The AP has some analysis of the growing sense of unease sweeping over the GOP Senatorial Caucus. The Fear is nibbling especially at the tiny little souls of Republican Senators up for reelection next year, but it is also starting to gnaw even the fetid innards of the useless Republican skin-sacks who have been installed in Washington permanently because our system is absurdly tilted in favor of incumbents.
You see, the Glorious War in Iraq is not going well and because of that nobody likes The Republican Senators anymore. This is a problem not least because nobody really liked them very much in the first place. Well, people liked John McCain, for reasons that have always rather escaped me, but nowadays he is as highly regarded as, say, Scott Stapp, only without the gravitas. Is a similar fate in store for such Legislative Titans as, perhaps, Norm Coleman, whose ability to portray himself as taking an Unpopular Stand because of his Deeply Rooted Principles is badly hampered by the fact that he is obviously an opportunistic cretin?
But nobody knows for sure what will happen. Only one thing is certain: GOP Senators are not quite the type of people who do a thing because it's right. They do the right thing by accident or when they are compelled, and even then if they are not afforded the chance to engage in moral grandstanding they'll find a way to weasel out of it.
Everything's up in the air. Which is fine, if you enjoy wagering. So let's go through the AP story and I'll do my best to lay out the odds on the key contests.
Senate Republicans are growing increasingly nervous defending the war in Iraq, and Democrats more confident in their attempts to end it.More than a year before the 2008 elections, it is a political role reversal that bodes ill for President Bush's war strategy, not to mention his recent statement that Congress' role should merely be "funding the troops."
Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, made that clear Friday when he dismissed any suggestion that it could be November before a verdict is possible on the effects of the administration's current troop increase.
"September is the month we're looking at," he said unequivocally.
Unequivocally? Mitch McConnell, leaving himself no weasel room? Odds that September is really and for true the cutoff date that will make the GOP Senators cave and vote for a timeline: 20-1, against.
It is not only the mood that is changing among Republicans. So, too, the rhetoric."Cut and run," has largely come and gone as an insult to hurl at Democrats, as Republicans themselves contemplate a change in course.
That's interesting: I have not heard "cut and run" for a while. Hmmm. But the odds that Republicans will give up on the "unpatriotic appeaser" smears are remote: 75-1, against. Logical contradictions have never bothered them before. Why stop now?
In this view, the main U.S. military focus should be on preventing Iraq from falling under terrorist control. One Republican senator, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the shift in talk of a military objective was a prelude to a change to a strategy that would pull U.S. troops back from a civil war between Sunni and Shiites.
This, I bet will happen anyway. We've already seen the rhetoric shift to "eeek, Al Qaeda! Remember them?" The new thing is a sort of Faulkner-cum-Basil Fawlty thing: "Don't talk about the civil war!" 3-1, for.
But focusing attention on al-Qaida raises familiar questions: Were terrorists present in Iraq before the 2003 invasion and what would happen if U.S. forces departed?According to several officials, Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio, and McCain engaged in a brief, impromptu debate touching on that point recently at a private meeting of the rank and file.
Voinovich said the Sunni and Shiites in Iraq would together drive al-Qaida from their country if the U.S. were not there. McCain took the opposite view. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity, noting that the meeting was private.
Odds that Voinovich will be the next spectacular GOP flameout as he flails wildly to look like a Serious Statesman and makes a total fool of himself: 2-1, for.
But here, of course, is where the real hot action lies:
It was only 13 months — and one election — ago that Reid was the one hoping to avoid a vote on a troop withdrawal. Then, Sens. John Kerry, D-Mass., and Russell Feingold, D-Wis., angered Reid by insisting on a vote on a fixed withdrawal deadline of July 1, 2007.Democratic strategists fretted about the impact on senators seeking re-election and challengers to Republicans in swing states.
The plan drew the support of 13 Democrats. Reid was not among them, nor were the Democratic presidential contenders currently clamoring for the support of anti-war voters.
The public, it turned out, was more unhappy about the war than the Democratic strategists understood. Despite their tentativeness, Democrats won control of the House and Senate in an election in which Iraq played a large role.
"Now it's the unified Democratic position," Kerry correctly e-mailed his supporters last week.
Will the Democrats in the Senate hang tough and force the issue come September? Or will they fold?
Can't offer bets on that. See, we're all in the game on that one. It's our job to see that they don't.
And as Pete Rose learned, you don't put money on a game you're in.
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The Dems are not campaigning vigorously now on how much Bush is trying to hide.
the Scooter cover up,
USAs
Political use of administrative positions–now, perhaps, including refusal to permit DOJ discharge its duty to enforce congressional subpoenas.
Use of RNC emails
Warrantless wiretaps
This list goes on….
The public is fed up, but Dems should keep the heat on.
turn up the heat
Have you ever seen his high school yearbook picture,before he got all his cosmetic work done. Priceless, but can’t remember where I saw it. That’s one 2008 race that will prove entertaining.
Turn up the noise! We have to make the average person aware (somehow). I suspect that will require the bottom falling out of the economy, monetary pain always wakes the people up.
eCAHNomics @ 6
Here it is:
http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/.....ight-toker
Alberto’s testimony — responses to some difficult questions that Leahy put in writing, so that AG could not say, “I don’t remember — should get the heat turned up a little. When is that scheduled for?
Evening all. I’m with Wangdangdoodle, let’s put a blowtorch to ‘em. I love the smell of roasting Goopers in the morning!
Evening, DrDick.
While there’s talk, there’s very little action. And the August recess is coming, which will wipe out any momentum that might have been building.
Will Reid have the guts not to adjourn?
Damn It! I want a Bonfire!!! Maybe then our Dems will feel the heat!!!
eCAHNomics @ 6
He got work done and still looks like that?
(picturing him in the surgeon’s office, leafing through pages, saying - “yeah, that one, I wanna look just like Willem Dafoe”!)
Let the Midnight Special
Shine the Light on thee
Let the Midnight Special
Shine its’ ever lovin’ light on thee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuY6pktdUc4
eCAHNomics @ 6
HowieKlein had a post a few weeks ago at DownWithTyranny where he disclosed that he and Norm Coleman had been classmates in school in Brooklyn. He stated that Norm was an a** then and hadn’t changed much iirc.
SplishitySplash………Good evening pups!
dakine01 @ 16
Some people work at being an a**hole, but for others it just comes naturally. It would seem that Coleman is a natural.
Hi, Lolo!
The clincher for me was Dick Mellonhead Chafe (sorry, Richard Mellon Scaife) calling Shrub a moron last week. We now know they are all on the same page (except John-boy McShame apparently), and the storyline will be played incessently across the Conglomerate Media for years to come:
“It was all Bush and Cheney’s fault, not Repubelickins in general! Those two aren’t really Repukes…we are so it’s OK to vote for us now. Really and truly (fingers crossed behind backs…)”
We cannot let them get away with this. It’s already started and will pick up steam. Our Constitutional Crisis, and the hundreds of thousands people killed in Iraq in YOUR name and with YOUR money have been caused by Republicans. Simple as that.
Excellent post, Thers - Welcome to your first nite of Saturday nites at the Lake. I’ll be your moderator this evening. If you need anything, just whistle.
bonkers @ 20
Evidence in support of your point:
Last night on Jay Leno, he said that the last time they did a colonoscopy on W, do you know what they found? His head.
Suzanne @ 21
Let me second that. I’m already a fan of your blog, so this is an extra treat.
You know how to whistle, don’t you?
I hear there is an Impeachment Walk next week. Conyers needs 3 more reps to sign on. YIPPIE!Linky
albert fall @ 4
The dems also need to do a better job of educating the electorate on these issues. In my opinion, one way they can do this is to set some ground rules before they agree to go on the talk shows. They need to state that they will not engage in shout outs with the republicans. If their request is not honored, they need to politely explain that because the ground rules were not followed, they would be hanging up. They need to demand equal time to explain their positions. Let the republicans get together and shout if they think it helps their cause. I think everyone is tired of it and are looking for a more statesmanlike party.
BigMitch @ 9
Tuesday, should be much fun!!
RonD @ 19
Hi Ron D! (((hug)))
Hi all, from my perch on the edge of the Lake
Just imagine — DeeCee Democratic strategists being wrong!! When has that ever happened before?? (looking at you, Shrummy!)
Sorry off topic
So is giving money to the Democratic Party that wants to end the war supporting terroists? How do we know what supporting terroists is unless Bush tells us? Also what are the Democrats going to do about this?
OK, if anyone cares to teach me, how do you embed a link with something written over the actual url?
TeddySanFran @ 30
More to the point, have they ever been right? I’m beginnig to think there is something in the water there. Between the Washington press corpse and the Democratic strategists/consultants/shitforbrains, they all seem to be living in an alternate reality.
albert fall @ 4
What is the President hiding? is an all-purpose question that should get the public’s attention on Tillman, the USAttys, Scooter, wiretaps, executive washroom privilege, and everything else. It’s shorter than Howard Baker’s Watergate mantra “What did the President know and when did he know it?” which lends it to our short-attention-span cultu — ooooh, shiny object!! What was I saying?
Hi Thers!
Suzanne & everypup!
type word you want the linky to be
go the URL of the page you wanna link to and copy the url
come back to the submit comments page, highlight the word and click on the link box.
there will already be a http in the box - delete it - and paste the url and click ok
second box pops up with the word you had named in it - click ok
voila linky
eCAHNomics @ 32
eCAHNomics,
go here It is from Chris Clarke at Pandagon from a few months ago and offers easy instructions on how to write simple html, including how to do the links.
TeddySanFran @ 34
I like that Teddy,
What is the President hiding?
[where are my manners?]
Welcome, Thers, to Late Nite Saturday Nite, a raucus and bawdy crowd if there ever was. You’ll fit right in, you already do. I like your odds-making. Deal?
waves to Elliott
TeddySanFran @ 30
At the same rate as Neocon(or otherwise)Pundits within the Beltway!!!
Yay Thers!!
Hey, Pach! Good to see you are still hanging out.
lolo @ 25
lolo, what a wonderful gift you bring us tonight!
Suzanne @ 36
The Hinky Linky!
Republican’s use “Cut & Run for librals. We need to come back with “Run & Cut” for Republicans, as in they run loose and take their cut.
LoudounLib @ 40
waves back!!
I was sure tempted to push you in, perched there.
Inherent contempt is so dramatic. Arresting the Attorney General, man, it has to make you hold your breath. Let’s talk about what if the Dems don’t have the batzim for this.
So they issue a contempt citation, and send it along to the USA for D.C. to present to the Grand Jury. Per instructions from King Shit-for-brains the USA says “No dice. Not gonna do it.”
Now what: Impeach the US attorney for the District of Columbia. (I’m starting to like this scenario.) Bush says, okay, I pardon Gonzo.
Conyers says, Not so fast, Georgie. Your pardon powers are for crimes against the United States. This is a crime against the House of Representatives.
Fred Fielding starts to feel a little overworked. Meanwhile, AG still hasn’t testified. Now, you got yer INHERENT CONTEMPT.
More work for Fred. Boy it sucks to be a republican.
For the Yiddish challenged: Batzim=cajones.
wangdangdoodle @ 45
rinky dinky hinky linky
Future Breaking News!
year 2010
PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY DESTROYED BY FLOOD
Crawford, Texas — A tragic flood this morning destroyed the personal library of former President Bush. The flood began in the presidential bathroom where both of the books were kept.
Both books have been lost. A presidential spokesman said the president was devastated, since he was almost finished coloring the second one.
The White House tried to call FEMA, but there was no answer.
BigMitch @ 48
fixed ;-)
For those in need of honest reporting and actual facts about the conflict to help rebut McCain and his lies about the reality inside Iraq, there’s this Guardian article from a few days ago about the main Sunni groups coming together politically to oppose both the occupiers (us) and the al-Qaida fighters in Iraq:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/inte.....44,00.html
Hiya Elliot!
eCAHnomics: Copy shortcut of the page you want to link to. Then come back here and click on the LINK button. Paste that link in the box that pops up. The next box that pops up, type what you want the link to read. That’s it. Give it a try.
LoudounLib @ 52
Thers! Welcome to Late Nite,
Please forgive the OT and EPU’d but I wanted to get this out for folks who many not be aware of this site.
Sorry for being OT but are you familiar with The Hunger Site? It is a site where folks can go once a day and click the big yellow button and the sponsors provide food to those who are in need. The front page explains the purpose (scroll down a bit in your explorations).
There are five other companion sites with the Hunger site. After you click the yellow button, they take you to the Thank You page. If you scroll down a little, there is an update of the amount of food provided today. Then there are five more buttons before an update of the total amount of food provided yesterday.
You can click on each button in turn and will be taken to the associated site where another big button is waiting for a click. After the click you get another thanks page.
The other sites are:
The Breast Cancer Site (pink button) that provides free mammograms for poor women.
The Child Health Site (blue button) that provides health care to poor children.
The Child Literacy Site (red button) that provides books
The Rainforset Preservation Site (green button) that saves rainforest land.
The Animal Rescue Site (purple button) provides food for shelter animals.
It takes about a minute to click through all the buttons once a day (on broadband - dial-up can take a little longer obviously) and the small actions can help many others. I do it myself first thing each morning after checking my e-mail. I hope others will join me in making this a regular part of the day.
wangdangdoodle @ 54
back at ya!
LoudounLib @ 51
Actually, it literally mean huevos (eggs) and I think the metaphore is multi-lingual.
Getting 60 votes in the senate is as important as winning the White House in ‘08. Whenever Democrats are on TV, they should make a point of naming (republican) names. Keep repeating those names of the vulnerable republican senators until they become household words. Connect them to George Bush over and over until the average voter equates them with the President and his policies. Keep connecting the republican congress to the White House as one entity, after all it is the truth. The average american voter needs to be just as focused on the second and third lines down on their ballot as they will be with the first line as it is a presidential election.
sorry Mitch
face red, going back up on the banks
All right, let’s see if I can get it to work. Fair is fair; here’s a funny of Al Franken–not from high school though.
Never mind…
Lindy @ 50
Tell me he wasn’t coloring in ‘My Pet Goat’??? ;-)
BigMitch @ 59
In Mexico, huevos (eggs)is a politer colloquialism for cojones. In Sonora, this has come to be the primary meaning and grocery stores sell blanquitos.
eCAHNomics @ 61
Oh well, didn’t work. I’m tired & finishing my first scotch. Will save instructions & try again when I’m fresher. Thanks all.
eCAHNomics @ 61
Try this Lesser-than A space HREF=typeURLhere Greaterthan Al Franken Lesserthan slash A greaterthan.
If you quote a comment there is an example of this kind of hyperlink at the top of your comment.
Just to be clear, Conyers is talking about Kucinich’s articles of impeachment of Cheney.
A proper lady would call eggs blanquillos. I am not a proper lady.
TeddySanFran @ 34
Did you forget torture? :Linky
ccmask @ 54
One problem–no “box” comes up when I click on the LINK button.
eCAHNomics @ 71
what browser are you using and do you have pop-ups disabled?
Nite folks! Have a good un and c ya on the morrow.
eCAHNomics @ 70
I have the cursed Vista and I have to give permission (as you would a blocked pop up) to get the box.
marshen @ 59
It will be a great test of the DSCC to see if they support Mitch McConnell’s opponent with real money. Collegiality always prohibited the opposition’s leader from being targetted, until Thune’s defeat of Daschle in 2004. McConnell is vulnerable in 2008, and Beltway Dems need to lend big support to his opponent. Will it happen?
Night dakine01. Sleep well.
dakine01 @ 72
g’nite
Nite dakeine01.
dakine01 @ 72
Sweet dreams, dakine.
Republican support for this war is based on it being cost free. The war is unpopular and might start costing Republicans their job so now they “care”.
I think we can open up a new front on the cost war. The war costs so much we can nolonger afford to spend more money than France does per person and not insure everybody like the French do for less money.
The free market has been given a chance to be more efficent since Nixion the free market has failed. We cannot afford corporate welfare for rich healthcare CEO’s while our troops are still waiting for armoured Humvees.
How will we pay for this war Grover Norquist and George Bush hopes to use the rising National Debt “to get the Federal Government small enough so that we can strangle it in a bathtub.”
If you look at how the federal government handled the “cough” rebuilding of New Orleans well they have succeded. If this is what the American people want more war and no government for the people then elect a Republican.
If you want the War to end, if you want Healthcare for everyone, if you want the national debt to be paid for and have more money in your pocket thanks to lower healthcare costs, then vote Democratic!
He Pach & all — been putting one of the little ones down.
I said (and it disappeared on my daughter’s Mac) thank you for the great Kos link, lolo.
lolo’s link.
(testing Suzanne’s method for imbedding a link. Didn’t work for me cuz when I went to paste, everything under edit was grayed out.)
Think I might have missed a slash at the end. I’ll try again when I’m fresher-I tend to be a moron about learning such matters. Thanks all.
Wangdangdoodle: I have Vista & I hate that pop up.
Eureka Springs @ 67
Only THREE more! Whose ‘critter will put us over the top? Have you written your ‘critter yet, pups?
Hey Thers, was wondering what happened to ya.
LooHoo, it worked and linked to a DKOS site.
dakine01 @ 72
thanks for the linkys, I’ve bookmarked one for daily use, will cruise to the others everyday as well….
LooHoo, the link itself worked - it took me to the DKos site but there was no story there - you have to make sure you copy the entire URL of the page you want to link to
DrDick @ 43
Don’t be fooled. I’m basically a commenter.
Good evening dear friends. Peanut butter & fudge coolies for all.
Pachacutec @ 89
Well, it is still good to have your perspective. I was afraid we wouldn’t see much of you as you evolve in the Lake.
Been in the lake a lot today. Fingers pruning up. Have to towel off & retire to book & bed. Nighty.
eCAHNomics @ 91
g’nite
Evening, Betsy! How’s Texas these days. Still hot here in Montana, though a little cooler (only in the lower 90s).
eCAHNomics @ 92
Night.
I’ll be busy, but I’m not disappearing. I also think it’s good to bring in new talent, especially people as great as Thers.
Those are COOKIES of course.
Welcome Thers.
Sorry, but I can not bring myself to get too excited about repub politics although I know I should pay attention.
DrDick @ 93
Hot and muggy here. And the rain continues. Never seen rain in July before, and it’s raining almost daily.
TexB @ 97
Actually this time they are a lot of fun because they are all nuts. Watching them trying to be more conservative than the others is hilarious.