By this time, I'm sure everyone knows by now that John Roberts is in the hospital for what was originally just stated to be a simple fall but is now reported to be a seizure similar to one he suffered in 1993. He's in the hospital for overnight observation; they think he's going to be OK, but.
But.
Up near my parents' home in the boonies, there was, until last Saturday, a 20-room mansion. It had seven bedrooms, eight bathrooms, and a grand piano, as well as several precious works of art. It burned to the ground this weekend, and nobody knows why just yet, but it doesn't look like arson. There was a boom like a lightning stroke as the propane tank blew up. It was a sizable tank, so the boom could be heard all the way into town.
Things that seem so stable can, for good or ill, turn to dust at the blink of an eye or a stroke of lightning. John Roberts, who was picked by Bush in part because of his relative youth and health, was supposed to ensure archconservative dominance of the Supreme Court for decades to come. Things and situations we think of as unchanging and permanent can be irreversibly altered faster than we can describe the process.
Something for us all to contemplate.
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zed2?
Nice going Tex!
Everyone get their zeds?
Phoenix Woman @ 4
Everyone get their zeds?
Not so much.
he was off his zeds.
stunning, pw
Thanks for the update and the reminder.
Yes, we are happycampers. Nice post PW. We tend to take things for granted and it is eye-opening when things change from day to day. With the economy the way it is, there aregoing to be a lot of surprised Americans soon.
True, PW. We need to appreciate Today. Somebody ought to write a song…
Are you speaking at YK2, PW?
jayt @ 5
Not so much.
Zedless in Virginia…
Permanence does not exist.
I promise I did not push him down the stairs. ;-)
I would have been first but TexB pushed me out of the way. I felt like I was going after the bridal bouquet.
Remember me, ccmask? I was the “always drunk and never a bridesmaid” girl behind you angry that I didn’t get to do it!
Loo Hoo. @ 9
Nah, can’t make it. Are you going to attend?
LS @ 11
That will always be true.
KayInMaine @ 12
What are they saying about this up in Maine? It seems like this might become a more common occurence as one gets older.
Unexplained seizure - that doesn’t sound good. I’ve known a few people to have them - in the cases I knew they resulted from a head injury many years before.
Never knew them to be fatal on their own, just more of a nuisance really.
From Talking Heads’ “Making Flippy Floppy” (1983):
Amazing how accurate it still is.
The reason I found this quote today is that, lately, I’ve been thinking a better nickname than ‘Fredo’ for Gonzales would be: Slippy Sloppy.
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Joe Klein’s conscience @ 17
They’re reported it no different than what’s been seen on the cable news stations. I had never known where Port Clyde was. Apparently it’s 90 miles north of Portland. Huh. See? I learned something new. ;-)
did anybody ever confirm the “foaming at the mouth” report?
KayInMaine @ 14
How could I forget! You were pushing too.
Life is truly fragile, just as PW says. I have my stories, and I’m sure others have theirs.
While I strongly opposed Roberts appointment to the Court, and certainly abhor his influence on its direction, I wish no ill will and hope he’s okay. Just let him take some extra time off to be sure he’s well.
Loooooooong time!
Yes. As has been pointed out in the past, nine is not a sacrosanct number for the Supremes. Before 1869, it was often around seven and once was as high as ten.
Yupper. I was originally going to run with a post I’ve had in the hopper for a couple of days, but I wanted to address this bit of breaking news in what I hope is a sensitive and proper way.
JGabriel @ 19
how. did. we. get. here?
I got this email today from The Real News. This news channel looks great. Isn’t this what we’ve been hoping for? An independent news source. The little video trailer is awesome. www.therealnews.com/
Anyone know about this? Good? Bad?
Just watched the Abrams report on the Conn. home invasion story and them see this post..weird.
KayInMaine @ 12
Daily Kos pushed him down the stairs.
GMFORD @ 18
That’s exactly right. Seizures alone usually aren’t deadly…it’s just when and where a person has a seizure that makes it that way (driving car, walking down the stairs, vomiting in mouth while sleeping).
As someone who’s lived a somewhat normal life for well over 30 years after my diagnosis of epilepsy at age 31,I can only say: don’t count on him being out of a job just yet, folks. It’s amazing what pills can do.
Experience tells me the goddess is going to need to use a bigger lightning bolt to rid us of this fool.
Back to lurking…
Breaking!!!
FBI found series of tubes under Ted Steven’s home!
KayInMaine @ 14
*Swoons*
Someone knows my type.
TexB @ 1
Congrats, Ma’am, just got back from dropping my Teeny-Boppers at the Bowling Lane!!!
JGabriel @ 31
It’s happened more than once I’m afraid. LOL
We, as a country, need to re-think about giving federal judges tenure for life. Yes, as a lawyer, I understand the argument. But today, life is long, and the clockspeed is fast.
Another one bites the dust.
Two more lying Nutcase Judges to go, Karma don’t fail us now!
My son has seizure disorder. He was not born with it, but started having seizures seemingly out of nowhere.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 17
Watch it chump - he’s only 52.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 17
I didn’t know that getting pushed down the stairs becomes more common as you get older. Maybe those around us finally wise up. *g*
Steve-AR @ 26
The weird thing is; I’ve never heard of a “home invasion”.
Phoenix Woman @ 15
Darn it. Yes, I will be there and can hardly wait!
punaise @ 21
I thought Cheney’s battery replacement went fine?
Frank33 @ 27
it’s O’Reilly’s fault. Roberts mistook “bluster” for “balluster”.
LS @ 39
Home invasions are unfortunately becoming a more common crime lately.
alice liddell @ 29
I had epilepsy from age 2 to age 19. I’ve been symptom free for 20 years. Not sure why.
I wonder if a large humongous rock rolling down the side of a mountain and into the road as he passed might do the trick?
Loo Hoo. @ 9
While the blossom still clings to the vine….
Jonathan @ 34
I can live with the lifetime tenure. My problem is that the confirmation process and custom makes it way too easy to confirm extremists.
Judicial nominees should require a much broader consensus (i.e., 2/3 supermajority) and no presumption of presidential prerogative. At least in theory, this should result in a lot of highly qualified, moderate judges who will make decisions based on their honest interpretation of the law.
In practice, it’d probably result in wingnut judges every time we have a Democratic president…
If it is any consolation, I’m pretty sure the really scary stuff such as stroke or a tumor have been eliminated as causes, which is why they are calling it idiopathic. Sometimes knowing what isn’t causing something like this is more important than knowing what is.
It wouldn’t hurt to keep him and his family in our prayers just in case. I may not like his politics, by my heart go out to his family. These kind of things can be terrifying, especially for the children.
punaise @ 42
Uh, he fell on the dock. Hadn’t gotten his landlegs back. /snark
LoudounLib @ 43
I thought it was called burglary.
LoudounLib @ 43
Well, see, if the home next to yours attacks the United States…
Eli @ 41
I find a little irony in the fact that many Neocons have heart problems! Kharma is such a B*tch!!! Hell hath no fury…!!! ;-)
CTuttle @ 51
I think you may have your causality backwards.
Eli @ 52
Doh!!! *smack*
Eli @ 46
I buy the 2/3 argument. But I think the best protection for the American people is not life tenure. If 10 years is too short, make it 20.
tbsa @ 36
How old is he? My daughter had febrile seizures when she was 2-7 and then outgrew them. The first three were caused by rapid high fevers, then she had one when she was really mad, and another when she was terribly embarrassed. Nothing since, and no after affects.
Jonathan @ 54
I would be okay with both. I find it painfully ironic that the system that was supposed to insulate judges from political considerations has had the exact opposite effect.
Eli @ 52
Yeah, the problem with judging someone else’s kharma is that in the act of judging their kharma, you create your own.
I think Roberts went on vacation, relaxed and forgot to take his x*n*x.
Happened to me once and when I came to everyone was still crying but had given up on finding a pulse. I also permanently screwed up my left shoulder during the fall/seizure. Sure wish I had the money for a decent attorney now that I look back years later, still disabled physically.
Doctors never warned me of this possible side effect nor did they apologize when I reminded them of it.
If the fall didn’t cause other problems and the seizure didn’t kill him on the spot he will probably be fine since he has job security and health insurance.
I am glad that he had superb medical attention and excellent coverage. Perhaps someday he’ll be in a position to decide that every American should have the same kind of coverage providing the same speedy recovery.
LS @ 57
Actually, I meant that their hearts aren’t bad because they’re neocons - they’re neocons because their hearts are bad.
Jonathan @ 54
I’d like to see an analysis. I think the fact that they never have to look for a job again has made many of them listen to their consciences more closely. (Assuming they had one to begin with.)
Somehow, and I don’t know why, but I’m reminded of Woody Allen’s “Everyone Says I Love You.” Specifically, the kid who was politically conservative, until they discovered near the end of the film that he had a tumor in his head.
Once it was removed, he became a liberal.
If something is neuroligically wrong with Roberts, it could explain his political beliefs and SCOTUS opinions.
Prairie Sunshine @ 45
I’ll taste your strawberry, I’ll drink your sweet wine.
LS @ 11
Amen…
I hope we are better than the haters on the right who are constantly wishing our side ill. I really wish the best for Judge Roberts and his family.
Just wondering, if it is epilepsy, will anti-seizure medicine effect his job performance?
My son is Bipolar I, he’s experienced grand mal and petit mal seizures for quite some time! He is currently on some serious anti-seizure meds!!!
Veritas78 @ 59
I’m sure he will. And he’ll decide the exact opposite.
Roberts will probably be fine- each seizure kills brain cells- and he started OUT as a gooper- but he’ll be able to hang with Thomas in any event.
I am unwilling to wish injury on Roberts or Alito or Thomas or Scalia.
An inability to continue on the SCOTUS for some reason would suit me just fine.
Just as a Democrta takes office would be good.
LS @ 57
Ohhmmmm… So true!!! A circular process!!! *g*
Couple of things -
1. In Australia judges have mandatory retirement at 70, which seems to work pretty well. If they are on the bench I think it is 10 years they get a pretty good pension too
2. We already have a super majority requirement for judges - 60 assuming the dems don’t go all weak kneed at the threat of the “nuclear or is it nukular? option
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this is civil, BillO
KayInMaine @ 28
Could Roberts be under such pressure from, oh I don’t know, elements in the GOP to be a good gaulieter as opposed to caring about his place in history or the sanctity of our Constitution?
Maybe in conversations with the criminals running this government he has shown some balls and actually stood up to them.
I’m not defending this ideologue, just trying to understand what might have given him a seizure while he’s supposed to be on vacation.
If anyone else has Netflix, you have got to read all of the reviews for the movie “Giuliani Time.”
Here’s one of them:
Rent a hall, reserve a a basement, throw a house party and show this doc to as many people as you can! Give door prizes and free food and drink to draw anyone who has a heroic impression of this man. After viewing this excellent movie, only the most demented could consider him for President or any other position with any power.See a naked emperor who is uglier even than his sins. I am ashamed to be of the same species as Rudy!
It’s my hope that Roberts didn’t have to wait 2-3 hours to be seen when he arrived at the hospital like the rest of us have to. /end snarky comment
Mutant Poodle @ 68
It’s not like they’re going to grow consciences and walk away.
Maybe Soros could offer then a $50 million retainer to come work for him or something…
For the benefit of Justice Roberts (and everyone,actually),it seems appropriate here to cite the Buddhist evening gatha:
“Let me respectfully remind you,
Life and death are of supreme importance.
Time swiftly passes by and opportunity is lost.
Each of us should strive to awaken.
Awaken! Take heed!
Do not squander your lives….”
May he awaken and realize the Way.
Pachacutec @ 23
Hi Parachutec!
Say, we haven’t seen any of your ads for a while. I thought of a slogan for ya:
FDL, four out of five citizens recommend it to fight Truth Decay.
The Roberts story just illustrates that health problems can come without warning (like the post above explains). All the more reason for good health coverage. (looks like Veritas beat me to it, at comment 59!)
Eli @ 60
Sorry Eli, I was actually referring to the snark that neocons have heart problems due to kharma…which you were responding to…I hope that makes more sense.
Prairie Sunshine @ 45
“I’ll taste your strawberries, I’ll drink your sweet wine…” I still remember that from my college years.
do-si-do @ 77
good one!
KayInMaine @ 74
How efficient is Penobscot Med Center??? :~)
petedownunder @ 70
I think they’ve already proven their cowardice on that score, plus I’m not sure 60 is enough when you have wankers like Lieberman and Prior and the B. Nelsons.
Tin foil hat time for me….does anyone find it suspicious that Arlen(THE LOSER) Specter was talking about going over Roberts transcripts from SJC confirmation hearings, then Schumer fires a shot over the Bushies bow about NO NEW Confirmations, and says in a speech that it was a mistake to confirm Roberts…Now Roberts has a seisure…I hope Roberts is ok but as DiFi said…Something is Rotten in Denmark………If we see Roberts resign for health reasons….they got something on him,that perhaps someone leaked etc. etc.
I don’t know I am so suspicious of everything that goes on in DC these days…this doesn’t smell right…too many coincidences!!!
ccmask @ 73
I had to tell cops under my command not to use that term in my precinct when Giuliani was first elected. They were ecstatic, thinking that it was open season on the people we were supposed to be serving and protecting.
LS @ 78
snharkma is a b*tch
LS @49 — generally speaking, a burglary is when a home or business is broken into, items are stolen, and no physical harm comes to the residents or workers at the business. A home invasion is when suspects break in, tie up and terrorize people in the house or business, and steal items. The Conn. home invasion is an extreme example.
*I work with law enforcement and we see these all the time.
james @ 72
Stress can cause a seizure and if I was in his shoes knowing full well who my friends are (in his case the criminals in the White House & beyond) and knowing what I was doing against the American people (surprising Gonzo doesn’t have a seizure every hour!), I would have probably seized by now. LOL
Besides…
Everyone knows that if a criminal wants to escape the feds (or even the angry masses), especially if they’re from out of state (you’d be surprised who our State Police have found up there in them woods!), they hide out in the Maine woods. We have 1.3 million people here in our very large state, but it’s the trees & the woods that dominate. ;-)
punaise @ 80
Punaise, I’m blushing! coming from you!… :)
do-si-do @ 77
Which reminds me of another dental slogan which could be slightly modified to: “Ignore the truth and it’ll go away.”
Giuliani_Is_Tsouris @ 76
Too much to pray for??? ;-)
…from your mouth to God’s ear.
CTuttle @ 81
Apparently quite good….he got in in minutes once he hit the mainland from the private boat he was brought over on!
I need to get me a private boat to get any action around here.
Caio. See you guys later!
I’ve got to go too. Nite nite all! ;-)
do-si-do @ 88
Certainly, High Praise Indeed!!! ;-)
Howdy y’all
Loo Hoo. @ 55
He’s 21 now. Started having them when he was 8. He still has epiliptiform waves on his EEG, although with the aid of medication he’s not seized in 10 years.
Nite, CC and Kay!!!
Phoenix Woman @ 79
GordonM @ 61
I agree about the consciences. The thing is, any of these justices can get a high-paying job any time he or she wants to leave the Court. The only reason to stay on the Court is to impose one’s own view.
Ooops, I’m still blushing, now with foot in mouth! Hey Pachacutec, I’m still learning to spell your name, o powerful and wise mod! Sorry!
CTuttle @ 95
oh, come now…no arbiter here :~)
(I just wish I’d thought of it.)
I wish neither good nor bad for Roberts. He’s on his own.
SnarKassandra @ 96
Howdy-Doody, Missie!!! Some sunshine today???
There is a type of seizure disorder where the seizure can result in death. Also some people have one seizure after another which can also result in death without medical intervention to stop the seizures.
CTuttle @ 104
Yep! :)
do-si-do @ 88
Well, do-si-do, it is really clever!
behindthefall @ 103
Um, from salt-marsh Yankee to Texan?