The dismissal of the Wilson's suit was a big drag. In his judgment, Judge Bates acknowledges that "the merits of plaintiffs' claims pose important questions relating to the propriety of actions undertaken by our highest government officials." Marcy says:
All of which is a 40-page way of saying what Cheney and Libby and Rove and Armitage did was wrong. But a civil suit is not the appropriate venue to address that wrong. And with Bush's self-serving commutation of Libby's sentence, the criminal courts have been foreclosed as the means to address that wrong, too.
Which leaves Congress. There is abundant evidence already in the public record showing top members of the Administration--including Bush himself--abused their positions of power to rebut Joe Wilson. Some of those actions--including the commutation itself, since it removed Bush from criminal liability for his actions--fit well within the purview of Congress.
It's time to step up, Congress. That crappy hearing last week did much to polarize the two parties. But did little to address the evidence before us, pertaining directly to Bush's potential move to declassify a CIA spy's identity for political retaliation. Two judges who have reviewed the facts agree the actions were wrong. What is Congress going to do about it?
It is hard to imagine that Terry Schaivo could move Congress to such theatrical feats of midnight dramaturgy yet they can't be bothered to do anything about this. Or the war. Everyone has their priorities, I guess.
Meanwhile, John Conyers gives Josh Bolton until 10am on Monday to comply with his subpoenas, which "could result in contempt proceedings, including but not limited to proceedings under 2 U.S.C. §§ 192, 194 or under the inherent contempt authority of the House of Representatives."
Which raises the question -- why isn't Harriet Miers in jail?
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I wonder what Harriet is thinking right about now….
Should I go downstairs and announce?
So why isn’t Ms Meiers being frog marched to the grey bar hotel?
For the same reason Saddam’s sons didn’t do jail time.
Well they died of lead poisoning, or am I wrong again?
QuakerGirl @ 6
Um, because they were orphans? Pls refresh my memory, QG.
Try not to worry. Our time is coming. I can feel it. ;0)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 9
our time to watch the frog march or to be in one?
I keep hearing about a process that needs to be followed….I wish I knew what the process was that is keeping them from being charged with contempt!
You’re right. This is IT! This is the time for the DEMS to stand their ground. America thinks that DEMS are pussies and if we cave in again we’ll only verify, one more time, that we have no spine. If we ever want to be taken seriously, if we want to convince the American public that we’ll fight for them, then we can not back down from this.
My second “zed”! The pups have been notified to come on up.
Great point Jane about the burden being on Congress. I haven’t followed judicial appointments too closely until the last few years. However, my friends who are law school professors have been warning me since the days of Raygun about the Rethugs packing the courts on the lower levels.
After all these years of effort,it’s no wonder so many of their kind is furious that the Dubya/Cheney hubris have revealed what’s been happening.
Just checking in for a little dose of sanity
I’m counting on FDL to keep me informed while I pack and move. Miserable thing to do. What must it be like to have to move out of a war zone!?!
Harriet Miers, Karen Hughes, Condi Rice. George, Dick and Karl. Gawd… the list is long.
Everyone of us would all ready be in jail if we defied a subpoena from congress.
I will never forget one of the weekend discussions by our congress about the Terry Schaivo case. On that same weekend there was an anti-war march in New York and one that I had wanted to make it to in Fayetteville North Carolina. The one in Fayetteville was made up mostly of Military families marching against the war. I could not make it.
Over a two day period I saw the Terry Schaivo footage of her looking at a balloon 93 times and not one moment of coverage of the military families against the war.
{{{{{{{{{{JANE!}}}}}}}}}}
I don’t think Conyers has the stomach for inherent contempt proceedings - I think he’s bluffing.
And even if he does serve up the inherent contempt proceedings against Bolten, I think he’ll go the judicial route for Ms. Miers; after all, she used to be somebody.
Doesn’t make any sense - just my “gut” feeling.
I’ve been out all afternoon and just heard the news about Valerie and Joe’s case. Makes my tummy ache. I have a lot of reading to do to catch up, but does someone have the shorthand answer to this:
Is it all over now, unless Congress acts?
EPU’d from downstairs, but now on topic. Even more relevant now that Jane has told us that the HJC responded to Fielding re: the RNC emails immediately. I believe the HJC has not sent a similar letter about Miers.
Helen @ 170
Because while I was composing the following comment a hot debate was breaking out below (which I didn’t discover until after hitting the “submit” button), and because it was situated right smack at the beginning of EPU territory to boot, I want to re-post this. Hope no one minds. (And hello, dear Jane!) —
In stopping by to wish “Happy Blogosphere Day” to my favorite Ladies of the Lake and their front-page sidekicks — and to every Firepup, past and present, I also come to share my sorrow at today’s events.
You know which events I mean — all the ones that make it (falsely) appear that the Dark Side will win out in its relentless battle to banish Truth and Justice from the face of the Earth.
I’m crying today, but I’m also more committed than ever to hold my head up in resolute determination to speak Truth and demand Justice no matter what, for as long as it takes, even if that should mean the fight extends long beyond the limits of my own lifetime.
I’m buoyed by this community of Justice-lovers and Constitutional patriots, and by communities of Justice- and Truth-lovers everywhere around the globe.
We can only do what we can do — but we must do THAT much, always — and then trust that our actions and our words, little though they may seem individually, will nonetheless form ripples radiating outward to join with the innumerable other ripples of Light and Truth and Justice to form the mighty rivers and waterfalls spoken of so eloquently both in scripture and in the hearts of the civil rights heroes of the past, whose examples we hold close to our hearts for courage:
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Bobby Kennedy
Nelson Mandela
Gandhi
Hans and Sophie Scholl
Martin Niemoeller
Rosa Parks
Desmond Tutu
Frederick Douglass
Susan B. Anthony
Etc. etc.
I’m sure each one of you has names to add to the list. For me, Eleanor Roosevelt is a great inspiration — for she, like me, was plagued with a lack of confidence and bouts of fear; yet she knew it her duty to dig within and find new fonts of courage to forge ahead in spite of fear.
Let’s remember to turn to our role models of the past for our courage in the future.
For just two examples — can anyone say that Nelson Mandela, a man unjustly imprisoned for how many (27?) years or Gandhi, facing down the largest, most powerful, and most heavily armed empire on the planet had it easier than we now do? Washington’s men, suffering frostbite at Valley Forge, wrestling with the fear of being on a fool’s errand which could have them hanged for treason, surely had it harder than we have it now. And yet they fought on.
If you are feeling low, as I have been today — I say, “Courage, Firepups!” and in so saying, I help to lift up my own soul. The road is long and hard, but there is none more worthy of treading than the road to Justice, which leads directly into Promised Land of Peace.
Never say die!
QuakerGirl @ 14
Well, I imagine it involves a lot less packing.
Why isn’t Harriet Miers in jail? Are there voluntary subpoenas? I thought a subpoena, by its very nature, was compulsory.
Yeah, why isn’t Harriet Miers in jail. Cuff her!
Give the whole Plame case over to Leahey and Waxman - then immediately IMPEACH Gonzo, Cheney, Bush….or something…just get something to stick to this Teflon Administration before it is too late.
Grrrr….woof…grrr
Boy I just got online for the first time all day and saw the news about Valerie. As my girlfriends and I said in high school. This place is fuc*ed.
Sometimes I feel like the dems are giving them enough rope to lasso the whole gang. Wouldn’t that be wonderful?
Any word from Larry Flynt?
((Jane!))
I love what Conyers said in the hearing today (hat tip to ThinkProgress):
Conyers is putting his foot down mightly loudly. I’m sure he’ll also be responding in kind regarding the obstruction to prevent DOJ officials from testifying on voter fraud investigations.
Who could’ve thought that the dog days of summer in a non-election year would be so interesting in Washington DC?
argosfalcon @ 10
Actually we are the frog…in the pot…with the heat slowly being turned up. Some of us are more sensitive to the temperature change than (28%) others.
Helen @ 20
Helen You really made me laugh. I admire you for keeping track of all that but I now know why we never know what the heck is going on - it’s the initials! I always have to stop and think about which is what. Thanks for the unintended laugh.
Tithonia @ 3
that George Bush is the dreamiest president ever, and he’ll take good care of her, just like he took care of Scooter, and she doesn’t need to worry about that icky Congress and their cooties.
I don’t work on the criminal side, so I don’t know the particulars behind why Fitz could not discuss his interviews with the Bushies, outside of the fact that it is part of an ongoing investigation. But if that is the case, I would love to see Fitz withdraw the indictment against Libby because the commutation essentially does that, which makes the whole “while under investigation” moot, and have Congress request his testimony.
Alot of procedural hurdles, I know, and I am sure the FDL crew will set it straight. But wouldn’t that be juicy (I loved when someone asked Fitz at a news conference outside the courthouse after the Libby conviction what he thought about Kaqy Hutchinson spewing Rovian crap by saying that she hopes someone is convicted on the merits, and not the cover-up: Fitz–”That talking point won’t fly” in his very Chicago accent, although he is from NY. I love Fitz).
cleter @ 25
I guess only for the White house staff and co-conspirators.
Hmm. Why not Harriet? Is there any chance she’d do a John Dean (John?)? A sort of “This’ll hurt me almost as much as it hurts you, but I am compelled by my conscience…” Nah! Nope. I don’t doubt but that Conyers and Sanchez are not about to squander a court decision on the question of Miers’s contempt. And maybe, just maybe, Josh Bolton isn’t so well connected to “The Boss” that he can expect a Libby-like deal. So, maybe Conyers and Sanchez are aiming under her for now, hoping to get more ammo for when they do take her to task for her contemptuous and contemptable behaviour.
[btw, you, Christie and the others are working so hard, all the time, that it’s more than a little humbling].
cleter @ 25
Total loss of all acquisitions - and hoping your family gets to safety as you exit. Stress, fear, worry, moments of panic, the look of terror on your children’s faces. Mercy!
AP - Iraq is a nation gripped by fear and struggling to meet security and political goals by September, U.S. officials said Thursday from Baghdad, dashing hopes in Congress that the country might turn a corner this summer. One general said not to expect a solid judgment on the U.S. troop buildup until November.
Twain at 29 - I actually made myself laugh and I thought “Oh Gawd, now everyone’s gonna think I’m a bureaucrat” And I’m not! Or at least I haven’t been for 15 years - and I was a local one at that.
Lurkin Mod, am I in your crosshairs for some reason?
$$$$—- Five hundred and fifty billion dollars will have been spent on this unneeded and very devastating war by October posts Think Progress. The Rethugs have made it so there can be few if any social programs or help for the middle class in the next 30-40 years. Sounds like the outcome of a concerted Reagan-Thatcher-Neo-Con plan to me.
OFF-TOPIC, BUT! Have you read Bush’s latest executive order regarding freezing funds of anyone he wants?
The vid at the top. Solid rock and roll. ;0)
I don’t know why I’m torturing myself but Ed Rogers is a lying dweeb on Hardball right now. claiming that the Plame lawsuit is only harrassment and that Bush, Cheney et al should counter sue. I truly wish they would. Those depositions would be awesome
There really is no point in going after Miers or anybody else with ties to Bush for the simple reason that he will instantly pardon them. It will be best to wait till Bush is out of office to go after him and all off his pigs. And thats if the next President doesn’t give blanket pardons like Bush one did. Need to start finding out where the candidates stand on pardoning or prosecuting when they get in office. I bet Hillary would pardon.
Sorry about @34. It belongs to @22. No confusion intended. It just comes naturally :00
dakine01 @ 41
Yeah, I bet Fielding is drawing up the complaint right now. Good one, Rogers.
In the letter to Hillary Clinton from Edelman, he says that the really tough part of the “surge”, the “clear and hold” hasn’t even begun yet, and he really emphasizes how tough it will be. That must be what W was referring to when he said it would be bloody. Edelman references Fallujah.
Well I guess this is what you get when our fearless leader thinks(used rhetorically)that we are not citizens, but merely resident of the United States.
Judy Miller made me very afraid yesterday, when she said “the terrorists only have to be lucky once…” She scares me, especially her frightening articles. Put Judy Judy Judy back in jail and I will be happy again.
dakine01 @ 41
Yes they would, which is why they would never counter sue…they would lose their cover.
Jane hits another home run!
Jane sinks a 3-pointer from ‘way Downtown!
Jane Rocks!
Bob in
HI WIAZPS please see my comment downstairs on Al Gore’s new book.
Tithonia @ 3
hugs n’ kisses, W, xoxoxoxo, don’t forget me in yer pardons
oh.. for amusing reading, here are some actual quotes from Harriet memos
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl.....02545.html
LS @ 45
Here’s the letter:
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-co.....sponse.pdf
Want to throw my switch in a good way? Do music.
Most of these Bush guys and gals will flip sooner or later. Like in tell-all books perhaps?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ORM-bqag1E
Get Tough @ 31
OK - Job 1 - Fitz is a NY’er, from Brooklyn actually, and we are very proud of him here.
To answer your question with a H/T to LHP, Fitz was “asked” and he politely declined. He is required to either get permission (which DOJ will never give) or Congress is required to subpoena him, which they are reluctant to do.
You know, wouldn’t be nice to see Congress pass a couple of amendments (among others): (1) check on pardon powers, with Congressional oversight and no last minute pardons, and (2) singing statements procedural only, like they were intended. That is probably a SCOTUS issue, but who trusts them with that one.
Get Tough @ 54
I really would love singing statements ! What a hoot!
Helen @ 53
We are proud of him everywhere, Helen. A true American.
Mrs K8 @ 21:
Not sure where I saw it earlier today but on one of the blogs or News sites there was a photo of Mandela, Jimmy Carter, and other old time statesman forming a group of senior statesmen to work together on world problems.
wish I could find it for you
Twain at 55 - Right back at ya. BWA HA HA.
Twain @ 55
Yeah, like this one:
I don’t read ‘em, ba baba ba ba
I don’t give a crap, ba baba ba ba
Laws from Congress, ba baba ba ba
Sing me a Statment, and get me a nap!
Have you given to the Wilsons fight for Justice yet? Please spread this around
The Wilsons Legal support Trust
http://www.wilsonsupport.org/
QuakerGirl @ 43
I was not intending to minimize - even though it sounded that way. Snark does not always travel well.
It’s unfortunate that dueling has been outlawed. On a field of honor may well have been the only place in the land were the Wilson’s might have received satisfaction.
Get Tough @ 54
Thing one: Fuggetaboudit. Pardon power is in the Constitution. Thing two: Will you accept an ammendment? Must be delivered with tapdance accompaniment.
Bluetoe @ 62
Oooh, Valerie vs Scooter at dawn, Joe and Dick as seconds. Pity we don’t do that anymore.
well, sorry to blogwhore and go off-topic, but skippy is 43 hits away from 2 million!!
Get Tough @ 56
Not so much me. He let the big fish get away. After his conviction of Scoots, why did he not go after Rove?
I will grant that he has given every indication of being incorruptable, and his methodical takedown of Irv was textbook perfect.
BigMitch @ 63
It’s in the Constitution, but amendments work nicely by curbing certian powers, implied or otherwise, in the Constitution. That’s why they’re called amendments. It won’t happen, but it is one of the major loopholes in the balance of powers that exists.
Singing or Signing, they stink and are an abuse by the Executive.
So did folks donate for Blogosphere Day? Act Blue sure deserves a little love from all of us!
just got to chat with Fini on his blog radio show and it was great to sing the praises of all the BA supporters!
BigMitch @ 63
This is getting to be the Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney blog. It has really put me in a good mood today. Thanks
skippy @ 65
Make that 42..)
It’s past time to step up, Congress.
Impeachment is the only way to go with BushCo.
Any other effort to bring them to account will be rebuffed and dismissed.
Time to pump up the volume.
Twain @ 69
Who are they?
RalphTWaP writes “Tuesday, there wasn’t even a fuss. Wednesday, the world was a little different. By executive order, the Secretary of the Treasury may now seize the property of any person who undermines efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq. The Secretary may make his determination in secret and after the fact.” There hasn’t been much media notice of this; the UK’s Guardian has an article explaining how the new authority will only be used to go after terrorists.
[ ] politics, usa, unconstitutional, interesting, notunconstitutional (tagging beta)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news.....717-3.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl.....06,00.html
Frank33 @ 47
Unfortunately, Bush is the little boy crying wolf surrounded by Chickenhawk Littles. CNN sure doesn’t help with pictures of steam in NYC knowing full well it wasn’t a terror plot. Losers.
Get Tough @ 67
First, an apology. I thought that you were making a joke, which i thought was pretty damned funny. No signing statements unless they are delivered in song. I could go with that. I was not making fun OF you, rather, I was joining in what I thought was your joke. Honest.
Now, for a serious response to your suggestion. Signing statements should have no force of law whatsoever. Proceedural or otherwise. I agree that a signing ceremony may be an occassion for a president to re-inforce the message of a statute. But to change one jot or tittle in the statute, is a usurptation of Congressional power to legislate.
By the time the Bush regime leaves office, and their are some legitmate questions on whether that will actually happen, the U.S. is going to be so broke and shattered that it will be in worse shape than Great Britain was after WWII. They recovered, it’s suspect whether or not the U.S will be able to. It will likely be a Baby Huey only with nuclear weapons.
Keith is hot tonite. Looks like Hillary is helping terrorists again. Special Comment: Defeatists and traitors are causing defeat in Iraq.
Keith doing the special comment right now
Get Tough @ 72
Snark?
Republicans understand this: You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
Lahoma says, “look out you red-neck mother fuckers”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....mp;search=
Fozzetti @ 39
Yes we have. The irony of it is bush has done more to aid the spread of terrorism than anyone.
KO is on with a Special Comment. Not to be missed.
special comment ko!
By the way Judge Bates is a member of the FISA Court.
1,582 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Hamsher and the Firepup Patriots:
Thank you for this post…it is time that we recognize that the crisis of our democracy since December of 2000 and the subsequent subversion of our institutions, the theft of our treasury and the treasonous acts of our executive are NOT a legal or legislative problems, they are POLITICAL problems that require the mobilization of citizens to force their politicians to commit politics in the name of democracy and throw the bastards out!!!
The fascists need to create another crisis to occupy Congress this summer to take the heat off the Iraq war, so we’re gettin’ the in-your-face rejection of subpeonas and the creation of another situation to be resolved by the kangaroo Supreme Court. So the Democrats need to stand up and yell “Bring it on!!” and issue the subpeonas, claim contempt of Congress and focus the attention of the media on the lawlessness. All this, while still passin’ legislation on all the domestic issues important to the people…even if it means involkin’ the “closed rules” of the last 3 congresses. This requires committing politics of a very high order and means that grassroots pressure has gotta come from the street to force the Democrats to get their shit together. If people can be mobilized across the nation this summer to be organized and prepared after Labor Day, I think we can bring the bastards down and get Cheney and Gonzales impeached.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…THE IDEA OF DEMOCRACY IS WORTH FIGHTIN’ FOR!!
Olbermann is doing the lifting.
Dennis Eros @ 84
Might as well start callin him Justice Bates.
Woohoo! Keith Olbermann!
Scroll down to the third picture
Bush: Look! A big tree!
Harriet: He’s brilliant!
BigMitch @ 75
No offense, Mitch. I went with Twain’s comment on the “singing” statements, too.
As for procedural or otherwise, if this issue were before SCOTUS, completely eliminating it would be difficult because the Executive Branch per the Constitution is charged with executing the laws–SCOTUS won’t touch how the Executive may execute those. I think even Breyer would write the opinion on it if anyone tried to strip the Executive of signing statements that provide HOW the law is to be applied, then categorizing in the CFR. But as to substance? They act as line-item vetoes, to say the least, and infringe on Congress’ role in drafting the laws. An argument on the substantive role wins the day….
KO esta en fuego
Quick, somebody get the marshmallows, Ko is on fire again!
That letter may backfire bigtime on Edelman by producing sympathy for Hillary Clinton.
LoudounLib @ 91
SI !
Good God Olbermann, you are blowing Lahoma away. She’s excited. And so am I.
Twain @ 79
Twain @ 79
I gave you a snark, ba baba ba ba,
Because you got me good, ba baba ba ba,
Now keep on blogging, ba baba ba ba,
Like you know you should….
You Go KEITH!!! THIS SIR IS YOUR WAR! Go To baghdad and fulfill finally your military obligation.
WOW
LoudounLib @ 91
What is he saying? For the benefit of those of us still at work, please, do tell!
“Go and fight YOUR war… yourself.” -KO
BigMitch @ 97
We’ll even take up a collection to pay for the air fare.
Anyone think there is a relationship between the letter to Hillary from the Under Secretary of Defense and the EO signed on Tuesday?
Could the EO take her campaign $$$ or any Dem $$$ for language that opposes the war?
The timing is amazing…
Get Tough @ 96
I simply broke up as I pictured Bush singing his statements. Have a goofy sense of humor. It was just in fun. Hope you took it that way.
RevDeb @ 101
With a lifetime layover at the Hague.
KLynn @ 102
I’d like to see them try it.
Kerry. Doing the job on Olbermann!
Twain @ 103
I certaintly did, Twain. Keep on rocking.