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I understand the true volume levels didn't make it on TV, but during the Yankee game on Monday night Rudy Giuliani was resoundingly booed by New Yorkers:
For years, George Steinbrenner and right wing nutcases running the New York Yankees have subtly and overtly attempted to turn a nonpolitical sporting event such as watching a baseball game at Yankees stadium into a 1930s style German propaganda event to promote right wing politicians, right wing views on religion, and right wing views on Iraq. It's no longer take me out to the ballgame and as a Yankee fan, I find it disgusting.
The most frequent use of mixing politics and baseball at Yankee stadium is Steinbrenner's promotion of right wing extremist Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani gets a front row, unimpeded view of Yankee games because these seats are given to him by Steinbrenner. Then Yankee stadium officials and the networks try to plaster Rudy Giuliani's face all over the big screen and the television. This amounts to millions of dollars of free advertising, something quite beneficial when you are running for President.
But Steinbrenner overplayed his hand. Giuliani got roundly booed at Yankee Stadium and this will play out on the campaign trail.
I was there and Giuliani was booed not once but twice, the second time during God Bless America, which he did not appear to know the words to.
It doesn't look like his "Hero of 9/11" crap is selling too well to hard core New Yorkers, does it?
Update: Olbermann:
During the 7th inning stretch, as the tenor Ronan Tynan sang “God Bless America” was sang he was shown on the video screen and there was no mistaking what happened next. He was briefly but lustily booed. No cheers or applause at all. Kind of uncouth, during “God Bless America,” but perhaps very telling.
(h/t biodun)
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Jane!
The fact that I would agree with a yankee supporter is horrifying
Go Sox!
Yep:
I saw that on teevee. He was booed twice. The first booing was mixed in with applause. The second was booing outright. We’ve known for some time that most (native) New Yorkers (like me) don’t like Rudy.
And Keith made quite a bit of it on Countdown last night. (Transcript not up yet.)
nomolos @ 2
The fact that I would agree with a yankee supporter is horrifying
evidently, on this issue, I agree with a whole bunch of Yankee supporters.
S’okay - I’ll just walk it off.
(((((((JANE)))))) you go girl!
Hey Jane:
I like the pic! So you’re a Yankees fan…
Biodun @ 7
Not really, I just go to games.
Hi,Jane and everyone,
Jane, I hope you are doing well, sending you light and power.
Rudy’s standing in the polls totally mystifies me as does the nonsense about Thompson. The notion of either of them actually becoming the gooper choice is beyond imagining.
Rudy deserves daily booing; maybe we could get his cell number?
Looking good Jane…except for that hat of course. What size do you wear?? I’ll send you a Bosox hat instead and pretend I never saw that picture. I converted 15 years ago and feel much better!! :)
Yeah, but Rudy’s rendition of Horst-Wessel brings down the house…
of justice.
drinksforall @ 10
Do they have sizes? Red is a good color for me.
*g*
jayt @ 5
evidently, on this issue, I agree with a whole bunch of Yankee supporters.
S’okay - I’ll just walk it off.
Yeah, this is one of those issues where Yankees haters can be in full agreement with the Yankee lovers.
(Confirmed Yankee hater since 1961).
The baseball playoffs have been great timing with my recovery from surgery. It was great to hear your comment while watching the game the other night.
The Yankees pissed me off in 2001 when our great Diamondbacks were playing so well and pretty much implied that they need to throw the game to the Yankees because they deserve to win because they are “America’s team” BUT…. so what did that make our AZ team then?
To those with the tin foil hat syndrome… the reason that the boo’s did not make it on the air is because the crowd mike either was NOT on or not in the area that of the stadium. TeeVee crews really DO NOT have a political agenda, they are just doing their job AND they try to be as apolitical as possible.
Sorry, OT again……
I don’t know if this had been posted here, but this is some of the ‘official news real time’ reporting part of that exercise.
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Jane Hamsher @ 8
I’m guessing from the pic that you were not seated in the Steinbrenner box.
Here in NYC we fondly remember when he was running around the city trying to close down art exhibits he didn’t like. Boo indeed.
Jane Hamsher @ 12
Any color would look good on you!!!
katymine @ 14
NOt to swerve too far OT (and being from MA, I’m a sox fan), but I’ve been thinking about you katymine, and wishing you health. Am recovering from sudden surgery of my own and can’t be here much for awhile, but think of everyone daily.
I thought this was an adult blog..Jane is just a kid!!!
sneaking a peak from work and can’t do the research now. TPM or the Muck wrote up the Village Voice article showing Rudy’s abuses of the privileges accorded him by the Yankees. They also compared the hours spent at the Stadium to those at ground Zero and I believe the baseball hours were double those at Zero, which were ceremonial for the most part.
If anyone could provide link, I’d be grateful.
Rudi’s star is on the same trajectory as the Yankees and the going going gone is not a homer run. He is about to be torre-fied (Punaise will tell you that’s a French pun on the word for roasted, as in roasting coffee.)
It was my understanding that George Steinbrenner is suffering from Alzheimer’s.
Ergo, I found his comments about Joe Torre to be rather odd…
Maybe it was George Costanza that fueled that
statement?
In any case, according to Agent Boros, A-rod
will A-missing next year.
(((((zennurse)))))
(((((katymine)))))
Jane Hamsher @ 8
How many stadiums have you been to?
As someone who works only a few blocks from Ground Zero, and thus had to breathe the acrid fumes for months after being assured that it was “safe,” I tired of St. Rudy of 9/11 very quickly. I never voted for Rudy, but in the immediate aftermath of the attacks I had been impressed by his steady, reassuring tone during his press conferences — especially since President Bush was essentially missing in action. Then came Rudy’s suggestion that his term as Mayor (which was set to end on December 31, 2001) be extended for some indefinite time so that he could continue to lead us in our time of crisis. That’s when I remembered all the reasons why I had hated him on September 10.
New Yorkers are at a loss to understand why the myth of St. Rudy of 9/11 continues to play well in other parts of the country. They seem to be unconcerned about the failure to rectify known defects in the first responders’ communications systems; his disregard of his advisors’ pleas to locate his Emergency Command Center some place other than at the site of New York’s one proven terrorist target; and his consistent race-baiting and defense of police brutality against blacks. Not to mention his smug, bullying moralizing, coupled with his public announcement that he was dumping his wife for another woman without first informing said dumped wife privately. Oh, and did I mention BERNARD KERIK? Chauffeur, police chief, business partner, Iraq security advisor, Homeland Security Secretary nominee, user of rescue workers’ rest space as a love shack, acceptor of bribes. Bernard Kerik was someone Rudy promoted as a frakkin’ national security expert.
And now Rudy, who ran on both the Republican and Liberal Party lines for mayor, has now transformed himself into a tax-cutting believer of small government that isn’t afraid to threaten nuclear war, a pro-choice appointer of “strict constructionist” judges to the Supreme Court, and gun control advocate who thinks that after 9/11 we should all be packing heat.
But if you want to know what I REALLY think of Rudy, well, I’m not sure the administrators would let me use such language….
zennurse @ 19
Thinking of both of you and hope you are doing well.
“They weren’t booing they were shouting JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDY!”
- Judith Giuliani
T- @ 3
agree. If Jane wants to attend one of our games, there are Bluestaters who can help. Not right away, but in our next season.
Bay State Librul @ 22
A-rod’s wife is pregnant and has been quoted as saying she would like to go home..where is that you inquire? Lowell, Ma. !!
And Rudy (with Romney) kept going after Hillary late afternoon yesterday. I guess most Repugs are expecting a NY “subway series” in ‘08 (the latter to get back on topic)…*g*
Really do not want to be OT but if you missed late night when I gave my pathology report last night.
It was Renal Cell CA but encapsulated in the kidney and all nodes negative - Surgeon said the surgery “cured me”. All systems working and just the fun recovery from surgery.
Now… lets get back to baseball and Giuliani being boo’ed….
drinksforall @ 18
Jane, they have every conceivable size and have recently added pink, if that works for you. We have the most amazing and random selection ofRed Sox stuff available, even in our convenience stores.
BlueStateRedHead @ 21
I believe the article you refer to was by Wayne Barrett in the Village Voice. Wish I knew how to find it for you.
I’ll be curious to see how NY’ers dislike of Giuliani actually plays out in Middle America. Might be an asset for him. For all the post-9/11 embrace of NYC, I suspect most Americans still think of us as basically a foreign country. If only…
drinksforall @ 29
News flash: Lowell Spinners sign A-Rod to
a seven year deal… According to confidential sources, he will be rooming with Manny…
and voting for Nikki Tsongas
Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 5
It may be so in New York:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4n7uJnKGTGg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vKHLok-RVNw
And for those who weren’t there, Chris Matthews made sure he told everyone he could reach from his TV platform. He brought it up several times on his show, asking several pundits what they make of the fact that Rudy got booed at Yankee Stadium. Twice!
And the games really are swimming in right-wing garbage, especially when aired on the YES network:
1. Hummer ads in nearly every commercial break.
2. Cutting over to Neil Cavuto (!!) for completely pointless “Fox Means Business” segments.
3. Still playing that creepy-sounding 1940’s recording of “God Bless America” instead of “Take Me Out to the Ballgame.” The national anthem before a game is patriotic. Doing this in the middle of each game is not.
I can’t stop liking the Yankees, but thanks to YES, I’ve found myself watching the games less and less these past few years.
(((((((Jane!)))))))
Now that “Splash of Cold Water to the Face” Thompson (that Nixon zing was priceless - totally unravelled the poor guy on the afternoon of his debate debut) isn’t a threat, it seems almost certain Guiliani will be the Nominee, despite all of his infedlity and grandstanding.
The Big Fundies won’t get behind him, no way.
The Goopers have Zero chance of winning the Presidency in ‘08.
Let the Republican defections from The Agenda begin…
“Then came Rudy’s suggestion that his term as Mayor (which was set to end on December 31, 2001) be extended for some indefinite time so that he could continue to lead us in our time of crisis.”
Yikes. This should immediately disqualify him from running for further office.
Ann in AZ @ 37
When Keith O interviewed Tweety last night, he acted like a jerk!
One of the positive things about polls around Sept 10 was that they showed NYers were tired of Rudy & happy to let him go. But I guess 9/11 made Rudy! magically delicious to Tweety & his ilk.
Katymine! Yay!
How Giuliani spread his mystic:
I was working with a client in Green Bay, WI in 2003-2004 and on one trip the client had a single page write up about Giuliani “America’s Mayor” on the back of every bathroom stall. As a west coaster, I really do not have much connection to Giuliani but ever since then I connect bathrooms with Giuliani, way before Larry Craig.
From Countdown last night:
Bay State Librul @ 39
Well, for Tweety, acting like a jerk is normal, so he was just being himself.
At least last week when he was breaking his arm patting himself on the back for 10 years of Hardball, he was self aware enough to know one of his big problems is getting his man-crush on. He can’t control it but he at least recognizes it’s inappropriate.
katymine!!! WooHOO!
that’s GREAT news!
btw was the tumor bigger than 3 cm?
BlueStateRedHead @ 21
Here you go:
http://www.villagevoice.com/ne.....566,2.html
http://www.villagevoice.com/ne.....646,2.html
bluejeansntshirt @ 33
Does this help?
http://www.infowars.com/articl.....d_zero.htm
Elliott @ 47
Yep, as big as my fist….
katymine @ 14
If they can show a big screen visual of boody all across the stadium and nation, I don’t see why they can’t include the audio that accompanies it.
And if you don’t think even the tv techs of faux noise have a political agenda, you . have . not . been . paying . attention.
I am Red Sox nation but even I like to hear Ronan Tinan sing America the Beautiful (when it does not give me flashbacks to Boone) - but really hate it when the politic it up.
I just want to hear the song and enjoy the game. I don’t want to see Ben Affleck and I sure as hell don’t want to see Rudy or any other Pol.
How about giving the guy dying of the WTC in his lungs that found the cross at the WTC a front row ticket and show him? I bet he know the words, I bet he sings his heart out with dying lungs, and I bet he and everyone else has a tear in their eye.
What ever happened to us anyway…
katymine @ 50
Holy Guacamole!!!
good riddance, eh?
Praise the Lord and pass the oxycontin!
Waccamaw @ 51
Hmmm, particularly during “God Bless America,” they’re going to have crowd noises down and the sound of the singer up.
Now if it were just Fox News, I think you’d have a point…
The only station that seemed to carry Bush’s whole speech at 11:00am this morning was Fox and I missed it.
Is Bush still our President?
Elliott @ 54
thumbs up on that one!!
native new Yorkers like myself *know* guiliani is a scumbag. It’s something that it took a little bit for the everyone to learn. He is definitely not someone who grows on you.
Just recall his attempt to extend his mayoralty post 9/11 despite term limits. It brought everyone here right back to their 9/10 clear eyed view of the guy.
Rudy with Bush/Cheney powers would truly be frightening.
And yes, despite all the 9/11 rah rah, I think NYers disdain for Rudy may well play well elsewhere.
Were it not for 9-11, Rudy would be remembered as an ineffectual priss in New York.
The rest of the country wouldn’t remember him at all.
Come to think of it, New York still remembers him as an ineffectual priss, but the rest of the country needs some reminding of all his failures.
America the Beautiful would be fine, but at Yankee Stadium it’s always God Bless America, which I despise with a passion. The embodiment of American Exceptionalism.
Fenway Park: Sweet Caroline
Yankee Stadium: God Bless America
See the difference?
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I was a yankee fan a kid, but lost interest in spectator sports as an adult. Whenever I took a peak at sports it turned me right off. Huge salaries, outrageous infusion of capitalism and marketing into america’s favorite pastime - baseball.
The I began to think, why are teams private enterprises own by high net worth individuals… who get tons of freebees from the cities and regions where they are located. They SELL broadcast rights to media, and media now charges us to see them.
They get free stadiums, all sorts of perks.
I don’t like professional spectator team sports. The NFL is about as disgusting as it can get.
I went to a few games at Yankee Stadium around the turn of the millennium and it was worse than I had expected. UIt was exciting to be in the stadium, but I felt surrounded by bots who couldn’t think about what had been done to their sport. They were being milked of their money by creeps like Steinbrunner.
I won’t go anymore. I won’t watch sports on teevee. I won’t follow the big names. I hardly know any of them and what they are good at. I am proud of my ignorance about professional sports. I don’t even know the names of the teams.
The NBA is equally disgusting as is the NHL.
Professional sports is America is what you get with American capitalism. And it’s eletist.
Anything that Guiliani likes, has got to be corrupt.
Base ball.. going going gone.
OT:
Suprised that neither Jon S or Colbert picked up the “no pin” with the Sienfield “Why don’t you where the ribbon!” “Where is your ribbon!” AIDS ribbon bit.
drinksforall @ 10
send her a PawSox hat
It’s a marvelous conversation piece
Waccamaw @ 51
My boyfriend has worked in the TeeVee industry for over 30 years, currently working for ESPN doing Monday Night Football and NBA. He has worked for pretty much all of the networks and TeeVee productions. These guys are professionals and really usually are clueless to the political winds as they work 10 to 20 hr days to provide quality TeeVee.
Boyfriend was at the first NOLA game at the dome last year and the accusations of “faked sounds”. The audio guy was really insulted that anyone would imply that they would ruin their show. You can slam the guys who run the corporations but do not imply that those guys who really work hard to put quality sports productions on the air are in the wingnuts pockets.
For 12 years I have hung out out back of some stadium near the dumpsters to have some time with my guy watching these guys haul tons of cable, make sure that feeds are uplinked and that video and audio is prime quality. Never once have I heard ANYONE have an agenda when doing a sports production other than getting the show ON the air.
Go katymine
SanderO @ 61
I can understand your angst, but every evening I curl up and watch Jerry Remy and Don Orsillo
broadcast the Soxs. Honest, after listening to
Bush and his wretched minions, they gave me
pleasure, and have probably saved me years of
therapy…
Jane @ 9:00 -
Point well taken………..way too many examples of the cr*p faux noise has pulled with labeling wayward “r’s” as “D’s” and all their other egregious behavior roiling around in my head……held firmly in place by the many layers of tin foil surrounding same. *g*
SanderO at 61, Yeah me too, big time.
And (((((katymine))))) and (((((zennurse)))))
Those are hugs, right?
Katymine,
fine that they are professionals as well they should be. But how would they feel about broadcasting a right wing rally from a sports stadium?
We’re not quite there yet, but sports are one mechanism to distract the people from what’s going on… and extract some of their hard earned money.
We are a nation of non thinking, isolated idiots and we can thank our love of sports for some of that.
Do you deny this?
redx @ 52
Was it really “America the Beautiful”? If so, it’s an improvement on that goddamned, insipid “God Bless America” (a song sung by people who can’t remember the national anthem, such as Republican congressmen). It was another milepost on this country’s road to perdition when it replaced the beloved “Take Me Out to the Ballgame” after 9-11. And that Ronan Tinan is a disgrace to the Irish for singing it.
OT - Has anybody see this:
Dragonfly or Insect Spy? Scientists at Work on Robobugs.
Really creepy.
I used to love to listen to Red Barber and Mel Allen on my little transistor radio in bed as a kid.
We live in a different world.
It’s really a lot uglier and needs our attention.
When I need to escape… I go to ballet or opera or the arts.
Sports and fascism are too closely aligned.
((((( Jane Katymine Zennurse )))))
Please get some Louise Hay CDs … she offers some great techniques for regaining optimum health.
BigMitch is gonna have a conniption when he discovers that he missed the only ‘Baseball’ blog on FDL ! *g*
The dems should play the repukes in softball and settle it all.
JF @ 72
yeah, that really is too creepy.
and there are those of us who wonder why we’re paranoid?!
Petrocelli @ 74
For once I am not whining …. the final season was a life saver from the limited TeeVee lineup at the hospital…
SanderO @ 75
Nah, they’d only cheat.
katymine -
I bow to your first-hand experience with tv techs (as well as Jane’s explanation); I already knew you got a good one b/c you’ve described his loving care of you in time of need.
Very glad to hear of your good health news; {{{take care of yourself.}}}
SanderO @ 74
And give them yet another opportunity to work the Umpires.
SanderO @ 74
Or how about a spelling bee. When I read gooper comments I think I’m going dyslexic.
The nasties don’t play by the rules.
Winning is everything.
My typing is atrocious.
Sensible people try a reasoned approach, the right cares less. They only want their selfish needs met. Laws, rights don’t figure into their calculus.
The playing field of ideas is tilted way to the right.
We are slipping off at an increasing rate.
We may need to take a new tack.. or we will be SOL.
mack @ 59
and Shrub would have been a one term president
Nice pic Jane.
Next time you’re up for a game in NY, give me a shout - I’ll try and get you my box seats.
Helpless Dancer @ 80
The House Republicans regularly beat the Democrats in baseball.
Elliott @ 76
Easiest to assume they know everything about everybody, and just go ahead and do what you were going to do anyway. This works pretty well for travel to Russia as well.
Jane you look adorable in your ball cap.
egregious @ 86
good advice! else one would go mad
SanderO @ 75
The dems should play the repukes in softball and settle it all.
Coach Harry Reid only knows one sign:
Bunt.
hey alot of us are working class heroes who root for the yankees. my father passed the team on to me and he grew up in harlem during the depression and so all this talk about it being wall street’s team and all never made sense to me. on the other hand all the jesoids thanking the almighty and praising and so forth every time they score a touchdown, make a three pointer or pitch a shut out makes me want to puke.
the yankees are richer than the other teams but they are not the only member of the billionaires stable that swings bats.
BTW, Jane:
In your post, you might want to change America the Beautiful to God Bless America…*g*
Thanks for the hugs and your indulgence at my overly OT comment. My retina surgery is minimal compared to katy and jane and others with more serious causes. It is making life pretty limited as I have orders to be a couch potato for at leat 3 more weeks and no zennursing for the next 6. I can follow orders and lie around listening to Jane Austen on audible.com, cspan unless it makes me too anxious to sit still and am allowed to watch movies. I’m even considering calling the cable company, but am making that a daily exercise in personal procrastination and am trying to learn to knit without looking for a challenge. I have overstayed my reading allottment for today, but just needed to hear your voices and know you are there.
Katy, thanks for the update and good news.
Blessings to Jane and Christy (et al) for their devotion to truth, justice and the American Way as well as to all of us who cannot be without them for long.
See you guys tomorrow for my daily dose.
Keep up the good fight.
namaste
SanderO @ 75
Hockey or lacrosse would be better sports. Physical contact on hard surfaces permitted, with potential weapons!!!! For the love of sports and competition……
Further to me @ 91:
I see you’ve already done that. Thanks for the h/t!
SanderO @ 82
They throw dirt in the ump’s eyes and keep wanting to steal home!
I hate that.
dakine01 @ 46
And also that he is an interminable hero worshiper, and that he has always believed that the way to get ahead was drink a lot and brag. So now we know he’s quit drinking (or so he’s said many times) and he’s just now learning that there are other more effective ways to get ahead than bragging, so he’s kinda pitiful if you think about it. Also, he’s recently admitted that he was (and may still be) a Democrat. I didn’t know until recently that he had once run for office. (He lost) But he said at one point that his family is all republican except for himself. He worked for Carter and for Tip O’Neill, so I don’t think he can be all bad.
Oh, nice twinkle in the eye, Jane!
SanderO @ 75
I’d much prefer pistols at 30 paces!!
drinksforall @ 97
707!
What’s the weather like in the nosebleed seats?
Perhaps they were booing an obnoxious tradition that began at American ballparks in the early 1930s in an attempt by pols and their kingmakers to gin up a highly astute and appropriately recalcitrant populace for more war whilst (and at the same time) the government was very busily arming itself for same.
Almost forgot, this caught my (one) eye last night, pissing me right off. Returning troops lose out on education benefits because of returning one day early.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/.....-benefits/
You look great in the hat. The Yankees still stink.