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How can Hughes leave now? I though everyone who hadn’t quit by Sept 1 was supposed to stay until the bitter end.

Belle, uh, er - PEANUT! I know, one post too late, but things are confusing this morning…

Hi Christy!

I was wondering what happened…

Habeas Corpus must be restored. We need America back.

A nation ruled by laws, not be men and women. And no person is above those laws, no matter what position s/he might hold.

I’m sure there will be loads of substantive reporting on the importance of the rule of law any minute now

I’m not holding my breath. The Democratic frontrunner doesn’t seem to know which of the powers that Bush has usurped she’s willing to give up. I wouldn’t count on this getting fixed any time soon, if ever.

Gah! Grrrr! Urrrr!

This whole thing makes me practically incandescent with rage. I want George up for high treason and war crimes. Agh!

King John is never around when you need him.

Re: Karen Hughes and the Palace of Pathology: From Countdown on Halloween:

JAMES MOORE, HUFFINGTONPOST.COM: Always good to be with you.

OLBERMANN: But first, Karen Hughes, you described her connection to the president as obsessive. Let me read it exactly. She seems to have lost her ability to distinguish between the real world and red, white and blue movie playing on a loop in her head. It‘s a drama. Where W is the hero and crowds are cheering him as a savior while the national anthem plays as the sound track. Pretty potent words there, do they explain why polls show no improvement in the world‘s view of the U.S. since she became our pitch man?

MOORE: Well, I‘m reminded of that famous (INAUDIBLE) article where he said, in quotes an unnamed senior White House official, whom everyone knew as Rove (ph) when he said, “We are about creating alternative realities.” And so they‘ve turned the White House, all of these folks, into a sort of “Palace of Pathology.”—where they have created a reality in which the United States is the good guy and we‘re going to take democracy around the world, whether you want democracy or not and Karen lives in that world. Karen has believed everything the president has told her and they have essentially tried to continue to push his belief system into the wider world and of course, it‘s their belief system. But it constantly clashes with reality and leads to this kind of nonsense where the polls, all of the international polls have shown in Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, the united states has gone from a 60 to 70 percent favorability down to about 15 percent.

peanutbutter @ 9

Gah! Grrrr! Urrrr!

This whole thing makes me practically incandescent with rage. I want George up for high treason and war crimes. Agh!

incandescent with rage-there is a poem in there somewhere peanutbutter.

The Founding Fathers enshrined the Great Writ in the Constitution to prevent the president from judging the lawfulness of his own detentions.

I’d like a country where the president doesn’t get to judge the lawfulness of ANY of his/her actions. That is another branch’s province. I’d like a country where the president OBEYS the laws.

marymccurnin @ 12

peanutbutter @ 9

Gah! Grrrr! Urrrr!

This whole thing makes me practically incandescent with rage. I want George up for high treason and war crimes. Agh!

incandescent with rage-there is a poem in there somewhere peanutbutter.

Fluorescent rage creates less CO2 pollution & is pretty effective.

eCAHN @ 10

Shrub makes king John look competent. And sober.

conspicuous absCujo359 @ 8

I’m sure there will be loads of substantive reporting on the importance of the rule of law any minute now

I’m not holding my breath. The Democratic frontrunner doesn’t seem to know which of the powers that Bush has usurped she’s willing to give up. I wouldn’t count on this getting fixed any time soon, if ever.

certainly not as long as a (D) candidate can count on the support of folks who care deeply about these issues, without having to actually do anything to restore habeas, end the war, etc.

eCAHNomics @ 14

marymccurnin @ 12

incandescent with rage-there is a poem in there somewhere peanutbutter.

Fluorescent rage creates less CO2 pollution & is pretty effective.

lol!

Can we get Pelosi/Conyers/Hoyer to sit and be lectured by Bruce Fein on how they are guilty of dereliction of duty ?

OT, New Froomkin up Abramoff’s In The House

And is it too much to ask (H/T Glenn) that members of Congress stand up for the rule of law rather than rolling over for a belly scratch ?

Unfortunately Christy, it seems that it is too much to ask for most of congress.

Thanks for the post.

In my trip to the UK in January I plan to go to Runnymede where the Magna Carta was signed. I want to stand on the very land where my basic rights were born and mourn its loss.

I’m going to be presenting Hugh’s list at a political event later this month. I’ve decided to present it as a scroll. In case you’re unfamiliar with Hugh’s list of Bush scandals, it is a compilation of W’s most egregious acts, most of them impeachable offenses far more serious than anything Bill Clinton was accused of. Here’s how long the scroll will be, depending on which point type size I choose:

16-pt – 166 pages – 124 feet – 6 inches

14-pt – 128 pages – 96 feet long

12-pt – 97 pages – 72 feet – 9 inches

10-pt - 69 pages – 51 feet – 9 inches

Fein has an acute legal mind. I don’t agree with him politically, but I do respect his legal observations. I, too, thought of the Committee of Public Safety, (that Jacobin enterprise), when at first trying to understand this WH and its refusal to meet any kind of democratic compromise and its insistance on using unlawful actions to carry out its failed policies. I can only hope the current WH occupants are smart enough to avoid the fate of Robespierre. -Kevo

I’m sure Don Siegelman agrees that the neocons would never abuse their power to jail and detain political opponents.

Ed*ard Teller @ 22

I’m going to be presenting Hugh’s list at a political event later this month. I’ve decided to present it as a scroll. In case you’re unfamiliar with Hugh’s list of Bush scandals, it is a compilation of W’s most egregious acts, most of them impeachable offenses far more serious than anything Bill Clinton was accused of. Here’s how long the scroll will be, depending on which point type size I choose:

16-pt – 166 pages – 124 feet – 6 inches

14-pt – 128 pages – 96 feet long

12-pt – 97 pages – 72 feet – 9 inches

10-pt - 69 pages – 51 feet – 9 inches

Excellent, ET and Hugh !

ET WOW!

I’d go with the 12 or 14 pt.

From Article 1, Section 9, of the US Constitution:

The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.

eCAHNomics @ 14

marymccurnin @ 12

incandescent with rage-there is a poem in there somewhere peanutbutter.

Fluorescent rage creates less CO2 pollution & is pretty effective.

Guess it’s time for me to change those bulbs out! :-)

Ed*ard Teller @ 22

I’m going to be presenting Hugh’s list at a political event later this month. I’ve decided to present it as a scroll. In case you’re unfamiliar with Hugh’s list of Bush scandals, it is a compilation of W’s most egregious acts, most of them impeachable offenses far more serious than anything Bill Clinton was accused of. Here’s how long the scroll will be, depending on which point type size I choose:

16-pt – 166 pages – 124 feet – 6 inches

14-pt – 128 pages – 96 feet long

12-pt – 97 pages – 72 feet – 9 inches

10-pt - 69 pages – 51 feet – 9 inches

ET,
FWIW, I would go with the smaller font. Hard to read yet still an impressive amount of paper used.

So, let’s see….

The State Department is in a state of mutiny.
Blackwater is now under DOD.
Rummy is still in the basement at DOD, and perhaps Gates is answering to his daily snowflakes.
Cheney wants to bomb Iran, but Condi wants to use other means.
Hughes resigns from State Department.

There’s a war on alright…Cheney/Addington/DOD vs State Department….and W…well, he’s a sociopath who has his other war…with the Democratic Congress.

Biodun @ 27

From Article 1, Section 9, of the US Constitution:

The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.

the RIGHT of habeas corpus is the ONLY right expressly listed in the body of the constitution. Kind of gives you the idea that our founders thought it might be pretty important. Too bad that there are some who don’t.

Biodun @ 27

From Article 1, Section 9, of the US Constitution:

The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.

but but but but …. but but … this is diffrint!

Ed*ard Teller @ 22

I’m going to be presenting Hugh’s list at a political event later this month. I’ve decided to present it as a scroll. In case you’re unfamiliar with Hugh’s list of Bush scandals, it is a compilation of W’s most egregious acts, most of them impeachable offenses far more serious than anything Bill Clinton was accused of. Here’s how long the scroll will be, depending on which point type size I choose:

16-pt – 166 pages – 124 feet – 6 inches

14-pt – 128 pages – 96 feet long

12-pt – 97 pages – 72 feet – 9 inches

10-pt - 69 pages – 51 feet – 9 inches

Be ready for blowback … someone asking why you had to waste so much paper to make your point … I would go with the 16-pt just to make more of a point as the scroll is unfurled …

Ed*ard Teller @ 22

I’m going to be presenting Hugh’s list at a political event later this month. I’ve decided to present it as a scroll. In case you’re unfamiliar with Hugh’s list of Bush scandals, it is a compilation of W’s most egregious acts, most of them impeachable offenses far more serious than anything Bill Clinton was accused of. Here’s how long the scroll will be, depending on which point type size I choose:

16-pt – 166 pages – 124 feet – 6 inches

14-pt – 128 pages – 96 feet long

12-pt – 97 pages – 72 feet – 9 inches

10-pt - 69 pages – 51 feet – 9 inches

That is so cool!!!

recycled paper ET.

There was no declaration of war by Congress. Let’s just start with that and work backwards eliminating everything as invalid that depends on war powers.

Petrocelli @ 33

Ed*ard Teller @ 22

I’m going to be presenting Hugh’s list at a political event later this month. I’ve decided to present it as a scroll. In case you’re unfamiliar with Hugh’s list of Bush scandals, it is a compilation of W’s most egregious acts, most of them impeachable offenses far more serious than anything Bill Clinton was accused of. Here’s how long the scroll will be, depending on which point type size I choose:

16-pt – 166 pages – 124 feet – 6 inches

14-pt – 128 pages – 96 feet long

12-pt – 97 pages – 72 feet – 9 inches

10-pt - 69 pages – 51 feet – 9 inches

Be ready for blowback … someone asking why you had to waste so much paper to make your point … I would go with the 16-pt just to make more of a point as the scroll is unfurled …

Which is why the smaller font makes more sense. Still an impresive amount of paper yet the smaller font size…

katymine @ 31:

Yep. Habeas corpus is an article of the Constitution and not an amendment….

Woohoo Christy is on Thom Hartman right now!

And on that subject of Blackwater and R’s at war with D’s, this is apropos: You Killed It: Now It’s back

I think it’s critically important to keep Blackwater out of California, and to start work on shutting their other facilities in other states down. The more they get, the harder they will be to oust.

It was absolutely chilling to watch them announce that they should help out with the fires. Sheyeah, right.

TexBetsy @ 35

recycled paper ET.

Good one Betsy !

I would go with the cost of producing the paper Vs the Trillions of Dollars that Bush has added to the National Debt.

katymine @ 39

Woohoo Christy is on Thom Hartman right now!

Ops wrong Christy

dakine01 @ 37

Petrocelli @ 33

Be ready for blowback … someone asking why you had to waste so much paper to make your point … I would go with the 16-pt just to make more of a point as the scroll is unfurled …

Which is why the smaller font makes more sense. Still an impresive amount of paper yet the smaller font size…

Come on dakine01 … as men, we know that size matters … *g*

fein wrote a nice piece but I think the ramifications of loosing habeas protection needs to be personalized;

without habeas protection an official, (any official by the way) could arrest anyone they didn’t like, if they wanted to put their bussiness out of bussiness, if they had an interest in the persons wife or child, the could simply arrest the person and make beleive they had some kind of reason

they wouldn’t even need a law to make beleive they were acting on, they could write a new law AFTER the arrest and make believe that justified the arrest

and nobody would see evidence the official made up if the official didn’t want them to see it

that is the way it needs to be presented

things like;

“I don’t want someone to become an official so they can make up reasons to arrest their bussiness competitors”

“I don’t want some depraved official to arrest me because he has his eye on my wife or my daughter”

I can’t really get the right sentence to give the best impact but I think everyone gets the right idea

Petrocelli @ 43

dakine01 @ 37

Which is why the smaller font makes more sense. Still an impresive amount of paper yet the smaller font size…

Come on dakine01 … as men, we know that size matters … *g*

But as you say, the blowback becomes the issue. This way, it stops the blowback while still making the point.

dakine01 @ 37

Petrocelli @ 33

Be ready for blowback … someone asking why you had to waste so much paper to make your point … I would go with the 16-pt just to make more of a point as the scroll is unfurled …

Which is why the smaller font makes more sense. Still an impresive amount of paper yet the smaller font size…

Can I do it with narrow margins on toilet paper?

perris @ 44

fein wrote a nice piece but I think the ramifications of loosing habeas protection needs to be personalized;

without habeas protection an official, (any official by the way) could arrest anyone they didn’t like, if they wanted to put their bussiness out of bussiness, if they had an interest in the persons wife or child, the could simply arrest the person and make beleive they had some kind of reason

they wouldn’t even need a law to make beleive they were acting on, they could write a new law AFTER the arrest and make believe that justified the arrest

and nobody would see evidence the official made up if the official didn’t want them to see it

that is the way it needs to be presented

things like;

“I don’t want someone to become an official so they can make up reasons to arrest their bussiness competitors”

“I don’t want some depraved official to arrest me because he has his eye on my wife or my daughter”

I can’t really get the right sentence to give the best impact but I think everyone gets the right idea

How about, “When we lose Habeas Corpus, we lose America !”

Christy, when might we get an update on Jane ? I have to get back to writing, but will check back later to hear all’s well …

Ed*ard Teller @ 46

dakine01 @ 37

Which is why the smaller font makes more sense. Still an impresive amount of paper yet the smaller font size…

Can I do it with narrow margins on toilet paper?

Are you going to set it up with the “Hear ye, Hear ye” intro?

Ed*ard Teller @ 46

dakine01 @ 37

Which is why the smaller font makes more sense. Still an impresive amount of paper yet the smaller font size…

Can I do it with narrow margins on toilet paper?

That’s reserved for the State of the Union.

Does your printer take toilet paper?

Ed*ard Teller @ 46

dakine01 @ 37

Which is why the smaller font makes more sense. Still an impresive amount of paper yet the smaller font size…

Can I do it with narrow margins on toilet paper?

Use one of those brown rolls of hand towels with a nice brush script font!

Ed*ard Teller @ 46

dakine01 @ 37

Which is why the smaller font makes more sense. Still an impresive amount of paper yet the smaller font size…

Can I do it with narrow margins on toilet paper?

I saw a cartoon of Bush on the “throne” and beside him was a roll of toilet paper with The Constitution printed on each piece …

It would be interesting to see Hugh’s list with each item showing which part of the Constitution or law each one violates. Sort of an annotated Hugh’s list.

Ed*ard Teller @ 46

dakine01 @ 37

Which is why the smaller font makes more sense. Still an impresive amount of paper yet the smaller font size…

Can I do it with narrow margins on toilet paper?

Ooh, I’d buy that for sure.

Petrocelli @ 47

perris @ 44

fein wrote a nice piece but I think the ramifications of loosing habeas protection needs to be personalized;

without habeas protection an official, (any official by the way) could arrest anyone they didn’t like, if they wanted to put their bussiness out of bussiness, if they had an interest in the persons wife or child, the could simply arrest the person and make beleive they had some kind of reason

they wouldn’t even need a law to make beleive they were acting on, they could write a new law AFTER the arrest and make believe that justified the arrest

and nobody would see evidence the official made up if the official didn’t want them to see it

that is the way it needs to be presented

things like;

“I don’t want someone to become an official so they can make up reasons to arrest their bussiness competitors”

“I don’t want some depraved official to arrest me because he has his eye on my wife or my daughter”

I can’t really get the right sentence to give the best impact but I think everyone gets the right idea

How about, “When we lose Habeas Corpus, we lose America !”

that’s really not good enough, you and I understand that but most people don’t

every single time I have a conversation with a republican or a concervative, when I tell them what can happen without habeas protection they convert to the progressive point of view on that issue

it really is about personalizng the problem, framing the discussion

retirin’ in five @ 1

Zedliness?

zedliness is next to blogliness

perris @ 55

it really is about personalizng the problem, framing the discussion

Agree wholeheartedly. Dem’s really miss the boat on this one, and the GOP is very good at it - you have to make an EMOTIONAL appeal. Reason is simply less effective.

Ish @ 54

Ed*ard Teller @ 46

Can I do it with narrow margins on toilet paper?

Ooh, I’d buy that for sure.

Maybe we can get a Democratic congressional candidate to deliver a copy to Nancy Pelosi….?

perris @ 55

Petrocelli @ 47

How about, “When we lose Habeas Corpus, we lose America !”

that’s really not good enough, you and I understand that but most people don’t

every single time I have a conversation with a republican or a concervative, when I tell them what can happen without habeas protection they convert to the progressive point of view on that issue

it really is about personalizng the problem, framing the discussion

Point noted … how about describing what happens in secret trials in Russia or many tinpot dictatorships across the Globe, then say that is what happens without Habeas Corpus.

In Canada, we have Maher Arar’s example and many of us do not even fly through U.S. airports if at all possible.

Here’s a nice little expansion on the Rummy snowflake story:

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/....._1101.html

on w/ thom hartmann

Christy Hardin Smith @ 61

on w/ thom hartmann

Not fair that Christy Harvey before you…. got me confused …. wonder if my short term memory not working right since surgery…

Christy Hardin Smith @ 61

on w/ thom hartmann

linkerage to live stream

http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen

I am concerned about habeas corpus. And we are equally worried about Miranda. it is our view that Miranda is the other side of the liberty coin. If the Rebublicans get in the WH again, it just could be bye, bye Miranda.

More Irony … Chinese government says foreign leaders are being deceived by Dalai Lama …

I wonder how many of His Holiness’s followers own factories that poison children with lead paint and toxic pollution. China has registered a large jump in autism among kids due to environmental pollution … and they’re ridiculing The Dalai Lama ?!!

Christy on Thom Hartmann’s program.

Punmeister !

oregondave @ 66

Christy on Thom Hartmann’s program.

You can also stream through itunes. in the left hand column, click on ‘radio’, then ‘talk/spoken word’ then double click on air america.

perris @ 63

Christy Hardin Smith @ 61

on w/ thom hartmann

linkerage to live stream

http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen

thanks perris!

Merry Christmas from Chrysler.

AP - Chrysler LLC said Thursday it plans to cut up to 12,000 jobs, or up to 15 percent of its workforce, as part of an effort to slash costs and match slowing demand for some vehicles.

Christy!!!! That was great!!

ET, how can we adapt THIS to your purposes?

Job well done, Christy! :-)

katymine @ 31

Biodun @ 27

From Article 1, Section 9, of the US Constitution:

the RIGHT of habeas corpus is the ONLY right expressly listed in the body of the constitution. Kind of gives you the idea that our founders thought it might be pretty important. Too bad that there are some who don’t.

And it’s expressly listed under both Article I & II that one can’t suspend it except when the country is invaded or under insurrection…it made sure that both the Congress and the President did not have the power to do so!

And the Supreme Court during Lincoln’s tenure overturned his suspensions pointing out that lawful and orderly Courts were sill available for dealing with habeas corpus challenges. The area of insurrection was limited. THEY interpreted the ability to suspend habeus corpus to refer to the lack of functioning courts during a civil insurrection or invasion.

CHS:

Constitution, rule of law, Mukasey, SCHIP.

The idea that Republicans claim Democrats are trying to politicize the DoJ issue “one of the most laughable things” she’s heard all week.

Great work, Christy, you covered a lot of important material in a very short time. Radio is a tough medium and you do extremely well on it.

Christy says: “speech at the Heritage Foundation I forced myself to listen to…”

LOL!

LS @ 36

There was no declaration of war by Congress. Let’s just start with that and work backwards eliminating everything as invalid that depends on war powers.

Habeas Corpus can only be suspended during an invasion or civil insurrection. These have not happened. An oveseas war gives Bush no authority under the Constitution to suspend habeas corpus of anyone.

LS @60

It also explains why Rummy kept suggesting all detainees were caputerd on the battlefield, when we now know people were being hoovered up from all over the World. The World is the battlefield to Rummy.

cinnamonape @ 77

LS @ 36

There was no declaration of war by Congress. Let’s just start with that and work backwards eliminating everything as invalid that depends on war powers.

Habeas Corpus can only be suspended during an invasion or civil insurrection. These have not happened. An oveseas war gives Bush no authority under the Constitution to suspend habeas corpus of anyone.

I was just referring to “everything” they have done using extraordinary powers due to war as the excuse. Actually, W considers the Homeland a battleground in the so-called war on terra, because the terrrrrists can be anywhere and everywhere, so I’m sure he’d argue that we have indeed been “invaded”…JMHO

Oklahoma kiddo @ 70

Merry Christmas from Chrysler.

AP - Chrysler LLC said Thursday it plans to cut up to 12,000 jobs, or up to 15 percent of its workforce, as part of an effort to slash costs and match slowing demand for some vehicles.

That must be what they meant by … “The New Chrysler: Toyota but with soul !”

egregious @ 75

CHS:

Constitution, rule of law, Mukasey, SCHIP.

The idea that Republicans claim Democrats are trying to politicize the DoJ issue “one of the most laughable things” she’s heard all week.

Great work, Christy, you covered a lot of important material in a very short time. Radio is a tough medium and you do extremely well on it.

Hear, hear!

Legalize Torture?

http://freewayblogger.blogspot.....llery.html

Have a Nice Uday!

We alrady have taxation without representation. If the rule of law breaks down (Blackwater, Gonzales, Mukasey, Alito, Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, etc.) we will have chaos and anarchy. I for one disapprove of this possibility.

ET’s printing efforts deserve a scroll for presentation, imo. Perhaps a couple of modified paper-towel rolls would work. Oh, oh, how about portions of broom-sticks?

TexBetsy @ 72

ET, how can we adapt THIS to your purposes?

LOL! - off to teach class, pups.

Dow -232

Imagine this: You are arrested for a crime you did not commit. You ask for a lawyer. The arresting authority retorts ‘don’t make us laugh’. Just confess and we will go easy on you.

LS @ 86

Dow -232

60% of stocks are owned by one%.

AP reports - Ted Kennedy will NOT vote for Mukasey … one more down…

scarlet p. @ 82

Legalize Torture?

http://freewayblogger.blogspot.....llery.html

Have a Nice Uday!

Thanks. I just re-posted.

I couldn’t hold back for Late Nite … Durex wants public to test their condoms …

“”What better way to make sure that our condoms are meeting the needs of Canadians than to ask Canadians first-hand?” …

“Durex wants condom users to not only have safe sex, but to also have fun,” says Stephen Mare, Brand Manager, Durex consumer products.

I’ll bet Dollars to Donuts that Stephen has never heard the term “Russian Roulette” !

Isn’t it great to know that we have a neverending stream of (in)competent managers at Durex, Chrysler, GM and the White House. /s

Oklahoma kiddo @ 87

Imagine this: You are arrested for a crime you did not commit. You ask for a lawyer. The arresting authority retorts ‘don’t make us laugh’. Just confess and we will go easy on you.

OKK — this happens already. There is nothing in the law that says that police can’t do the “good cop/bad cop” on someone they arrest, get a statement and THEN read them their rights. There is nothing in the law that says in what order police have to do that.

Petrocelli @ 80

Oklahoma kiddo @ 70

Merry Christmas from Chrysler.

AP - Chrysler LLC said Thursday it plans to cut up to 12,000 jobs, or up to 15 percent of its workforce, as part of an effort to slash costs and match slowing demand for some vehicles.

That must be what they meant by … “The New Chrysler: Toyota but with soul !”

This makes the economy seem not so good. Where’s the Republic chorus demanding tax cuts?

Toby Wollin @ 91

Oklahoma kiddo @ 87

Imagine this: You are arrested for a crime you did not commit. You ask for a lawyer. The arresting authority retorts ‘don’t make us laugh’. Just confess and we will go easy on you.

OKK — this happens already. There is nothing in the law that says that police can’t do the “good cop/bad cop” on someone they arrest, get a statement and THEN read them their rights. There is nothing in the law that says in what order police have to do that.

Really???? I’d like to see THAT on one of the evening cop shows.

Petrocelli @ 91 … sorry mod, what did I miss ?

Morning all :)

Completely OT, but at least I’m consistent ;)

LOL.
This is something my dad would have done. There’s lots of love and humor in that family…

http://www2.kucinich.us/node/934

Oklahoma kiddo @ 87

Imagine this: You are arrested for a crime you did not commit. You ask for a lawyer. The arresting authority retorts ‘don’t make us laugh’. Just confess and we will go easy on you.

even that is too benign, substitute like so;

“imagine your bussiness competitor wants you to cloe down, he pays off an official, tells the official he “heard” you are a terrorist, the official arrests you and your bussines is closed down”

“imagine they can’t even find a crime to charge you with, no problem, you will be arrested anyway, they will then figure out something that sounds like it could be suspicious,, make a new law AFTER the person was arrested and charge them with a crime that never existed until they wanted to find a reason to keep you in jail”

jackie @ 95

Morning all :)

Completely OT, but at least I’m consistent ;)

LOL.
This is something my dad would have done. There’s lots of love and humor in that family…

http://www2.kucinich.us/node/934

Thanks for the laugh!

Aha!!! Remember all that “stuff” Karl was leaving with when he left for TX??? Well, apparently, he has “notes” that he’s using to write a book with…maybe that’s what he took with him that day????…:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/1/131233/426

twolf1 @ 68

oregondave @ 66

Christy on Thom Hartmann’s program.

You can also stream through itunes. in the left hand column, click on ‘radio’, then ‘talk/spoken word’ then double click on air america.

Thanks twolf! I can’t get aa to stream through their site, but was able to get it through itunes. Much appreciated. :)

From what I’ve read today, Sen. Diane Warprofiteer from California is the only thing that can stop a denial of Mukassey for AG.

Anyway we can get a pre-emptive movement to get her on the correct side of the law on this one? Shes almost as bad as Lieberman, imo. Maybe we can get her to do the right thing this time?

completely OT -

in the last few weeks c-span has been undergoing a MAJOR upgrade to their archives.

for example - take a look at today’s page for the house floor - it’s being updated in almost real time, with all kinds of bells and whistles. makes finding, watching and linking to a specific clip easy