to a grand bargain on several occassions, and the Bush administration has spurned their overatures. I would pursue this track.”
CTuttle @ 85
yeah right.
Ha!
Siun @ 97
No
OldCoastie @ 91
Pipedream. Impeachment for Dubya would never happen if he attacked Iran.
OldCoastie @ 91
Too little too late.
Edwards calling bullshit on Hillary’s Iran guard terrorist vote.
Marion in Savannah @ 89
no problem. and quite frankly, i’m a little frustrated myself for my inability to figure out who i think would be a good president… so - i’m not gonna give you a hard time if you are frustrated with me too. *g*
is this the vote that Obama skipped? Will he knock Hillary around for voting for it?
It’s quite a spectacle.
HRC: I’m not playing the gender card.
Then, she must show masculine toughness above all else on Iran issue.
Gender card is a many sided thing.
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Edwards got it exactly right on the Iran question. Obama - not so much.
Edwards says we’ve seen this game before (rush to war with Iran). Democrats in congress must be tough.
Obama, this vote also gave the admin the idea that we can go to war anywhere. I disagree with Hillary, I said I would meet with our enemies.
Wolf said Obama missed the vote, and Obama admits it was a mistake.
I want to hear more from Dodd. I’ve been heartily pro-Edwards, but Dodd is my hero these days for standing up for the Constitution.
OldCoastie @ 106
He is on record for basically saying the same thing.
I have no idea what Obama was talking about.
Okay, I’m gonna drag my knuckles here for a minute. Does HRC overcompensate for being a female by displaying testicular tendencies of state-sanctioned violence?
OldCoastie @ 117
He knows a lot of words.
leslie @ 87
i love the “I” word. it took me awhile, but scarecrow has been making good arguments for a long time and i’m a believer now.
our candidates are going to have to find a way to explain why they are gonna need a whole lot of money to rebuild the military and replace all the equipment.
Question, disparity in pay between contractors and soldiers.
richardson says he would pull out the contractors and the soldiers. Two more divisions in marines and army. Take care of education and healthcare for veterans. Mental health care.
LindaR @ 118
He’s good at looking like he is listening.
LindaR @ 115
I feel the same way.
Richardson is doing better recently, too.
Oilfieldguy @ 117
Yes, she is required to apparently.
pow wow @ 112
Mahalo, pow wow, for that!