I have argued that in the closing stages of a `fascist shift', events cascade. I am hearing about them, even across the globe. Here in Australia I hear from the nation's best-know feminist activist, and former adviser to Paul Keating, Anne Summers, who was also at the time this took place Chair of the Board of Greenpeace International. Summers was detained by armed agents for FIVE HOURS each way in LAX on her way to and from the annual meeting of the board of Greenpeace International in Mexico, and her green card was taken away from her. `I want to call a lawyer', she told TSA agents. `Ma'am, you do not have a right to call an attorney,' they replied. `You have not entered the United States.'
Apparently a section of LAX just beyond the security line is asserted to be `not in the United States' -- though it is squarely inside the airport -- so the laws of the US do not apply. (This assertion, by the way, should alarm any US citizen who is aware of how the White House argued that Guantanamo is not `in the United States' - is a legal no-man's land -- so the laws of the US do not apply.) Toward the end of her second five-hour detention she asked, `Why am I being detained?' `Lady, this is not detention,' the TSA agent told her. `Detention is when I take you to the cells out back and lock you up.'
Last week in Boston, while attending Bioneers by the Bay, I heard that one of the speakers for our event, an environmentalist named Gunter Pauli, was going to miss the time of his scheduled speech; he had been physically taken OFF THE PLANE by TSA agents and had to take a much later flight. More chillingly, the camerawoman doing my interview said that another well-known environmental writer found that his girlfriend was effectively `disappeared' for three days as she sought to enter the US from Canada. Lisa Fithian, an anti-globalization activist, was denied entry across the Canadian border in 2001 and was offered the choice of turning back or being arrested.
A friend emails me a story from USA Today about a 24-year-old college graduate who testified before Congress about her family of immigrants and the difficulties they face; shortly afterward, the entire family was arrested by immigration agents. Another online piece reports that Blackwater is setting up operations along the US/Mexico border and an insightful post on Daily Kos describes how the TSA list will revert from the airlines to the management of the Department of Homeland Security shortly and that by February we may well face the need to apply to the State for permission to travel. If this proposed regulation goes through, we will move from 1931 to about 1934---when the borders started to close--- with the stroke of a pen. Jews in America have hardwired into their DNA a sense of the distinction between those who got out before the borders closed and those who waited a moment too long.
Why should Congress impeach and prosecute this instant, not waiting till February? Why should this impeachment and prosecution be solidly bipartisan? After February it is the leaders on both sides of the aisle -- and the people writing these essays -- who are at most risk of being turned back at the border. People who can't leave in a police state are effectively silenced. And history shows that Republicans are at the exact same risk as Democrats of being violently silenced once liberties are lost. I am reading about IBM's close, profitable involvement with Nazi Germany -- much akin to Prescott Bush's well-documented close and profitable involvement with Nazi Germany through German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen. Right up to the top of the solidly Nazi hierarchy of the IBM affiliate, corporate executives were terrified of taking a wrong step in the eyes of the Party: `There are concentration camps', they would whisper to their US backers. The teenage son of one solid Nazi ally was taken hostage when he resisted Party orders. So alignment with the regime in a police state offers no ultimate protection.
Let us think like business consultants analyzing the decisions of a business that claims it is going to close its door in just a year. What kinds of decisions is it making? Here is a quiz, if you still doubt that we need to shift our thinking and recognize what appears to be 'a paper coup.':
-- Is building a US Embassy in Baghdad the size of eighty football fields and at a cost of well more than half a BILLION dollars evidence of short- or long-term thinking?
-- These walls would crumble if the next legitimate president independently ends the war. How about defending and expanding the basis for FISA violations at this late stage -- after all, these folks will be gone in a year?
-- How about the decision to fight so hard for a US attorney who will defend the view that the President is above the law?
-- Why would that matter so much in an administration folding its tents?
-- Why the rush to establish Guantanamo as a permanent part of the landscape and even seek money at one point to double its size -- if the next President, a truly independent Republican or Democrat, might just close it down?
-- Why the push to expand a war that makes no military or popular sense, rush through military tribunals that the next President might just disband, and, by the way, drum up a fresh new World War III?
-- Do the neo-cons advising Giuliani look like a fresh page for an independent, transparent election or an ideological continuity of government in themselves?
-- Do these look like the short-term tactics of a fading administration -- or the institutional strategic bases for some kind of new long-term beginning?
-- Why work so hard to make sure that the man who defended the infamous "enemy combatant" concept will be the new Attorney General?
Increasingly, reputable figures are starting to talk about `a coup.' Jim Hightower notes in an important essay, "Is a Presidential Coup Under Way?," that a coup is defined in the dictionary as a sudden forced change in the form of government. (He also spells out the basis for a rigorously modeled impeachment and criminal prosecution.) Daniel Ellsberg's much-emailed speech on recent events notes that, in his view, a `coup' has already taken place. Ron Rosenbaum speculates in an essay on Slate about the reasons the Bush administration is withholding even from members of Congress its plans for Continuity of Government in an emergency -- noting that those worrying about a coup are no longer so marginal. Frank Rich notes the parallels between ourselves and the Good Germans. And Congress belatedly realizes as if waking from a drugged sleep that it might not be okay for the Attorney General to say the President need not obey the law. Congress may realize why Mukasey CAN'T say that `waterboarding is torture' -- the minute he does so he has laid the grounds for Bush, Cheney and any number of CIA and Blackwater interrogators to be tried and convicted for war crimes. They are so keenly aware that what they have been doing is criminal that laws such as the Military Commissions Act of 2006 have been drafted specifically to protect them and the torturers and murderers they have directed from criminal prosecution. That is why insisting that Mukasey say that waterboarding is torture is, in spite of the alarming apparent defection of Feinstein and Schumer, an important tactic and even the perfect opening for the impeachment bid that Kucinich is bringing on November 6th to be followed by Congressional investigations into possible criminality.
This is the "Blackwater Tactical Weekly." (Yes, Blackwater has its own weekly e-newsletter.) Look at "Islamist protest in N.Y. – 'Mushroom cloud on way'" -- it is reasonable to speculate that Blackwater is focusing on becoming more active domestically in managing domestic protests and rallies. (Regarding this particular rally, note the repetition of the White House `Mushroom Cloud' sound-bite and other signs bearing current White House talking points, that are attributed to alleged Muslim protesters in New York City. The US has a long history of using agents provocateurs -- people dressed as those they are targeting, who pose as conveying a more violent or threatening message than that of the real group itself or who commit acts of violence to stigmatize the group. The Cointelpro program of the 1970's discredited many rallies in this way. An alleged or infiltrated violent, threatening Muslim rally would be the perfect defensible trigger for a Blackwater response.)
See also that Blackwater may be exploring the management of private flights in US airports because of a threat or `threat' to private aircraft. ("Extremists may target private US planes: TSA.") This entry point to the air travel system would seem defensible -- after all Blackwater personnel do in fact guard airports around the world, for example in Bosnia. The danger is that a bleeding of Blackwater into US airport security in general would affect a coup in essence -- quite quickly and serenely -- even as a coup in fact need not be declared. It is a short step from managing private plane and private airport security to aiding the TSA -- which is a branch of Homeland Security -- and Homeland Security and Blackwater have already worked in alliance with one another in New Orleans. A TSA agent blogged about having signed up for Blackwater -- at ten thousand a month, which is a lot more than TSA agents make now and a real incentive -- but I have no evidence of reverse movement. The White House recently announced that the Watch List and No-Fly List together have 775,000 citizens and that they are adding 20,000 A MONTH. This trend on both sides, if not confronted, points to an easy slide to a paramilitarized domestic flight experience in the US and a routine aggressive searching of hundreds of thousands of citizens, the growth being exponential enough so that being aggressively searched could easily soon become a common experience at airports. Nothing at present prevents Blackwater agents from being deployed to help or replace the TSA domestically. Or from being deployed at the next New York City rally such as the one that is being featured on their website. And airports being the lifeline of freedom, if you are scared to fly or can be bullied, interrogated, tasered or worse when flying, you are no longer free. History shows that there is no easy retroactive movement toward a free society once travel is truly restricted.
The Mukasey hesitation on torture is our cue to call a halt to these crimes. (By the way, strapping victims to boards to prepare them for torture was common at Buchenwald.)
Congress must ask:
-- What is torture?
-- Has it happened?
-- Who ordered it?
-- How high up the chain of command does this go?
-- And what does our system of laws say about such crimes and those who commit them?
If it takes hearings and possible prosecutions to restore the rule of law and maintain a free society, then it is past time for the hearings to begin.
(Graphic from Blackwater via Common Dreams.)
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Naomi! How wonderful to see you here again.!
Naomi, Busharraff has effectively ended democracy in America.
We even have soldiers dying in Iraq of “non-combat related” explosions.
That’s what the DOD says.
-GSD
when did this happen? do you have a link?
i’m on a listserve she posts to - her last post was 10/26… no one has posted that anything has happened to her. i’m a bit freaked now.
GSD @ 2
What do you mean? I keep hearing about Blackwater drawing their guns on US soldiers in Iraq and various kinds of friendly fire — this is something I haven’t heard of — can you tell me?
selise @ 3
I don’t have a link — I did not hear this firsthand. I heard it from my publisher’s camerawoman and when I checked with my publsiher this is what I was told. I can try to report it out more fully.
this article scared the shit out of me.
Welcome Naomi
Can you tell us if you are treated as if you were crazy for these views? I applaud you for you courage.
Randi Rhodes and Thom Hartman too are screaming a warning…thanks for being here . I will read comments with interest.
They won’t ask these questions.
naomi wolf @ 5
thank you!
We are truly doomed.
Naomi, it is the reporting of the DOD. It is just more rabbit hole stuff.
Check the link.
It says the soldier died on a ‘non-hostile explosion’.
It seems the DOD is dickering with the facts even more now.
The Bush’s Noble Rot is seeping into all corners of America, unabated.
Just like the statistics from the Dept. of Labor showing job increases just in time to take some sting out of the horrible economic news.
There is nothing that comes from the government that is to be believed anymore.
-GSD
We must learn our history.
The key in all of that was W. Averell Harriman.
Harriman financed the Nazis and the Soviets simultaneously. Prescott Bush was a Harriman protege. George H. W. Bush and his son carry on the Regime-Change Legacy of Averell Harriman (who engineered the overthrow of Mossadegh in Iran, among others).
Welcome, Naomi.
From what I’ve read of waterboarding, it’s not only torture, but one of the worst kinds. You’re literally drowning — your lungs are filling up with water. They just count on reviving you at the last minute.
Some folks like to give off the impression that somebody just throws a wet dishrag on your face.
Do you think we will have an election next Nov or will it be a fixed election?
Only in Bush World would the Bin Ladin family get a personal FBI escourt out of the United States after 9/11 while Lefties get interogated trying to come in to the US.
Are any Right Wing Nazi holecoust deniers getting stopped. Why did we become the enemy?
Because we point out the obvious?
G.W its been a few years you lost the Iraq war. Ossama is laughing at you! Your economy is a joke. You have single handedly disproved every Conservative Idea I have ever heard of for at least a generation.
Unlike Hitler you are losing the wars which you used as an Emergency/Excuse to take away our freedom’s.
Go ahead pray for another Terror Attack so you can declare martial law. Your the one who has let Ossama go free all these years. Tell me again about your war on terror where not a single American solder is looking for Ossama in Pakistan.
MufsMom @ 10
I did not mean to frighten anyone unnecessarily and certainly I need to give you all more confirmed information about the report I got regarding the Canadian detention. I will send it in as soon as I get the information from my publsiehr so you all can follow up. So far at least before this post my argument has been treated all too seriously; I expected a lot more `you are crazy’ reaction. This is an aggregate of scarier examples and some hypotheticals so this is the most disturbing essay yet of course — but the people whom I am hearing from, Anne Summers for example who went on the record and checked her quites with me, are extremely credible. We should try not to simply be frightened if possible — we should try to sound the alarm and open hearings. That has to be our goal. And we have time to push back against the TSA regulations. But yes, I am pretty worried.
dov12348 @ 13
Some nitwit called in on NPR and said that it is impossible for the lungs to fill with water because the waterboardee is is on a slope with their head downwards, so water cannot go uphill.
Said nitwit not understanding what aspiration is.
Pathetic.
We’ve become a nation of armchair torturers.
-GSD
I think I am more alarmed than most people and certainly more than most people in the mainstream press because, since the book came out, I am the recipient of so many of these narratives and people send me many developments that are not being properly covered. For instance Mark Crispin Miller, the very well respected author of Fooled Again and professor at NYU, sent me the original source for the TSA regulations which was actually published in the UK. So I am in an unusual position to ve receiving things that collectively
make up a more alarming picture than I would see otherwise. If I can figure out this technology I will send you that link.
naomi wolf @ 16
You wake up one morning to learn that Bu’ush has pulled a Musharraf (using nearly the exact language in Musharraf’s emergency decree). “Paramilitary forces” (e.g., Blackwater types) have taken up positions everywhere and civilian movements are utterly restricted.
Tinfoil?
Maybe.
Busharraff.
-GSD
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2.....data_hell/
Hooray! I did it.
You are not crazy, there are too many confirming pieces in place these days.
Which is what’s scary as hell. We keep prodding our so-called democratic congress to put the brakes on yet they seem content to careen obliviously down the hill.
I’m less afraid of global warming, there’s all kinds of these we as individuals can do for an aggregate effect. But I don’t know where to start with this kind of thing (although I’ve been supporting the protests at the Blackwater compound in San Diego).
GSD @ 20
Bu’usharraf of Bu’ushistan.
Hi Naomi.
Another facet of the Police State has to be how they’ve eliminated all the “walls” between the databases of all of the law enforcement, intelligence, surveillance, financial, credit bureaus, medical, professional, and legal agencies-which essentially transforms all these disparate entities into ONE. We’ve seen this before-in the USSR. It was called the KGB.
Now why would we want an American KGB?
MufsMom @ 10
Hell no!
We have two things on our side — the internet and cell phone cameras.
They will watch us — and we will watch them.
And there’s way more of us!
BobbyG @ 19
With all due respect Bobby, there ain’t that many blackwater types to do that.
dakine01 @ 26
Maybe. Doesn’t take many. I would not be so sanguine.
Naomi - have you personally had any trouble traveling?
What does it take to get our Democratic Presidential Candidates to stand up for our rights and use this Issue to rally people?
You wake up one morning to learn that Bu’ush has pulled a Musharraf (using nearly the exact language in Musharraf’s emergency decree). “Paramilitary forces” (e.g., Blackwater types) have taken up positions everywhere and civilian movements are utterly restricted.
Tinfoil?
Maybe.
This is so perceptive. The Pakistan events are so illustrative of how things unfold when there
is an anti-democracy crackdown. In recent weeks
Pakistan could have gone either way — there was a burgeoning pro democracy movement, Bhutto had returned, lawyers and judges were refusing to serve the regime rather than the rule of law; but a few of the first ten steps got rolled out (you don’t need as many if repression already exists). The minute I read that Musharraf had declared a state of emergency and martial law, I knew that the next
step was to round up the dissidents. Please don’t let me freak you all out guys — you are the most resilient community. We just need to wake everyone up in time. If I hadn’t read so many histories of closing societies I wouldn’t be so alarmed at the bullet points that I highlighted. It’s just that the context we now havce is inching toward being so classic and the historical blueprint shows that when you have to apply to the government to cross borders that is a bright black line.
Within two weeks: one of my employees (of color with dreadlocks) takes a long-anticipated shoe-string budget trip to Italy, meeting up with his girlfriend there to visit (American) friends who live in Milan. The hosts had asked for some pancake mix: his baggage was searched, all of his identification and means to communicate was taken away, and he was held for 15 hours. The plane ticket that his girlfriend’s mother bought for him was useless, and he had to buy another outright to join his girlfriend, once they realized he was not transporting bomb-making material.
Another friend, third generatiion Mexican-American, just was held in a similar fashion though for not quite as long, after he and his partner were returning from vacation in Mexico.
My level of fury continues to grow as I watch these erosions of life as we once knew it. Why are we accepting that a fear-based paradigm is the way to face our challenges? What does “we the people” mean now? How the fuck does our government even talk about another war?
Naomi, further down the rabbit hole.
Giuliani is boasting that he used ‘enhanced interrogation techniques’ on Americans.
Because he’s tough on crime when he’s not in drag.
-GSD
BobbyG @ 19
If history has taught us anything — there is no limit to the criminality these people are capable of.
OldCoastie @ 28
I was off the watch list for about two years. Last week when I flew from Australia to LA I found the four S’s back on my boarding pass. Otherwise no.
BobbyG @ 27
IIRC, there are only approx 1k direct blackwater employees. Maybe 10k-15K counting contractors. How much trouble are they having with a nominally unarmed population in Iraq of however many million?
I am not sanguine, but I also refuse to let them be the bogeyman.
Sorry kids, it’s me again with another OT question: has there been a transcript of Mulkasey’s testimony re his Senate confirmation hearing published anywhere (I can’t find it). I watched both days on C-SPAN, and remember him saying something to the effect that he would not enforce a Contempt of Congress finding against Bush.
Still looking, but any help would be greatly appreciated.
p.s. Hi Naomi!
RonD @ 24
This is why Bu’ush has such a chubbie for privatizing every aspect of government he can. Long-standing cumulative case law posits that private entities are not subject to constitutional strictures. You have no 4th Amendment protection, for example, against intrustions by private actors. You’d be left with civil tort remedies, and we all know what Bu’ush thinks of those.
I wrote about that particular worry in my 2001 anti-TIA screed.
BTW, BobbyG, thanks for posting the text of Musharraf’s order yesterday. It was put to good use.
dakine01 @ 35
If they’re paying 10K/mo a pop for new agents, they could fill up their numbers right quick. It only takes a couple of strategic locations to lock things up, I think.
Don’t even get me started on that San Diego facility.
naomi wolf @ 16
By the time this activity becomes the statistical norm it will be too late for fear.
The basis of my opinions on the subject revolve around the perceived notion of a tight cadre of multinational, malfeasant non-intellects who share an ideological affinity, seeking power and lucre, and knowing that in order for them to complete their ambitious mission such steps as you describe must be taken in an accelerated fashion…And that failure in their mission quite probably means an extremely prejudicial punishment, therefore everybody will be coming along for the ride, win or lose.
naomi wolf @ 18
Might i suggest that you deposit this material in a publically available archive? Maybe the tech savvy readers can lend a hand.
I said a couple of weeks ago that we shouldn’t be surprised that the folks who brought us Vietnam would eventually turn on their “own” people. Noam Chomsky and others having been warning of this for decades.
However, I get the impression that there is a way out of this mess. This
move towardheadlong leap into Fascism by the Neo conartists seems largely confined to the borders of this country. The Iraq occupation seems more like a diversion of our attention from something else lately. Just try the kind of stuff they’re pulling in Europe. Ain’t gonna happen.I would imagine that the nations of the rest of the Earth are alarmed at the prospect of a dictatorial superpower. It may turn out that we may need to ask the rest of the world to do what was done in South Africa.
Say NO to US.
Perhaps some of the oil rich countries will break off from the weakened dollar and start trading in Euros. Perhaps dock workers in Europe will begin to refuse US ships in port. It’s not beyond reason that it will become the interests of folks we now call allies to, quite frankly, take their business elsewhere.
Just like the African National Congress, we may need for folks in other lands to disinvest and disengage from US, unless and until the people of this country are able to set things right again.
GSD @ 32
That’s very funny. And the heartbreak is that he used to be a good mayor and even a decent guy. Which shows how fully and quickly this kind of shift corrupts people — anyone. Look at Mukasey — another formerly good man who just did something he will be accountable to the universe for forever. The echoes just keep coming — I read some Republican defender of torture referred to it is `special treatment’ and in the book about IBM at the same time I saw that the category of `Special’ treatment — a category formalized by a bureaucracy in the form of paperwork and punch cards — meant execution.
If there is actually someone who will volunteer to be waterboarded, so our political leaders can see what it’s all about, then that person should be considered suicidal. Even under controlled circumstances they might die of this procedure. And, wouldn’t that just be dandy, to have someone die of waterboarding in front of senators and so on.
Hopefully everyone realizes I’m using sarcasm and that I personally would never want to hear of someone dying in this way.
RonD @ 38
Scary, ‘eh? You’d just have to change a few words, and it’d fit right into Bu’ush’s chronic whine about other govt entities fucking with his executive prerogatives and Noble Fight Against Terrah.
dov12348 @ 13
I wonder if DiFi would be willing to have the experience?
[Mod Note; just to clarify, we don’t wish this on any individual.]
Tonster @ 41
How would I do that? I am so new to this technology and hi everone back!
Hillary is in cahoots with the Zio-Fascist movement in the United States.
Ron Paul would legalize our freedoms.
I really got to get serious about moving my cash to Canada. Do you get penalized for taxes if you move your cash to a Canadian retirement fund. Assuming Canada has retirement funds.
snowbird42 @ 14
We’ve already had at least two fixed elections.
There are many reasons I am fed up with the party I have belonged to for so many years. Chief among them are Nancy Pelosi and her “decision” on impeachment.
I know looseheadprop said on an earlier thread that it was too late, but FWIW, here is the letter I sent to my senators and members of SJC:
Astral Technician @ 42
Truly this is brilliant and important. This is why it is worth getting scared — we think things through and find actions that make sense more effectively. In Australia people were pretty disturbed at the picture I was painting and they wanted to know exactly that — what the international community could do to crush this tendency. Economic sanctions were proposed. Though I gather that even my saying that may be criminal now since a new law that was passed in April — I will send in the link when I am done here if you like — defines `terrorist’ so loosely that `coercing’ the government in one category.
MarkH @ 44
Lets ask a GOP Presidential Candidate at the next debate if he would volunteer to be waterboarded on TV just to show the American People how safe and not torture (snark) waterboarding is.
Come on Rudy Reporters get Tazered all the time on tv.
That was a chilling read but I believe you are correct. This is not an administration that looks ready to hand over the power they’ve spent years accumulating.
I am a traditional Democrat. An Eleanor and Franklin Roosevelt Demo. My party has left me.
A couple I care a great deal about is moving to the US. One of them is taking a senior leadership role in an NGO that does international peace, relief and development work. They have been involved with this organization for many years. Both have traveled extensively in Africa, South America and the Middle east, including Iran and the Gulf States.
I don’t mind saying that I am freaked about this move. Am I just paranoid, or is there real risk here?
I hope you don’t object to the personal question.
rxbusa @ 51
THIS IS GREAT. I wonder if there is a way to make that letter widely known — I will do my best. This is the exact drumbeat we need — hearinsg into crimes. and for us to indicate to congress that we will go along with NOTHING until those hearings begin. By the way we may be starting small but NYC readers we will be holding our strike for the constitution tuesday at lunchtime in Union Square and you all can organize your own events by going to sitdownfortheconstitution.org. We will be reading the constitution and the bill of rights and singing.
Naomi,
I am afraid for the long term and I think you book did a good job of describing why we should be afraid. But your post seems a bit premature. The answer to your quiz about why the administration is proceeding at full speed to implement it’s agenda is that it is because they know that the more they can entrench the government in something, the harder it will be for a new administration to change it. I don’t worry about Bush’s coup, I worry about the precedents he has made in this climate of disenfranchised voters hooked on the bread and circuses of modern TV. I think the danger is in the next “Bush.”
That said, I would like to ask you why you think these authoritarian types always go after left of center people who are obviously not a threat. Your friend Anne Summers is the latest but from the 1970’s to present day they can’t help themselves from going after vegans protesting at a HoneyBaked ham store and the like.
Things Come Undone @ 52
That is an excellent idea. Maybe even Rush or Bill-O or Hannity or Legend-In-His-Own-Mind Krauthammer would like to volunteer.
In the spirit of fighting back, there’s been a lot of talk in the blogosphere about a general strike on 11/6. I think this is a great idea, and have put together an appropriate flyer. This truly needs to go viral, IMO…If you agree, copy/paste, distribute as widely as possible, and then follow through-the time to fight back is now.
Right?
naomi wolf @ 5
Please don’t panic. This incident happened way back in November 12, 2001. Fithian was released by Canadian immigration a few days later (Thursday November 15), allowed to enter Canada and attend the Conference which began the 16th.
http://archives.lists.indymedi.....00408.html
What does one do when all the choices are ‘very’ bad? You pick the ‘bad’?
Fern @ 56
I think they should be fine, or at no more risk than the rest of us. Unfortunately what I have to keep distressingly saying wherever I go is that in a violent police state there is no safety for anyone. But they would not be first — journalists, labor and opposition leaders, and political activists and outspoken clergy — as well as some visible entertainers and writers — would be first.
Full horror of waterboarding to be demonstrated. (text). Tomorrow. High noon. Justice Dept. The vol. can stop process at any time. I’m hoping it will be filmed and posted on YouTube.
Will President Clinton bring the fascist to account?
RonD @ 60
Wonderful THANK YOU!! Yes please do all the cool things you all know how to do to spread this flyer everywhere. In the midst of this dark subject matter I think it is important to note that since we all last spoke together someone has set up pro bono a national website for the events even if it is just a start and you have created this document which can do so much and there is buzz on the internet about the date — all of what you are doing has helped that. This did not exist before people decided to take action and it could be just the beginning.
I fucked up the date on the flyer-should be 11/06-will be fixed momentarily!!!
Will Senator Clinton vote to confirm Mukasey?
naomi wolf @ 51
I think the use of the term “scared” here is off by a few degrees. We don’t need to be scared We need to be mad as hell. The good news is that unlike other Fascist movements, these clowns don’t have a lock on the transfer of information. It used to be said that a lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can tie its shoes.
These days the lies are caught as they leave the lips, and the truth is heard around the world.
BobbyG @ 60
I am not a fan of any of those guys but would also not wish the torture on any of them either. And I assume that you are aware that Krauthammer is in a wheelchair and crippled?
It’s not that farfetched. You are traveling down one of our turnpikes. And you see a red light in your mirror. The pursuer pulls along side and orders you to pull over. You notice “Blackwater Patrol” lettered on the door. Next thing you know, you’re history.
I agree that “Congress must ask”. However, with the GoAlongOCrats in control of Congress, it will continue to be “don’t ask, don’t tell”.
first off - i’m german and so i got to this blog a lot less more sceptical in my view of the US than most of the readers here. sure, you’ve been critical, but you tend to believe in incompetence way too long. when blackwater got marked for inland duty, i told you the bush junta now had their own private army for their 2009 coup - no believe at that time. i admit, i forgot those millions privately owned handguns at that time, being german and all … around that time there was this report about state-sponsored church seminars where highranking church members were drilled about keeping the people docile in case of emergency. someone may want to repost that link.
well, since the reps can’t win in 2008, the “emergency” will come to fruition 2-4 weeks before the 2009 inauguration. every coup needs a culmination point/event (google “Reichskristallnacht”), and i can’t forget this little fun fact about the 6 nuklear missiles flying over the USA … about there being only 5 after the landing. so your best chance at avoiding all this is getting the message out now : the next attack on american soil *will* be an inside job.
it *is* tinfoil time.
oh, and camera phones and the internet won’t help you. using the internet this way will just mark you for a visit of a well meaning church member first and a blackwater team later.
Krauthammer is a fascist. Roosevelt was in a wheelchair too, and he was no fascist.
dakine01 @ 71
How do you get from that snark that I would “wish it upon them”? And, do you assert that Krauthammer’s infirmities give him a pass when it comes to advocating aggression against other nations?
Date on the flyer fixed now.
Thanks, Naomi!
cinnamonape @ 62
Thank you and my apologies. That is a huge relief and I am sorry we got that so very wrong. I will correct it right away with Rick’s kind help.
Spiritcatcher @ 74
Do you have a link to info re: missing missle? I had not heard that before.
The Bush family fortune has roots in nazi Germany.
BobbyG @ 76
I don’t wish it upon them even in jest or as “snark.” I also pay attention when Christy has made statements about how she and/or Jane can wind up getting visits because someone at another site quotes a comment from FDL that appears to advocate violence against public officials or celebrities.
And I assume that Krauthammer’s disabilities go a long way in explaining his sour expression and view on life.
YMMV
Hi Naomi,
Thanks for the excellent work. FWIW, many months ago I posted a couple of things at DailyKos on these same concerns:
* http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....54615/1194
* http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....34557/3793