Sidney Blumenthal, in his most recent Salon piece, points out something that needs to reverberate widely:
...Rove's merger of politics and policy was an effort to forge a total one-party state. While he is acclaimed as a political strategist, his true innovation was in governing. He sought to subordinate the entire federal government to his goal of creating a permanent Republican majority. Every department and agency has been subject to an intense and thorough politicization. Indeed, Rove's ambitious plan was tantamount to a proto-Sovietization. Even science has been suppressed in the name of the party line, recalling the Lysenko episode. Cheney and Rove acted as the pincers of the unitary executive. While Cheney sought to concentrate unaccountable power in the presidency, Rove brought down the anvil of politics on the professional career staff.
Rove's radicalization of government was early described by the first member of the administration to quit in disgust, John DiIulio, a University of Pennsylvania professor and the first director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. He discovered that "compassionate conservatism," Rove's slogan for Bush's 2000 campaign, was little more than a sham. "What you've got is everything -- and I mean everything -- being run by the political arm. It's the reign of the Mayberry Machiavellis," said DiIulio.
When you couple it with this find from Digby, it gets even more interesting:
This week, Rove and his staff will turn to their endgame. They will oversee a mobilization of political employees from Cabinet agencies, Capitol Hill and lobbying firms many of them skilled campaign veteran to more than a dozen battleground states. Many will act as "marshals," supervising the "72-hour plan" developed by Rove in 2001 with Ken Mehlman, the former White House political director who now heads the Republican National Committee...the success of the get-out-the-vote effort depends on putting a reliable army of volunteers into the field, and some worry about the sour mood among Republicans this year....
In the summer, they invited hundreds of political appointees from Cabinet agencies, along with other GOP activists and Hill staffers, to attend a pep rally in Washington. The event featured appeals to politically experienced federal appointees to volunteer for campaign work in battleground races in the final two weeks of the campaign. In a twist that resembled an Amway sales meeting more than a political strategy session, they offered those who signed up on the spot a chance to win an iPod and other prizes. As the political landscape shifted in September and October, Rove's office suggested new destinations for some of these volunteers, pointing them toward races that had become more critical.
But to senior-level political appointees, such conversations with the White House would not be anything new: Nearly all have had regular contact with Rove and his political deputies to a degree previous generations of appointees did not....By stopping short of explicitly calling on the Interior Department officials to take action, Rove stayed within the rules against exerting improper political influence.
Witness why it is that GSA Head Doan has spent so much time on the hot seat with Rep. Waxman's committee: she allowed herself to be used as Rove's surrogate in the political endgame. She and several other department heads who allowed their agencies to be similarly perverted by political considerations as their primary objective above all else -- including actual governance, as Joshua Green so ably detailed in the Atlantic Monthly piece that Mahablog linked up on Saturday.
But, even so, a lot of this repeated politicization conduct had gone unnoticed and unremarked, and certainly uninvestigated by the GOP Congress for years. Which meant that such pesky rules as the Hatch Act -- which requires that political appointees within the government not be pressured to use governmental assets for partisan political purposes -- went largely unenforced.
Until the 2006 elections changed the landscape.
But Rove failed to comprehend just how much the landscape would change, and thus he failed to change his tactics and kept right on going. To wit:
...In yesterday's letter, Waxman asked Rove who prepared the presentation and whether Rove or Jennings consulted with anyone about whether it might be in violation of the Hatch Act. Waxman also asked whether Rove or any members of his staff have given the same or similar PowerPoint presentations to political appointees at other government agencies.
The PowerPoint presentation was a focus of Waxman's hearing Wednesday into Doan's 10-month tenure and into allegations that she has acted inappropriately. Doan denied the allegations at the hearing....
White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said the presentation was not out of the ordinary.
"There is regular communication from the White House to political appointees throughout the administration," he said.
It was so commonplace for all of them, they didn't bother to ask themselves if it was the right thing to do. If hubris and slackassed attention to detail is what does Rove in, that will be far too fitting for a man who has made his life's work the dirty tricks deployed from the shadows with the skill of a spider. If a Hatch Act violation is what is easing Rove out the door, then he has trapped himself in a disaster of his own egotistical weaving. (Which puts him in some fine company in the Bush Administration, now doesn't it?)
Prior to 2006, there was no real trail of evidence to follow, because the bulk of the evidentiary information had been scuttled by any Congressional inquiry that came up predictably lacking under the rubber stamp Republican Congress. But when the Democrats gained control of Congress after the 2006 election, that landscape shifted abruptly -- as Reps. Henry Waxman and Jerry Nadler and Sens. Patrick Leahy and Sheldon Whitehouse got glimpses of some substantial political interference where it should never have been.
And they began to dig...bit by bit...until they got a toehold into the career folks in the various departments and the political appointees who had a modicum of scruples. And then the questions began to fly about this disgusting politicization among departments which, up until this Administration, had been held to a higher standard of actual enforcement of the law and the rules and regs.
There has never been perfection in the political landscape in terms of the intermixing of career and political employees among the administrative agencies. But there has never, ever been the degree of politicization that we see today. Never. Just look again for a moment at the chart that Sen. Whitehouse put together (YouTube here) just for the Department of Justice and multiply that out over the wide scope of agencies and departments. And then re-read Digby. And allow the scope of this craven, self-serving corruption to sink in for just a moment. All of it -- every last bit of it -- is Rove's abomination, or as Sidney calls it, "proto-Sovietization," wherein everything in government is subordinate to the top leadership's political marching orders. Welcome to Bushworld.
And how fitting an end point to a political career for a man whose greatest legacy at this point appears to be just how much disgust he's been able to raise, directed at himself among "friends" and foes alike: that he failed to see the law and its consequences because he was too obsessed with the math. Even as he tries to puff up his own legacy with the sycophantic press, his failures and corrupt gamesmanship are dragging down the GOP under their own heavy weight.
We will be years in the undoing of this failed Republican plan for governmental domination writ small-minded and petty. Whether or not Rove is ever held to account, legally or otherwise, it will still take years before we right the wrongs that he has inflicted on our nation's governmental institutions and the principles toward which they were supposed to aspire. And all I feel at the moment is a heaping helping of disgust for the selfish legacy of this man for whom no level was too low to sink to eke out a victory as he defined it -- for himself, but not for the rest of America.
(2008 Rove Powerpoint slide via Guns, Germs and Steeled.)
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Great post Christy. The next question is how can we make the Rove stench stick to every GOP member who supported or acquiesed to his corruption.
Good morning Christy. Great post, as usual. It will take a truth commission to cut the rot that Rove as wrought out of government.
It’s been disgusting to hear the wingnuts fawning over Rove for the past couple of days. It’s hard for me to fathom someone admiring such evil - but then, even Charles Manson had devoted followers.
I know someone’s already composed a list of Rove’s many failures since he’s been in office - anyone have a link?
christy,
you’re right: i doubt that rove will EVER be called to account, even as the msm ignores the utter gutting of government he presided over. to rid the government of this perversion of mission, from justice to the fda to the science agencies to the judiciary, could take the better part of a generation.
and i give no one the benefit of the doubt on this: everyone who signed on to the rove way knew exactly what they were getting into, the consolidation of one-party power at the expense of the american people. criminals, all of them.
Sadly, I’ve lost all hope that the news “that needs to reverberate widely” thru’ the MSM ever will. If it weren’t for the Lake and much of the net world, I’d still be one of the so-called “low information” consumers of the cr*p that passes for truth in the *real* world these days.
Quite a downturn in traffic between yesterday and today………just sayin’. *g*
Step one [EPU-ed last thread]. It starts with accountability and making everyone’s vote count so we build on Democratic majorities.
Dan Rather is reporting on the total lack of accountability and quality control in touch screen voting. My take: I want Democracy restored in my country.
Fits on a postcard…I’m just sayin’….
International tribunals is the answer for all of these war criminals. It’s our only hope to regain respect from the rest of the world. This is more important than what Rove has done to the political landscape of this country…even though that has its own place in the list of things to be undone.
NPR this morning did a piece by Brian Naylor that was nothing more than lipstick on a pig or more appropriately lipstick on a turd concerning Rove’s role as political advisor. I stopped contributing to NPR about 4 years ago because of the noticeable rightward leanings in it’s coverage. As Norquist said “starve the beast” it’s now our time to starve the beast of NPR.
morning all
blumenthal gets some of it right but gets the biggest thing wrong…and I believe if he read this from yours truly he would agree, he got this part wrong;
no
he wanted no such thing, he wanted a new party that had nothing to do with the republican party
the republicans were his panzies, his tool, he converted them to the fascist party he presided.
the republican party got duped into allowing these fascists to use their name, their reputation, their history, their influence and their constitutents
they wanted cheerleadeers, the did not want a party at all…sheep, cheerleaders, marionettes
rove and his fascists wanted to use the republican name but they didn’t want the party at all
The corporate news media is the key to how it all worked. What kind of corporate media deals must have been worked out by Rove?
I love how Sydney ended the piece with the press corps dancing behind MC Rove. Some very powerful strings are making these news puppets dance every day throughout every type of news media.
Facts are Liberal. Ask Nixon.
Christy, a question. or two. make that three. no, four. (the coffee’s still a-brewing.)
It seems from Loan’s continued presence that punishment for Hatch Act violations rests with the executive branch. Is that the case, or is it the case only for Cabinet members? And if the exec. branch violates the law, then who disciplines/punishes? How did Gore come to grief for his telephone calls? And what is the statue of limitations on these violations?
One of your best, Christy. I’ll just retire now.
the republicans have to realize what was done to their party and they have to reclaim it
that’s really the only way the “end game” as
blumenthal put it does not succeed
both parties have to find the fascists that were installed in our government and both parites have to join hands to weed them out
time to bridge the great devide that rove cuased
if we don’t bridge this devide, if we don’t work together with the real republicans, then rove’s strategy would have worked and his end game will succeed
Something tells me that Rove may actually be more dangerous now that he’s working even further behind the scenes. Best to keep our eyes on him, the man is a megalomaniac, and to think that he’s given up his plans just because he’s been under Congressional scrutiny for a few months would be foolish and naive.
I’m also thinking it might be best to hold off any trials for him until after January 2009, to prevent the possibility of pardon (if we still have an election in 2008, that is)
Aw, scarecrow — coming from you, that means a lot. Thanks. :) It was a long time in the writing — I had to wrestle this one into shape, and it took me several hours of wrangling to do it.
Let’s just say that coffee is my friend this morning. *g*
Scarecrow @ 14
you can’t, scarecrow. your posts are indispensable, too.
we have got a whole back 40 of work to do in the months ahead.
Bluetoe @ 10
Actually I have noticed that NPR has really sucked of late. AndWTF, why the hell did the NewsHour run a piece on Merv Griffin? If I’d wanted to watch E! I would have gotten the lobotomy.
KestrelBrighteyes @ 16
Agreed. Politics is in his blood. He will still be involved, somehow. Mayby not with Bush specifically, but with Republican politics, in general.
http://www.boston.com/news/nat....._strategy/
this is my first linking, hope it works.
The picture should show Rove with luggage and a figure in the background fiddling with more luggage at the wheel of Airforce One.
The captions should say “President Bush with Karl Rove after the announcement that the deputy chief of staff will leave the White House Aug. 31. “(Win McNamee/Getty Images)
Match the picture to the caption. Either the caption is wrong–perhaps a carryover from yesterday–or if it is right,with Rove gone, the president wear his shirt out of his pants and carries his own luggage…The consequence of being brain-less, I guess…
when the history of this time is written, it will step back in awe of the sheer vast undertaking that rove and cheney oversaw, and are still supervising: the total gutting of the vote, and of the judiciary, and of the justice department, and that’s just for starters.
the restoration of the overclass, and the permanent war. the triumph of the corporate state, and the subjugation of the many.
and the toughest truth we will have to swallow is that they will never, ever be held accountable.
BlueStateRedHead at 13 — You know, I’m not certain on the answers to all of that. Hatch Act issues don’t come up so often, actually, because most ethical folks know to steer well clear of them. So precedents are few and far between since its passage.
That’s how beyond the pale this conduct is from the Bush Administration.
Eric @ 19
Ah hell, even Howie at Down With Tyranny covered Merv’s death, although he provides some of the info that NPR and E! neither one will provide.
Morning All. Great post Christy.
Sort of OT - Looks like despite their recess, Leahy has scheduled a hearing for next Monday re: the warrentless wiretapping subpoenas. Link to the schedule is here.
Background info at Leahy’s website is here.
Do we know what they are going to try and accomplish on Monday? It is a vote on whether to hold the WH in contempt?
BlueStateRedHead @ 21
Calling All picture wizards: Glad you put the pix up, but I am curious about something, if any of you have time (and curiosity). There is another picture of Rove in that same tie that was taken yesterday showing him with Bush. There is something STRANGE about this tie. THe green color doesn’t go with the jacket and shirt. I think there are some critters on the tie, but I don’t have time to put it under my magnifying glass. Any one want to check it out and let us know what is on that tie? In other words, what is he telling us in his selection of that particular one. I remember a while back, he did something similr in his dress (I think something on the lapel). I can’t remember that one alas.
http://bradblog.com/?p=4951
I heard Pelosi answer a question about Rove yesterday. When asked what she thought about Rove resigning. She said that it wasn’t her place to comment on an executive branch political advisor. She didn’t think it would make much difference. He was Bush’s main political advisor in the White House and he would continue to be his main political advisor from the outside.
If the Hatch Act doesn’t work, and judicial oversight doesn’t work to bring accountability, and the populace is ill served by the corporate media, then I’m afraid that Scarecrow, et al have to keep grinding away. Which reminds me. The wheels of justice grind exceedingly slow, but fine. I think that’s the quote.
Thanks for all that you do Christy, you are a true American heroine.
Richmond, Rove is known for his weird tie collection. One of the stories I heard yesterday said it was a green tie with greyhounds on it. I’m not sure if there’s a coded message in there anywhere.
Other than bad taste, I guess.
Richmond at 26 — I was trying to find a close-up of the tie, too — it was very much a Kermit the Frog color of green, and I was trying to figure out whether it had frogs on it. A sort of joke on Rove’s part for his “I’m leaving.” announcement day tie, I suppose. But I haven’t found any close-up of the tie to tell if, indeed, it is frogs on it. Anyone find a good shot to be able to tell?
dakine01 @ 24
NPR is very dependent on our contributions. We need to make it clear when they come asking again that we are unhappy with their coverage of the news. They are also throwing in alot more “cultural” slop to take the place of hard news and analysis. I would also shoot letters to our Congress people on this at the same time, because when NPR comes up for refinancing, they need to know that they are no longer serving the needs of the public interest.
BlueStateRedHead @ 21
the caption is wrong — that ain’t bush. i think you’re right, that the picture got updated but that the webfolk forgot to revise the caption.
Great post Christy
The stench of “Turdblossom” will be with us for many years to come. Our solace will be the depths to which Rove cast the GOP in his historic overreach toward a one-party state.
Richmond @ 31
Unfortunately, my congress critters would love nothing more than to have NPR put out of their misery and writing them to complain about it would be one time they’d see there way to doing something.
Kevster at 33 — The real stench is how many of the GOP faithful allowed this to happen without ever lifting a finger to stop it. That’s a post that is bubbling up, but hasn’t quite gelled with me yet because I’m still too pissed off and disgusted about it.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 30
Frogs would indeed be interesting, because of the clear reference to frog march. ITweety I think said that he wasn’t frog marched out of office. Somehow I think this is saying to the Dems, you didn’t get me, I’m walking out on my own accord. If true, it shows how truly infantile this bunch is. It also would suggest that he might be in potential criminal trouble, for this seems upper most in his mind. In short, with the Rovians, even poor taste is calculated.
Christy you nail it as usual, but doesn’t the Congress have the ultimate leverage with its tax and spend powers? I am at a loss as to why the Congress fails to use its tax/spend power to compel answers and accountability? Congress should cut or eliminate executive budgets and/or executive positions unless it gets answers to its inquiries and cooperation with its investigations.
I guess elections do matter now don’t they.
Bravo, Christy. Great post.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 35
Here are a couple of thoughts: the faux “culture wars” coupled with the demonization of the left and the media by the noise machine created an environment akin to a “holy war” for much of the right wing. Their Manichean mindset easily saw this as a clash between good and evil so anyone on their side was inherently good, irregardless of their behavior or tactics. The corporatists saw this as an opportunity to ride the coattails of trumped up social outrage to achieve their own cynical ends. (Ever met a Republican who was against tax cuts?) Finally, conservatives are always victims-anyone defending them as a group is cherished regardless of any harm to the country.
Is Rove’s “permanent Republican majority” a euphemism for a dictatorship?
It would be lovely to think Rove and his “mob” are gone, but they are really off on more criminal endeavors to finish off our democracy. Stealing the 2008 elections will take some work but it can be done as we’ve seen in the past.
Millineryman at 38 — I think so, yes. Especially in this context — because it flipped the Congress from a rubber stamp Parliament to at least a body that, while very closely divided, is able to slow things down or stop them altogether when they put their mind to it. And that is a good thing for all of us.
It’s getting the disperate factions among the Dem caucus to work in concert with each other rather than at odds with one another that is the next big task. Herding cats is not an understatement…not by a long shot. But one thing at a time.
Just this little shift in power dynamics in Washington has rippled out broadly. Here’s hoping we continue to move things in a forward direction…even with the steps backward (like FISA) that are beyond comprehension when they happen. Some days, I just want to throw up my hands at the idiocy of the strategy — but we can’t quit, because we’d be leaving the floor to the wingnuts nd I’ll be damned if I’m gonna be happy with that. *g*
Solai at 39 — Awwww, thanks!
Myrtle June, on Karl’s becoming a “free agent”:
“His first assignment is to get Hillary nominated.”
True dat, Myrtle. :o)
Goood morning, everyone. Thanks, Christy for writing this. It’s a primer for what not to do, and it’s the description of what needs to be corrected.
Saying goodbye to commenting this morning. I continue to be cyber-stalked, and my comments here are appearing on the hate site whose owner and readers are dogging me. I’m so stressed from all that has been happening in what’s left of my life that I think I’m going dormant with blogging as well, but my email addy listed on the blog profile still works.
So thanks,everyone, and know that I am lurking and learning from the A team here.
Kevster at 40 — All good points, and all intertwined in all of this. It’s a bizarre amalgam of crap, isn’t it?
Sally @ 41
They may try but it will be far more difficult for them to do with so many more people watching them than were watching in Y2K and ‘04.
Unless Rove Bush Cheney and all their quislings are put in jail, we’ll just have them(or a group much worse) back to steal from us in another 10 years or so. If Nixon had been brought to justice, we would never have had Rove/Cheney/Rummy doing what they did.
Even if we do manage to put it all to rights(which I very much doubt that we will) without dragging these felons in chains before the news services, we are just encouraging their successors to reach farther, since there’s no consequences, only the big golden ring, waiting for them to grab.
On topic, but circuitous. Today there is a terrific Op Ed in the NYT by Herbert about the close to 100,000 kids and others who have been killed since 2001 through gun violence here at home. One big change since 2001 is that federal authorities (and state and local) have been moved from crime, gun possession, street drugs etc. to searching “terrorists.” Plus local resources are strapped with “No child left” and other critical costs so the policing is way down across the board. I don’t have cable so in the summer I rent the DVDs for shows like the Sopranos and Wired, and this shift in policing priorities is also featured there - and its impact at the local level in ways that really impact peoples’ lives. Clearly this also is part of the political policy of the Rovians, getting people more and more concerned about safety, while doing less than nothing about it, and insisting the Rethugs are strong on crime, and the Dems are weak on it. (same old mirror imagery- referencing things in reverse).
And, equally germane, Goldman today announced they are putting in major money to address the crumbling financial situation. Good of them, considering how many others will be suffering. But to me it also suggests that Goldman has little if any faith that the government can or will help them out enough on this one to make a difference.
SB Gypsy at 47 — Well, you know how I feel about holding these asshats accountable. But that’s a whole post all by itself… *g*
Christy….at some leisurely point in your life (ha!), can you share a word on how you write these wonderful posts? You say that you spend several hours wrangling them in shape. What, besides coffee, are some of the practices you use for shaping and honing your writing. How does the insatiability of your audience play into your writing?
N=1 - I’ll miss your voice here, but I’m glad you are out there, thinking and reading and responding to reason. Have a good rest from the weirdness.
let’s remember that even though he’s leaving, the machinery continues — indeed, he’ll have a freer hand, as others have noted, to finetune the beast.
i commend to anyone looking for a clear-eyed appraisal of the decades-long drive to shift to one-party rule on the state and federal level “Off Center: The Republican Revolution and the Erosion of American Democracy” by Jacob S. Hacker and Paul Pierson.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 45
It is a lot of crap, but very dangerous crap. My complaint about the democrats is their prolonged slumber through all of this and their remaining inability to engage on the true undercurrents of the “permanent republican majority” campaign. Too many pillows showing up at gunfights.
On a positive note: herad Blanche Lincoln on Bill Press defending her FISA vote (one of the 16 dems in favor). She admitted to caving to the 11th hour pressure put on by the administration but she committed to Press to take advantage of the sunset clause to get a better bill. I think she is undersetimating the difficulty of undoing something that’s already done but we need her to make good on her promise.
BlueStateRedHead @ 21
I can’t believe that’s president bush in the backround, doesn’t look anything like him so the caption is wrong
what is more interesting to me is the fact that rove is carrying his own bags
what’s up with that?
NZ Expat at 50 — This particular post was written in stages — first, while The Peanut and I were watching Bug’s Life and making construction paper bugs. And then, once she went to bed, I redrafted the whole thing and added in a number of points after doing some more detailed research. Then I let it sit for a while as Mr. ReddHedd and I cleaned up the kitchen and got the dishwasher loaded and going, which cleared out my ability to do a fresh read. And that helped with the edit of the post, where I pulled a few extraneous bits out and tightened the writing a bit.
It takes quite a while to put together something like this — but it was reading Sidney’s piece and then Digby’s that put this whole article together in my mind before I ever wrote a word. Something just clicked together on the disperate pieces of all of this into a whole. Nothing really magical, just a lot of thinking and writing time, in and among life here at home where I can squeeze it in…
Christy,
Somethng kinda huge to think about (and when I get back from vacay and have more reliable toobz access for doing research, I cn pump out something on this)
But, in many states, pressuring people about their jobs (either offering to give a job or suggesting you will lose a job or promotion) for failure to perform political “volunteer” work (or for volunteering for the other side)
is a big old honkin’ FE:ONY.
Also, just as with federal civil cases where you can bring related state law causes of action in the same court case–you can do that criminally as well.
Normally, you woud have one big massive Hatch Act case that covered everything he did all over the country.
However, since the state law causes of action would not easily cross state lines, you have the possiblity of having USAs all over the coutry EACH having a the potential to take a shot at him for what he has done in their district.
This multiplies the liklihood that some honest and couraeous USA wil actually
pull that triggerer, impannel that Grand jury.If more than one district indicts, that’s OK too, because there are multijurisdistion litigation rules now.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 35
Yup, that one’s a pot boiler, all right!
N=1 -
You take care of yourself, darlin’. I’ll miss your informative contributions but the Lake luvs our lurkers.
perris @ 15
Christy Hardin Smith @ 35
that’s going to be an important post christy
we really do have to get the republlicans on board cleaning out the fascists that over took their party
carmen @ 28
I really don’t “get” NAncy Pelosi. Is she really that weak and clueless? Or is she cynically pretending to be?
Ok they keep saying that the FISA bill will sunset. Does that mean that it’s back to the way it was before July?? If so, and if it’s repudiated by the congress, how bad is the legal precedent of the bill signed in July - I would think the damage was small, but I know next to nothing about law.
Whitehouse Chart for Bush
Sally @ 41
YES
Thanks Christy….I tend to “write” a lot in my mind when I am walking and doing other things. Washing dishes by hand used to be another one of those times. I love when it all begins to click together, and I see that your writing so often clicks. I was just wondering how often the click comes before you begin writing, and when it comes together after you’ve started writing.
Again, a hearty thanks for all you do. As my religious grandmother would say, “That’s another jewel in your crown in heaven.”
Christy Hardin Smith @ 42
Germane to getting the Democrats working together is reminding them in very certain terms who put them where they are and what those people are expecting of them. I went to the local legislative district meeting this weekend and got a resolution passed to write a letter of thanks to our Representative thanking him for his vote against the FISA legislation and urging him to vigorously support Jay Insley’s call to impeach Gonzales. Beyond the carrot approach such as this, I am still intending to send Cindy Sheehan money to, hopefully, scare the incumbents with the realization that a pissed off electorate can replace them too. Nothing like the Speaker of The House taking a hit to remind them of that!
For the legal folks:
Gonzo wants to kill faster!
lhp @ 63, let’s call it what it is then.
Well said Christy.
However, Leahy and Waxman can be great sound bite material. The actual progress of criminally charging Rove is not on my reality radar due to a complete skepticism that they really want to take the ball all the way across the goal line.
So, all I expect is “censure” motions and business as usual. My Senators, Feingold and Kohl are pit bulls compared Leahy. The only thing he seems to be able to do is express disgust.
Well Senator Sam Ervin in his day just kept moving the hearings along to the inevitable end of several indictments and jail terms for the Nixon cast of characters. We need someone like him.
Leahy just does not seem to me to have what it takes to get it done. How many deadlines will it take for Leahy and Waxman to move on with the process? Is Waxman our Peter Rodino? I think not.
From today’s Times, “Mr Rove Gets Out of Town”:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08.....ref=slogin
Poof
Delurking just to welcome N=1 to South Lurkerville. We live behind the big rock on the far side of the lake. We can see and hear all, but lack the carpal tunnel wrist affects of other commenting pups. So come on over when you’re ready. We need a reason for a party.
Oh, and Christy, just thanks for all you do for us each and every day. It’s never enough but words escape me. Peace,
bluejeansntshirt
If anyone needs a giggle this am, this link to a bunch of Rove Resigns Editorial Cartoons.
I hope the leaders of my party are paying attention to this stuff. The 2008 elections may very well determine whether this nation proceeds down the path to fascism. Thus far I am not brimming with confidence in the Democratic leadership. If the GOP reclaims the WH in the next elections, the neo-cons will take that to mean a solid mandate. The repercussions will be enormous.
Oh yeah another thing. Occams Razor theory of Rove leaving would be he needs money to pay the lawyers that will demand some heavy loot to take on his legal problems.
Karl is leaving Washington to spend more time with his bank account.
INL but….
Does Rove’s timing have anything to do w/statutes of limitations? Looks like about two years before even a new 60 percent majority and a Dem exec could get up to speed on investigations.
“Roves Interview Aboard Air Force One”:
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.c.....lier-post/
SB_Gypsy @ 60
One the problem is that there is a provision in the new law that allows any wiretaps begun under the current law to continue for up to a year. That puts it right up the end of Bush’s term.
Another problem, relating to precendet, is that in 6 months, the right will be saying that Dems want to take away the ability of the intelligence agencies to spy on terrorists. Just like the “temporary” tax cuts, they were never intended to be temporary.
perris @ 55
Maybe all those RNC e-mails are in there.
Q & @ with Rove and the WH Press Corps:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08.....ref=slogin
Sally at 77 — Yep, linked that up in the article above…
Folks - I’ve got a couple of concerns. First, Rove did not operate in a vaccuum. There are a lot of Mini-Roves who he trained and developed out there working for the other GOP presidential people who have all absorbed Rovian politics and strategies. So, I think we can anticipate more of the same for a long time to come unless somehow, we can prove to these boneheads that Rovian. does. not. work. Because otherwise, Rove and his “consultants of doom” will just keep on breeding out there. The other thing is this thought that the Rove/Cheney/Bush et al. somehow hijacked the Republican Party, that there are closet Republicans out there who have been secretly meeting over the past 10 years, trying to figure out how to retake the party. Was Pat Leahy the last moderate Republican? Where are those folks? Are they hiding out and waiting for BushCo to disappear? Because if they ARE, they are going to wait a very very long time. BushCo is where they are right now because Rove and his tactics worked. And if the elections in 2006 had not given us a Democratic majority, I think it’s safe to say that we would not be seeing anything from the House and Senate Judiciary Committees, and so on. And I may be totally wrong, but I do think that the only Republican who has stood up to Cheney was Leahy (and look what happened to him - I’m not sure the Senate Chambers will ever be the same after THAT conversation).
So, I’m definitely not ready to say that whole “the national nightmare is over” thing. I think we need to fight harder than ever - and definitely keep an eye on Rove and his movements. I’ve said it before and I’ll keep right on saying it: Bush/Cheney/Rove et al. just keep on going - their hope is that we will lose focus, get angry, get annoyed, lose faith, get tired and quit. We’ve been so long being beaten up, it is hard to get up and put up our dukes with these guys, but we’ve got a start. And we have to just keep on swinging and connecting.
My Blue Dog congressman is going to be about 3 blocks from me at the county fair today, but I can’t go see him. Gotta keep an ankle elevated. He’s going to tell the farmers how he got them farm subsidies, which is fine,but there are some things I’d like to talk to him about. Like his voting record on Iraq.
Toby — Leahy is a democrat, not a republican.
Rove will face a lot of criminal prosecution and have some serious legal bills. Will the repukes come out and support him? Maybe.
Bush will try to cover up by pardoning.
It was always their intention to use a presidential pardon to escape accountability and then assume that America wanted to heal and not revisit this horror after they slinked away with their millions… billions.
There will be lots of cries to “move on” and let bygone be bygones.
There will be no accountability moments in the future except some scathing exposes written by some great writers… which will go largely unread but receive critical acclaim.
America may crumble after these guys have stripped the state bare. Watch out for falling democracies.
Christy, wonderful post.
The Dems have a window open here to take the higher ground and clean their own house of politics as usual and make their language and actions all centered on their oath of office. Those who pull that off will win the voters attention. But then again, I guess it is naive thinking within the beltway to uphold one’s oath of office. Imagine that!
OT - New info on the an*hrax attacks, featuring our favorite judge, Reggie Walton!
Reporters Told to Testify in Leak Case
I’ve long suspected the same as Digby… That Rove has been spying on Congress and the press. One could almost see spying on the press as a, you know, impartial data mining execercise. Then, of course, having gotten in with “legitimate” reasons, you can just check out what they actually said. Get dirt? You own them. Causing trouble for you? You know how to pressure them.
I doubt we’ll ever hear what really went on, but you never know. When a powerful figure loses power, tongues loosen.
Scarecrow @ 14
Good Morning Scarecrow.
YES it’s great. NO, you will.not.retire.
purtypleeze?! It’s clear, we need you and your tremendous gifts now more than ever… ;->
I read Karl’s description of his first meeting with Junior and it still mystifies me:
“Huge amounts of charisma, swagger, cowboy boots, flight jacket, wonderful smile, just charisma — you know, wow,”
Huge numbers of Americans had that same rea