It's been a sad, sad spectacle to watch Republicans beating Democrats bloody in Congress - in both the House and the Senate, but most especially in the Senate. In the last two months Congressional approval numbers have dropped from from 48% amongst Democrats to 27% and almost no bills have been passed. The most significant bill to pass was the supplemental, which by itself caused a 10% drop in Democrats ratings in a single week - a huge down draft.
Democratic leaders continue to talk about how they want to govern, while Republicans continue to let nothing pass if they can avoid it. The continued talk of "making Congress work for Americans" is simply a pathetic wish for a world that no longer exists, a world in which both parties put aside partisan rancor for the best of the country; a world in which comity doesn't mean "date rape"; a world in which Republicans are good faith actors.
Republicans, as Krugman has observed, are a revolutionary power. They do not accept the legitimacy of the bipartisan non-parliamentary form of government that ruled the US for most of the post-war period. They do not accept that all three branches of government are co-equal. They do not believe that everyone has to obey the law. They are in Washington to get what they want, and if they can't get it they will bring the entire machine to a shreeking halt.
The Republicans in general, and the Bush administration in particular really have only strategy - they always, always, give the other side nothing of any significance. They never cooperate, they never admit a lie, they never back down unless forced to do so. They understand only the most primal of motivations - fear and force. If you can't force them to do something; if you can't make them fear the consequences of not doing something, they won't do it.
This is a very powerful strategy. You've probably observed it in your life when you've seen a customer in a store scream until someone gives them what they want (or calls the cops). You've seen it from people in power - from cops who will beat you bloody because they know they can get away with it and know if you fight back, you're screwed. In schools kids will use it with teachers, knowing that the teachers aren't allowed to use force anymore. Just do whatever you want - what's the teacher going to do? In business just lock your employees in the store (Wal-mart) or just dock wages whether it's legal or not. What are they going to do?
The idea is to find a strategy which you can pursue unilaterally - where there is a benefit for you and where the cost to the other side to resist is more than they're willing to bear. It's an excellent strategy in pure terms of benefits - when it works.
There's an example of where it hasn't worked for Republicans. That example isn't in America, where it almost always has worked, but in Iraq. The insurgency is a problem where just saying "we won't negotiate and we're going to run your country" didn't work. Insurgents said "we can bear the costs of making this strategy not work for you, longer than you can and we're willing to do so. We will take 3 times your losses in order to win in the end. The cost does not matter to us. The key here is that what worked in Iraq against Republicans was essentially thier own strategy. When dealing with bad actors of this sort, the only reply to them is to use their own tactics - and to kick it up a notch.
The strategy breaks down the same way playing a game of chicken does. It breaks down when someone else is crazier or tougher than you are.
This is how you deal with bullies and thugs - you break them. There is no other way - you can't "reason" with them. They are not 9 year olds who need a "time out" or whom you can sit down with and say "that's not nice". They are adults who respond only to force and to fear - who obey only when broken.
It's also a problem of limited-timeframe rationality - which is to say, on each fight, Democrats decide "well, this fight isn't worth it, the benefits of fighting like hell are outweighed by the pain and the cost. So we won't do it." Do that every fight, or almost all (Social Security being a rare exception) and pretty soon you've got a long term pattern.
What you have to do is "get crazy" and decide you don't care what the cost is, you're going to make every fight one that hurts them as much as you can, no matter how much it hurts you. What you have to do is make examples of people - pick targets and destroy them utterly.
This sort of "craziness" is actually very rational - but it's the sort of rationality that the "reasonable adults" in the Democratic party, who want to make things work, who value comity and politeness for thier own sakes, suck at.
Let's give a couple current examples. The first deals with the problem of enforcing subpoenas. The Justice department has made clear it won't enforce Congressional subpoenas if the administration claims executive privilege. The response should be to invoke "inherent contempt" and to do it against someone prominent. My choice would be Gonzales. From Wikipedia:
Under this process, the procedure for holding a person in contempt involves only the chamber concerned. Following a contempt citation, the person cited for contempt is arrested by the Sergeant-at-Arms for the House or Senate, brought to the floor of the chamber, held to answer charges by the presiding officer, and then subject to punishment that the House may dictate (usually imprisonment for punishment reasons, imprisonment for coercive effect, or release from the contempt citation.)
Concerned with the time-consuming nature of a contempt proceeding and the inability to extend punishment further than the session of the Congress concerned (under Supreme Court rulings), Congress created a statutory process in 1857. While Congress retains its "inherent contempt" authority and may exercise it at any time, this inherent contempt process was last used by the Senate in 1934, against a U.S. Postmaster]. After a one-week trial on the Senate floor (presided by the Vice-President of the United States, acting as Senate President), a former Postmaster, McCracken (The Postmaster-General was[ Jim Farley)][1] was found guilty and sentenced to 10 days imprisonment.
The Postmaster had filed a petition of Habeas Corpus in federal courts to overturn his arrest, but after litigation, the US Supreme Court ruled that Congress had acted constitutionally, and denied the petition in the case Jurney v. MacCracken, 294 U.S. 125 (1935). [2]
The advantage of inherent contempt is that it's something Congress can do without ever refering to the Justice Department. There is no counter-move except to attempt to get the Supreme Court to overthrow it. And Kennedy (the only Justice whose opinion is in question) might well not side with the other right wing justices on it.
The second example is the "filibuster". In the Senate as it stands right now, if there aren't 60 votes, a bill is "considered" filibustered. But that's a nicety - it's a kindness so that Senators don't have to get out the diapers and the phone books and actually stay on the floor 24/7. What the Republicans have been doing is "filibustering" everything, then turning around and claiming that Democrats are the "do nothing Congress". The response is to make it clear who's holding everything up.
Make them physically filibuster. Choose a very popular bill (say drug reimportation from Canada), put it up straight with nothing else attached, and make them go 24/7. The news cycle will be dominated by the filibuster. Nobody will be talking about anything else but how Republicans are filibustering to make old people pay more for drugs (or whatever other "mom and apple pie" issue you choose.) I would personally put film in the can of old folks talking about how they have to eat dog food to pay for their meds, and start running ads which juxtapose "Old folk in horrible distress" then ask "And what does Senator McCain think of this" and show 15 seconds of him reading from a phone book. Note that you get ready to do ad buys not just because it hammers the message home, but because you know that media coverage may be unfavorable to you and you are prepared to get around the filter - you are not putting yourself at the mercy of other actors - including actors in the media.
There are two ways to deal with bad faith actors; to dealing with people who understand only force. One is to decide you're willing to let them have what they want because you won't pay the cost of opposing them. If they say "I'm going to hit you if you don't give me your wallet" you can say "ok". The second is to escalate. In the words of the Untouchables - if they bring a knife, you bring a gun; if they put one of yours in the hospital, you put one of theirs in the morgue. When people understand only force, you must respond with maximum force. Anything else is taken as weakness and they will walk all over you.
Republicans walk all over Democrats because they can - because they know Democrats, at the end of the day, will fold nine times out of ten. It's a good odds play. If Democrats want it to stop, they need to make the cost unbearable. Civility will return only when the costs of what amount to political violence have become to great for both sides to bear.
Slap Gonzales in jail. Make Republican Senators personally spend days or weeks doing nothing but filibuster popular bill after popular bill. Make them stay on the floor, in their diapers, with artificial bladders attached, until they can't take it any more.
And if you do all this, Americans will see that
- Democrats are strong. (Strength isn't about how tough you talk on killing terrorists. It's about what you do personally. Strength is what strength does.)
- that Republicans are causing Congressional slowdowns and making it so Congress doesn't work to pass bills most Americans favor.
- That if Americans want Congress to work, Democrats need a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and a working majority in the House.
When someone's bargain strategy is "or else", you can either back down or step up.
It's time for Democrats to step up.
(Ian writes also for The Agonist.)
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Whoo Hoo! First time! And it’s an Ian post, too!
“It’s time for Democrats to step up.”
Yes it is.
That would be fun to watch: the House Sergeant at Arms facing M1 tanks and AC-130 gunships. Bring along some popcorn.
Come on Democrats. Let’s kick some GOP butt!
wtf are the Dems scared of? Most of the country wants this madness to stop,so what the hell is the damned problem?
That Untouchables analogy is spot on too.
boy howdy!
The only way to beat them is to stop treating them like worth oponents and treat them like the corrupt criminals they are. Don’t take any crap from the goopers and don’teet them control the agenda.
nabalzbffr @ 4
Not sure if you were tongue in cheek, but one of my friends, Oldman, used to observe “you have to be able to count the guns before you start a fight”. Back in 2003/2004 the army would have obeyed such an order.
Today - even odds they wouldn’t. It’s an odd thing to say but the only good thing to come out of the Iraq war, imo, is that it has broken the Republican lock on the military - which scared me more than almost any other domestic polical concern in the US.
George Bush is a pantie-waste.
EPUing myself - Self, what is the sound of Freedom?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qezM-Ly5dYM
First thing is to get Harry Reid out of a leadership role. Joe Lieberman has made Reid his personal bitch; everyone else sees that and knows that Reid is a pushover. Put Pat Leahy in charge.
Man, I took a nap and I woke up pi**ed off!!!
I have had it. Not had enough…Had it!!
anangryoldbroad @ 6
Few problems.
1) They’ve been beaten up for years. It takes time to overcome that learned helplessness.
2) some of them are genuine conservatives. They aren’t crazy, which is why they aren’t Repbulicans, but they are conservative.
3) They live in fear. They really do fear the President’s bully pulpit. I hear this all the time from insiders and I find it truly bizarre - but it appears to be true.
4) They think that not going full-Rambo (pro use of military force at the drop of the hat) is a sign of weakness. They don’t understand that Republicans aren’t seen as strong primarily because they are the “military” party, but primarily because they act strong.
5) They really do value comity and the traditions of the Senate and so on. They really don’t believe in being truly nasty. They remember the old days and they want them back, and they think if they act fairly - if they act towards Republicans as they wish Republicans had acted towards them, that Republicans will reciprocate. They don’t seem to get that the rules have changed and that the route back to civility is not civility.
It was bad enough that the Republicans were allowed to frame every issue when the Dems were a minority. Why is that still the case? Is it because they have nothing comparable to the right-wing propaganda juggernaut, a lack of consensus, a lack of political courage, party leaders who are nitwits, or all of the above?
Hi Ian,
this is a wonderful post. How can we get the Democrats to toughen up?
Ian Welsh @ 8
Exactly. It’ll never happen
Exhibit A
Exhibit B
The PR hit even for the Bushies would be their “have you no decency” moment. The twenty percenters who still drink the kool-aid would be drastically reduced, probably into the single digits
I think the topic should be the Iraq war timeline. Harry Reid has the power if he chooses to use and he should use it and hold the Senate in session in August with nothing on the agenda but the Iraq war and force Toothless Mitch to keep talking and keep voting. Show the American voters just how much he really hates the troops.
By god, I just don’t understand it.
I could forgive, to a degree, Kerry’s failure to recognize that the Republicans he faced were not merely his hard-line political opposition, but a criminal gang of anti-Constitutional thugs.
Later on, too late for the Presidency, but, oh well, I felt like he started to catch on.
Now how in hell the Democratic Congress can have lived in the minority since 1994 and watching the sheer unbridled lawlessness and criminal conspiracy which is the Reagan-spawned Republican Party, and still act like they are a decent opposition and not a dangerous crew of demented nation-destroyers, I just don’t know.
I just don’t freaking get it.
How do so many Democratic politicians sit there staring a lawless crew of thugs and Constitution haters at work every single day, and every single day resolve to give those Republicans every political advantage possible?
I just… don’t… freaking… get it.
When in God’s name will they learn that “Americans” (and by that I mean the vast majority of America outside my own bizarrely right wing “South”) do not hate liberals and liberalism — they hate wimps and cowards!
I. Just. Don’t. Freaking. Get. It.
There is at least one thing I, the voters, and the GOP share. And that is a respect for ’strength’. I am not interested in a learning curve with respect to strength (principle) and my party, the Democratic Party.
All of this is about Karl Rove, Dick Cheney and his Neocons, and Bush the puppet, accomplishing a coup of our country!!!
I am really, really angry at the Democrats that are failing to step up and Impeach Gonzo, Cheney, and Bush!!!
Pelosi and Reid are yellow-bellied chicken sh##ts!!
You nailed it, Ian. Do you think that Harry Reid is willing to lead in the way you suggest?
Nancy Pelosi needs to clearly state that impeachment is back ON the table. Will she?
What will become of Harriet Meyers? Will the Democrats follow up in a forceful way on the contempt charge?
You’re right. As long as the dems maintain their non chordate position they are going to be stepped on by McConnel and co. They have to club back and be merciless. The country HAS to see who is fighting for what’s right and who is evil.
This constant anger and no action is getting to me.
How can we get them to hear us?
First thing Monday morning, Nancy Pelosi ought to call the entire House to order and show them last night’s Bill Moyer’s show.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/jour.....watch.html
Then call for a vote on impeachment.
Maybe we need to give Pelosi and Reid a freakin’ deadline - oh, yeah, they are missing the deadline.
Impeach the Criminals Now!!!
LS @ 12
LS, We have been on the same page all week!
Ian, This is another fantastic post.. Honestly it could run once a day until the war crimes trials begin as far as I am concerned.
How do I get this on a T-shirt? *g*
Ian Welsh @ 13
my idea of civility doesn’t require being a door mat. they are confusing civility with passivity.
I feel like a hostage in my own country. Held by the very Democrats I worked so hard to elect.
LS @ 10
I am an unhappy Democrat.
Some of these comments are pleasing. ;0)
Forgive please this O/T question:
Did anyone see the Network news last p.m.? If so was there any mention of this:
Oklahoma kiddo @ 30
I’m unhappy, and disappointed, dejected, dispirited, and working my way to spittin’ mad.
Enough is enough. No more playing nice, no more positioning for the ‘08 elections. It is long past time to impeach both Bush and Cheney. The abuses of power, combined with the inexplicable arrogance of an administration that hasn’t seen the sunny side of 30% in close to a year, is simply too much for this country to bear.
There has to be a groundswell for impeachment, and let it begin with the blogs. The MSM simply will not take up the cry; they have too much invested in the status quo. PLEASE, while you folks (Christy, Jane, Marcy) are at DKos, make the pitch for a united front for impeachment. Bang the gong every day, twice a day, until we attain critical mass.
BigMitch @ 32
Yes. I saw that.
Elliott @ 33
;0)
I forget who said it last night on Moyers show..
Something near the following.
Congress is treating (or sheltering) the people as if they were children.
snowbird42 @ 23
Recall that the one time Reid used the old GOP rules to keep the GOP from presenting amendment after amendment, the GOP went on camera en masse saying how dreadful and unfair the Dems were. The media showed it all, without reminding viewers that this was SOP in the Senate for the previous 12 years. The Dems aren’t just fighting ruthless and two faced opponents in Congress, they have to fight the media, too.
“I support the Left…but I’m leaning to the Right.”
—-Cream, “Politician”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhdWhxr8b08
Are many Democrats beholden to corporate interests? I suspect that they are. Their timid behavior stands as evidence. Perhaps half of them suck the corporate teat so much that they will not fight for the people.
Of course, the repugs are totally corrupt.
Today, I watched the Ladybird Johnson funeral. Listening to Luci Baines Johnson speak to her mother was so incredibly poignant.
Attending the funeral were President Carter and Roslyn; President Bill Clinton and Hillary;….but…..no…….the Ex-Governor of Texas, the fake Prezdinent of the UUUUUnited States of Amerka - King George, was not there. He sent Miss Laura. President King George W’s father George was not present (but that could be due to other problems) - however, Babs was there and she was totally ignored BTW…
How despicable and disrespectful for King George of the Ex-USA not to attend the funeral of a First Lady? How would W feel if the President of the United States didn’t show up for such an occasion for First Lady Laura Bush? Oh, yeah…that’s right…he doesn’t feel.
Makes me sick.
Eureka Springs @ 27
Know what you mean.
So what kind of play is the Tillman v White House privilege story getting? any traction there?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 35
You saw it on Network news??
Eureka Springs @ 37
John Nichols, author of “The Genius of Impeachment” and writer for Nation.
BigMitch @ 44
Is that the “I’m not going to take it anymore!!!” Network News? /s
Elliott @ 43
That’s what I am trying to determine.
Eureka Springs @ 37
It was John Nichols of The Nation magazine. I, for one, am tired of being treated like a child. I can handle the difficult task of watching an impeachment.
BigMitch @ 44
It does not show up in a scan of either CNN’s or BBC’s RSS feeds (Tillman - 0 hits. Executive privilege - 2 hits, about Taylor & Meirs, and the reaction).
Wonderful post Ian! I have been saying the same things (less eloquently) for awhile and have had minimal response from my Dem friends. (i won’t say what response my Repub friend(s) gave.)
However, I’ve found myself less often invited to parties and gatherings over the last year. Can I assume that you have experienced the same?
The path seems so clear to me. Throw the bums in jail while passing on the left. Are the Dems looking for the lost Gold on the “right” side of the street because there’s “more light there?” What a bunch of “ball-less wonders!”
But the Ds AREN’T strong. They’re weak, weak, weak. Imagine chosing Harry Ried as a leader–looks like he’s scared of his own shadow and you can hardly hear his voice even when he’s mic-ed. I’m so disgusted with this crowd I could spit. They’ve lost the public & have NO way of regaining it.
It is all too convenient that after gut feelings and all those “It’s Quaeda stupid”s from WH, a video with a Osama BL clip surfaces. It has been “intercepted”(!!), or, possibly, created by someone else than OBL group? So let’s see what follows, and if congressional majorities will matter at all. It is a dim view, yes.
Ian, I think the three I’s should be the Dem’s mantra; 1) Impeachment should be started, 2) Inherent contempt should be used, and 3) Iraq time line Senate physical filibuster is necessary!!!
We can talk and talk (and we will, we will) but the question remains: How do we get Sen. Reid and the rest of them to listen? I’ve already emailed my Dem Senator Mary Landrieu saying, make them filibuster for real. I’ll keep repeating that too. But what else can we do? I’m thinking of writing a polite but angry letter, following Trex’s excellent instructions, and hand delivering it to her New Orleans office on Monday. Might not only have more impact, but it gets around the anthrax screening delay too.
I won’t bother with my other senator. I think Mr. Vitter has other things on his mind.
I’m Mad as Hell!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....mp;search=
Hey, Ian, how is it you know so much about how our Congress works? I didn’t know about inherent contempt, and I live here. Anyhow, great article.
I’ve been reading quite a few opinions like this in the last few days. You’d think Harry Reid would start to catch on, but I think he can be a slow learner when he wants to.
Steve T. @ 54
Most certainly! Don’t chop it off!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A39J32gPxU
The Dems have BAGS. Battered-Ass Gop Syndrome. They are in the depression stage where they are unable to take any independent action so that they can escape their abuse. They just keep getting slapped & slapped and sometimes you think they allow it because they want you to see how bad they are treated. One day the BAGS will get so bad that they will have had it up to here and they will explode. It will case a ripple-effect on the floors of Congress. I think the explosion is coming shortly.
I’m Mad as Hell!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....mp;search=Steve T. @ 54
Landrieu is hopeless. She is in Ted Steven’s pocket. She had to grovel to try to get funds for LA.
I had opponents in the cliched will contest–grown sons of my husband’s former marriage sued the daylights out of me. Head of Estates at Dewey Ballantine, my lawyer, advised me to compromise with them, even though they had no case. So I went a few rounds, and soon determined that my last compromise was their next starting position. Switched lawyers & just ground it out til the end. I didn’t get crazy back on them, but I did stand up to them. Was the only way. I also made them gin up more in legal bills than the settlement they got. Made ‘em pay for their craziness.
If you missed Howie’s Darcy Burner thread today (Like if you were taking a nap!) here’s what Karl Rove is up to now:
In the last few days of the campaign Rove operatives were calling every household in the district telling voters that Darcy was about to be indicted as a felon, that Darcy was suppressing minority voters and that Darcy was an investor in Big Oil. It was all smear and lies; typical Rovian tactics.
eCAHNomics @ 51
There was a press conference on cspan this week with Sheldon Whitehouse standing behind Leader Reed and I could tell by his body language alone that Whitehouse needed to be in Reids position. It’s time for Reid to take of the gloves, delegate, or step down, imo.
Loo Hoo. @ 24
Hiya all !!!
Loo Hoo, this is an excellent idea, everyone should call/e- mail/fax their congresscritters with this suggestion. The SJC is moving well, but the Dems need to slap the Repug Senators around (don’t get me started on Reid) to make them vote in accord with the wishes of the American people.
BigMitch @ 44
Actually I saw it here:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3375772
sonate @ 50
Without contradicting Ian in any way, let me say that your typical Congresscritter hears from a significant number of his Republican constituents regularly (as in weekly), as they are urged to do by their churches or organizations. But he / she hears regularly from very, very few Democratic constituents. If you want the service the GOP gets, you need to be a squeaky wheel. Weekly.
Their mail is slanted overwhelmingly Right. Their coverage on the news is slanted overwhelmingly Right. It has been, for years and years and years.
That’s why places like moveon.org are valuable. You may not agree with all they do, but because they’re organized, they begin to right the balance.
eCAHNomics @ 60
Kudos, Ma’am, Kudos!!! ;-)
LS @ 55
if only!
Petrocelli @ 63
(((Petro))))!!!
This is a very powerful post, Ian. The Marquis of Queensbury Rules are useless in a street fight. Time to fight fire with fire.
Loo Hoo. @ 61
Geeezzz…I’m already so freaking Grumpy!!! Now, I have to figure out how to go after Rove…again…Grrrrrrrrrrrr.
Thank you! You just did!!!!
Cujo359 @ 56
Reid, like Conyers is more intent on keeping his side in line … they should step aside and let more forceful Dems take control.
Webb and other aggressive Dems have been made to toe the line, instead of having them hammer away at the Repugs in their districts.
If I was Senate Majority Leader, I would do unto the Repugs exactly as the did unto the minority Dems !
Polls, polls, everywhere on the MSM…….spewing two second sound bites but no analysis. (Yeh, what else is new?)
Anybody at the Lake at the moment with linkies available to *respected* stats that show how such-and-such a poll breaks down to help w/understanding the reasonings for the continuing drop in Congress ratings? Not expressing this very well, I know. IOW, we are definitely mad at deecee Dems but scientifically WHY? Not saying I could understand such figures but surely would like to try.
There’s homemade vanilla ice cream gonna be ready for you guys in about half an hour. Caution: not for the calorie phobic. Other company coming as well so may have to check back later for any feedback.
Ian; good post. And they are definitely fearing the consequences of not doing something, as we speak. :o)
Of course, they are going to try to sneak up on it, and DO as little as possible, as they look for the price-point where the democrats who are sick of their shit-peddling, will pick up the dispenser and take most of the blame for the last act of the bloody sitcom that the GOP has produced and directed.
It’s what they do best, when the shit starts to come down on their heads.
“Just HOW little can we cop to what a miserable fuckup it was to invade and try to occupy Iraq? And is there ANY way that we can pin the fallout from it on the democrats?
WTF, let’s just TRY to string it out with half-assed “plans” for voluntary drawdowns that really do nothing except give us a fig-leaf to hide our scrofulous asses.”
The worst thing that the democrats are doing, and the reason that their numbers in congress are down, too, is not that THEY won’t “end it” (what a joke that is!) but that for some reason, they refuse to point out, with white-hot outrage, that the party and the president who are responsible for creating the shitmire, and whom can, at the LEAST, start bringing our troops home, with a stroke of his/their pens, have simply refused to do it, in the hope that most of the anger about the war will, in some warped, twisted, parallel universe, wind up on the democrats’ heads.
The longer they wait to join the dems for some real leash-jerking on bush, the harder it’s going to be. And, the harder the bargain the dems should drive, to let these turds climb in the “bipartisan” lifeboat with them.
Today, Maliki all but invited bushCo to leave. OUR msm may ignore that, but I don’t think the Brits will. Gordon Brown is going to face even tougher questions the next time he faces the MP’s.
The obvious next step is a majority vote to demand a fixed withdrawal date, by the Iraqi parliament, as they hide out in the Green Zone Motel.
When that happens, the price of playing media-nude-tap-dance poker around the gangplank entrance will take a LARGE jump, for republicans and for the yellow-dog democrats who are in bed with them to help protect bush and the borgs from having to eat the results of their corporate-viagra invasion.
The “fear” is growing as we post. Next comes “loathing”, on the part of more and more americans. They’re not confused about who should get most of the loathing, but the democrats need to be holding daily press-conferences with that phrase:
“…with the stroke of a pen…” repeated at least as often as “war on terrrr”.
ls at 41 says-in part-”Today, I watched the Ladybird Johnson funeral. Listening to Luci Baines Johnson speak to her mother was so incredibly poignant.”
i was thinking, seeing an old interview of luci baines, how articulate she is, and deeply emotional in her words……intellectual at the same time……..wow……and thought about the bush twins, not any of the above…….thought of amy carter, ANY kennedy, chelsea clinton, even the nixon offspring even the fords…..wow, what a contrast to the “entitled two”…….the difference of being from a family of intellect, that is socially conscious,
ls further says in part- ” How would W feel if the President of the United States didn’t show up for such an occasion for First Lady Laura Bush? “
i thought about what all lady bird did in the short time she was first lady, all of the people whose lives she affected, yes, a few bonehead things, but the good by far outweighs the bad……..and then i thought, what has laura done? *crickets* yeah, she cares about this country……and she’s been in the white house far longer than lady bird was……./s
Waccamaw @ 72
They make up the polls to fit the story.
ccmask @ 58
During the month of August while congress is on vacation?
BAGS Maybe we should send every D in DC an empty bag or some eye makeup.
CTuttle @ 68
Hey dude, how’ it goin’ in Paradise ?!!
IMHO, in the next few weeks we will see some progress with respect to the Democrats standing up to the criminals in the WH. All that has come out in the investigations of the firing of the prosecutors, the commutation of sentence, ignoring subpoenas … all this is building up and adding more fuel to the fire and more ammunition for the fight. We are not the only ones seething.
To quote Manuel Garcia O’Kelly Davis: “Throw rocks at ‘em! Damn it, big rocks! Hit ‘em hard!”
I pray that someday, the Dems will take this advice. Preferably before 2076.
Waccamaw! Where is this homemade ice cream of which you speak? I’m in Myrtle Beach. :o)
I have been against this up to this point but I would say it is time put an end to the filibuster or to severely limit the way it is being used.
Ian Welsh @ 8
I’m sure a small Secret Service detail would be sufficient to fend off any such idiotic move against Harriet Meiers by congressional Democrats. But I hope President Bush would go for some theatrical flair with tanks and gunships.
Petrocelli @ 63
Sorry, I put the wrong video up, so here’s the correct one: (I love selise!)
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/jour.....ofile.html
wangdangdoodle @ 69
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or per above:
It’s time to fight fire with Greek Fire
eCAHNomics @ 60
The Repugs know that their leadership is morally bankrupt and the majority of Americans know this as well.
The Repugs are at the edge of the cliff and Reid is building them a F*cking bridge !!!
The Tillman article about executive privilege is n RawStory
“‘Executive privilege’ used to hold up Pat Tillman documents”
Also. I would say subpoena Rove and when he doesn’t show hold him in inherent Contempt and jail him.
Loo Hoo. @ 82 - and i love you too! *g*
but i’m mad as hell at congress!!
dmac @ 73
Her excuse is that she is truly oblivious and in lalaland I’m afraid, and I forgive her for that considering the despicable family she married into. At least she was there, and I did see her wipe away tears. She just doesn’t or can’t see what’s going on. Someone told W not to attend the funeral of a former First Lady. I have a problem with that. Clearing brush=good. Funerals=weakness. God. They are so callous.
I really like this post Ian. You outdid yourself.
whoooooo whoooooooooo