Been wondering why you're paying $3.00 a gallon -- or more -- lately? The main reason, according to Jad Mouawad of the New York Times, is because there's a bottleneck in US refining capacity, which means that the least little disruption causes higher prices:
There have been blazes at refineries in Louisiana, Texas, Indiana and California, some of them caused by lightning strikes. Plants have suffered power losses that disrupted operations; a mid-size refinery in Kansas was flooded by torrential rains last month.
American refiners are running approximately 5 percent below their normal levels at this time of the year.
''You have a system that is taxed to the limit,'' said Adam Robinson, an energy research analyst at Lehman Brothers. ''This is what happens when spare capacity is eroded.''
Ah, but why is that spare capacity eroded? We find out one key reason in the very next paragraph:
After Hurricanes Katrina and Rita disrupted the nation's energy lifeline almost two years ago, oil companies delayed maintenance on many of their plants to make up for lost supplies and take advantage of the high prices. But, analysts say, they are now paying a price for deferring repairs.
Oh, but we're not supposed to blame the oil companies' greed for any of this:
Some critics of the industry have theorized on Internet blogs that the squeeze on gasoline and other refined products points to a deliberate effort among oil companies to bolster profits by keeping supplies tight. But experts point out that the companies have little incentive right now to hold back on fuel supplies.
''Every refinery would like to run as much crude as possible, but they simply can't,'' said David Greely, senior energy economist at Goldman Sachs, who in a recent report compared the drop in domestic refining to an ''invisible hurricane.''
Oh, really? Then how do you explain this piece of news, from earlier this year:
Chevron exec: Ethanol means no new refineries
Investment doesn’t make sense, despite U.S. need to import gasolineWASHINGTON - A top Chevron Corp. executive said Tuesday the push to displace as much as a fifth of the country's gasoline with ethanol will make it less likely the industry will build new domestic refineries.
"We'll take all the ethanol that corn growers produce. We'll use that enthusiastically" as a 10-percent blend with gasoline, Peter J. Robertson, Chevron's vice chairman, said in an interview with The Associated Press.
But Robertson, the No. 2 executive at the country's second largest oil company after Exxon, said he questions whether a goal of a 20-percent reduction in gasoline use, largely by substituting ethanol, can be achieved by 2017 as President Bush has urged.
[...]
When asked if the company might invest in a new U.S. refinery, Robertson had a quick answer:
"Why would I invest in a refinery when you're trying to make 20 percent of the gasoline supply ethanol?"
And it's not just Chevron's Robertson saying this, either. Here's an article from just last month:
Only last year, the Energy Department was told that refiners, reaping big profits and anticipating growing demand, were looking at boosting their refining capacity by more than 1.6 million barrels a day, a roughly 10 percent increase. That would be enough to produce an additional 37 million gallons of gasoline daily.
But oil companies already have scaled those expansion plans back by nearly 40 percent. More cancellations are expected if Congress passes legislation now before the Senate calling for 15 billion gallons of ethanol use by 2015 and more than double that by 2022, say industry and government officials.
"These (expansion) decisions are being revisited in boardrooms across the refining sector,” said Charlie Drevna, executive vice president of the National Petrochemical and Refiners Association.
With the anticipated growth in biofuels, “you're getting down to needing little or no additional gasoline production” above what is being made today, said Joanne Shore, an analyst for the government’s Energy Information Administration.
And of course, those of us with memories that go back at least six years remember all too well the similar-sounding excuses used to explain why so many power plants were taken offline back in 2000 and 2001, and why energy costs were shooting through the roof even though demand was not, as Dick Cheney's buddies at Enron and other companies were busy raping the state of California and other places foolish enough to deregulate their public utilities.
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Really like the format, really like Cooper Anderson as a moderator. Still not one question about one of the most critical issues in the middle east…How would any one of these candidates deal any differently with the Israeli Palestinian conflict than previous Presidents?
Zed
Hair!
Hi PW,
sorry you have to compete with the debate!
Excellent post, PW!!! The rich get richer…
Hi everyone, getting here late I guess…
Hey Fire Pups, thanks for watching the CNN U-tube debate with me tonight and sharing your opinions. I appreciate the opportunity to read your comments.
There was a refinery fire in Indiana? News to me. The only refinery I’m aware of here is Rock Island, and if there was a fire, it must not have been much of one. Invisible hurricane, indeed.
fwiw, best line of the night might belong to ACooper. Each candidate asked to say something about the person to his/her left - Kucinich says there was no person to his left.
AC - “Not sure we could find anyone to your left”
Credit where due.
This story caught my eye yesterday.
There was a good post up a dKos over the weekend.
it’s more then this, I don’t have the links but a while back frankin had on his show some of the experts telling us that as big oil consolidated to mega oil they turned down the most prolifica and profitable refineraries
and what about selling OUR oil on the open international market?
WHAT THE FRIG IS UP WITH THAT???
that’s OUR oil, it’s NOT the oil companies oil, they RENT THE RIGHT TO REFINE AMERICA’S OIL, it is a NATIONAL ASSET, a NATIONAL RESOURCE and they have NO bussiness acting like it’s their stuff
IT’S OUR STUFF AND I WANT MY STUFF BACK
I DON’T want them selling it overseas GA DAMN IT
American oil BELIONGS IN AMERICA, not on the international market
PERIOD
jayt @ 9
And credit to Dennis, who responded (para) “You won’t find anyone more mainstream than I am on health care and Iraq.”
There are many ‘Enrons’ still with us. And these guys call it capitalism. Well yes. If that means “whatever the market will bear”. I call it greed. There will be a breaking point. We just haven’t gotten there yet.
CNN in spin room:
“This debate looked like Gladys Knight and the Pips. It was Hillary head and shoulders above everyone else.
“Obama looked inexperienced.”
The focus group had it, Obama, Biden, Edwards in that order. (????!!!)
Record breaking oil profits
http://www.consumersunion.org/.....01086.html
TeddySanFran, remember this question?
You gotta make a YouTube of it for the GOP debate in September.
Hi PW — great post. The only way to undertake honest conversion from a fossil-fuels-based economy to the next economy is by nationalizing the oil companies as a national security asset. The profit motive will never allow us to move off petroleum, and we will see Mad Max scenarios soon if we don’t.
Thanks for this post — I’m always shocked at the heartless market manipulation by oil executives, but that’s capitalism for ya.
JayT, Rock Island has been closed for a while. Amoco has a big one up in Whiting (Da Region) and I think that’s where the issue was.
Kathleen @ 16
and yet the maggots in office saw fit to give them the largest tax giveaway in global history…on the back of the largest profit in the entire history of planet earth
what the FRIG is wrong with Americans that sit by and allow these maggots to give away our stuff,our parents, stuff, our kids stuff and our grandkids stuff
to people so wealthy they will never ever spend it
I tend to think that not adding capaicty was the right decision. We should not be investing in more petroleum processing capacity. And a consequence of that is higher profits. Windfall profits in fact. That sort of thing happens when there are structural economic changes. So where are the windfall taxes? That is the missing piece.
perris @ 19
Lulled to sleep by American Idol and Paris Hilton going to jail…
Should we expect the oil industry to pay for their mistakes? They can’t be responsible for keeping these things working if they aren’t getting the kickback checks. Why would anyone expect them to keep their refineries working and fully functional?
Throw them a bone here. The billions they are getting in tax breaks and royalty free leases on oil producing grounds just aren’t cutting it if you expect them to have gas when you need it. What are they paying their pet politicians for? Have to stop this kind of talk or they will purchase your contract too.
realworld @ 20
**DING!!!**
Air is higher too. My local gas station just raised it a quarter.
We are a debtor nation, foreclosures and bankruptcies are at record highs and we save practically nothing. Many of us now have to buy even our groceries with plastic and can barely keep up with the interest payments. And still, Americans can’t figure ‘it’ out.
WHY build more refineries if the flow of oil is going to slow down in the coming years? Makes no sense to prepare refineries that will never see full capacity. Wake up, folks.
Twisted Martini @ 18
JayT, Rock Island has been closed for a while. Amoco has a big one up in Whiting (Da Region) and I think that’s where the issue was.
Oops.
Guess that’s why I didn’t hear about any Rock Island fire. (slinks off to corner for self-imposed time-out)
realworld @ 20
Interesting point.
Elizabeth Edwards looking very well.
Iron skunk @ 26
Especially when it means that you’ll also make lots and lots of money.
In the early 1980’s an article in the Wall St Journal indicated the oil companies would be reducing refinery and storage capacity to “Take advantage of short term price fluctuations, and reduce environmental regulations”. Seems like the strategy is paying off.
Iron skunk @ 26
Because without more refineries the refineries we have must operate at full capacity all the time. This causes downtime and disruptions. It is like when the airlines tried to squeeze the last dollar from the transportation system (to give the execs their big bonusses.) Now there are few empty seats, but stuff happens and people are unhappy about delays and lost luggage.
No worries JayT, you can come out of your corner.
I assume we all remember how, when W was running in 2000, how he said he could keep oil prices down by chatting with his buddies the Saudis? Yeah. Right. SUURE….
Sangemon @ 29
Iron Skunk, You almost have it but you miss the real point. See 20.
Ed*ard Teller @ 29
well, we shouldn’t be investing in a NEW refineries, the old ones shoudl do just fine, and IF THEY KEPT OUR OIL IN AMERICA WHERE IT BELONGS there would be far less of an issue
Hillary Clinton/Elizabeth Edwards, anybody?
Just sayin’.
As an eCAHNomist & an environmentalist, I favor high gasoline prices, which dampen demand.
If you’re worried about the regressive nature of high gasoline prices, the appropriate response would be to give low income families an income tax rebate. Now I know that won’t happen, but just thought it was worth knowing what should happen.
What in the world did Americans think they were going to get with eight years of Cheney and Bush? A drop in the price of gasoline. I mean the Bush and Cheney family financial interests were well known before 2000. And the Cheney/Bush derivation of wealth was certainly obvious by 2004.
CHuck @ 31
exactly
this strategy is almost definately in the minutes of cheney’s “let’s steal the national treasure of Americans” meeting he had behind closed doors with these oil
magnatesmaggotsI wish car insurance was added in with the price of a gallon of gas. It sure would be a good way to get rid of uninsured drivers.
eCAHNomics @ 37
Tax rebates for low income folks help but you need to get the revenue for it somewhere. How about windfall taxes?
BigMitch
Can you give me that link again, and I’ll take a look?
We need a Marshall Plan to free ourselves of fossil fuels, and all the national security risks incumbent upon our complete reliance upon fossil fuels.
We would not be at war in Iraq if oil wasn’t in play.
If there were other alternatives for power generation that were sustainable, we wouldn’t be arguing with North Korea and Iran about their need for electricity based on nuclear technology.
We would not be beholden to the Saudis and juggling that relationship against other relationships in the region.
We would not be in another global Cold War for energy, competing this time with Russia and China for the spoils with entire continents at stake.
We might be able to have a real democracy once again, not in thrall to the power of the fossil fuels industry.
And our children and grandchildren might inherit something besides massive debt and a dying planet.
While I am incredibly angry at getting screwed by the oil industry, I am angrier that our elected or appointed officials do not have the spine and moxie to set a Marshall Plan in motion.
And I’m incredibly pissed that the one man who wrote a Marshall Plan back in 1992 as a seated Senator was f*cked out of the opportunity to provide us with a path away from indentured slavery to fossil fuels.
ccmask @ 41
I never heard that idea before, that is EXCELLANT
did you come up with that?
it would also cut down on luxery driving and emisions
I LIKE THAT IDEA ALOT
again, did you come up with that?
eCAHNomics @ 42
Here you go!
Marion in Savannah @ 33
Yeah — chatting and holding hands
The first and most important fact is that there is very little excess refining capacity.
I have a pet theory that may sound odd. It is my contention that gasoline supplies have been higher and prices lower than might be expected for almost the entire length of the Bush occupation. Everyone knows BushCheney are oil guys out to make life good for oil guys. Under those circumstances it was in the political interest of both parties, BushCheney and the oil companies to refrain from taking full advantage of their market power.
The vast majority of the people don’t much care if the constitution is used as toilet paper by powerful white guys but raise gas prices a dime and they get pissed off. In a general way I think the refiners have been keeping the pedal to the floor on gasoline production as a favor to Bush. If Gore had taken the White House I suspect most of the country would have had a California crisis in the period of the first term.
The lack of maintenance is now I think having a cumulative effect. In addition since BushCheney are on the way out the need to give them cover is disappearing.
I can’t prove this at all.
More importantly it is high oil prices which account for most of the high gasoline prices. Prices are high, and they should be. Total world oil production has not exceeded the production of late 2005 . Consumption is up I think 4% since then. One can and should be an agnostic on if we are at peak oil, or a production plateau. The inarguable fact is that the supply demand equation is almost certainly going to be tight for the foreseeable future unless there is a significant global economic contraction.
RonD @ 36
Hillary Clinton/Elizabeth Edwards, anybody? Just sayin’.
I was just about to mention Eliz Edwards as a possible V.P. candidate.
I find that I’m disliking Hillary less, the more I see of her, but the fact remains that she is a one-woman GOTV campaign for the Repubs.
Higher petroleum prices also make R&D on alternative energies a much more feasible investment.IMO, that is possibly the most important long-term effect of high dino-fuel prices.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 38
LBJ used to say he could never be elected Preznit because people associated Texas with oilmen.
realworld @ 41
Yep. If oil cos. aren’t going to build refineries, i.e., not reinvest their high profits, I have no problem making a social decision to raise their taxes. I am not an expert on oil ind. taxes, but I believe they make out like bandits with things like depletion allowances & other industry specific gimmicks. In general (one of those all-other-things-equal things) it makes most economic sense to tax everything at the same rate, so perhaps we don’t need a windfall tax on oil companies. Maybe we should just tax them like other corporations.
Carter was right, way back in the seventies. If we had followed his directive to develop alternative energy then, we wouldn’t be in this mess today. We would be free from it by this time and no one would be starting wars now to profit off of the last precious drops of the polluting crap that are left.
perris @ 44
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we would add to that personal insurance if we wanted it…fire theft, and extra liability could be added if the base didn’t cover our assets
this is REALLY a good idea, why hasn’t this been floating around?
Oh, Anderson saying that debates should continue having “people” contribute questions!! I guess he’s bored paralytic with the old format too.
And what Rayne said back around comment 43.
perris @ 44
Yeah, it was my idea. I’ve been talking to all my friends about it for 2 years.
Oh, looky — A commentator (sorry I didn’t catch his name) implying that the American people are smart. How refreshing!
do-si-do @ 4
No problem! I was late anyway.
ccmask @ 56
Single-payer car insurance, brilliant!
I have to tell you, PW, I don’t read these articles the same way.
1. It makes perfect sense for the refiners to push for maximum output during periods when their outupt is priced high. That’s exactly the response you’d want. We’d be upset if, instead of maximizing supplies, they were withholding supplies, to drive the price up even higher. What happened was not a problem.
2. It also makes sense for investors to stop building more refinery capacity if there is a substitute supply that doesn’t use the same refining capacity — i.e., ethanol. No rational investor would put more money into gasoline production if the composite demand for gasoline was likely to be pushed down by substituting ethanol. Again, I don’t see anything nefarious here, as least from this information alone.
3. The California electricity crisis is very different phenonomen, and much misrepresented by some of the worst industry hacks in the business. There was a host of reasons for that mess, only one of which was deliberate withholding (and illegal exercise of market power) but that was likely not the most important reasons for shortages that drove up wholesale spot prices. State regulators greatly exacerbated the situation when they forced the utilities to stop paying independent suppliers who literally could not buy fuel, and so they shut down. The Governor’s office made things worse — and all of this came on top of a severe drought that eliminated much of the hydro power at a time when the substitute — gas-fired generation became very expensive because of high gas prices — etc, etc, etc. Cheney/Task Force had virtually nothing to do with this. It’s a convenient scape goat for one of the most incompetent commissioners of the California Public Utilities Commission.
4. Enron contributed to some overcharging, but their actions were a relatively small part of the problem. Enron owned no power plants in the West, so they had limited ability to manipulate gross prices via withholding; however, they did manipulate congestion payments by submitting false schedules that made it appear transmission lines were overloaded when in fact they weren’t. Enron made tens of millions, but the other factors caused billions in price increases.
this was a stupid attack on Hillary by CNN (re: Congress should not get a raise until minimum wage goes up.)
Marion in Savannah @ 54
AC360 did a great job, I thought. He was polite but firm with “time,” good humored and asked people to answer the question posed. Plus he’s easy on the eyes, which I can’t say for Tweeety.
perris @ 53
Hawai’i State legislature had bandied the idea in several different sessions within the past couple years, yet, Big Oil and the service station owners pushed back hard on the idea!!!
ccmask @ 56
man, if I didn’t know you better I would make believe I made it up myself
(kidding)
this idea is too good…can you think of any negative aspects?
I think even the insurance industry would clime on board since everything else including added liability would be at a premium.
they could even get a cut of the tax if it cut into their democnstratable profit loss
this could be a platform all by itself for a politician
ccmask, your idea at #40 is truly a great idea. I don’t know how it could be structured, but it definitely deserves serious consideration. Does your state have a decent Insurance Commissioner? Do you have a good congresscritter? Please try to take it further — perris is right.
I had never heard anyone talking about it and it seemed so obvious to me. No gas, no insurance.
I thought Congress just recently took a wage increase, allowable only because they did raise the minimum wage? What’s the attack on Hillary about?
Refreshing questions tonite from USAns, also. Certainly some folks won’t be invited for cocktail wienies, but they weren’t expecting them, so: no harm, no foul.
ccmask @ 56
Cool idea! A little back-of-the-envelope calculation says that would roughly double the cost of a gallon of gas. Do you get the same answer?
CTuttle @ 63
well it would definately cut down on use and sales so I can understandn why big oil doesn’t like the idea
still, we are trying to cut down on our “oil addiction’ and that would sure get mroe people using public transportation
Any big losers in tonight’s YouTube debate?
I recommend Dr. Bartlett’s presentation, Arithmetic, Population and Energy.
http://globalpublicmedia.com/lectures/461
Also, this headline, $100 Oil Price May Be Months Away, Say CIBC, Goldman (Update1) caught my attention today.
… Goldman Sachs’s Currie also notes similarities to a year ago, with global inventories at about the same level and U.S. government data showing an increasing bet on higher prices.
“At face value this market is strikingly similar to a year ago,” Currie said. “What is different? Supply is down a million barrels a day, demand is up a million barrels a day. The market is in a deficit.”
See: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/.....xtV4oWcHk0
BigMitch @ 70
Yeah. Republicans!
wangdangdoodle @ 55
yeah, what wangy said about Rayne @ 43!
srsly, wasn’t it a line from the Matrix
that compared the human species to a virus?
Apparently it is one of our fundamental challenges to prove we’re evolving –
establishing renewable & dynamic homeostasis
instead of consuming/multiplying/obliterating the host.
Similarly, we have to be able to take
things like infrastructure, public education
and public health out of the frame of
“socialism.” More like, self-sustaining!
eCAHNomics @ 51
Sounds good to me!
We wouldn’t even have to raise their taxes — just slash the pork they get would in itself dump a ton of cash into the Federal kitty. But I wouldn’t mind taxing the living crap out of them and putting the proceeds into something like finding uses for sequestered carbon (bike frames, aircraft skins, etc., any place where lightness of weight is desired).
I thought of it when a coworker was upset a couple of years ago because she has a car they rarely use and she has to keep insurance on it. Another coworker got hit by an uninsured driver. So it hit me that if they charged another $1.00 for a gallon of gas, which includes insurance, everyone would be happy. Except the Geico lizard, most likely :))
Want to break the back of the American oil cartel? Ration gasoline. Of course Americans today won’t make that sacrifice today, like we did in WW II.
Marion in Savannah @ 72
actually, if hilary won the debate the republicans will be exhuberant
they think they will smole the elections if hilary is the canditate on the democratic ticket
BigMitch @ 70
I thought Richardson was awkward and ill-spoken. He seemed be very nervous, perhaps recognizing this was an opportunity to break into the top tier. Which he didn’t, in my view.
Hillary was just swell.
I just don’t get the Obama thrill.
Kucinich broke through, I think. I wouldn’t be surprised to see his numbers go up, perhaps at Obama’s expense.
BigMitch @ 70
I love Dennis, but I didn’t think he showed well. The text message thing was pretty lame.
wangdangdoodle @ 52
Few people remember that one of the first things that Ronnie RayGun did when he came to office (after firing all the air traffic controllers) was to cut off all the funding for alternative energy R&D along with stopping all of the programs that were focused on energy conservation. We are in this mess because of him.
From the little I saw, they all did well, but Edwards was exceptionally good.
BigMitch @ 70
The people who think the stodgy old format of questions asked by a “panel of Washington insiders” is the way to go. I hope they all get consigned to a nursing home somewhere, this was much better.
BigMitch @ 45
There’s a name for the fallacy you fell into but I can’t think of the name for it. So regular English, the difference between the U.S. federal government and an individual is that the former has no budget constraint, while individuals do. And it’s even worse than that. The govt analogue to the credit card is both the ability to raise taxes, and the ability to borrow virtually endless gobs. And it gets worse. Large debtors own the bank (in this case, foreign countries like China & India), as it is not in the lenders’ self-interest to damage the borrower.*
So, with all this unlimited ability to spend & spend & spend, what possible pressure could be placed on the feds to spend less. The large deficits early in the Clinton 42 adminsitration, and the ones at the beginning of 44 (Clinton?) serve that functions. And certainly the Clinton surpluses gave carte blanche for W to cut taxes massively & spend like a dry drunk. That’s the thought behind my title. (The report is behind my former employer’s firewall.)
*Which is why Donald Trump was never allowed to go broke.
Oh, Jeez…. Now we’re parsing their wardrobes… and their body language…. Give. Me. A. Break.
ccmask @ 74
It’s a great idea, which I really like. Here’s how the Insurance companies will attack it. They will say we compete by getting the safest drivers, and giving the biggest discounts to drivers like you. Now Big Government wants to take away your right to earn lower rates. Tell them we don’t need Big Government dictating to us what rates we should pay.
Phoenix Woman @ 80
Hear! Hear!!
(can anyone explain what Hillary’s answer was re. 24 years of a Bush/Clinton? people had high marks for her answer but no one gave details…i didn’t have debate on tv. thx)
Marion in Savannah @ 83
What is this crap….”Entertainment Tonight?”
Oklahoma kiddo @ 75
I have a pic of my grandfather who worked for Brewster Jennings right before WW2. He pumped gas for them. In this pic, behind him is a sandwich billboard that declares
“Due to the war effort, this station will close at 5:00 pm.”
He was killed in Italy when the ship sunk. I’ve told this here before. I really need to dig it out and put it up on flickr.
RevDeb @ 78
That’s Saint Ronnie, to you.
I got a mass email from Bonior, Edwards’ manager, earlier today saying he would make news tonite. I missed the first part of the debate. Did John make news? I caught him accusing his opponents of “triangulation” which didn’t sound terribly subtle to me! Nor newsmaking.
RevDeb @ 78
before junior, an easy case could be made for reagan being the worst president ever
now he doesnt’t stand a chance
rosalind @ 86
She said she thought it was a mistake that Bush was “elected” in 2000!
rosalind @ 86
The uestion allowed her to say, “Well, I had a problem with President being elected in 2000, too. And I am not sure he was elected.” or words to that effect.
I asked Lahoma what she thought about the ‘debate’ tonight. She said, “hmmmm”. OMG. This could be portentous. Lahoma doesn’t talk a whole lot. But when she does, I listen.
BigMitch @ 84
the argument will fail since it will be the most basic insurance allowable
we can also allow for redress on tax returns
there would be a formula regarding tickets and accidents and the return would be automatic
simple stuff here