Yesterday, I spent some time on the phone with a number of Congressional aides and folks who are working on both SCHIP and FISA. I was told that the calls early on for SCHIP were making an impact, but that the calls and contacts -- both in Washington and outside the Beltway at local offices -- have dwindled. They knew how many calls their respective offices had gotten -- both in DC and outside it, they knew letters and postcard numbers, they knew that interest was high right after the veto, and they knew when the drop-off in contact happened. Amazing tracking over several offices, not just one, and a lot of awareness of public mood measured by who takes the time to make contact -- and who doesn't.
Yesterday, Spencer Ackerman did a process piece about the contacts that we've been pushing on FISA via the ACLU and others. What Spencer didn't know, because I wasn't contacted, was that I got the tip from Liz Rose at the ACLU, then contacted several Hill staffers for independent confirmation of her report. And that I also spoke with a print reporter about the issues involved....and discovered through various sources that a lot of the discussion on the telecom immunity issue is eminating from Kit Bond's office, among others on the GOP side, who are working hard to push that meme out into the media -- haven't yet ascertained whether it's an attempt to split the Dem caucus from grassroots support, or whether it is a wholesale attempt to sway Dems on the Senate Intel committee, but I'm working on it.
It seems like I have spent my entire week on the phone or checking e-mail. Because, and this is just me personally, but I never just slap something up on the blog without checking it out independently to be certain we aren't just laundering someone else's BS. (Unlike the folks who appear to have done just that for Mitch McConnell's office this week...)
One of the recurring topics yesterday, though, was that the drop-off in calls and contacts gives folks who are wavering an excuse to keep their vote as a no on SCHIP in particular. We cannot let that happen.
I asked a number of these Hill denizens what is most effective in terms of Congressional contact, and what I was told was this: all of the above. Any and all contact with the member of Congress and/or their staff is a good nudge. But more than one contact is even better. Consistent, steady contact is great. And personal contact is the best.
Please call the DC offices of your members of Congress. And then a local office or two. Sit down and write a letter and FAX it to them. Send a letter to the editor to your local newspaper -- and FAX that to your elected folks as well. Send a postcard to your members of Congress -- they don't have to pass through as much security and will actually get there. (You can buy pre-stamped ones at the post office, fill them out and pop them right back in the mail.) Better yet, go to a local Congressional office and speak with a staffer in person. If you can help with our Blue America PAC effort to pressure wavering Dems, so much the better -- we could use a donation to the Blue America PAC, or some phone calls, whatever works for you. We're already seeing results. Boo yah!
In this case, especially for SCHIP which is coming up for a veto override vote very soon, every contact counts. Because we are less than 15 votes away from overriding Bush's veto altogether -- and your call could get us that vote we need. A lot of local blogs are helping with the pressure across the country, let's give them a hand, shall we? Please don't delay -- call today. And then do more...
Here is a link to the House directory -- you can look up individual member numbers and information, both for DC offices and local ones here. You can call also the capitol switchboard toll free using these numbers that katymine found:
1 (800) 828 - 0498
1 (800) 459 - 1887
1 (800) 614 - 2803
1 (866) 340 - 9281
1 (866) 338 - 1015
1 (877) 851 - 6437
Bill Scher sent me a list of potential targets for calls on SCHIP, with a few tweaks from Howie thrown into the mix:
GOPers who voted NO
AL Robert Aderholt
AR John Boozman
CA Brian Bilbray
CA John Doolittle
CO Marilyn Musgrave
FL Gus Bilirakis
FL Ginny Brown-Waite
FL Tom Feeney
FL Rick Keller
IA Tom Latham
ID Bill Sali
IL Judy Biggert
IL Tim Johnson
IL Peter Roskam
IL Jerry Weller
LA Rodney Alexander
MD Roscoe Bartlett
MI Joseph Knollenberg
MI Thaddeus McCotter
MI Tim Walberg
MN Michele Bachmann
MO Sam Graves
MO Kenny Hulshoff
NC Robin Hayes
NJ Rodney Frelinghuysen
NJ Scott Garrett
NJ Jim Saxton
NV Dean Heller
NY Thomas Reynolds
NY Randy Kuhl
OH Steve Chabot
OR Greg Walden
PA John Peterson
TX Kay Granger
VA Thelma Drake
VA Randy Forbes
GOPers who didn't vote last time
CA Wally Herger
WY Barbara Cubin
Dems who voted NO
GA Jim Marshall
MS Gene Taylor
NC Bob Etheridge
NC Mike McIntrye
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Christy!
Morning, Christy!
Morning all…
RE-ELECT JIMMY CARTER AND AL GORE 2008. That is all.
Thanks Redd for all the info. You make being a useful pest so easy for us. Much appreciated.
but in my other life….
Dang! Back to moving heavy furniture, spackling, sanding, priming, painting, repainting…ooogh.
Miss you guys! But it’s lookin’ more marketable around here, heh.
And we were finally able to put the kitties’ favorite cushioned bird-watching post back together yestidie. Ahh. Life is good for them, anyway… spoiled rotten. ;->
Michele Bachmann (R-MN-06) Yikes!
Christy: Ed note: Michele…*g*
[Mod: Fixed, thank you]
Good Morning Christy!
hayduke @ 5
I listened to an interview with Jimmy Carter this morning (Thom Hartmann’s show from yesterday via podcast) and I was thinking, “I wish HE would run for president again.
As far as I’m concerned he’s the “greatest American” in more than a generation. While other past presidents retire from the public eye to seek their fortunes or shill for their wives, he has continuously worked for the public interest of his country and his world.
If anyone deserves to be added to Mount Rushmore, it would be Jimmy Carter.
OT: I can’t stop laughing. Glenn Greenwald quotes Bill O’Reilly as follows:
Good God!!!
Jimmy Carter IS the greatest living American. He didn’t retire to the golf course. He resisted the urge to strike Iran (b/c it was rigged) and that makes him a hero.
Google “SS Poet” if you want to find out how Bush Sr. and ROBERT GATES sabotaged his reelection plans.
SufiLizard @ 9
he’s simply a good person. good heart, good soul. can’t really say that of any of the recent Republican Presidents
when talking about the fisa bill, please say very plainly, if these companies have stolen our information, have stolen intelectual property, you don’t want them given immunity.
they cannot get “retroactive immunity” because that entitles them to keep the property they have stolen
it also incourages any company to steal at the beck and call of an administration
wigwam @ 10
707, priceless!
Anyone know if using fake addresses to get around email web forms is illegal? I want to email out-of-state reps and senators but get stopped by their state/district address checks. Seems like we should be able to email anyone in Congress.
JackHinJersey @ 15
use sender@example.com
see: http://example.com/
perris @ 13
I like to say that they have intercepted and replicated our communications.
SufiLizard @ 9
Yeah. Of course, if he’d been assasinated, the elephants would have stampeded over each other to co-opt the podium at his cannonization.
But, he’s turned out to be a living, breathing, dirt-under-his-nails real person, who not only watches cable news, but who reads, too!
Lincoln and Grant certainly grew in stature over time, in spite of their shortcomings. I’m not at all surprised that Carter is surpassing everyone with his humanitarian and pro-democracy work.
How about a Mt. Carter?
Thanks for banging on the phone CHS!
wigwam @ 17
Not mention they, in all likely hood, got large contracts to do it!
“The moral test of any government is how it treats those in the dawn of life, the children; those in the dusk of life, the elderly; and those in the shadow of life, the disadvantaged.”
–Hubert H. Humphrey, late VPOTUS, and Senator, D-MN.
(Quoted in my critter Keith Ellison’s snail mail letter to me–that I posted at FDL yesterday.)
Keith Ellison, D-MN-05 voted for SCHIP and will vote to override Chimpy’s veto.
Elliott @ 12
He’s also tremendously smart. I think frankly if you added up the IQs of Reagan (even while young), Bush 1 and Bush 2 you still would not come up with a number that would be as high as Carter’s brain power.
wigwam @ 17
well that’s what they have done but it doesn’t attach the importance
it is stealing, they have gathered information that will harm us personally, that will harm us professionally
they can gather sources, prices, contacts, and they have
it is stealing and that’s something even republicans can’t make believe “is okay”
they can make beleive “violating our privacy” is ok, because “if we haven’t done anyhting wrong there is nothing to worry about”
but they can’t make believe stealing is “okay”
we have to frame the discussion in the fasion that cannot be denied by any ideology
“stealing” does the trick
Excellent, Christy. Will do.
JackHinJersey @ 15
Probably. I for one won’t do it.
SufiLizard @ 9
Agreed! Amen! He was my hero then and now!
Biodun @ 21
That is a very good letter.
You rock, Christy.
That is all. :-)
thanks for the reminder to make those phone calls… i’ll start again in just as soon as i make myself another cup of coffee.
and if anyone is interested in the Holt FISA bill (this is the one that the ACLU likes - no telco immunity and no basket warrents) i got a copy of it from his office (the text is not yet posted on thomas, or even last i checked on holt’s website). and also some info on the 4 amendment sHolt was able to make (in wednesday’s closed intelligence markup hearing) to the “restore act” (the house fisa bill with no immunity but with basket warrents).
all Holt FISA info - here. enjoy.
Biodun @ 25
I’ve never heard that one before. Maybe if it was in-conjunction with phishing or spamming but the nefarious intent would be the illegality. That said IANAL!
Christy (good morning!) this is exactly why FDL is a trusted news source in my house.
I recently went to what appeared to be a progressive website yesterday. The angles and conclusions were of the extra strength tinfoil variety. I couldn’t understand how they arrived there except to be mad as hell. Period. Fortunately, posters here are mad as hell AND productive and reasonable.
Biodun @ 25
Agreed, but I have been tempted out of paranoia.
do-si-do @ 31
FDL is focused and powerful, a laser beam of truth.
Kit Bond . . . sigh . . . Why am I not surprised he’s in the middle of the telecom immunity deal? He’s definitely one of the downsides of my moving from CA to Missouri.
Tried calling yesterday and couldn’t get through, so I sent an email. No reply yet.
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The ‘08 election will be a replay of “It’s the economy stupid”. The Dems need to keep pushing SCHIP down Bush’s and the Thugs throat.
IMO Carter was seriously wronged for the result of Operation Desert Eagle. At the time the Delta Force/special operation concept was new and virtually untried. If it had worked, he would have been reelected. As it was, the Reaganites succeeded in making him look like a chump.
Helpless Dancer @ 36
I never understood why that was held against him. Not attempting a rescue otoh
Just as a personal question — do you guys find these types of posts helpful in terms of targeting information to the people who need to hear from you? Am always trying to make this more effective (hence my questions to the staffer folks on which means of contact is best, etc.) — and am wondering what is best for you guys in terms of contact information as well.
Any thoughts on this are much appreciated.
Elliott @ 37
Not that the Reaganites stopped there. Just to insure that Carter was screwed, they negotiated with the enemy to ensure that the captives would not be released before the election.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 38
Well, I call the congressman or senators before I jump in to the discussion. So, yes!
Elliott @ 37
Iirc, something like this. Democrats didn’t give the defense department all the money in the world, so maintenance of the helicopters suffered, and that’s why they crashed and failed. So they blamed Carter.
Ummm. . .I don’t think it was mainly foreign policy that ruined Carter. He was a champion of middle east and made plenty of progress at Camp David, IIRC.
But what about the inflation? What about the unemployment? What about the oil crisis and it’s impact on US economy?
That said, I’d take Carter over Bush in a heartbeat.
Senator Kennedy in surgery
Christy Hardin Smith @ 38
I find your posts like these very helpful from a topical and informative point of view. I don’t have a phone so I don’t call. I do e-mail sparingly to Specter and English but not every time you post.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 38
I sure do!
Helps direct and coordinate our efforts so we can be effective.
Re: Al Gore and Nobel Peace Prize:
This Nobel Peace Prize basically recognizes that climate change (what used to be called global warming) is a worldwide security risk: that is, is a threat to world peace.
As for whether this prize would nudge Gore to run for presidency or even whether if he runs he can win (he might have reinvented himself, but he also has several negatives that will be dredged up in the campaign) or whether he will even run at all: These are questions I leave to MSM journalists, pundits, pollsters, and…well, people who indulge in speculation in general, whether as professionals or amateurs.
Helpless Dancer @ 39
Hell, they negotiated with the “enemy” to assure the captives were not released while Carter was still the President.
dakine01 @ 47
Which made for a great boost to Reagan’s Presidency.
Did it lead to the Iran part of Iran/Contra?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 38
Absolutely. I know I need it. But I also know that some FDLers routinely call senators and critters every day about issues of the day. They’ve built it into their daily routine. I confess that I haven’t. I have too many things to keep track of as it is.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 38
Oh my yes. Please continue. If something is made very easy for me I am much more likely to take that next tiny step which gets the work done. Teamwork!
yellowsnapdragon @ 42
And the oil crisis wasn’t foreign policy? It was OPEC taking a whack at an administration that they felt wasn’t 100 percent in their corner.
egregious @ 43
Glad he caught it!
dakine01 @ 47
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis
“Various allegations have been made over the years. Some believe Carter prolonged the hostage crisis because it helped him beat Ted Kennedy in the primaries.
The crisis made the president seem more presidential.[33] Another theory concerns a purported deal between high-level Reagan campaign operatives (such as campaign manager and future CIA Director William J. Casey) and representatives of the Iranian government to delay the release of the hostages until after the 1980 U.S. elections.
Although United States Senate and House of Representatives investigations in the 1990s declared the allegations to be unfounded, the conspiracy’s existence or lack thereof remains a subject of unsupported conjecture. The exact nature of the allegations lies in a potential violation of the International Commerce Acts of 1798, which prohibit any private citizen or party from negotiating with a foreign power in matters of national policy or military action.
It is alleged by political opponents that the Reagan campaign, or one of Reagan’s election campaign staffers, communicated with the Iranian government and asked them to extend the hostage crisis long enough to ensure that he won the 1980 elections. The main cause for suspicion was the seeming coincidence of his inauguration and the hostages’ release six minutes after Reagan was sworn into office on January 20, 1981, as well as the Reagan administration’s later decision to provide arms to the anti-U.S. Iranian government, allegedly in return not for freeing the hostages, but for delaying their release.”
tw3k @ 52
True - but this is very scary. My dad had to have this and ended up having a couple of TIAs from it. So, Sen. Kennedy is not out of the woods yet - next 72 hours will tell the tale.
yellowsnapdragon @ 42
I agree, although the hostage crisis was very important.
I think Jimmy Carter was one of the finest men to occupy the Presidency. I voted for him both times. However, he was not the most effective President.
What might be constructive for FDL pups to consider regarding current circumstances is the Jimmy Carter was considered the most conservative Democrat to occupy the White House in the 20th Century. That’s what led Ted Kennedy to try to win the nomination over a sitting Democratic President. The party split never really healed, and played a part in Reagan’s victory over Carter.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 38
They’re pretty useful. One thing I would try to include is fax info, if possible, including ways to send faxes on line.
Also remember that not everyone reading FDL can hear, so these alternate ways of contacting politicians (email/fax) are important too. (Something I wish the politicians themselves would realize — that sometimes there’s a real reason a phone call isn’t done.)
yellowsnapdragon @ 42
The following did in Carter: the Iran hostage crisis; when he said “Americans suffer from malaise”; and that photo of him looking scared in a canoe when the rabbit unexpectedly jumped out of the water at him.
I don’t think his statement “I sometimes have lust in my heart” did him in.
yellowsnapdragon @ 42
I had forgotten about that..the interest rate on my first home mortgage was 16%. Yikes
Elliott @ 48
Well, it most likely facilitated the initial approaches.
Elliott @ 48
I believe it did. There had to be a quid pro quo in the deal.
Gore/Whitehouse … Gore/Whitehouse … oh, sorry, still muttering to myself from two threads ago.
dakine01 @ 59
which led to bin laden, al-qaeda and 9/11
Biodun @ 57
Especially since that statement (and interview) took place prior to his first nomination and election in ‘76.
btw, all — the calls on the FISA bill to the Senate Intel committee members are also important. Information for that can be found here, including names and numbers.
And peanutbutter — point well taken on FAX numbers. Sometimes I’m putting these posts together really on the fly as news comes up, but I’ll try and put FAX numbers on as frequently as I can. Good suggestion!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 64
I have them up on my facebook page, too, until the override vote for SCHIPs
Helpless Dancer @ 51
I mean the impact of the the oil crisis on the US economy. Remember odd/even license plate days for filling up? Anyway, it wasn’t a uniquely American problem. . . it started the 3rd world debt crisis.
The Iran hostage crisis (and the failed rescue attempt, etc.) certainly was the straw that broke the camel’s back. But the economic situation at home was dire, with no remedy in sight.
Yes, Carter had issues with OPEC. But who wouldn’t have problems with arab nations when making so much progress with Egypt and Isreal?
According to Josh, TrabecaGate is about to blow open. Hello Rudy! How you doin’?
behindthefall @ 61
Gore/Webb
But I do adore Whitehouse.
Toby Wollin @ 54
What is a TIA?
perris @ 23
Good point. And it has the added irony that right-wingers are continually preaching that property rights are sacrosanct.
yellowsnapdragon @ 66
I’m a little confused (or, I’ve got some major memory loss going here) - my memory of the oil crisis with the odd/even thing was 1973. Am I wrong?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 64
Feingold has a form: Write Your Representative: Protect Our Rights!
behindthefall @ 61
Gore/Dean, Gore/Dean, Gore/Dean, well, I like the other guys, but I love the idea of a Gore do-over.
I’m not sure myself. I would have been 4 years old in 1973, so I probably wouldn’t remember odd/even license plates at that age, and I clearly remember gas rationing.
tw3k @ 69
Transient Ischemic Attack
Sometimes these are called “mini strokes” - usually whatever symptoms (paralysis of one certain place, numbness, etc.) doesn’t last very long. They used to be considered not a big deal (when my Dad had them). Now, however, they are telling people that if you have any symptoms, get to the ER immediately so that you can get treated. Having a TIA is now considered the “red flag” for “the big one”(stroke) later.
A lot of people who have one and are not treated for it that day end up having a major event within three months. These are not “mini strokes” - these are real honest-to-gosh strokes but with transient effects - don’t let anyone try to fool you on this. My mom had a series of these and ended up with multiple infarct dementia.
Sorry for the public service announcement, christy.
egregious @ 68
I remember whenever someone would ask the greatest tennis doubles team everyone would say;
“maccnroe and anyone else”
same thing here, gore/anyone
though my favorite would be feingold, I’d also love edwards, webb, whitehous
yellowsnapdragon @ 74
Thought it was summer of ‘74.
egregious @ 77
I just remember trudging off to school in the dark
egregious @ 77
Heh - Egregious - so I’m not so far off, eh?
yellowsnapdragon @ 66
Consider me admonished. At the time I was in the Army and was somewhat insulated from the nation’s problems. OTOH, it was the time that I discovered that the military leadership despised Democrats, no matter what their service record was. Carter was a boomer skipper, which says a great deal about his intelligence and stability.
Listen, gang:
Not to rain on your parade: Gore won’t run (at least not as long is Hillary is in there). Anyone wanna bet?
yellowsnapdragon @ 74
That’s how my mom taught us what odd and even numbers were. We were 6 and 7.
OPEC made its move in ‘73 but it took a few months for the shortages to develop.
Toby Wollin @ 75
:( My step father had a few of those. He lost almost his whole left side and was able to regain enough back to play piano again before alzheimer’s set in.
I hope Kennedy well.
1976 was the height of the oil crisis, embargo, the cut in OPEC oil production, and so on. Then all that bled into the first few years of the Reagan administration.
Wiki says that odd/even rationing was under Carter, but that there was also a shortage in 1973.
yellowsnapdragon @ 85
The saying goes if you can remember the sixty’s you weren’t there. Does it