Good God, when it comes to finding inventive excuses for backing Bush's war and occupation of Iraq, the Republicans rubber-stamping their approval of his every act contort themselves so much you'd think they were in Cirque du Soleil.
Now that Harry Reid has cut off their favored escape routes on Iraq by pulling the Defense Appropriations Bill (and thereby preventing Republicans from adding toothless and fake "withdrawal" legislation like Warner-Lugar and the Salazar Distraction to it to give them something to vote for to look "pro-withdrawal" without actually withdrawing), they are beyond being drowning persons grasping at real straws: They've invented imaginary ones and pretending they can ride them safely to shore.
Here's what I'm talking about:
More in GOP want Iraq military limits
By ANNE FLAHERTY and KIMBERLY HEFLING, Associated Press Writers 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Republicans increasingly are backing a new approach in the Iraq war that could become the party's mantra come September. It would mean narrowly limited missions for U.S. troops in Iraq but let President Bush decide when troops should leave.
So far, the idea has not attracted the attention of Democratic leaders. They are under substantial pressure by anti-war groups to consider only legislation that orders troops from Iraq.
But the GOP approach quickly is becoming the attractive alternative for Republican lawmakers who want to challenge Bush on the unpopular war without backtracking from their past assertions that it would be disastrous to set deadlines for troop withdrawals.
"This is a necessary adjustment in the national debate to reintroduce bipartisanship, to stop the `gotcha' politics that are going on that seem to be driven by fringes on both sides and change the terms of the discussion," said Rep. Phil English, R-Pa.
English is among the more than 40 Republicans in the House and Senate who are sponsoring legislation intended to shift the mission of U.S. troops. Several other GOP lawmakers, facing tight elections next year and a strong anti-war sentiment in their districts, say they are considering this approach.
In the immortal words of the Alan Rickman iteration of Professor Severus Snape: "I. May. Vomit."
Could Flaherty and Hefling have crammed in any more RNC talking points framing? This thing spins so hard the centifugal force will cause it to crack the earth's crust before long.
Let's take it from the top, shall we?
#1: "Narrowly limited missions" is frickin' meaningless in the context of Iraq. The "mission" is already narrowly limited, as our military is at full stretch in Iraq right now. We can't anything more than what we're already doing now, which is to hold on by our bloody fingernails. Does it force Bush to redeploy the troops out of Iraq? No. So this proposed bogus "bipartisan" legislation essentially would allow Bush to do exactly what he's doing right now: Allow our men and women to be sitting ducks for Saudi-financed Sunni insurgents while he and his fellow PNAC Platoon clowns proclaim that it's the majority Shiites and their Iranian co-religionists that are the problem.
#2: 'Bipartisanship' means 'Do it the GOP's way', which means caving to Bush. You can see that the GOP/Media and DC/K Street elites all got the memo from RNC Central Sunday morning. With Anne Marie Slaughter's bit of idiocy serving as their banner, it was "bipartisanship" this and "end the politics of personal destruction" that, yadda yadda yadda. The goal, of course, is to try and cow the Democratic politicians away from doing the right thing and listening, not just to their base, but to the 70-plus-percent of the country that is far more left-wing than the national media lets on.
Our goal, of course, is to remind our Congresscritters just how much the Wise Old Men (and Women) of Washington got and get wrong. You know what to do.
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Duncan Hunter is making me sick on Harball. Keeps calling them democrat leaders. EWWW.
Afternoon, PW.
Did I just hear Spector calling for Abu’s resignation?
Thanks for watching LooHoo (so I don’t have to)
The next talking point will be “responsible withdrawal” as opposed to the Defeatocrat “precipitous withdrawal.”
Typical Republican misbehavior, subterfuge and misrepresentation of the facts. Life goes on. But not for many in Iraq.
R sen ted Steven Home Raided by I.R.S
Allow our men and women to be sitting ducks for Saudi-financed Sunni insurgents while he and his fellow PNAC Platoon clowns proclaim that it’s the majority Shiites and their Iranian co-religionists that are the problem.
Yes, yes, yes. The democrats have to pounce on this. With the new documentary coming out, the democrats have to link the Saudi’s role to prolonging this war, and continue educating the public on the House of Saud and the House of Bushies lovefest.
Dang, the Repugs are facing serious constituency issues, eh???
Also, there is no such goddamned thing as a “benign seizure.”
cleter @ 10
Possibly an oxy moron, another one that comes to mind: compassionate conservative
Loo Hoo. @ 3
That’s nice. Let’s see Spector actually back perjury charges against him.
One cannot compromise with the GOP. They look at this as weakness. No compromise and no bipartisanship, Democrats.
cleter @ 10
are you sure about that?
i’m not sure you’re right. care to provide some evidence?
Joe Sestak up next to refute Hunter gibberish on Hardball (Mike Barnicle hosting).
Roberts did have a seizure. Benign and idiopathic. (no known cause)
Via Reddit, this is from “Democracy Now” last March. Wes Clark discovered that immediately after 9-11-2001, there were plans to attack 7 nations, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran. Of course there have been three wars, Iraq, Lebanon and Afghanistan-each has been a disaster and failure.
This does suggest more secrets for Total Information Awareness to conceal. But this is crunchy war crimes evidence for the Hague, when the neo-cons are put on trial.
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So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, “Are we still going to war with Iraq?” And he said, “Oh, it’s worse than that.” He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, “I just got this down from upstairs” — meaning the Secretary of Defense’s office — “today.” And he said, “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” I said, “Is it classified?” He said, “Yes, sir.” I said, “Well, don’t show it to me.”
cleter @ 10
All it seems to mean is that they have not identified an underlying condition. Something caused it. He suffered the seizure first and then fell.
MSM he’s fully recovered….move along…
Liberalism… the ideology that truly couldn’t give a damn about the suffering of the masses.
Starting after WWII with the left’s acceptance of Stalin, through the exodus from Viet Nam and the mass murders perpetrated on the South Vietnamese and the Cambodians, now through to Iraq where you want to shit-can an entire country.
Liberalism left me, I didn’t leave it. How in the word did we come to a point where the attempted liberation of 25 million people from a brutal dictator becomes an illegal immoral war?
Liberalism truly is evil in it’s unintended consequences. I’ll stick with the Neo-Cons thank you. Thank God the adults are in charge.
Roberts suffered a seizure.
Doctors described it as a “benign medical event”.
per the report I heard, FWIW.
Narrowly limited missions like doing some special forces runs in Kurdistan and Iran? Unbelievable.
ON R Sen. Stevens the air waves are reorting ,BUT still not tell its veiwers thats he’s a republican
Get Tough @ 11
Ain’t that the Truth! As I mentioned in EPU land; “…if it drops ya in your tracks, something’s not Kosher!!!” ;-)
And what the heck is up with Mike Barnicle (sp)? He just sat there and let that repuke spew for almost 10 minutes without so much as clearing his throat - every single talking point, every single slur against democrats, every single straw man - they all just sailed uninterrupted and unchallenged into America’s living rooms. EWWW is right!
Never thought I’d EVER say this but BRING BACK TWEETY! Scratch that - put in David Shuster!
When asked about the AG seeming to be working for the president instead of the American people, Duncan Hunter answered that the AG works for the president and for “justice”.
Ahem.
cleter @ 10
Yes there is. I have benign electrical activity in my brain most of the time, but rarely suffer from seizures. And when I do, they are always partial seizures. No permanent damage.
Let’s please not stigmatize people with epilepsy or other seizure disorders.
some medications can significantly lower a person’s seizure threshold.
i think it is possible there is no underlying neurological pathology.
not saying that’s the case today with roberts… just saying i don’t think we know anything for sure yet.
Loo Hoo. @ 3
I couldn’t bear to listen…muted him. I have a problem even looking at the toad.
Benign? They must have some fast MRI’s for justices.
Duncan Hunter=Darrell Issa=Brian Bilbray
LS @ 24
If you’d listened closely, it was ‘Just-Us’!!! ;-)
TexB @ 26
well said.
TexB @ 25
At least they identified, in your case, that there is some electrical activity in your brain.
It’s difficult now for Republics because they spent so many years in plunder-gather mode (thus pleasing their owners, the Bush family). Now that they are exposed and out of power, Republics just don’t know how to behave. I predict that “saving the nation from the evis of pornography” will be a future campaign issue for them
OK, I don’t get it…how can Congress “have the time” to impeach Abu and not the VP or Prez? I thought they told us they were all too busy
passing gassaving the world to impeach.And why does it take more investigating? At best, Abu is a total loser and has wrecked the entire DOJ with his incompetence. When I see that video with him sitting next to Fitz, the contrast is so glaring I have to adjust my TV.
Just asking.
ccmask @ 29
CT scan for that. Done at the ER. Takes under an hour.
Spector would encourage Abu to resign knowing he’s a criminal and could be looking at ten years, I suppose.
selise @ 14
A neurologist told me that. I have family experience with seizure disorders.
LS @ 18
Many things can cause a seizure. Adult onset epilepsy, aneurism, brain neoplasm, metastatic disease.
TexB @ 26
No offense intended, Tex. I have an aunt who has mild seizures–just snarking on the MSM.
I don’t believe in Spector. I’ve been let down too many times.
Bluetoe @ 39
Add medication interactions.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 13
Besides they’ve gone so far ultra right that a compromise would mean very right.
do-si-do @ 35
Well, it took only 5 months or so to tee up Abu. The dems have 1 1/2 years left. It’s a start.
selise @ 33
We’re not stigmatizing, we’re merely cynical about Robert’s true condition, and the MSM’s dubious reporting, Ma’ams’!!! *g*
Just heard about Senator Ted on Air America. Its been an interresting news day. A seizure, A FBI raid, and the start of Abu’s impeachment. I wonder how much will show up on the media news?
My son’s neurologist actually once used the phrase “there’s no such thing as a benign seizure.” The rapid media characterization of it as “benign” seems suspicious, is all. My criticism is aimed at the MSM as well.
TexB @ 42
I have a friend who had a lot of seizures for awhile due to medication interactions.
What they are saying in Roberts case is that right now, and apparently in 1993, they could find no obvious underlying cause. They don’t seem to be very concerned at this point, and I think that is a good thing. I wish the best for him.
cleter @ 47
Benign means the CT showed no damage. Doesn’t mean he does not have a seizure disorder, or perhaps this is his first.
do-si-do, don’t forget Abu is protecting Bush/Cheney. A serious investigation of his works would set the table-HA- for further investigations up the food chain.
I wonder if the dems are going to get the special council to investigate him, and if not, will they do it themselves?
BigKen @ 19
Just a quick question. Who are “the adults in charge”?
Did any of you just see the Hardball Campaign add challenge. Apparently, anyone can produce one. One just went up from Iowa. I wonder if they’ll air any produced for the Dem side.
Ha Ha!
Maybe Ted will have to quit the senate without a little tantrum about his bridge.
TexB @ 49
He had one in ‘93, Ma’am!
Loo Hoo. @ 50
I may be mistaken, but doesn’t the DOJ appoint the special counsel? Ugh.
LS @ 18
Right! Salute you, sir! Ahhhs always obeys ma superiors. Ahhs, knows ma place!
I am sorry but it is too early to say that Roberts had a benign event of any kind. How many hours ago was the seizure and how soon did they come out with a diagnosis of “No Problem”?
“‘Bipartisanship’ means ‘Do it the GOP’s way’, which means caving to Bush.”
Boy, those Repugs sure are fond of putting lipstick on pigs.
Are they thinking that this makes it attractive to Dems?
I hate to be the one to tell the Repugs, but the Dems aren’t into kissing pigs. Seems to only be a Repug fetish.
I guess everyone saw this already from the ArmyTimes last Thursday, but just in case:
1,106 soldiers ordered back to recruiting duty
By Jim Tice
The Army is immediately ordering 1,106 former recruiters back to that duty. The soldiers are being pulled from their current assignments and sent to recruiting stations across the nation as the army struggles to meet its mission in signing up 80,000 new soldiers this year.
I think you can have benign partial seizures, though.
kym @ 52
Purportedly, they accept them all, yet, will they air them all???
Ed Weston @ 47
It shows up. Just plays down.
He may BE fine. It takes less than an hour to do the whole assessment. Even for a non-SC-justice.
OT but has anyone heard anything about Pat Robertson going to Afghanistan to negotiate with the Taliban on the release of the Korean missionaries?
Thank God the adults are in charge.
Yea, the ones who sat the Nam out. Eat shit. I know, don’t feed the trolls, save the key strokes.
I saw McCain’s campaign ad on Hardball labeling Romney as a flipflopper. John, otoh, is straight forward, no flipflopper he! LOL
raven @ 65
I got your back, raven.
Good post PW!!!
I would like to add that I thought the GOP were opposed to “micromanaging” the war. So what’s with the “narrowly limited missions” phraseology? It doesn’t sound any more micro than that.
ITA agree. bipartisanship means doing it the GOP way…
smapdi @ 54
NO!
Mad Dogs @ 58
Pigs with diapers.
smapdi @ 53
Well he’s certainly had plenty of time to remove any incriminating evidence.
Hospital spokesman doesn’t know what a benign idiopathic seizure is. Jeez.
BigKen @ 19
Name one adult NeoCon. I’d like to know who it is. Honest!
Another Tony?
AP - President Bush and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown forged a unified stand on Iraq Monday, aiming to head off talk of a splintering partnership in the face of an unpopular war.
Brown told Bush that he shares the U.S. view of gradually turning over security of Iraq to its own people, based on signs of clear progress and advice from military leaders.
“We have duties to discharge and responsibilities to keep in support of the democratically elected government,” Brown said of Britain’s commitment to Iraq.
Get Tough @ 55
Aah, how soon we forget, Snarlin Arlen, specifically asked Abu whom would appoint, the Solicitor General Clement shall!!! (Who also should recuse himself!) 8-)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 52
He won’t answer that, OK Kiddo. He’s just a typical cowardly little chickenhawk who doesn’t have the guts to enlist.
Benign is a relative medical term.
When congress breaks for their holiday, Gonzales will resign and Bush will arrange for a special appointment for Attorney General, I reckon.
a bit off subject, but skippy took a look at the youtube videos that have been submitted for the repubbb upcoming postponed cnn youtube debate, and found most of them to be thoughtful, weighty and pertinent, making the gop’s penchant for avoiding such questions from citizenry seem even wimpier.
why are the repubbbs afraid of cats on pianos??
marymccurnin @ 71
Pig with diapers? That would be David Vitter, Republican LA
BigKen @ 19
Can this please win for Dangerous & Obtuse Hubris of the day? (D’OH OTD)
ccmask @ 60
How much to they pay? What’s the price these days for a human sacrifice?
Someone at dailykos said it was Grand Mal seizure. No link.
Bluetoe @ 80
Weeeeeeeee weeeeee wwwweeeeeeee! Ya’ll.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 74
What I like about Brown is that he is meeting with the Democratic leadership all day tomorrow, than the UN before heading home. It is a slap in the face to the Bushies. Browns treatment of the Glasgow bombings was trully statesperson like. It was sober, balanced, and really put the country at ease. He was commended from both sides of the Commons.
Duncan Hunter is riding the wave of popularity after Ann Coulter endorsed him.
I believe that bumped him from 1% to a little lower than that.
Dinkan Hunter.
-GSD
skippy @ 79
Dang, Skippy, you’re such a blog-whore!!! ;-)
it’s a little early for Valentine’s wishes - you know: the candy hearts that are marked “benign”
The Chief Justice is at Penopscot Regional Hospital. Will he be treated by Dr. Charles Emerson Winchester III?
The spokesman for the hospital was asked what “ideopathic” means, and he said, “I don’t know.” Which is exactly what it means.
skippy @ 80
I don’t know why Mitt is afraid of talking snowmen…it seems like politics as usual esp. from a guy who says he doesn’t read the signs his supporters hand him to wave.
I’ve seen enough snow-jobbing from Mitt to know what a twit he is. Save yer money for makeup Mitt!
BigMitch @ 89
Idiot.
marymccurnin @ 71
Ok… fess up !!!
How did you get a copy of Karl Rove’s home movies ????
bigken @ 19
i’m sorry, but if stalin is still a sticking point for you, i’d suggest you are far too old to be of any consequence in this debate. not that old people are necessarily inconsequential, but they do tend to wander afield from the point at hand. witness your railing against something that happened before most of our fathers were born, thus having absolutely nothing to do with us. we didn’t embrace stalin.
personally, i’ll see your cambodia and raise a new orleans.
TribeScribe @ 82
When did the US government decide to play “Trading Spaces” or “Try My Life” with Iraq, agreeing that it would be swell to export democracy and import fascism?
cleter @ 38
well, i’ve been told the opposite.
here’s a bit from the merck:
my bold
Mojo @ 93
Oooooh…data mining?
QuakerGirl @ 82
The army if offering $20,000 for quick deployment (within one month). This, together with other incentives could mean $40,000 for some soldiers.
Big Ken appears to be pushing the newly minted GOP/neo-con theme.
Liberals are supporters of genocide.
Of course Ken forgets that Richard M. Nixon was president when the US left Vietnam and Ronald Reagan and Poppy Bush oversaw the lions share of Saddams mass killings.
Let’s not forget John McCain leading the stampede of US troops from Somalia and let’s not forget that right now Darfur continues unabated, with nary a finger lifted by Bush.
Funny stuff Ken.
-GSD
Loo Hoo. @ 97
Which they don’t pay until the end of the deployment or possibly the end of the complete commitment of 4 years.
do-si-do @ 91
i don’t know why any repubbb has a problem with snowmen…they’ve got on as white house press secretary!
Get Tough @ 45
Gonzales is the Presidential Firewall. It makes sense to take him down first. But they should have started that months ago.
marymccurnin @ 91
He looked like a young staffer, who had no clue how to respond to the media crush!!!
Loo Hoo. @ 98
that’s grisly, and sad.