The Corporate/Bush Dog Wing of the Democratic Party - the one that our friends in the GOP/Media Complex like to portray as "reasonable" and "sensible" and "moderate" Democrats ("reasonable" meaning "rolls over for Bush and the GOP") - would very much like us to go away.
They want to be able to keep the actual Democrats like Feingold outnumbered and shackled. They want to pass their GOP buddies' Debt Peonage Bill (aka "Bankruptcy Reform") and to put Peru under the NAFTA shadow without any fuss from us. Hell, why should they care about us? They can get more money from their corporate buddies than they do from little old us.
Which is exactly why we shouldn't go away.
Oh, I'm not talking about just shutting up and being submissive ATMs for them. Or just giving up on politics altogether. Oh, no.
Here's what I'm talking about:
We'll "go away" from the DCCC and the DSCC, as they don't need our money anyway, not with their corporate sugar daddies. Instead, we'll back individual candidates, as well as outfits like DFA and BlueAmerica and Howard Dean's DNC.
Why the DNC? Because it, you will note, lags in fundraising behind the D-Trip and DSCC. The corporate donors aren't as fond of it as they are of the DCCC and DSCC, as they know that among other things, a fifty-state strategy ultimately means less reliance on corporate cash; Corporate America prefers the Democrats' central and state orgs to be weak and unable to keep individual candidates from being co-opted and corrupted. (Dean's longtime association with clean-elections groups like Public Campaign only makes them more skittish about backing him and the DNC.)
And for those who want to strike at the roots of the problem -- namely, the intertwining of the Republicans with the US media (accelerated by the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine in 1987) and the way Big Business uses their money as a blanket to smother our voices -- there is a bit of hope, and some options for action:
-- MSNBC has, after axing Donohue (who was their biggest ratings draw) and suffering a series of right-wing ratings disasters before lucking into a ratings bonanza with Keith Olbermann, finally has realized that actually obeying market demand will make them more money than will non-stop wingnut-welfare promotion of right-wing blowhards who get beat by local public-access programming: They're giving Rosie O'Donnell a show.
-- CNN and FOX and the rest will ignore it, and the print media will shove this deep inside page B83 next to the want ads, but that doesn't mean it's not big news: Brent Wilkes is going down. Wilkes, remember, is one of the key players in the huge GOP corruption machine run by such luminaries as Jack Abramoff, Tom "K Street Project" DeLay and Grover "Drown 'Em in the Bathtub" Norquist; the lurid Duke Cunningham hookers-and-bribes scandal is the very tip of this sleaze iceberg. The rule of law still exists, and is fighting back now that the Republicans have lost ground in the last year.
-- Go check out the fine folks at Public Campaign. I think you'll like what they've already done, and what they plan on doing.
-- If you live in a state where elections are happening today, go see who's on the ballot and then vote for the progressive choices. Yeah, they may be just city councilmembers now, but they can go on to become state and national leaders -- and you can determine right now who goes on to the next level. [UPDATE: Can you tell when I started working on this draft? As everyone knows, the elections were yesterday, and we did pretty well.]
Now get out there and piss off some corporatists!
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zedalicious!
What does first post say? Zed? Christy? Jane?
PW, the election wasn’t yesterday everywhere?
But seriously, folks: Olbermann said that there will be no MSNBC show for O’Donnell on his own show tonight.
Are we saying that Bush is responsible for NAFTA?
Hey, PW!
You on fire tonight, grrrl!
I’m still finishing up comments downstairs. I KNEW there was something about Ron Paul that bothered me hugely, and now I understand!
FunnyDiva
Heh! And of course all the elections happened yesterday — though that’s another bit of good news; we got some good people into office. :-)
TexBetsy @ 1
Those things are soooo good.
First post? We say Welcome AAbshier!
If I might be a bit of a troublemaker for a bit…
Another way to get some attention is to point out that actually, progressives might have another choice in 08 than to vote for anyone the Dems run: a Ron Paul 3rd party candidacy.
Now, I think a progressive would be insanely short-sighted to vote for a Ron Paul 3rd party campaign, for a half-dozen important reasons. But it’s not entirely implausible that many might, as Greenwald has recently pointed out.
If Pelosi et al believe we might bolt for a Paul 3rd party (or that, say, 30% of us might), I think you’d see a lot more spine coming from them.
Ron Paul is leverage for us. It’s distasteful. It’s playing with fire. But maybe we need to be signaling that we just might do it…
PW this is right on the spot…
DFA does training classes for candidates and their staff, activist training and grassrooter’s. They also do Night School training, you can download the sessions from their website or purchase the CD/DVD. These training sessions are stellar. DFA also provides funds to their Dean’s Dozen candidates for each cycle and who qualifies is by DFA members recommending that candidate.
NAFTA is a Clinton thing.
AAbshier @ 5
I hope this is true. I want Rachael Maddow or David Schuster or Sam Sedar or some of our bloggers or just about anyone that is an intelligent liberal who can convince some goopers, not just enrage them.
fyi - the peru trade bill is being debated on the house floor right now (c-span1).
Rachel Maddow would be wonderful!
Let’s send some of these sugar daddy’s to Hannity, mebbe we’ll get some peace.
sugar daddy
I haven’t heard from Howard Dean in months. What’s up with that? Maybe he’s planning that when he asks for money, he will actually get it!
TexBetsy @ 16
I’ll 3rd the nomination.
Professor Foland @ 11
interesting idea, and potientially a smart strategy.
i just don’t think i could do it (vote for paul, i mean).
Professor Foland @ 11
I admit to having a pavlov’s dog response to any candidate that says “support and defend the Constitution”!!
selise @ 15
Basketball’s on in this house. And it’s not being turned off…no way, no how. It’s 3 against 1. So, tell me, when do you think they’ll vote. I’ll watch the tiny tv in the bedroom if it’s tonight.
So are we going to stop being netural on presidential candidates and start discussing their records and ACTUAL postions on the issues we care the most about?
We don’t need to endorse anyone but we can say change your ways or we will hammer you.
Professor Foland @ 11
Did you happen to read the last thread? Phoenix Woman showed his positions on a lot of issues that are beyond the pale.
Phoenix Woman @ 8
Anybody have a link to a good summary of what happened yesterday?
selise @ 20
(and also for Loo Hoo)
I know I couldn’t, for many reasons, as PW has enumerated, and others. But if it got Pelosi to move, I’d be happy to start saying I might…
Does anyone worry that the net is becoming such a thorn in the side of the legislators that they may not support net neutrality?
solai, they wouldn’t dare defeat net neutrality. How fast would they be gone?
selise @ 15
Is that Gooper asshole Dreier out front?
solai @ 22
vote is scheduled for tommorrow. three hours of debate is scheduled for tonight.
TexBetsy @ 16
*swoon* That would be mah-velous… But, Rosie would be cool too… “They’re giving Rosie O’Donnell a show.” What time slot, PW?
Well then Mr. Professor Foland….signalling that we might vote for Paul is so dishonest it reeks of something the swift-boaters might do. For progressives or even for the thinkier among us, Ron Paul is so anti-progressive to actually affect my digestion! I can’t imagine!
Professor Foland @ 11
We don’t have to do anything but sponser a poll describing Hilary’s postion on the war and Ron Paul’s to likly Dem voters. Even Penn will not be able to massage those results. Then we make sure the media gets it.
That plus we do a poll identifying the voters most informed about the issues (us ) and how many of us informed Lefties really like Hilary.
The expected decline in Lefty voter enthusaism for Hilary should correlate with just how well informed you are about Hilary.
Tweety would love to do a story about how the more Lefties Know about Hilary the less they like her!
selise - ot I looked for the vote record of yesterdays impeachment maneuverings to no avail. Do you have any idea where they post/record such votes?
I may not like Ron Paul’s positions on most things. I will say this though, he doesn’t triangulate.
newtonusr @ 29
marcy kaptur is giving them hell! she’s defending the workers of peru and the workers here (she said she “genuflects” before the gold miners in peru who just went on strike). clapping as she concludes.
shameless vote whoring…
last chance to help skippy not be in last place for the 2007 weblog awards!
we’re only 10 votes behind dave neiwert of orcinus, and you know what a rotten writer he is!!
come on, folks, vote for me!
solai @ 27
yes.
if the pols are willing to consider retroactive immunity for telcos’ law breaking, why not the gutting of net neutrality too?
Tom Cole (R-OK) was interviewed on NPR. He’s heading up the GOP congressional election effort. He claims not to be too concerned about the war in Iraq as a 2008 issue, because there is so little distance between Bush’s position and that of the Dem contenders… Most of Cole’s optimism about GOP electoral prospects seem empty, but his confidence on this point seems well founded…
Already there, sent an email when I unsubscribed from the D-trip emailing list several months ago, told them I would be sending my money to the fine folks at MoveOn.org, Blue America, and would be supporting individuals OUTSIDE of my district.
No more money for the R’s disguised as D’s.
Loo Hoo. @ 18
Chuck, Rahm, Harry, Steny, and, Nancy have effectively muzzled Howard Dean… :-(
Now that we are in serious countdown mode toward the most serious election in my lifetime, I would like to see some threads by Jane, Howie or anyone else about money. How to raise it and how to get the most bang for the buck. To me, individuals giving money to candidates or DNC is pissing in the ocean. In order to gain influence and have politicians care about what we care about the money needs to be bundled. I assume that is what “Blue America” is doing but how do we expand participation?
skippy @ 37
Got your back Skippy!
skippy @ 37
Sorry, Skippy! I’m disappointed the Lake is in Fifth… 8-(
Mr. Natural @ 32
Things Come Undone has an excellent suggestion for how to do it in a way that may be more to your taste. Exactly that sort of suggestion is why I wanted to spark the discussion…
Loo Hoo. @ 28
Did you see what Comcast(?) did to MSNBC. They put it in a different tier (or something). I won’t pretend to know all the issues. Bottom line, millions of viewers just lost access to Keith Olberman.
Yeah, they may be just city council members…
The Right-wing extremists that now control our nation were able to do so because they started by taking over city councils and schools boards in the early 80s.
it disheartens me to see progressives so dismissive of the power of local government to change things. They can, and they do. The sooner progressives learn this and start paying as much attention to city and state races as they do to the national contests, the sooner we can rid ourselves of the right-wing blight.
Japandrew @ 39
I can’t stand Tom Cole. But on this he may have a point.
TexBetsy @ 4
Yup — I’d started writing the post yesterday and forgot to update it!
Phoenix Woman @ 49
That was my second guess!
solai @ 46
No, I did not see this. Got a link?
Swing State Project has an election results roundup. Two more state Senates in Democratic control (MS & VA) Another Democratic Governor (KY). I can imagine voting for Paul on the theory that he has the right policy on Iraq and the congress would never pass any of his truly wacko ideas.
Speaking of money..Rut Roh…
Currency traders gave the dollar a thorough pounding today after a Chinese official suggested that the country could begin to diversify its huge foreign-exchange reserves.
The euro broke the $1.47 barrier before retreating a little and the pound climbed above $2.10, a value it had not reached 26 years ago. Other currencies also posted gains against the dollar.
Remarks by Cheng Siwei, vice chairman of the National People’s Congress in China — a colossal dollar investor by virtue of its $1.43 trillion in currency reserves, most of which are presumed to be denominated in dollars — helped drive the dollar lower.
link
Professor Foland @ 45
Plus I hate Ron Paul so if Hilary does go lower than Ron in a poll of Democratic voters who compare his and her stance on the war.
Well then Hilary’s attack machine would make sure the entire MSM is talking about Ron’s Racism. Say what you will about Hilary she will fight well…for her own intrests.
I want this guy taken out he is raising too much money Cinnamonape at late,late night thinks the GOP corporate moneybags are behind it. I agree it smells like a trap.
Loo Hoo. @ 51
For Solai, I went alookin’ for the House vote, so maybe Selise answered your question already. But just in case, start here.
http://projects.washingtonpost.....otes/1037/
OT: Malcoln Nance, Navy expert on waterboarding testifies tomorrow, says he’ll kick ass if his credibility is challenged. Tomorrow on C-Span.
This could be interesting…
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004659.php
Georgia’s president has declared a state of emergency over the entire country for 15 days in the wake of opposition protests against his rule.
Mikhail Saakashvili also banned all news broadcasts except state-run television on Wednesday and expelled three Russian diplomats, accusing Moscow of fomenting unrest.
solai @ 46
Already that way here in San Antonio, at least on some services. My ex has satellite, Directtv, I think. Both there and on Grande MSNBC is in the 3rd tier, the most expensive of “basic” cable, before you get to digital, etc. Not sure about Time-Warner. Frustrating.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 48
“They wont have george bush to run against forever”.. Blah blah blah.
Honey, we have barely begun.
tejanarusa @ 59
STill on Time Warner here.
solai @ 27
I do, big time.
More money..rut roh..
Asian markets going down tonight..probably another bad day on Wall Street, in AM.
Link
from The Oregonian re: Comcast and MSNBC
Here’s one. Google “comcast msnbc” you’ll get a lot of listings.
http://www.oregonmediainsiders.com/node/1401
Eureka Springs @ 34
links to all yesterday’s roll call votes are here.
yesterday’s house floor video is here
yesterday’s congressional record (transcript) of the house floor events wrt kucinich’s bill starts here.
Jewish settlers are expanding outposts in the occupied West Bank by stealthily assembling mobile homes, a report by an Israeli peace group has said.
peony @ 57
Heh, “…You want the Truth? You can’t handle the Truth!” *g*
Time-Warner’s fine here in upstate NY too. So far.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 58
I worry that this, following so closely on Pakistan’s crisis, is an example of Naomi Klein’s thesis of accumulating shocksjhnnnnnnnnnnnnmhn
I would like to see Congress adress this immediately. No cable news at extreme cost. I’ll even include FoxNews.
CTuttle @ 44
But I’d venture to say that we have the best legal reporting…
Let’s cut off aid to Egypt and Israel. Human rights violations.
“We protect Egypt’s sovereignty and independence and reject any pressure and conditions, and we refuse any interference in our affairs,” Mubarak told 6,000 delegates from his National Democratic Party (NDP) in Cairo on Tuesday.
The president’s comments are an apparent reference to proposed US legislation to cut the country’s aid unless it stops committing human-rights abuses.
Things Come Undone @ 33
genius!
tejanarusa @ 70
The newly revised; Shock Domino Theory…?
Aaargh! Ooops yet again, pups!
This time, it was my biggest cat who leaped onto my lap, landing a paw or two on the keyboard as he passed over it. He’s a formerly feral cat, who now, 8 years later, has suddenly become a lap cat. And when he decides it’s lap time, he literally throws himself into it. Barely saw him coming.
A moment of lightness amid the gloom.
tejanarusa @ 70
I didn’t read Klein’s book. I’m afraid to. Just like Jeremy Scahill’s. It’s been on my nightstand for months. Can’t bring myself to open it.
Toby Wollin @ 72
Heh, Balkinization has my vote…! *g*
Oklahoma kiddo @ 73
Which ones, OKK? The ones they do on their own…or the ones they do when they are operating as our torture subcontractors?
Thank you selise.
tejanarusa @ 59
Time-Warner it’s on Channel 62 so that puts it on the Expanded Basic. For comparison, CNN is Channel 35, Weather Channel is 36, and Fox is 60
The number of Iraqis kicked out of their homes has surged 16 percent in October despite claims by the government that it has declined.
The Red Crescent, Iraq’s Red Cross equivalent, said at least 100,000 more Iraqis were forced to leave their homes in October.
Massive numbers of Iraqis are on the move inside the country in search for safety. The numbers are expected to hike as neighboring countries have shut their borders on the face of fleeing Iraqis.
http://www.azzaman.com/english.....fname=news2007-11-06kurd.htm
Toby Wollin @ 79
Good Point! NGO’s deserve every penny…
tejanarusa @ 77
Thought you had a little help with the sign-off there!
dakine01 @ 81
Near us it is on 49, before all the ESPN’s.
though i’m a milk dud man myself, i thank you for the inspirational article. yes there are many of us who value truth, integrity, and right human relations over power and greed. and we do have a voice!
Fern @ 84
Shock and Paw!
solai says:
Solai, I’m so glad you said that. I feel the same way! I have both Klein’s and Scahill’s books, and just got word my turn for “Terror Dream” has come up at the library. I so often I can only read the first couple of chapters, then can’t bring myself to pick them up again. Just so depressing. And yet I keep getting them. I feel obligated.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 82
Not to worry. The prez says that they wake up every day and say “God, I love freedom”.
He can’t even get the religious terminology right.
Apparently the US News & World Report did a survey through the Pew Polling Group with a focus group of Registered Republicans.
Here’s what Republicans really think.
“There’s Mormon, there’s insect, and then there’s Democrat”
Of course, maybe he ws saying that Republicans are “insects”?
By the way:
The Bush Dogs, led by Dennis Moore (Arf-KS) want you to lose your homes.
Residents of Kansas’ Third Congressional District: Do you want Dennis Moore making it easier for banks to get away with screwing you on subprime loans? Better let him know you’re watching him:
Washington, DC
1727 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: (202) 225-2865
Fax: (202) 225-2807
Overland Park, KS
8417 Santa Fe Drive #101
Overland Park, KS 66212
Phone: (913) 383-2013
Fax: (913) 383-2088
Kansas City, KS
500 State Avenue #176
Kansas City, KS 66101
Phone: (913) 621-0832
Fax: (913) 621-1533
Lawrence, KS
901 Kentucky St., #205
Lawrence, KS 66044
Phone: (785) 842-9313
Fax: (785) 843-3289
peony @ 57
Thanks!
OT..I hope they haven’t given away the store.
Congressional negotiators said Tuesday they were nearing agreement on a revised children’s health bill that they believed would withstand President Bush’s veto.
link
Phoenix Woman @ 91
‘I wish I was home…’ (tap, tap…) Oh, wait! What’s wrong with Kansas…?
tejanarusa @ 88
It started with Glenn Greenwalds book “How would a Patriot Act”, I would hit a section that pissed me off and THAWAT …. the book would be hitting the wall as I threw it across the room in anger. Hostile Takeover by Sirota actually dented the walls so now I depend on the book Salon, reviews & interviews.
It is easier than patching my walls.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 6
Thought Gore was.
cinnamonape @ 90
The surprise of the focus group:
“But Thompson appeared to have a reservoir of goodwill that goes deeper than his critics think. He was praised for being a true conservative, “grandfatherly,” “fatherly,” “competent,” and “personable.” He reminded several panelists of Ronald Reagan, a conservative icon.”
OK, well, now we know. Fred Thompson’s attraction for Republicans is housed in his capacity to remind them of Marcus Welby, MD.