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Mitt Romney spent around $5.7 million in Iowa and got 4,516 votes, which means it cost him $1,262 per vote. (In 1999, Bush got 7,418 by way of comparison).
They should have known they were in trouble when "none of the above" was the top GOP contender.
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The only question is whether is has enough $$ to go the distance….along with all that family.
a better question is can a Mormon who is vocal about his faith win, particularly with the evangelical base who are largely pentecostal and baptist?
Jane! You just started a post!
althespook @ 3
And both highly skeptical of the LDS!!!
thats why they have the RV, they are taking the fun bus to the promise land, one dollar at a time.
Well as we know, at least Mittie’s sons are very patriotic.
Romney has multiple positions on every issue. This way he covers all the bases.
It is also important to remember that the LDS is a very wealthy church which invests in and directly controls businesses. I don’t know what the tax status on that is, but if Romney were to get the nomination, I’ll bet it would come up real fast. In fact, if he become the “front runner” expect Gholiani and the others to bring it up themselves.
althespook @ 3
If he declares Southern Baptist preacher Huckabee as his running mate, who knows.
My Dad, is my country? Hmm something seems a bit off in that equation.
Gee, I wonder if he has enough money to buy every Rethug vote in the US.
At least now his son’s can continue to serve their country…and with SUCH pride!
dogeatdogi @ 13
Hi, dogi.
Duncan Hunter got more voters than McCain .. lol .. not only that .. but Rudy McHollywood couldn’t gather 500 voters combined. How pathetic.
Eureka Springs @ 10
Don’t think he’ll do that. Doesn’t seem his style (although politically it would be interesting). But I still don’t see him getting the nomination.
BTW, does anyone have any good info on the continually back sliding early primaries? I understand NH is going to be held in September 07 now just to be safe…:)
I honestly hope Romney gets the nomination–I’m going to enjoy watching Hillary punch him in the teeth.
Josh Marshall made the interesting comment that only aout 14,000 people voted, compared to 24,000 eight years ago.
althespook @ 16
No, but it’s getting worse than selling Christmas stuff at Hallowe’en.
is that the strawman, like in the Wizard of OZ???
$5 million could sure feed a lot of people.
Is Mitt Romney Mormon enough to be President?
Rob Zuber @ 18
I saw some of it earlier today, but I did not see many people there.
Frank Probst @ 21
LOL!!!
Elliott @ 19
I think they should just do all of them at once. You know, have the primary for 2008, 2010, 2012, etc, all at the end of this year.
Hey, Mitt Romney is a “son” producer. That outta get all those macho types all in a tizzy.
LS @ 25
And his wife is exhausted !
LS @ 25
a manly man
Imagine. President Mitt Romney. Or President Rudy. Or President Fred.
Well never thought the phrase ” vote early and often” would ever be used in this context. Nearly a year of voting on rigged voting machines, but lots of opportunity to see the full variety of bull sh*t artists at work.
Elliott @ 27
Isn’t there a ban on channeling Tweety here at the lake?
Twain @ 14
Hello!!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 28
Canada, here I come…!!! ;-)
Twain @ 26
Heh. All pretty close in age it seems…must have been a wild house over there at the Romney’s there for awhile.
EPU’d from earlier thread:
I could “almost” understand the MSM’s looking the other way about Dubya in 2000 given his family background. However, Gail Sheehy’s feelings must still be hurt that no one either read or took seriously her pre-election “Vanity Fair” piece on Little Boots.
The Rudy focus/pass by the media just escapes me and begs all reason (and yes, I’m talking to you Tweety). I have watched Rudy since his nascent days in the US Attorney’s office…have never seen a bigger or more self-serving prick.
There is not enough newsprint, TV/radio frequencies and/or bandwidth to describe what a danger this guy would be in the WH. He could give lying/self-destruction lessons to the entire Dubya regime.
If by some total collective, elective brain fart of fear, this guy ends up as president with Ms. Judy in tow (”I’ll just finish the demo on poor Fido now”), then I’m leaving…..for somewhere else.
Am currently visiting relatives in NC. They’re true blue Demos but this Rudy stuff worries me. Their friends will never vote for Romney because of the LDS stuff. Please let the Rethugs nominate Mitt and his “..Bago boys”. That’ll never go over in places like this where kids are coming home in boxes or without limbs.
dogeatdogi @ 31
The big Mc from your state didn’t do so great……..aaaaahhhhhhhhh
althespook @ 30
I hope so
althespook @ 30
Yeah. Turns out he’s got his own blog.
Oh Mitt, get a wife! Oops, I mean life!
althespook @ 3
AK, vocal about his faith? He won’t even explain it.
How much did None Of The Above spend?
LS @ 20
5,000 months of foods stamps in AR.
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CTuttle @ 32
I’ll put a shrimp on the barbie… (actually we call them prawns and seldom do them on the the barbie, but who am I to argue with Paul Hogan?)
GordonM @ 37
Brain Bleach, Aisle One! Stat!
Twain @ 34
Yeah, Mr Mcflop sucked, and as you can imagine I’m feeling VERY BLUE!!
GordonM @ 37
that’s hysterical!
Jane (nyc) @ 35: my MA friends hate Mitt more than my NY friends hate Rudy. I didn’t believe that possible, but it’s true.
$35 per vote:
Today for $35 i had 3 fish tacos, cilantro mashed potatoes, black beans, a margarita, and a beer. I win.
althespook @ 3
Is anyone going to edumicacate those in the base about the tenets and practices of Mitt’s faith? I’m not one to ever pick on somebody’s religious beliefs. I’d never mock a Hindi, a Muslim, or a Zoroastrian. Yet I’m perfectly comfortable with my private nickname for Romney - Mitty Magicpants
But Huckabee? And lordy lordy Brownback? Uhg
Hi Persi! How is Mr P?
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 15
Duncan Hunter is one scary MoFo. He’s Darrell Issa reflected.
Elliott @ 27
LOL. I almost said same to Loo Hoo in response to her comment on earlier thread!
Loo Hoo. @ 39
But he emphasizes he is a person of faith and that his faith shapes his values. That brings his specific religion into play. I contrast this with JFK, who made it clear that his faith and his politics were utterly separate.
And I don’t expect Mr. Romney to bring up the various issues some have with the Mormon faith and Church, but his opponents. He very well knows the problems there, that’s why he won’t explain his faith beyond safe platitudes.
And for all persons of Mormon faith at the lake, please understand that *I* would never judge anyone’s faith. I only see this point from the political aspect.
petedownunder @ 42
True! I’m equidistant between the two, and Darwin is tropical, like here in Hawaii!
plastic @ 47
Dang, you know how to live!
Loo Hoo. @ 51
They are connected by dots somehow…I can smell it…both of them.
I wonder can I file now for political asylum in OZ as my friends down there say I should, or wait for the next rigged election? Wait whats this, what a nice tinfoil hat, for me thanks.
persiflage @ 48
I expect if Romney becomes a serious contender for the nomination, the “back door” information channels will get the info out. No MSM outlet will touch it, the LDS-owned and controlled businesses control too much advertising.
OT..more good christian family values..
Pastor accused of dragging girl behind his van
A trainer also faces charges in incident at boot camp
By JEORGE ZARAZUA
San Antonio Express-news
A San Antonio pastor and an employee of his Christian boot camp were arrested Friday on aggravated assault charges, accused of dragging a girl behind a van after she failed to keep up during a running exercise.
………….
http://rawstory.com/showoutart.....45830.html
CTuttle @ 32
With The North American Union, Canada will be coming to us. Or at least we will be part of one large multinational corporation. I have heard Rudy’s law firm represents the “Trans Texas Corridor”.
argosfalcon @ 57
I’d definitely wait till after the next Oz election. Howard is Bush with more brains and his immigration policy is “put them in jail first, ask questions later, particularly if they’re brown.”
Steve-AR @ 59
That is horrifying…
Can we talk about how pathetic the turnout was? I mean, Iowa is small, but it’s not THAT small.
petedownunder @ 50
Hi Pete! Mr P is sunning himself and pretending to work in the Solomon Islands. He spent a miserable day at Brisbane airport last week before his flight was cancelled. He’ll be back in Brisbane after he’s finished in Honiara. If time permits, he’ll be in touch.
LS @ 56
I love to hate Issa.
Who put him up to squawking about the number of border prosecutions? That was a concerted effort to get Lam out, Issa didn’t come up with that himself.
Steve-AR @ 59
If I were to name the one thing that the newly elected dem pres/congress should do, it’s destroy those awful “boot camps”. It is actually a sign of how far we’ve fallen that they exist at all. Can anyone imagine FDR allowing children with juvenile problems to be sent to such places? He didn’t want to sent enemy PRISONERS to such places (Geneva Conventions).
Frank Probst @ 63
Would you pay $35 to vote for one of those guys?
argosfalcon @ 57
If you think Oz is a haven, you haven’t been following their politics. Their long-term prime minister is a Bush-wannabe.
petedownunder @ 67
Do I get beer?
althespook @ 3
There were xtianists with flyers at the Iowa event today, telling people not to vote for a cultist. Kinda funny if you think about it…
Frank33 @ 60
Nooooo :O
Mitt Romney may have bought today’s Iowa Republican Straw Poll, but history mercifully shows that the winner rarely ends up in the White House.
For the details, see:
“Flashback: Pat Robertson Wins 1987 Iowa Straw Poll.”
Frank Probst @ 68
Picture Bush half as tall but able to speak in complete sentences with an accent and big eye brows and you have John Howard.
petedownunder @ 61
As a fan of chasers I will take your advice, and will watch with great amusement, until AT&t cuts off the feed (just so touchy they are about things political).
TeddySanFran @ 70
I admit that I enjoy the irony, but not enough to want him to be President.
{{{{{Jane}}}}}
You put it all in perfect perspective. Love it!
Quick scroll thru comments shows that the dawgs do purty well too.
This just a fly-by. We’re coping with toobz woes these days. But thanks for the hoots & hollers, guys. Good medicine for what ails us!
argosfalcon @ 73
As a fan of chasers I will take your advice, and will watch with great amusement, until AT&t cuts off the feed (just so touchy they are about things political).
The Chasers are sometimes pretty funny, sometimes not so much, but full credit for trying.
Watch out for Huckabee. I think the rest of the ass-clowns underestimate him at their peril. The ideal candidate in an election with an unpopular president would be some kind of outsider who can run against Washington politicians. Worked for Carter and Clinton 1.0. Worked for Reagan. Could work for Huckabee. Maybe Romney.
Frank Probst @ 21
He’s going to have to talk about his faith, and his speech can’t really be like JFK’s in 1960. Unlike the Pope, the presiding elder of LDS really can tell you what to do, even if you are President of the United States. It’s a very heirarchical religion, and the person at the top, to whom God speaks in ongoing revelations, is in charge. Romney will need to address that, should he succeed in more than straw polls.
Early Analysis On Iowa Results:
http://proctoringcongress.blog.....sults.html
Precis: They probably lose Thompson, Hunter and Brownback if his funding dies. Everybody else seems likely to stay it. Huckabee is the “breakout winner”, to the immense annoyance of Mitt and everyone else. :)
Frank Probst @ 63
None of the Republican candidates are authoritarian enough to encourage turnout.
:)
Gore/Dean 08
Accept No Prostitutes!
althespook @ 79
The Repugs really have an awful group of candidates - bless their hearts.
Twain @ 82
and their little pointed ears
((waives to LoudonLib))
I have good friends living in Ames both of whom work at Iowa State Univeristy and who probably will be happy to see the Republican Freak Show leave town. They drive a Prius and teeach and work on rural development issues both here and abroad. I surely feel for them.
Subway Serenade @ 81
There is still Larry Flynt to look forward to. That could throw a whole new wrench in there..
(( waves back at petedownunder ))
LS @ 86
The REAL Weapons Of Mass Disgustion…
((oops left out a “u” in LoudounLib))
cleter @ 78
Huckabee really does believe much of his religion (unlike Bush) and he really is not very smart and he doesn’t have any money or a rove machine to cover it all up.
petedownunder @ 76
No one in such a target rich environment can hit the mark everytime even the Daily show misses and we have the franklin mint of little boots knock offs, and wacko’s, all hoping for at least a commemorative plate.
>>If you think Oz is a haven, you haven’t been following their politics. Their long-term prime minister is a Bush-wannabe.
Hi Adie!
petedownunder @ 90
no worries mate ;-)
Huckabee seems to have carefully studied the campaigns of Carter and Clinton. Romney is emulating the governor with wads o’ cash style of W in 2000.
Huckabee is positioning himself as a refuge for the Southerners who are uncomfortable with Romney Guiliani. I think that by South Carolina, it’s going to be down to Huckabee and somebody.
cleter @ 78
Oh, I doubt someone who was governor of Arkansas could be elected president…. oh, wait.
Eureka Springs @ 91
I feel much better.
Jane (nyc) @ 35
Man, I sure hope you’re right. NC has had too many deaths in this invasion. How could any republican possibly win? Course I’ve thought that before…
At the rate we’re going the South Carolina Primary will be held on Halloween and how will we tell them apart?
Rob Zuber @ 81
Oh, Rudy is plenty authoritarian. It’s just that people in the heartland don’t much cotton to abrasive New Yorkers. I don’t think Rudy travels well.
AZ Matt @ 86
All the articles are full of talk about fried Oreos and fried Twinkies, if you can imagine such things. I can’t.
I know this just may be me, but every time I see Romney I picture him as a fascist Ken doll, complete with the plastic hair and a “Protect the Homeland” armband.
He would come with three pre-recorded phrases that you can play by squeezing him: “Double Guantanamo,” “I’ve accepted Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior,” and “My fancy underpants must have shrunk in the wash.”
Sometimes my imagination runs away with me.
For a funny portrait of Iowa, I highly recommend Bill Bryson’s The Thunderbolt Kid. It is set in the 50’s but I suspect not a lot has changed.
petedownunder @ 99
At the rate we’re going the South Carolina Primary will be held on Halloween and how will we tell them apart?
did I hear that N.H. moved their primary - to last week?
Here’s wishing you all a Gore night.
cleter @ 95
I think you have a point there…soft spoken…however, I don’t believe for one moment that Bush/Cheney will consider walking out of the WH and handing the keys over to him. Remember, they control the RNC.. The Repub candidate will be “determined”, not elected. Hopefully, the RNC will get boiled in oil between now and then by Leahey, etal.
petedownunder @ 100
The taller people in sheets are the Republican voters, the smaller ones are trick-or-treaters….
LOL Marretta
dogeatdogi @ 44
I’m thinking blues ought to be the subject for late late night after the headline. Real BLUES as in suffering, no hope, etc.
petedownunder @ 99
Well the republicans won’t need a costume their scary enough on the own, and are known for stealing candy from children (heck they steal anything nailed down or not).