The I-35W bridge in Hennepin County was not the only bad bridge in Minnesota. Not by a long shot:
Corroded strands of rebar jut from the sides and pillars of the cracked Hwy. 36 bridge near Stillwater, while jagged pieces of fallen concrete litter the ground below.
Every day, nearly 10,000 vehicles travel eastbound over the crumbling structure. Most of the people in the huge trucks, cars and school buses on the bridge are unaware that it has been listed federally as "basically intolerable."The Hwy. 36 span, crossing over Hwy. 95, appears to be the only structurally deficient bridge on a major Twin Cities highway to carry such a critical label. But throughout Minnesota, hundreds of thousands of drivers cross over steadily deteriorating bridges. Many are considered to be in worse shape than the Interstate 35W span before its collapse and have been on replacement lists for years.
And what has Carol Molnau, our illustrious MnDOT head and Tim Pawlenty protégé, done in her time in office to address these and other pressing issues?
From the beginning, Molnau, 57, has seemed to be an unlikely leader for MnDOT.
She's a no-new-taxes farmer without a college degree heading an agency with 4,500 employees and a $2 billion annual budget that hungers constantly for road funding. By her own admission, she's a "not very polished kind of person."
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At a post-bridge collapse news conference last Monday, wearing white Capri pants and a nautical theme T-shirt, she praised the media's coverage, then turned the session over to her assistant, Bob McFarlin. She stepped away from the microphones and sat down.
At another news conference later in the week, she stood in the back of the room as a reporter questioned the legality of a consultant's contract involving bridge inspection. Molnau didn't respond. It was McFarlin who immediately seized on the implication and defended the agency.
Um, wow. She really doesn't sound like she's all that qualified for the job, does she? But when you're Tim Pawlenty's buddy, such things don't matter:
Molnau spent five terms in the House after serving on the Chaska City Council. She rose to chair the Transportation Finance Committee and was a fierce opponent of light-rail transit, favoring instead outstate and suburban projects.
In 2002, Pawlenty's desk-mate in the House became his running mate. In 2003, Pawlenty gave her a unique dual role. In addition to her duties as lieutenant governor, he made her the head of MnDOT, one of the state's largest and most important agencies.
Ah, a transit department head who hates the most effective weapon we have against pollution and the negative effects of sprawl. Charming.
Oh, and she flatly refuses to allow her agency staff to ask for the money they need, because that might require raising taxes, especially on rich people.
I remember a time, back before the 1980s, back before the long string of Republicans running things at the state and national levels, when Minnesota was a place to be envied, a shining city on a hill. We had excellent roads, bridges, schools, utilities, and jobs. Now, thanks to decades of cutting away the tax burden from the rich and shifting it onto the poor and middle class, Minnesota is no longer so shiny; if it shines at all, it's only because the rest of the nation has got even worse.
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zunoed? PW!
I once lived at the corner of Franklin and Hennepin, 1971.
I think I’m hallucinating. I think Abrams is suggesting Karl Rove did leak.
Hah!
LS @ 2
For real? Cool!
Phoenix Woman @ 5
For real. N/E corner building.
That’s an odd arrangement, giving the Lt Gov an actual job to do. Is someone ensuring she doesn’t move up politically by tying her to the state’s crumbling infrastructure? Clearly she’s in over her head, but what Gop isn’t?
that is a GREAT pic!
Hi PW. Another fine post!
The day the bridge collapsed in MN was the day I arrived in Chicago, and I remember crossing a small bridge on the way into town from the airport. I had the impression that the only thing holding the bridge together was rust. We need to fix our country’s infrastructure NOW.
LS @ 6
Actually, I also lived in the building across the street too! I was 18.
TeddySanFran @ 7
Molnau’s been one of Pawlenty’s biggest allies from the get-go, but she’s not particularly bright. He probably figures that he’s outgrown her.
Phoenix Woman @ 5
About the only MN story I have is that I had a drink with Al Baker at his place in Eagan one Sunday just before the busload of fans made it back from a Vikings home game. The next morning I had to scrape an inch of ice off the car using a rental car scraper.
That pic is up there with Jane’s Gooper Cry Baby!
((((((((Phoenix Woman)))))))
TeddySanFran @ 7
Did somebody ask for a Brownie?
Should hire the owner of the Utah mine to take care of these problems—retreat bridging- that’s the ticket!
It’s a great post and I dislike going OT but if JAYT is still here, i think that Walton is correct in the sense that if links occurred when lives were at stake, they should be revealed. Morally It would be nice if the journalist came forward sooner. Think of the priest in the confessional..
dakine01 @ 12
I actually remember Al Franken, who I think was about a year ahead of me in school (he attended an all boys school, I was in the sister school), doing some kind of comedy skit with his comedy partner at the time..maybe Tom Davis or somebody. Anyway, he was exactly the same as he is now…he was funny and really smart.
radiofreewill @ 13
And Brokeback Mountain with Bush and who was that crony? “Why can’t I quit you?”, Dubya said.
This is great Jon Stewart:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/....._0810.html
If the Etruscans can build a tomb that would last 2000 years, certainly we can build bridges to last. Also, their culture lasted 2000 years, will we make it to 300?
The United States of America, like all other industrialized nations, has and needs a large government. But, unlike other industrialized nations, the citizens of the United States have sought people who don’t believe in large governments to manage theirs, and with the obviously predictable consequences.
ok, the infrastructure needs a “pay your expenses fee”
that’s the way I want to frame ALL new taxes
from now on, NO CORORATE WELFARE
that’s the way I want to frame it too/
like so’;
” corporate consumption such as heavy vehicles and carbon contamination burdon others with their expense.
everyone pays the corporations expense through wearing infrastructure, through health issues with our children that are caused by the corporations that transfer those expenses to everyone else
this cannot be allowed, nobody thinks a profitable corporation should get their bills payed for by those who are burdoned
if a bussiness is struggling, we will find exemptions when the public needs the service that bussines provides but we will say it now, LOUD AND CLEAR
NO WELFARE FOR PROFITABLE CORPORATIONS, ALL PROFITABLE BUSSINESSES WILL PAY USE FEES THAT ARE COMENSERATE WITH THEIR CONSUMPTION?
can you say
BING
wigwam @ 21
And when you elect people who campaign on “government is bad”, that’s what you get - bad government.
perris @ 22
and when the fascists CLAIM the middle class will be burdoned with higher prices we say
“BULL CRAP
our children will be healthier, our roads will be safer, our air will be cleaner, our water clear”
and we continue;
“the price of goods is not decided by the cost of product, it is decided by what the consumer will pay for that product
added cost is transfered FROM ceo’s that get billion dollar parachutes, no longer will the American public pay the services that profitable corporations burdon”
Even in China …
Fourteen die in China bridge collapse, 65 missing (Reuters)
Published: Tuesday, August 14, 1:22 AM
Reuters - A bridge under construction in southern China has collapsed killing at least 14 people and injuring 22, state media reported on Tuesday.
TexBetsy @ 25
they must have our neo cons running things there too
hackworth @ 18
LOL. Must have been Rove.
TexBetsy @ 25
That is sad even though it was under construction.
LS @ 19
thanks LS
LS @ 19
That is a good one. Thanks, In other words, I missed Jon Stewart that nite.
It’s interesting to see the view in Right Blogistan: We have an infrastructure problem now because the Democrats re-directed the money for decades into the Welfare State!
Elliott @ 29
Kids are watching that in the other room and laughing.
OK, first, my MN bona fides: I lived at Cedar Square West for about 8 months right after it opened, and then lived at 10th and University SE - 5 blocks from Dinkytown, 2 or so blocks from the 35W bridge.
And now, if you haven’t seen it, check out this Cafepress bumper sticker that TexBetsy found:
perris @ 24
Not only that but Bush’s tax “cuts” were really tax “deferals” to our children / grandchildren.
Garrison Keillor chimes in on the I-35W collapse.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/f.....8/keillor/
TexBetsy @ 25
Damn. Why does that remind me of, “Eat your dinner. Think of all of the starving children in China”…
radiofreewill @ 31
Plus, real conservative bridges wouldn’t be weak-kneed.
to quote rumsfeld himself;
“oh my”
check this out from think progress;
as one of the architechs of unending war I have no sympathy
We really need to tie global warming, crumbling infrastructure and under-developed rail systems together. We’re not paying our way on any of them and they basically are all tied to the artificially low taxes on petrol based fuels. If we really taxed gas and diesel at the level of the true system costs we would not be in nearly as bad shape as we are. A gas and diesel tax of $3.00 a gallon coupled with a tax credit for the poor and mid-income to reduce the impact would go a long way towards solving all three issues.
Well lets see, some of were shocked at Katrina and how that was handled but not too surprised,we have agencies that monitored bridges and roads, or mine safety, little things like OSHA, the quality of safety of our food and drugs. Now we have safety theater, and politicians who’s only thought is “don’t get caught”, As Pogo once said we have met the enemy and he is us.
exactly what will it take for we the people to wake the fuck up? crumbling infrastructure, iraqi war still a killing field, no resources for vets coming home with PTSD, and ceo’s making millions while laying off workers…. its just a bit too much - thanks for this post oh and unsafe mines …..{{PW}}
radiofreewill @ 31
Welfare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Medicare (other than Dubya’s boondoggle gift to big pharma) VA Hospitals and Nursing homes and infrastructure have all been cut hard by Rethuglicans. Rethuglicans hurt old people, and children the most.
radiofreewill @ 31
So say “So you agree that we should have been taxing? You just disagree on how to spend it?”. One step at a time.
hackworth @ 42
And the disabled, both veterans and civilian.
TexBetsy @ 32
I like that image.
The LA Times today had a story on the bridges of CA. They pointed out that there are several ’structure-critical’ bridges, where if one element goes, the bridge goes. One of them is the bridge between San Pedro and Terminal Island. The one between Long Beach and Terminal Island isn’t much better. Guess where the port of Los Angeles is ….
P J Evans @ 46
Not in a good place, I’m sure.
Elliott @ 29
Love this the best:
Bush knows how to take lemons and make terroraid.–Jon Stewart
Actually, the Bush tax cuts have increased taxes on the middle class. Bush tax cuts are a myth. The tax burden has been shifted from the millionaires to us. Redstate knuckeldraggers don’t realize they are paying higher taxes. Maybe b/c they are unemployed.
and so rove leaves this sinking ship of state and bushco has no rudder - 2008 cant come fast enough - we are so near a meltdown with criminals in high places
P J Evans @ 46
Well if those bridges went how would we get our cheap and dangerous things from China? After all we did tear down the Long Beach Naval base for them.
P J Evans @ 46
Oh, yes, well we all know nothing happens in CA that would put stress on bridges.
hackworth @ 50
in fact they are not tax cuts they are tax giveaways
they redistribute middle class assets, investments and wealrth and they give that treasure to the wealthies people on the planet
it’s not about giving them money either, it’s a class war, they do not want a strong middle class they want robber baron economics
juslin @ 49
Former RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie got the knob did he not? Ed’s gonna tell Bush what to say and do in Dubya’s left ear and Cheeney’s got the right one.
CEO of the company that owns the Utah mine that collapsed is diggin more holes- says that the guys are probably alive down there.
radiofreewill @ 31
As opposed to cutting the revenue.
But of course, wingnuts don’t hate taxes so much as they hate seeing them spent on black and brown people. That’s what this is all about.
perris @ 53
Middle classers and future middle classers have to pay it all back eventually.
hackworth @ 50
While I agree that Bush has raised taxes on the middle class, it was Reagan that made it balance. Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy have no way been balanced by regressive taxes.
Welcome to the 400 Year Reich. Can’t even maintain roads and bridges, just kill Iraquis. Jesus H. Fuck, Minnesota was home to so much Progressive history. When and how did the fucktards take over?
hackworth @ 54
JDM @ 59
Started back in the 60s. A bunch of guys in smelly polyester suits used to meet in cheap, rural Holiday Inns and plot strategy. Called themselves the “John Birch Society”. Caught the eye of some Carnegie Mellon hiers. The rest is history.
NYC bridges are also in trouble. One of my nightmares since childhood is a bridge collapse, I usually go over the Tappan Zee because it’s lower than the George W. Bridge (stupid cause both are a risk) but it makes me feel better. Our taxes are one of the highest in the nation, but I have always felt that we get what we pay for. We need to invest in infrastructure, but we need to invest wisely. Most people around me have bought into the ‘less taxes always better’ frame of mind. While I certainly don’t want to pay excessive taxes, I get alot of service from the trains, bridges, roads, etc. The mindset that it is all or nothing (i.e. low taxes or growth) do not reflect the utility we get from our tax revenue. Just pisses me off that my neighbors want lower taxes, but can’t see any utility in their tax dollars.
TexBetsy @ 57
unless we do something about it
we need that revenue returned from whence it came and we need to people who it was given to give it back
Is anyone else wondering where the discussion of impeachment has gone in the blogsphere? Have we given up?
IMPEACH
rwcole @ 55
You know it occurs to me that they may never be found. In other words, if they were migrant workers, perhaps the mine owner doesn’t want them found. Ditto with many of the people who died in N.O. A KBR company was brought in to search for the dead. You know they found far fewer than were actually there.
GordonM said,
While I agree that Bush has raised taxes on the middle class, it was Reagan that made it balance. Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy have no way been balanced by regressive taxes.
If you do a bit of research, you will see that you are repeating a right-wing fantasy. Right Wingers love historical revisionism. Raygun ran up a huge deficit. Progressives don’t call him Red Ink Reagan for naught. Sidebar: Home mortgage rates were as high as 14 percent under Saint Ronnie. Bush is far worse, however.
Entirely OfT, but this cheered me up:
ccmask @ 48
that’s funny. But it’s so sad that it’s true.
hackworth @ 66
Well no, I just worded it badly. Effective tax rates over Reagan’s term were unchanged. He just spent like a motherfucker.
realworld @ 64
I was wondering about that earlier today.
And so was Nancy.
Nancy calls for impeachment (youtube) *s*
Regroup.
One minute till Weeds.
What kind of receptions have been plained for the key players in our great leaders?
IMPEACH!! yeah but the dems have shown no willingness to do so - hell they cant bring no indictments for all the wrong-doing thus far… repugs have outfoxed them on every turn
and north korea:
NKorea: Hundreds dead, missing in rain (AP)
AP - Heavy rains spawned flooding that left “hundreds” dead or missing in North Korea and destroyed more than 30,000 homes, the country’s state media reported Tuesday.
PW - all you have to know about Rove and the Base is that Rove’s cover story for his Cooper Conversation during the Plame Leak was “Welfare Reform” when the actual subject was “Niger.”
hackworth @ 50
I remember getting that $500. child tax credit check in 2001 and
thinking about what could have been done with my check x how many others. I thought it was the stupidest move possible. Imagine what it cost in IRS costs, printing and postage to send all those checks out. Not to mention that it wiped out Clinton’s surplus. Just stupid.
GordonM @ 69
in point of fact, contrary to corporate propaganda, reagan raised taxes more then any other peace time president up to him
those taxes came from the middle class, the giveaways to the wealthy came from..you guessed it, the middle class
class war boys and girls
I remember when all the papers and tv was saying how great the economy was under reagan and I remember talking to everyone and everyone saying “bull crap”
we drove down the street every day and there was another small bussiness closing shop
we played tennis in the park and there were more homeless then we had seen in our entire lives
hey…by the way and off topic;
remember all those stray cats we used to have in new york?
where did they all go?
no more cats…genocide me thinks
I just got my “Impeach Cheney?” hat, but haven’t had a chance to wear it around town yet. Seriously though, I just don’t see the political will for impeachment. Will keep making calls in any case.
hackworth @ 50
How many school districts do you know of that haven’t had to pass local bonds just to keep schools in shape? Not any I can think of here in San Diego area.
juslin @ 74
And quite a few Dems.
0ff to bed, night all
57
TexBetsy Middle classers and future middle classers have to pay it all back eventually.
While this is mostly true, the wealthy fear another democratic president like the plague.
One issue that is seldom discussed is the tax hike Clinton imposed on millionaires at the beginning of his second term. One millionaire complained to me that Clinton’s one time tax cost him a hundred grand. Believe me, 100 g’s is pocket change to this prick. But rich pricks were really pissed about Clinton hitting them in the pocketbook. At that time, 100 grand would buy a new Mercedes sport coupe/cabrio.
The rich are going to have to pony up again and they fear it. They don’t care if trickle down economics grind the economy to a halt (its happening). They do not want to part with any dough. Too bad.
Not so OT:
CNN’s headline “Cheap labor key to $30K electric car”.
Article here.
Made in China, of course. Not like we could do anything like that in this country, what with labor unions…
Grrrrr.
hackworth @ 83
I have never understood this. How many cars can you drive, how many houses can you live in, etc. Wretched excess !
Only one Democratic candidate mentioned the power grid in the last debate when they were talking about weaknesses in our national infrastructure. That scares me more than crumbling bridges, because if we experience a massive power failure that could take days or god forbid even weeks to repair things would get ugly fast. If the power were to fail out here in the West during a heat wave a lot of folks could die. The same goes for a loss of electricity in the North during the winter. I don’t think most Americans have any idea how tenuous their creature comforts actually are.
TexBetsy @ 75
Is it that there are enormous amounts of dead from catastrophes in Asia…which always exceed the numbers killed here in similar events, or is it that the reports are skewed. Who really knows how many were actually killed during Katrina? The numbers are somehow odd. During Vietnam reporting, they would report something like 100 dead Americans, then they would report 1,100 Vietcong dead. The numbers seem skewed. That is why I am skeptical of numbers reported. There always seem to be thousands more dead in “Asia” than in the US. Something always seems…wrong.
In my area there are many of the very rich that complain about heavy taxes. What they don’t seem to understand is that, as a percentage of income, the heavy load is on the middle class. Of course we are trying to apply a system that would require them to pay the bulk of taxes (sarcasm.) What they won’t understand is that we are paying a much higher percentage most of the time because they earn a great deal in capital gains, while we pay a higher percentage on earned income. Unfortunately that distinction is beyond them (again sarcasm.)
GordonM @ 84
Sounds high to me. In the movie Who Killed The Electric Car several points were made about how simple the design was including no transmission, iirc.
Gotta bail for now — big-ass storms coming through. ‘Night, everyone!
LS @ 87
This is because homes here have traditionally been built better and with more safeguards.
Now Mulnou is practially giddy about how the federal moneys for the new bridge can NOT be used to add room for a light rail line or bike paths to the bridge. The federal money is like insurance, they’re saying, in that the money won’t pay for upgrades that weren’t there before. So we’re basically going to get a bridge designed with a 50’s attitude. great.
BTW, LOVE the graphic!
Marretta @ 86
Well I live in rural Maine. Everyone who winters here is prepared for at least a week of no power. See, Maine is a poor state, so no one has ever even pretended to offer us any ’security’. No cell phone service, no cable TV, no DSL. “Can you hear me now?” Fuck no. Never could.
85
Twain says I have never understood this. How many cars can you drive, how many houses can you live in, etc. Wretched excess !
The more money you have, the more money you want. You can never have enough. No matter how rich you are, there is somebody richer than you. You always worry that you won’t have enough. This is what motivates the wealthy.
What motivates a guy like Cheeney? Money and power. Cheeney is one of the most powerful and wealthiest men on the planet, yet his appetite cannot be sated. On to Iran he says.
Phoenix Woman @ 90
Nite. Thanks for the post.
hackworth @ 94
I want each kid to have their own private space and I’d love for them to have decent furniture held together by more than duct tape. We’re fine on cars.
JPL @ 16
It’s a great post and I dislike going OT but if JAYT is still here, i think that Walton is correct in the sense that if links occurred when lives were at stake, they should be revealed. Morally It would be nice if the journalist came forward sooner. Think of the priest in the confessional..
yeah, I changed my mind a bit after reading the article. EPU’d:
jayt says:
August 13th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
JPL @ 119
LS @ 95
The Walton story:
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap…..15583.html
OMG, IF Rove is tied to this, no wonder the strange press conference
Hmmm, maybe I spoke too fast. Ugly legal situation. I hate to see reporters forced to reveal their sources, though. Reporters should have a codified, presumptive privilege to protect their sources.
I think that this might be a good occasion for the doctrine of res ipsa loquitor (the thing speaks for itself) to be used. Maybe Reggie could require the reporters to identify only the agency involved, as opposed to specific individuals.
Competing privacy interests are present here, I now see - makes for a very tough legal call. I guess I’m still a little pissed about the Sibel Edmonds thing.