(Please welcome host Sidney Blumenthal and author Valerie Plame Wilson in the comments today, here to discuss her new book Fair Game: My Life as a Spy, My Betrayal by the White House -- JH)
None of Valerie Plame’s elaborate training to become an elite covert operative for the CIA prepared her for the Byzantine, vicious and dispiriting smear campaigns directed against her and her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, in Bush’s Washington. When he felt compelled to tell the truth about President Bush’s false rationale for the invasion of Iraq—the infamous 16 words in his 2003 State of the Union address claiming Saddam Hussein was securing yellow uranium for nuclear weapons—Vice President Dick Cheney ordered the defamation of Wilson’s reputation. When the White House apparatus was instantly set in motion, with Cheney’s chief of staff I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby serving as the action officer on the op, and Karl Rove and Ari Fleischer relentlessly pressing the “scoop” on reporters, Plame still toiled away unknowing at her job at the CIA seeking information about the existence of weapons of mass destruction, not only in Iraq but also Iran and other dangerous places. In the blink of an eye, as quickly as Rove says to Chris Matthews, “Wilson’s wife is fair game,” Plame’s carefully constructed secret identity, her worldwide network of informants and the vital flow of intelligence on WMDs were blown apart.
Valerie Plame Wilson’s just published book, “Fair Game: My Life as a Spy, My Betrayal by the White House,” is her personal account of helplessly observing her career being shattered as in an out-of-body experience. “Fair Game” is rife with long redacted passages that the CIA censors insisted upon, though the information they blacked out was mostly on the public record. (The publisher, Simon & Schuster recruited investigative reporter Laura Rozen to fill in these blanks in an indispensable afterword.) The omissions only heighten the intrigue.
In the beginning Plame appears as Jane Bond. She describes her schooling in the arts of spycraft at the CIA’s “Farm,” where she discovers among other things that she is a crack shot, unafraid of diving out of planes and crawling through enemy fire. The details of her training discredit the long propagated falsehood by a host of conservative spinners, from the columnist Robert Novak to the attorney Victoria Toensing, that Plame was never a covert operative. Plame’s account of her clandestine work based at the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, which also required trips abroad, further demolishes the lie.
After years in the field, Plame is assigned to a new group called the Counterproliferation Division within the Department of Operations, dubbed as the “island of misfit toys” within the agency. The search for WMDs becomes a concentrated goal. In the run up to the war in Iraq, Plame is one of the key officers tasked to locate them. One of the most knowledgeable operatives, she continues to believe that it is highly likely that Saddam indeed has WMDs and is hiding them. Moreover, CIA director George Tenet sends around a memo, which also is intended for the Congress then voting on the Authorization for the Use of Military Force, claiming that there are proven links between Saddam and al Qaeda—false information that Plame (and the Congress) has no way of knowing is wrong. Plame works night and day to attempt to make the case, but fails to unearth evidence.
On February 5, 2003, Secretary of State Colin Powell presents the “facts” before the United Nations Security Council. Tenet sits behind Powell to underscore the reliability of his speech. “When the program ended and we all drifted back to our desks,” writes Plame, “I was deeply upset, my head spinning. I was experiencing what I can only call cognitive dissonance… I had been tracking Iraqi WMD efforts carefully for some time [redacted] and the facts I knew simply did not match up with what Powell had just presented.” Later, of course, Powell’s presentation was revealed as utter disinformation. At the time, Plame wondered, “Perhaps someone had managed to recruit a source deep inside Saddam’s innermost circle who was providing alarming evidence of his plans.” She has no knowledge that what Powell says is true. “The idea that my government, which I had served loyally for years, might be exaggerating a case for war was impossible to comprehend. Nothing made sense.”
After ‘Mission Accomplished,” Wilson discloses in a New York Times op-ed, “What I Didn’t Find In Africa,” that the administration’s justification for war was rooted in falsehood. Having been sent to Niger to uncover Saddam’s nefarious uranium buying scheme, he reported to the CIA that he could find no such evidence. The supposed documents used to prove it turned out to be forged. Who forged them remains a mystery. Immediately upon publication of Wilson's op-ed, Cheney swings his underlings into action. Plame becomes collateral damage.
The reason for destroying the cover of a CIA operative was purely political. Cheney, et al showed absolutely no concern for protecting national security. Rather, they were intent on defending the administration and their policies from Wilson’s truthful revelation. Wilson had to be besmirched, and so they outed Plame. Systematically, they told reporters that she was behind sending her husband on the mission, a “junket,” as Cheney calls it, in order to distract and discredit. With her identity exposed, Plame’s utility was at an end. There can be no doubt that this breach seriously compromised national security.
One abiding mystery unaddressed in Plame’s book remains the role of former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, who corroborated Novak’s story (Rove being his main source) and leaking Plame’s name to Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward for potential use in a book to be published later (not for a current newspaper article). The close friend and number two to Powell, Armitage was not one of the neoconservatives or part of Cheney’s bureaucratic machinery. Why Armitage? Armitage himself has yet to explain. Nor do we know the full contents of his grand jury testimony, though it may be unlikely that his exact motives were subject to interrogation by the special prosecutor. Sources in the intelligence community tell me that Armitage wished to be appointed CIA director in Bush’s second term. Armitage also had a long relationship with Rove. Moreover, Armitage had never before deigned to speak with or even return a phone call from Novak. Yet he called Novak himself to confirm Plame’s identity. It seems inconceivable that Armitage did this completely at his own initiative. Pointing to Armitage as a leaker settles nothing. Libby, Rove and Fleischer, meanwhile, were all leaking furiously. And Armitage has yet to explain.
After her outing, Plame enters a bewildering world. The spymaster becomes the prey. Her government degrades the valued agent. The lies come so fast they are impossible to rebut. Detailed explanations exploding the falsehoods are ignored by a complicit press.
The Republican controlled Senate Select Committee on Intelligence summons Plame and her CIA colleagues, only to issue a false report, given credence by the editorial page of the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal. The testimony of her fellow operative at the CIA who actually recommended Wilson for his Niger mission is deliberately omitted. Distressed, he tells Plame, “They twisted my testimony… I recommended Joe for the trip, don’t you remember. I told the committee this, but they didn’t include it in the report.” This officer writes a memo asking for permission from the CIA “that he be allowed to testify again to the SSCI to correct the record, but was told unequivocally that that was not possible.”
Her career is ruined; his business has dried up. The lies rain down. The Washington Post editorial page, a stalwart ally of Libby throughout his trial, publishes an editorial on September 1, 2006, blaming Wilson for the outing of his wife, and repeating lock, stock and barrel the falsehood of the Republican propaganda from the SSCI. “I suddenly understood what it must have felt like to live in the Soviet Union and have only the state propaganda entity, Pravda, as the source of news about the world.”
Even before the Libby guilty verdict, the CIA begins censoring her manuscript. She is not permitted to write the birth dates of her children. “It was the bureaucratic equivalent of Groundhog Day…”
Wilson and Plame do not attend the trial, of course, but follow it on the Internet through the assiduous courtroom reporting of the team for Firedoglake.com. The documentation introduced by the prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, demolishes Libby’s defense—and the smear campaign—though those publications that perpetrated it make no amends, including the Post editorial page. Instead, on the weekend before the closing arguments, the Post “Outlook” section publishes Victoria Toensing’s mendacious article accusing Wilson of “misleading the public about how he was sent to Niger,” insisting that Fitzgerlad has no reason for an investigation and that Plame was “not covert.” The Post makes no effort to publish another piece in “Outlook” containing the facts.
With the verdict finding Libby guilty of obstruction of justice and perjury, the case is closed. But the truth remains to be known. Libby has successfully covered up for Cheney. According to Fitzgerald, a "cloud" remains over the vice president. Then Bush pardons Libby, completing the obstruction. Cheney escapes.
“Fair Game” is one of the essential documents of the Bush era, a harrowing personal account of betrayal. The betrayals of the Bush administration have become so numerous that they seem almost casual by now. Yet for Valerie Plame Wilson the personal was more than political. Betraying her was not just another lie, another smear, another Swift-boating. It was a breach of national security.
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Welcome, Mrs. Wilson. Thank you for being here today. I want you to know that your determination, courage and persistence strengthen my own spine. I have been following your story ever since Jane, Christy and Marcy have been writing about it. Your story and the Downing Street memos were the two events that woke me from my waking slumber and made me realize how urgent it was to pay attention to what was going on in our government. I never let disparaging references to you pass unchallenged anymore, and I never will. Thank you again for your service to our nation.
Thank you Valerie!
Welcome Mrs Wilson!
Hello, Valerie! Welcome to the lake!
Welcome Sidney, welcome Valerie. Good to have you here today. I very much look forward to reading the book.
Greetings, Ms Wilson, and thank you for the opportunity to speak with you.
I, like many here, have followed your case closely from the moment you became a public figure. I think that what has been done to you and to America’s real interests in this affair is dastardly without doubt, and may well be treasonous.
I noted, in the days just before Mr. Novak’s infamous column, that Ambassador Wilson’s call out of the “16 words” in the NY Times resulted in the first ever admission on the part of the Bush administration that the president may have “misspoken” or “made a mistake” about something. That marked the event with special significance for me – and for others, I reckon.
I also noted your comment in the interview with Ms. Couric to the effect that, given your expertise and knowledge, you were (rightly) taken aback by Secretary Powell’s UN testimony.
With those issues in mind, I’d like to hear from you on the question, “What did they know, and when did they know it?”
By “they” I mean Mr. Cheney and his inner circle of warhawks in the administration. By “know” I mean your identity as a lead agent in sussing out WMD intelligence relating to nation states that begin with the letter “I”. So my question:
Can you say whether you met Dick Cheney face-to-face in connection your job with the CIA before the March 2003 launch of the Iraq War? How about Scooter Libby? Or John Hannah? Or David Wurmser? Or Fred Fleitz? Or John Bolton? Or Steven Hadley?
I’m weary of waiting for the “Phase II” report, you see, and I hope you can shed some careful public light on how certain players “used” intelligence before and after the launch of the deadly misadventure we call the War in Iraq.
Valerie, sincere welcome and thanks for your years of service in my name.
As I’m sure you know, you are at home among friends here and we are very grateful for your willingness to join us as one of your first stops as you promote your book. My preordered audio book is expected at any moment and I look forward to it eagerly.
I am interested to know what strategies and skills you feel you developed as you have waited for the Libby trial, your civil suit (condolences) and now the release of your book. It seems it would take one set of strengths to perform as a covert CIA agent for 20 years and perhaps a different set to deal with such soul-numbing frustration as well as the sudden shift to such a radically different life. Did your experience with postpartum depression inform you , or was it more political than personal in terms of the surrounding circumstances?
In terms of what we expect will be some tough responses by the Right, I would like to offer this:
“I know what I have given you. I do not know what you have received.” Antonio Porchia
All blessings to you and your family, and thanks again.
Namaste
zennurse
Welcome Valerie! You are my hero.
Good morning Mr. and Mrs. Wilson
Amazing book and an amazing lady.
(((((((Valerie!)))))))
Congrats on your new Book!
According to all the reviews I’ve read, about 10% of your book has been “redacted” by the CIA. I’m confident that when you wrote the book that you felt that information could be published without compromising national security. Do you think any of the redactions that were made had legitimate national security rationales behind them? And on a related note, can you provide any insight into how much other information is being (or remains) classified whose release would not threaten national security?
(PS…like everyone else, I think you are an American hero of the first order!)
Valerie Plame Wilson, I am unable to state adequately what an honor it is to have you at FDL. Our nation owes you a great debt and we are all deeply, deeply appreciative of your selfless service to our country. I am sorry that we as Americans have not had more success in holding accountable those who have so seriously wronged you and our nation. Please rest assured that FDL and many other communities will press on. For today the best I could do was purchase your book via the FDL link.
Thank you so much for both your service and your sacrifice. You and your husband are true American Super Heroes.
My hero!
Valerie, would it be accurate to say that your career was not the only one destroyed when your cover was blown, i.e. co-workers whose life’s work went up in smoke?
What an honor to have you. thanks
Thank you Valerie for your very serious service to our country. Thank both you and your husband for speaking truth to power. You are both American heroes.
Will the American public ever have access to any of the reports about the damage done to your organization, your people, or to our nation by your outing? I have read that it will take 10 years for the CIA to recover from your outing.
Welcome Valerie — and thank you to Sidney for the introduction today. Like Jane, I’m looking forward to reading the book as well.
Hi it’s Valerie Plame Wilson and I’m thrilled to be on FDL. Hi Sidney!
Valerie Plame Wilson:
I have a question for you that has long haunted me regarding the treachery that exposed your CIA affiliation. While it looked at first blush that you were outed purely as political payback against your husband there have been many lingering questions/suspicions that your outing was also at least in part to deliberately destroy your unit so as to prevent the CIA from contradicting the nuclear threat assessments regarding Iran’s supposed nuclear program just as the Administration ginned up “intelligence” regarding Iraq’s non-existent nuclear programs was in 2002-03 which was not believed by those with the greatest expertise within the intelligence community on nuclear issues. Do you have any reason to think that you and your network/section may have been the primary target all along by this Administration either to destroy your network or at the minimum to send a message to the intelligence community that to contradict anything the Bush Administration says will trigger harsh repercussions even to the extent of blowing deep covers of operatives as you and your cover business covers was blown?
Thank you for considering this question, and even more so for your work on nuclear anti-proliferation. In your job you were not just protecting American and Americans from this threat but all of us on the planet and your exposure was a treachery against the entire free/western world in my opinion. What was done to you was a travesty of the highest order and I can only pray that none within your network did not suffer the ultimate penalty as a result of the treachery against you. I recognized/understood that damage the day you were blown because I was raised by a relative that worked in Intelligence from the mid 1930s to the mid 60s and had as a result of that learned much about that world from that relative growing up. Indeed it fascinated me greatly and because of that I understood the full implications and therefore the full ramifications of exposing a NOC not just to the NOC but anyone that ever interacted with the NOC both professionally and personally.
You are someone that deserves nothing but the highest respect and admiration, not the travesties that you have received since you were betrayed by your own government. For what it is worth you have my and my family’s highest regard and respect for the work you did and for your unwillingness to be cowed by those that see nothing wrong in trashing real heroes like yourself when it suits partisan political considerations. I look forward to reading your book as soon as my local library has it (sorry, can’t afford to buy hardcovers these days no matter how much I want them…sigh) as I am second on the hold request list for it.
Valerie,
I’d like to thank you, for your work on behalf of our country for standing up to the Administration, but most especially for inspiring my 15-year-old daughter. Strong female role models are sometimes hard to find in the real world (except here at the Lake, of course) and because of you, she is now considering a career in government service after college.
This question is from her: Many people have described you, quite rightly, as very beautiful. Since this isn’t the normal picture one has of a spy - most people think of characters from Tom Clancy novels - were there times in your career when you didn’t feel you were being taken as seriously as your male collegues or felt your missions were more difficult to accomplish because of your appearance?
Welcome, Valerie, and thank you for your service to our country.
Last nite, you told Katie Couric “It turns out the President is not a man of his word.” My question is this: Did you think, when you heard Bush say he’d fire anyone connected with leaking your name, that he was a man of his word? When did you realize Bush was not a man of his word?
Again, welcome and thank you.
Along with everyone here at the lake, I have to give you my thanks, for your selfless service and your unbending patriotism.
I have to also give you and your husband my personal thanks for arousing the activist in me, if not for your husband’s fearless piece in the New York times I would not have become nearly as studious with regards to our government and then state of affairs we are faced with in these time where we have an administration that actually believes the armed forces of the Unites States of America is nothing but a tool they can use to line their pockets.
And that was the real purpose of war in Iraq, their goal was to pillage the national assets of the middle east, not pillage for our country’s sake (which would have been bad enough), but to pillage for their own bank accounts
then to squander the assets Americans have invested over generations so they themselves could take a small percentage of those assets for themselves and their cohorts.
And then to take the assets of our children, saddling each and every American with a debt in the tens of thousands…PER PERSON, INCLUDING CHILDREN NOT YET BORN!
their only purpose is to steal and it is the greatest theft in the history of planet earth
from Raw Story article by Larisa Alexandrovna:
“The revelation that Iran was the focal point of Plame’s work raises new questions as to possible other motivating factors in the White House’s decision to reveal the identity of a CIA officer working on tracking a WMD supply network to Iran, particularly when the very topic of Iran’s possible WMD capability is of such concern to the Administration.”
Valerie,
It’s a pleasure.
Would you please elaborate on these “new questions” for us?
Thanx,
Dan
Valery, I have few questions I hope you are at liberty to answer about Brewster Jennings and Associates, the fact that this company is mostely ignored by the media gives me reason to believe there is much more there then even meets the eye;
1)Are you able to give us a rough idea how many assets used this brass plate corporation as their cover?
Are you able to give us rough figures telling us how great the monetary investment in that corporation?
I know the CIA was livid when they discovered your cover exposed, were they more upset over the assets lost due to Brewster& Jennings?
I had a conversation with your husband when he took questions here at the lake and I brought up a point he said he had not considered till I broached the subject;
We know as a fact the vice president had intentions of not only attacking Iraq before he ever took his oath of office, but he also intended on attacking Iran
We also know that you one of your commissions was the on going surveillance monitoring nuclear acquisition of Iran.
I am led to believe your exposure was as much intended to end your program as it was an attack on your husband…
your program wasn’t delivering the information the vice president wanted to become public and it is all too convenient the very program that would help us from initiating yet another unprovoked attack on a country that poses no threat is the program that was also exposed when they attacked your husband.
And what kind of cowards are these in office…they seem to enjoy attacking the wives of their adversaries, the way they attacked McCain’s wife and family, the way they attacked Kerrie’s wife and now how they actually put your life at peril, every contact you’ve made over the time of your career at peril, even those friends associates and family NOT involved in covert operations, their lives put at peril…in their lame attempt to discredit the opinion piece your husband wrote…these are cowards of the worst order, willing to spend national security and lives to quiet the truth.
Dear Mrs. Plame: I applaud you and your husband’s bravery and honesty in going up against the massive dishonesty of BushCo. How weird was the “partisan” question that Katie Couric asked?
Welcome to FDL, Valerie Plame Wilson! Thanks you for your service to our/your country! And congratulations on your book.
Unfortuantely, I am not able to comment on my work with Iran… but I think it is pretty clear that the exposure of my covert identity was political payback for Joe’s criticism of the administation.
Welcome to the lake Valerie. I pre-ordered thru Amazon and they are giving me a 11-3 thru 11-8 due to arrive date. Looking forward to reading it.
Ms Wilson, thank you for your service to our country. Both my parents were CIA veterans. What was done to you by our government was treason, IMO.
Question for you: The CIA recalled you from Europe in the late 90s because they thought you might be on A. Ames’ “list.” Since you were later sent back into overseas duty, can we assume that you were not on Mr. Ames’ list?
Welcome Mrs Wilson and thank you for your service to the country. I plan on buying your new book this weekend. I wanted to tell you that your interview with Katy Couric was quite good - you appeared very confident and showed that you would not take any bunk from an interviewer.
Do you think you were purposely taken out so that the radical right wing warmongers could beat the “go to war with Iran” drums unencumbered? You know get the information you were collecting about Iran out of play?
What do you think that Judy Miller had to do with your outing? I have read that your identity “allegedly” went from her to the White House. Do you know if there is any truth to this?
I have a question. Has the harrassment continued?
Hi, Sidney. Welcome to FDL, Valerie! I bought your book this morning, and it seems to be a quick read, since so much of it was redacted by the CIA. Frustrating, but perhaps the Afterword will make up for that. It’s much longer than I expected, which is great. How did you chose Laura Rozen to write it? I love her blog, http://www.warandpiece.com/
I almost want to start reading that first, so I can guess what the redacted parts are while reading.
Heartfelt thanks to you and your husband for your service to this country. And, sincere empathy and disgust for the slime baths you both have had to endure.
I’m sure that you have met and worked with many fine, principled people during your career. I’m sure, too, that you are not the only good people to wind up on the wrong end of ugly political machinations.
Why aren’t more people fighting back and speaking out? Is it that principle get smothered by reality so easily?
Hi Valerie, and welcome to FDL!!!
I have a slightly OT question — what is the current status of the Warner Brothers movie? Is it still in development? Is it close to production?
The reason I ask is that my friend Jessica could easily pass for your sister, and she looks more like you than any of the name actors that have been mentioned for the role. I’ve encouraged her to put together a screen test, to see what happens. She would be great in the role, but we understand that it would be a long shot at best. But even if it led to work as a stand in, or character development assistant, or whatever, it would be a great opportunity for her.
What is the current stage of development for the film project?
As I read the book yesterday, I came to the part when the trial of Scooter Libby was playing out, You said that Joe was following the coverage hear until 5;00pm or so and that later, you would follow it some also.
I always knew in my heart that you were lurking here and am tickled you mentioned it in your book.
Valerie, welcome and thank you for your years of service to our country.
I hope you are receiving a very warm welcome in Santa Fe!
I cannot stay this morning. Nor should I. This is Valerie’s coming out party with all of you whose support has been so important in this fight. But I did want to make three points.
1. Isn’t Valerie great. She handled 60 Minutes last night with great aplomb. She is the best thing that ever happened to me and I am just so proud of her.
2. This story is not, and has never been, about Valerie or me. It has always been about the administration and the Republican party’s willingness to lie, cover up, and condone the betrayal of our National Security. The administration and its lackeys have subverted our very democracy by their actions. This fight is about restoring constitutional rule to our great country. Our case is the mechanism through which we take the fight to the opposition. While we would much prefer to live our lives privately like other Americans, away from the harsh glare of the right wing smear machine, we realize that is not an option. When our kids ask us, twenty years from now, “Where were you when it counted,” our answer will be “On the front lines.”
3. Two people in Washington helped us understand the broader implications of the fight we have found ourselves in: Sid Blumenthal, and Hillary Clinton. They had both been through the character assassination gauntlet, and were able to get us to see that the fight wasn’t personal, however painful it might be, but was all about how we conduct public debate and discourse in our democracy. I cannot tell you how many times they told us to pull up our socks and quit feeling sorry for ourselves because the future of the country is what really matters. I am eternally grateful to both for their wisdom and their profound understanding of the pernicious threat posed by the forces of the far right. If you haven’t read Sid’s books: The Clinton Wars and the Rise of the Counter Establishment you really should. It is an honor for me that my dear friend is part of Valerie’s day here with you. This has been a long battle, far longer for the Blumenthals and for the Clintons than for us, but bruising to all who have been subjected to the viciousness and the lies of the right.
Very few have emerged from the fire tempered rather than broken by the experience. Thanks to Sid and Hillary, I think we have, and I think that is reflected in what you have already seen of Valerie’s interviews. Have fun, and for those who may want to try to woo my wife away from me, I will be checking back later and will take names! Sweetheart, I love you.
They were never able to prove or disprove who
exactly was on Ames’ list. All we do know is that the CIA referred this case to the Justice Department in September 2003 for investigation of a possible criminal act.
Welcome Sidney and Valerie. Thank you for being here.
Thank you Mrs Wilson!
Ms. Wilson and Mr. Blumenthal, welcome.
I shudder to think how this all might have turned out had there been no such thing as the internets and Plame-ologists like Jane, Christy and Marcy when all this was fresh and new. Rather-gate blew over in a New York minute compared to this saga and so I don’t think the perps figured on blogs having such influence, either.
Can you play “What If”?
Valerie Plame Wilson @ 19
For every message of gratitude to you and Ambassador Wilson, there are a million more
who share the same sentiment but are unable to be here to express it.
Dear Mrs. Wilson,
The desire of people in the Executive Branch to attack Iran has gone from being a ‘tinfoil hat’ supposition to a widely accepted rumor. (Anyone: has it been confirmed?)
The triggering event is at present said to be Iran’s getting a nuclear weapon and even the ability to make one.
You allegedly were involved not only in monitoring the proliferation of WMDs abroad but specifically in monitoring and even impeding Iran’s nuclear program, whether or not that was/is aimed at production of weapons. I understand that you cannot confirm your involvement in this, but for the sake of argument, can we say that some of the same people in the Executive Branch who wish to attack Iran believed that you were involved in this way?
So, if you and your network had been permitted to function up to the time that the EB people wanted to attack Iran, the CIA would have had information that might have said Iran was not capable of making a nuclear weapon. Then, the EB would not have had their casus belli.
My suspicion is that you and your network were the principal target for the EB all along.
Does this seem possible to you?
Dear Ms. Wilson:
I have the utmost respect and admiration for you. You were treated most harshly by this administration, and keep on telling your story.
Congrats on your new book! There are many of us who support you and we are fighting to stop the many injustices of this administration.
Welcome Valerie,
Thank you for your service.
Have you run into the despicable Mr. Novak since his traitorous article?? Has he ever apologized in any form??
Thank you so much for your courage and service to our country, Mrs. Wilson… I had the pleasure of meeting your amazing husband at the first YearlyKos and admire both of you tremendously…
Smedley Butler would be proud of you and your husband!
Took the thread a few mins. to load or I’d be up on the thread content, Valerie.
The NYT article has interesting aside to how your got the name wrongly attributed via Judith Miller, itself telling in a lot of cover roles that could have been applied to others.
For starters, to discuss your standing in the CIA, I think the most relevant information on training could be provided regarding the current administration stance on torture, and how it is shunned by true experts for creating false leads and reinforcing previous bias about the opponent’s world view.
You agree that torture makes it harder to break true information for people who see themselves as part of a cause?
Could the torture narrative been made with the intent of crafting and shaping false narratives much like the WMD stories Miller and others piped out?
Mrs. Wilson,
I have a sense that the damage done to you and the country when you were outed was part of a much bigger effort to undermine elements of the CIA devoted to responsible national security actions and bolstering elements with authoritarian and jingoist tendencies.
Do you agree? Do you have a sense of how serious the damage is to the moral fabric of the CIA?
Valerie
Just a quick welcome before I rush off to a meeting. But I did have one question for you:
Accounts of your Today show appearance say that you suggested the Administration is capable of twisting intelligence again to justify war against Iran.
Can you expand on this (without addressing what you’ve done with Iran)? Now that you’re no longer privy to the intelligence, how would you identify twisted intell on Iran? What suggestions do you have for those of us trying to sift through what may be more lies?
to valerie plame wilson:
you are the quintessential american
patriot — and hero.
i offer my sincere thanks for your
bravery — and my sincere apologies
for how our government — the one “we,
the people“, should hold accountable,
has met your patriotism and heroism
with treachery and deceit.
like boo radley — i am off to buy
your book, now. . .
p e a c e
Joe Wilson @ 39
Sir, we love both of you tremendously and sincerely hope that you keep at it. Justice might have to wait until after Jan. ‘09 but we are there with you every step of the way !
Welcome Ms. Wilson for your service and courage. Thank you Sidney Blumenthal for giving us the opportunity to show how support of the Wilsons, directly to them. Thank you Joe for your courage and speaking out.
There is so much collected evidence of treason against this administration and still they are in power. Between “There was significant damage” and “My Betrayal by the White House”, not to mention as an aside the resignation of Ali Larijani this weekend, what more does it take for congress to take impeachment action? The accumulated evidence of treason against the Bush Administration should make congress feel the urgency as much as many of us feel it. Why do you think they are so passive and collusive?
I saw an earlier comment about FDL and how (frankly) obsessively Joe and I read the live blogs during the trial. What a huge breakthrough for media and how we can get our information! We hosted several FDLers including Jane and Christie and Marcy to our home for dinner during the trial and it was clear to me and Joe that they knew waaay more about the details of the case than we ever will. I am grateful to all of them for their passionate and dedicated efforts to get to the truth.
Hi Valerie,
What can you say about Tenet briefing Bush on 9/18/02 about Naji Sabri’s claim that Saddam had no WMDs?
Thank you for your service to our country. I’m sorry for what happened to you.
Mrs Wilson,
Thank you for your service and sacrifices.
I have to admit that it is sometimes difficult to look at the CIA as one of the “good guys” given the actions they were involved with in the ’60s and ’70s.
Did the findings of the Church Commission and the Iran/Contra hearings move the CIA away from the previously reported lawlessness of the 60s and 70s? Did the revelations inform the actions of you and your fellow agents in doing the correct and reputable actions?
Thank you for being here today and again for your sacrifices.
Valerie,
Would it be fair to say that your career was not the only one destroyed by your outing? That is, other people who you worked with had their careers indirectly destroyed?
I think I am going to faint.
Good morning Ms. Wilson. Thank you so much for coming.
One question.
Do you think that your outing was entirely to get back at your husband for daring to speak the truth? Or do you think that it was partially to STOP the CIA from finding out about WMD in Iran or Iraq?
Valerie Plame Wilson @ 56
This is a dedicated group, Valerie, as much as it is possible, we’re here for you.
PS Tell your friends.
I thought that the question on the TODAY show about the capability of this administration to distor intelligence regarding Iran was a good one. As Yoggi Berra said, “it’s deja vu all over again.” This time, however, I hope the American people are aware and ask questions and do not allow an inconsidered rush to war as with Iraq…
Thank you Sidney Blumenthal for all of your important reporting.
In the article Sidney wrote called “The Generals Revenge” it sure sounds like Colin Powell was duped. http://www.guardian.co.uk/comm.....79,00.html
In Sidney and Valerie and (Joe Wilson) if he is
here opinions, was Colin Powell duped?
Joe Wilson, you are a class act. I love what you wrote!
I join all the others in welcoming Valerie and hope that this book will help clarify things for the country. I’m looking forward to reading it soon.
one thing that bothers me is how the republian party has been able to frame the libby pardon in their terms instead of the correct terms
libby was convicted of covering up the crimes of traitors, whenever someone says “he obstructed justice” this does not give the crime the correct weight
“obstructing justice” was how he is convicted but covering the tracks of people who deliberately exposed assets vital to our national security is what happened
this is the way I would love to see democrats discuss the issue, they need to say “Irving Libby deliberately gave cover to traitors who committed treason and he continues giving cover to those traitors”
and then I would like to see the democrats go to the heart of the republican brand with;
“anyone that thinks the man who covered the tracks of these criminals enables the crime and can’t possibly call themselves patriots”
Valerie
Would you consider running for office or forming a PAC or anything political in your and Joe’s future?
Welcome and thanks to Ms. Valerie Plame Wilson for her continued, honorable service to our country. Trust us, it has not been in vain. I intend to buy the book today.
One thing I look forward to is Ms. Wilson’s appearance on The Daily Show and/or The Colbert Report with her book. Showing the redacted passages on their shows would make perfect, immortal visuals.
Ambassador Wilson @ 39
Nice smackdown of Ms Couric last night when she tried to offer the R talking points about Rove et al.
Thank you for your years of service to our country, Mrs. Wilson.
I just purchased two copies of Fair Game, one for myself & one for my daughter. Best of luck w/your opening sales figures.
What a joy to have both of you remarkable Americans honoring all of us with your presence this morning!
I am keenly interested to learn if a book tour is planned for your long awaited book. We would love welcoming you to the Monterey Peninsula and have many excellent venues to choose from for your countless admirers/readers.
I think Joe is teasing jayt for a comment yesterday. *g*
Ms. Plame, you are my personal hero. I have just one question for you:
What can we do to help? To help this country, to help your case, to help democracy; all of which are under fire. What can we do to help?
Thank you for your service.
Did you think the 60 minute piece was fair?
Why New Mexico?
Thank you for speaking the truth! You are an American hero for doing so. It’s an honor to read you blogging here!
Joe Wilson @ 39
Hi, Joe!
I think there’s another key part of the story you inadvertently left out: the importance of citizen generated media to fight for justice when establishment outlets remain in the tank for the administration, and against consitutional oversight and justice.
That, to me, is also what your terrible journey has been about, and it highlights the work of the readers and writers across the Internet who made sure your story was told, ensured the administration could not fire Fitz in the US Attorney purges without causing a mess. . . etc. Without all of us, it would have been Whitewater coverage all over again, tilted to lies, as Senator Clinton knows about all too well, unfortunately.
Welcome, Valerie. I too look forward to reading the book.
To the best of my knowledge, the leaking of my name and secret affiliation was primariy to undermine and discredit Joe’s report about Niger and his criticism of the admistration’s rationale for going to war. There is no question that character assissination is a tactic used by this crowd to silence their enemies.
Valerie -
I want to thank you and your husband for coming forward to tell what you know. It seems to me that what has happened to you is an example of where our lies lead us - to wars and to betrayal.
I am so fed up with being lied to by my own government - especially when it comes to reasons given to invade another country. I want it to stop.
We all know that the lies didn’t start with the reasons to attack Iraq in 2003. For example we now know that we were lied into attacking Iraq in 1991 (from the lies told to congress about babies being pulled from incubators to the lies about non-exsistent Iraqi forces threatening Saudi Arabia)
Now, at least, the story of your betrayal through lies and selective “leaks” and the false justifications for another war are being told - thanks to you, your husband and some other brave people who are speaking out.
When our government lies and the rights of all people are not respected, we end up with prisoners being tortured in black sites, humanitarian disasters like the Iraq wars and occupation, and the safety and self determination of millions of people undermined…. and the damage done to others comes back to us in the form of blowback. Even if we don’t know why - our lives are put in danger rather than protected.
What can we do to change this? From your perspective as a former insider… when you step back and look at the big picture… can you see alternatives? Can we create a national security infrastructure that is responsible and responsive to us, the citizens?
Valerie, just wanted to say thank you for your service to our country. Wishing you, Joe and your family happiness.
Hi Valerie and Joe!
I see that everyone else has already asked the questions I wanted to ask, so I’m just going to say thank you to both of you, for everything, and especially for taking time to be here.
(And I’ve put your book on my Christmas list, let’s hope Santa is listening!)
Valerie Plame Wilson @ 63
Yes, I thought Matt Lauer’s questions on the Today Show were apt. A little bit unusual for him…*g* And I thought you handled yourself with verve.
I hope you have fun with your book tour! And what a kickoff it’s been. Congratulations again.
Dear Ms. Wilson, it is an honor to be here with you today. You are a hero, and what happened to you at the hands of the Bush administration should shake every American to their core.
I have a lot of questions, but mostly, perhaps it’s time to make a statement. I watched the press conference you and Ambassador Wilson had when you announced the filing of the civil suit. Every woman watching that day had to fall just a little in love with your husband, because he makes it clear that he adores you, everyone else should treat you with courtesy and respect, and he will do whatever he has to do to defend you and your family.
He’s the greatest, and so are you. Thank you so much for your service on behalf of all of us.
-S
Hi Valerie
My local bookstore had your book out last night (yea me) and I got started. At first ALL the redacted pages were confusing, but they had such an impact when I realized why you had left them in. They went beyond cautious.
I loved the part where you are in XXXX sitting at a sidwalk cafe trying to blend in while waiting for XXXX . It all paints a picture with out the names.
I wish you luck with this great book.
Colin Powell knew that Cheney, Libby and the neocons were attempting to dupe him. Powell threw out a 50 plus page memo that Libby thurst upon him for his speech, knowing that its information was false and/or unreliable. Under these circumstances, Powell failed to be properly circumspect about intelligence or self-protective. Instead, he had joined the bandwagon. I wrote a recent piece on Powell here: http://www.salon.com/opinion/b.....aq_powell/
It originally appeared they wanted do a bait and switch ex post facto, using a dual claim of continued presence as:
1)We broke Iraq, we’ve got to fix it…
coupled with…
2)Iran was the bad guy, not Iraq.
CHeney was not patient to do so, and used political expediency to gut the flip.
Speaking of flips, what do you think of Putin agreeing to discuss possible Syrian missile sales?
The Russian and CHinese look to be in better shape than are we in the MidEast.
Welcome, Valerie, and thank you and Joe for all you have done–and are doing–in public service to all of us. And excellent role modeling for the next generations, who will bear the weight of cleaning up this mess.
My questions duplicate others already asked, so just Welcome! Have fun on your book tour…and when you get back to Santa Fe, enjoy that beautiful place as much as this tourista has.
Joe: “This story is not, and has never been, about Valerie or me.”
But it is about you both as representatives for us and for the voice we don’t feel we have. You gave us a sense that someone was the grownup in the sandbox and that what we were doing was important. My heart breaks for both of you at the result, but I think you need to know and accept that you have been a source of inspiration and strength.
You can be humble about it if you like, but it’s the truth.