Al Gore has a must-read op ed in Sunday's New York Times. The opening paragraph sounds an alarm that transcends normal political considerations and evokes visceral reactions, pro and con:
WE — the human species — have arrived at a moment of decision. It is unprecedented and even laughable for us to imagine that we could actually make a conscious choice as a species, but that is nevertheless the challenge that is before us.Our home — Earth — is in danger. What is at risk of being destroyed is not the planet itself, but the conditions that have made it hospitable for human beings.
We don't usually pay attention to such warnings -- we have a derisive term for them: "alarmist." The conventional wisdom, which will no doubt rain down like acid on the man who keeps telling us that global warming is approaching a planetary crisis, will call this hyperbole, hysterics, or worst of all, just politics.
And it's not just "they" who will say this; we contribute to the climate in which such responses are the only ones taken seriously. We unwittingly do it to ourselves.
Is our Constitutional framework of checks and balances under assault? Our Bill of Rights under siege? Well, yes; I guess they are. Is the Executive ignoring all limits, engaging in disastrous foreign wars, and threatening more, dragging our prestige through the mud, defying Congress and public oversight? And is our Vice President completely out of control and secretly usurping even the President's powers? Uh, yes. Has our Justice Department become so politicized that we cannot assume fair administration of law? Do we know they're using DoJ to smear our party's officials, shield theirs and drive our supporters from the polls? Check. Have they been violating the law every day by how they spy on us, how they treat detainees, how they make decisions on everything from mine safety to drug testing, to food inspections to environmental protection, to protecting national security secrets and on and on? Uh, I guess they are. Have their judicial appointees broken all links to precedent, threatening to undo individual rights and public protections painstakingly built over decades, and keep doing it for decades? Check. But we all knew that; we predicted it; none of this surprises us anymore; nothing new here.
Think about what we tell ourselves about the merits of starting impeachment proceedings against members of this regime. It has zero chance of success, there's not enough time, or it would suck the wind out of other priorities, or make the Democrats look bad. No, it's better to continue investigating -- as though we're hoping to discover something really bad, compared to what we already know. The consensus is we should spend our energy pointing out how obstructionist the other side is while we hope the American people punish their side for the next two years of stalemate more than they punish ours in 2008. Then maybe things will be better by 2009. But the man says we can't wait:
Without realizing the consequences of our actions, we have begun to put so much carbon dioxide into the thin shell of air surrounding our world that we have literally changed the heat balance between Earth and the Sun. If we don’t stop doing this pretty quickly, the average temperature will increase to levels humans have never known and put an end to the favorable climate balance on which our civilization depends. . . .As a direct result, many scientists are now warning that we are moving closer to several “tipping points” that could — within 10 years — make it impossible for us to avoid irretrievable damage to the planet’s habitability for human civilization. . . .
To this end, we should demand that the United States join an international treaty within the next two years that cuts global warming pollution by 90 percent in developed countries and by more than half worldwide in time for the next generation to inherit a healthy Earth.
If by the beginning of 2009, the United States already has in place a domestic regime to reduce global warming pollution, I have no doubt that when we give industry a goal and the tools and flexibility to sharply reduce carbon emissions, we can complete and ratify a new treaty quickly. It is, after all, a planetary emergency. [bolding mine]
Suppose the man is right. What if we really do need to make hugely important decisions in the next two years. Not after the next two years, or after the 2008 elections. During the next two years. How does that happen?
I don't know whether there is any feasible strategy -- as in likely to succeed -- for doing what must be done. But I believe that to get at everything else we care about, the regime's continued presence in office is the first problem that must be solved. The message is straight forward: the current regime has violated the trust prerequisite for remaining in office; they are hurting the country now and deserve to be removed and not replaced by more of the same. Everything the regime believes and does stands in the way of every goal the majority of Americans have: justice, international peace and security, fairness and economic security for our citizens, and a little thing like keeping the planet hospitable for humans.
Putting impeachment on the table has always mades sense to me, not because I have any illusions it would likely lead to forcibly removing the regime from office -- that may or may not happen -- but because their unworthiness for office provides the framework for every other issue we support. Everything they do, every statement of their philosophy, every action they take or fail to take while in office should be made an argument for removing them from office now and preventing their clones from returning in 2009.
Our children have a right to hold us to a higher standard when their future — indeed, the future of all human civilization — is hanging in the balance. They deserve better than a government that censors the best scientific evidence and harasses honest scientists who try to warn us about looming catastrophe. They deserve better than politicians who sit on their hands and do nothing to confront the greatest challenge that humankind has ever faced — even as the danger bears down on us.
It may not be possible to remove them from office before 2009, but I believe every issue we care about can be argued to the America people as dependent on the end of their rule, their governing philosophy, their sound bites and their wannabe successors. And if we don't make this argument every day between now and 2009, I don't understand how we're more likely in 2009 than we are today to listen to the man who wrote this op ed.
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Hear, hear! And not just make arguments, we have to live this change. Daily.
Darn. Almost first for the first time.
I get so tired of the ‘we can’t impeach now’ line. I get it from a friend, and he’s a politics fan with a minor in constitutional law. If not now, what year? (I don’t think he believes me when I say that we don’t have that long to get things fixed. But he’s almost a ‘centrist’ Dem, and I’m moving toward ‘radical’.)
Gore ‘08!!!
SadieSue @ 3
Did you see my handy dandy clue downstairs about Zed? Go see.
Laura Doty @ 2
You got that right, Laura D. Parts of the op ed I didn’t quote talk about those personal efforts.
LS @ 6
I didn’t see your recent comment, LS, but I did remember someone (you, perhaps?) mentioning it sometime earlier & when the refresh comments slowed way down, I jumped - just not quite fast enough! But thanks for the heads up.
P J Evans @ 4
Every candidate needs to be asked whether they will continue to investigate crimes this administration may have committed if elected. The American people deserve no less.
Question: My screen shows this op ed as behind the wall — Times Select, but I have Times Select so it goes right through. Everyone else see it? Or do we need to find another link?
Scarecrow @ 10
I get it. I have firefox.
Scarecrow @ 10
goes through for me… but it looks like it’s a temp link.
did you put it through the NYT link generator to make an archive link that will not go behind the times select wall in two weeks?
here’s a transformed link…. how’s that look?
p.s. great, as always, scarecrow. impeach now!
I have often ponder the negative effect of this asshole administration condemning the planet or rather the current living creatures to a furnace hot death.
If nothing these thugs have done so far are enough to call for impeachment, what else would? It just seems that crime after crime is uncovered and everyone on our side says ‘tsk tsk’ and everyone on the right says ‘yeah? so what?’
I just don’t feel we can afford to wait out this term. Even with the lamest of lame ducks, there’s still plenty of damage these people are trying to perpetrate before the clock runs out. Roe v.Wade is in the crosshairs, Iran is too - how else can we stop them?
Investigations are fine and I’m glad they’re happening, but I’d be happier if they resulted in some kind of change.
You know what I like about Gore? He focuses on the REALLY big picture. He has the “view” from the Space Station. Without earth, sayanara baby. He doesn’t get all tangled up in the GOP myopic topics. No air, no water, no life, no point, see ya.
Scarecrow @ 10
The wall must be down ’cause i see it without subscription in all Mac browsers.
Scarecrow!
There would be some major entertainment venues that would be affected by this. Right off the bat auto racing comes to mind….
fireworks….
display lighting of buildings a la the Empire State Building, Statue of Liberty, etc.
One might derive I am a supporter of President Gore. ;0)p
LS @ 15
I like this. It’s the bottom line. ;0)
George Bush is going to fling us all back into our soupy beginnings.
Ted Sorenson’s speech this week had me weeping. I want a candidate who promises to live up to that speech.
That pix at the top is of the next President of America.
Mary McCurnin @ 20
He did that very thing just today. The man can’t even manage anchoring:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....bush_maine
Gonzoles has to go first. He can block the investigations.
selise @ 12
Thanks, I didn’t put it through anything (knowingly). However, your link and the one I have in the post look identical.
Loo Hoo. @ 24
Most definitely…then the whole rest of the cabal. drip..drip…splash
Scarecrow @ 25
the url didn’t look the same though, did it?
Laura Doty @ 21
Yeah — that was interesting. Both on this blob (lhp did a post on it) and in behind the scenes e-mail, lots of folks objected to Sorenson giving up not only in impeachment but also on investigations going into 2009 etc. Lots of folks insistent that we not short circuit the accountability thing.
Scarecrow @ 10
Good here—thanks.
Scarecrow @ 10: I got to the article through the link here at FDL, so there was no need to go to Time Select. On the inpeachment discussion, can we set out a plan right here? Are there specific legislative people we should contact even if not our own (ie. Hutchison). Is Pelosi the one to swamp? Like you, I think the impeachment card should be played as a demonstration that these folks are such serious transgressors when it comes to truth and lies, the DOJ, all the things we know. Kucinich is the one speaking out; who else is with him? Surely, this group and MoveOn, maybe ACLU, PFAmerican Way…how do we build the voice to move the action? In TX there is a voice about how much W changed after he went to DC; it seems the Washpo article makes very clear how that happened. Maybe Cheney is the first focus; I don’t know. But enough’s enough, and they are going to prolong this secrecy, lying, spying operation for as long as permitted. Sometimes the answer is that the Dems. have not found enough wrong: can that be a worthy arguement? We will not know until the actions begin.
P J Evans @ 4
Mike Starks post on Friday at dkos re a bloggers interview of Speaker Pelosi is worth a read, imo.
I was on the road this week. Where can I find a lookie at the Ted Sorenson speech?
Al Gore has moved beyond politics. IMHO, there is no other qualified to lead us out of the depths of the last six years. How about a third party run Mr. Gore: the party of reason.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 19
And interesting that he’s trying to get above the usually politics, not in the phony way Lieberman does, to stifle dissent, but to tell the Republicans, Reagan did something like this with the SALT missile treaty.
Scarecrow @ 28
then why isn’t speaker pelosi (and other dems) getting grief for saying that accountability comes with an election? (as i understand her position)
Scarecrow - thank you for continuing the push for impeachment now. I was pretty discouraged when we had the book salon and all the best minds on the thread punted. Made me crazy - so much so, i was ready to drop the toobz and pick up Jane Austen. So, i’m back in the fight. Once more into our breeches, (as pups are fond of saying).
Mary McCurnin @ 32
Here you go.
Mary McCurnin @ 32
Here:
Washington Monthly
Eureka Springs @ 31
from yesterday, pow wow’s must read comment on mike’s diary.
selise @ 35
The strike will come when they see the whites of their eyes. It must be foolproof. Pelosi is aiming for elimination of the cabal. She is saying…hold your fire….hold your fire…don’t waste ammunition….make every shot count. She’s the most effective Granny we have right now. “Courage Under Fire”. Don’t underestimate her. Underestimate them.
succinctly said
bhatten @ 30
There was a fascinating interview by bloggers with Nancy Pelosi, and different people read it different ways. I read the parts where she seemed to understand how serious the Constitutional erosions are and why restoring that was a priority for the next Dem president. But others were very disappointed in how she stumbled through the logic and then wrote off impeachment for the same reasons many of us do — too long, a waste of time, distracting, etc. Selise probably has the Mike Stark link at DKos.
I’m suggesting we change the way we look at impeachment — not as something likely to lead to the end result this term, but as a way of framing our issues and campaign. And then everything the Bush/Cheney clowns do becomes “evidence” that impeachment is warranted. Defy subpoenas? Add an article on withholding evidence and covering up impeachable offensies.
The way it’s framed now, if they defy subpoenas, the whole thing gets spun as executive privilege and only executive privilege. I say, rhetorically, turn their obstinacy into part of the pattern of conduct that adds up to a high crime.
WOW! Just read Pow Wow’s comment. I’m going to email to everyone I know.
selise - pow wows comment is a must read.. I hope folks follow your link if they missed it yesterday.
Hee, Hee, Hee. Granny tactics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW5Cou3SZKc
Okay. Nobody write anything. I have to go out for cat food. Will be back in 20-30 minutes.
Scarecrow @ 42
Can’t get Capone for murder? How about tax evasion.
Can’t get ChimpCo for shredding the Constitution, etc - Obstruction of Justice.
Nice.
I believe Senator Whitehouse has a few things in mind for them.
LS @ 40
i’m just taking speaker pelosi at her word. really got to read (or better yet, listen) to the whole thing. but here’s a relevant bit:
i understand this to mean that speaker pelosi thinks accountability will come from a good D result in nov 2008, not from stopping them now, not criminal charges, not impeachment.
and seriously, pow wow’s comment on this diary is a must read.
Scarecrow @ 34
Back to Mr. Gore — look at what he says we need to have done by 2009 — some type of commitment and mechanisms for substantial reductions in carbon emissions — then match that with how hard it was to get the Senate to agree to the auto emission standards — and we’re not out of the House yet, and have no idea what the Administration would sign.
No carbon tax, no carbon cap and trade even on the table yet. We’re a long way from where Gore says we need to be in just 24 months. If we can’t get there, then we need the best strategy possible for directly attacking the obstacles.
meant to say at 48 - that was good of Gore - appealing to their better selves, with St. Ronnie as an ‘in’
Scarecrow @ 42
love it.
and it has the added benefit of potentially stopping some of the worse actions before nov 2008 (go back to fisa, start restoring the doj,…)
I believe Gore just wants to see a grass roots effort, he knows that will be a viable transition, rather then waiting for any political process.
Hello all. I’m a 41 year old mother of two in the suburbs of Sacramento who has given up my car and planted a garden.
if i can do it, SO CAN YOU.
selise @ 49
“build the record that will allow us to get rid of them in a major way”
Here I am, taking a few minutes off from preparations, before heading off for the first big fishing trip of the summer. ET, Jr. and I go over to fish the canyons where the Copper River compresses through the coastal Chugach Range, as it surges to the northern tip of the Gulf of Alaska. It is some of the finest time my son and I spend together.
The salmon are still coming up the Copper and many of Alaska’s great salmon rivers in the same numbers as when I arrived here 34 years ago. Not all of the rivers. Some have suffered as greatly as any of the salmon rivers of the Pacific Northwest. But the Copper yields as many salmon now as it has in any year since the Great Alaska Earthquake in 1964.
But on the 250-mile drive over to the Copper, we’ve seen changes in the environment from year to year. Some are subtle - the glaciers are a bit further back in their valleys each year. Stands of pine trees move from east to west about one to three miles per year. Areas along the roadbed which were on permafrost, no longer are, causing maintenance nightmares. And the advance of the Spruce Bark Beetle has ravaged over 15 million acres of spruce forests - all of that during the 15 years I’ve been making this trip. All of these, and other changes we notice, are sure signs of major climate change and atmospheric warming.
I believe Al Gore is right. I also believe he will continue to be thwarted by political structures and ignored by the media. I’m surprised he hasn’t been assassinated.
Is it only anecdotal that Gore has cancelled all his speaking engagements for the next six months? I’ve read copmments about it here, but no links.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 18
Ditto that, my brother.
condrie @ 54
Condrie,
If you haven’t joined facebook do it so you can network with the others in SAC. I am in RC.
selise @ 52
That’s the idea — I you put their occupation of the WH on the table, then they have to think twice about what actions they take — whom will it offend? They’ve been getting a free ride till now except for 2006.
Scarecrow @ 10
Here’s another link, courtesy of Common Dreams: http://www.commondreams.org/ar.....7/01/2221/
condrie @ 54
Welcome condrie! Brave - I couldn’t do it.
Scarecrow @ 50
that’s why i was so unimpressed with the recent energy bill. we don’t have time to be taking baby steps. much, much more is needed - now. and yet, there seems to be not nearly enough pressure on congress to do better.
condrie @ 54
Welcome. How do you get around with 2 children? A garden sounds wonderful but condos won’t allow for that.
condrie @ 54
Hey, condrie — welcome. Lived 20 years in Sacramento. Nice place to raise kids.
condrie @ 54
You go!!! I have squash..the grasshoppers pretty much ate everything else :{
The view here is impeachment hearings are essential. The GOP likes to play politics. Fine. Lets do that. And when the American people see these hearings on tv, read about them in the newspapers, and hear about it on the radio on the way to work in the morning, that can only help to get rid of them (the Republicans) come ‘08. Speaker Pelosi, I strongly urge you to reconsider the need for impeachment hearings.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 60
Thanks to everyone for checking the links. I think everyone now has a way to get the op ed.
LS @ 55
yes, but via nov 2008 elections.
it’s a reasonable position. not just one i agree with.
condrie @ 54
good for you! i’ve wrangled a laptop from work so i can work from home until the rush hour gridlock is over and THEN drive to work - saving 30 minutes a day in wasted gas!
Splash! Been a day or two since I dipped my toe in the lake. I need a little advice. Any takers?
The GOP is scared to death of Al Gore. It’s as it should be.
Oilfieldguy @ 70
About love or money?
Oilfieldguy @ 70
Bare your soul.
I disagree on Impeachment right now. I do agree with Speaker Pelosi. It is frustrating but the reality of the world is, those of us who want impeachment are still a small minority. Think in the same range as the true believers.
There’a vast audience that believes the country is on the wrong track AND that the Chimpenfuhrer is an idiot but who do NOT see impeachment as a viable alternative. And if we push for it too hard in hopes that all the bad things will come out BECAUSE of it, we will lose the people who see things as wrong track but do not perceive impeachment as the proper mechanism. If we push for it too hard without having the crimes already laid out such that even the most obtuse and blind winger can agree the crimes exist, the main result will be to alienate large segments of the supposed independent voters and keep the rethugs viable for the next election.
Too many folks, and not just the mouth breathers, would look on an impeachment at this point as a political payback for Clinton. THAT is a reality that the Speaker is tryng to balance. Information is coming out. Whistleblowers have provided information to Waxman, Leahy and others are getting the information. It just takes time.
The 93rd Congress had a Dem Senate of 56-42 with 2 indys. The House was 242 to 192. Both were much larger majorities that the Ds have today. Patience.
I’ve twice heard the report of Gore’s having cleared the 2nd part of his ‘07 schedule, including something specifically in Japan. Sounded pretty reliable at the time..both times. And different outlets.
Oh heck, we got Scarecrow on board. Had a little dustup the other day at work that has been weighing heavy on my soul. Fixin’ to send an email. Is it too strong, to timid or missing something.
Bear in mind this individual has power over my paycheck. Here is the email:
Sad day Bonnie. I always admired your spunk, your independent thought and willingness to speak truth to power, It was, in my opinion, your most admirable quality. To see you reduced to a mere Stepford wife to the neocon agenda, dutifully taking your place in the amen section parroting bumper sticker slogans on cue, like a trained seal, truly grieves me. Answers and solutions, Bonnie, are complex; thumping ones chest is not always, tho’ attractive and macho, the answer.
I put a small piece up on my blog, I happen to be a middlin’ to good force on the internet, about our little dust-up. I did not do like most of the rightards do and post your name and home address and phone number. That’s just chickenshit and invites attacks by wackos.
You dismissed our dustup as fruitless–a benchmarck as why politics should not be discussed in polite company, as no minds were changed. This only occurs when minds are closed. I still remember how furious you became when a discussion of alcholism occured and I belched out “why are those with closed minds always have open mouths.”
This infuriated you. (Tee hee tee hee). I look forward to many, many more political dustups in the future. Please remember that six years ago I told you we would not be succesful in Afghanistan and you looked at me like I was completely stoopid.. I’m not so fukkin stoopid now, am I? We never talked about Iraq until the other day. This is when I realized you are pickled in rightwing koolaide almost to the point of ruination–beyond redemption.
Step up Bonnie. America needs powerful independent thinking women now more than ever. We have had nuclear weapons pointed at us for 30 years, and now, because a dry-drunk lazy-assed frat boy that stole the white-house ignored over fifty two warnings and told the FBI “Okay, you’ve covered your ass,” and did not call a single meeting, sat like a stoopid mutherfukker in a gradeschool classroom for seven minutes after being told “America is under attack,” by 20 fanatics with box-knives it’s time to shit our britches and puss out?
Fuck that shit. People wannna kill Merkins. Well goddam duh on that. Been to Compton lately? Or Baltimore? You know, where Francis Scott Key wrote “Jose can you see?” As an Oklahoman we both know that massive unexplained loss of life does not reside only with the brown-skinned meanies.
I do not expect to drag you kicking and screaming into the reality-based community. I merely hope to allow you to re-discover your inner voice of independent thought that frees you from the shackles of stepford-wifism of the right-wing wurlitzer.
Here is the link where I address you.
RE: Impeachment.
On KO last week, Turley made the point that the warrantless wiretap investigation is probably the easiest shot. Because the WH was in direct, obvious violation of the FISA laws. That makes the investigation a criminal investigation. Which means the WH can’t claim executive privilege.
The other big investigation is the attorney firings. That may (will) turn out to be criminal, but not until they get their paws on the evidence. So you have to fight through ignoring the subpoenas. So it is not yet a criminal investigation.
So perhaps the one to holler about is warrantless wiretaps.
(Also promising is the lax handling of secret docs. Waxman has a deal with Fielding to interview 3 WH Security Office guys on the record, so that could become a criminal investigation very quickly.)
right, dakine, impeachment would not pass today. However, we start a list of impeachable offenses and get that on the table today.
Impeachment may be the only thing that can grab and hold the attention of the MSM. How could they possibly ignore it? Anything less would be treated as they usually do; no press at all.
dakine01 @ 74
I agree but want our candidates to agree to continue investigating crimes committed by this administration.
oilfieldguy - do you still want that paychek?
I do not believe this attitude would survive more than a couple of days of presentation and testimony before HJC for the majority of those who have it. I also rather doubt that most people have it at this point, given how the Bush administration and its works are polling these days.
OFG,
edit out the in-your-face stuff, but keep it stern…
Naming things accurately gives us control of them. It’s time to name what is happening with better precision. Whether or not impeachment comes up for a vote, let’s make sure the rascals get away with nothing.
How hard would you work for this if you knew–not just suspected–but KNEW the Earth as we now live on it would be irrevocably changed in 2 years?
Oilfieldguy, Females are offended by the Stepford wife analogy, not a good way to get your point across. The substance is good but take out the personal stuff.. That’s a gotcha. Sorry that you are going through this.
msauna @ 79
Agreed. But right now, it is political payback. The issues are too complex for David Gregory or Wolfie or Katie or Charlie to distill in a (max) two minute segment so they take the easy way and it’s just politics as usual, nothing to see here move along.
The information on criminal conspiracies HAS to be brought out by the Senate and House through the investigations. Once an actual impeachment begins, the wurlitzer will not allow facts to penetrate the noise so the facts have to get out beforehand.
oilfieldguy - don’t do the printed word because, without any voice inflections, body language, etc, words can be taken very much the wrong way. Appeal to her better side in person. Much better at building alliances.
Ed*ard Teller @ 83
This was one caution I had with advancing my email with firepups. I do not work with gentle people, even ladies. However, I will take this unde4r advisment, since it is what I asked.
My kink did not show up for some reason, but it is the tp post on my blog. Merely click my name to read my response.
Ed*ard Teller @ 83
Yeah, I don’t see the point of offending someone I still hope to talk to. (Guess I should follow that myself!)
Oilfieldguy @ 88
Then disprove it by treating her gently. She’ll never see it coming.
Good luck.
dakine01 @ 86. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the impeachment by the House part and parcel of the investigation? The actual trial is by the Senate?
Two thousand years from now when the remnant of humanity have finally achieved enough equilibrium with the overheated planet to care about archaeology once again (I’m a cock-eyed optimist.), one of the great academic funding boondoggles is going to be projects in search of this Wurlitzer thing the old texts spoke of, the fear of which seems to have caused all the troubles of the Dark Age which just ended …
Ed*ard Teller @ 83
And no “I told you so” either. You don’t need ‘em.
Scarecrow @ 89
Write everything you want to say, no matter how offensive - just get it all out and tell it like it is.
Then scrap it (or save it for yourself but don’t send it) and write something that is more likely to work for you.
Imagine. Gore is President. And we have a solid majority in both houses. Then we need to turn our attention to Roberts and Alito.
Alicia @ 94
Ding! We have a winner.
newtonusr @ 90
i agree.
do you want to “win” an argument or win her over?
if it’s win her over, they you’re probably going to have to help her (and it won’t come quickly)… changing one’s world view that dramatically is an emotionally terrifying thing to do. let your better self appeal to her better self.
i’m better at giving advice than taking my own.