Today's installment of the Becker and Gellman Dick Cheney Controls George Bush series is a doozy. Helpless Dancer hit the nail on the head in the comments on this:
The thing that strikes me about the WashPost series is that Cheney was constructing Bush’s bubble from the very get go. He has managed to prevent anybody from one on one access to Bush without his approval. Nobody talked to Bush without his approval or his presence. His heavy handed presence managed to kill every effort to inject reality into the decision making process through intimidation. Just think about him staring at Bush from behind the bushes at that presser.
From Becker and Gellman today:
In Bush, Cheney found the perfect partner. The president's willingness to delegate left plenty of room for his more detail-oriented vice president."My impression is that the president thinks that the Reagan style of leadership is best -- guiding the ship of state from high up on the mast," said former White House lawyer Bradford A. Berenson. "It seems to me that the vice president is more willing to get down in the wheelhouse below the decks."...It is well known that Cheney is usually the last to speak to the president before Bush makes a decision. Less so is his role, to a degree unmatched by his predecessors, in steering debate by weighing in at the lower-level meetings where proposals are born and die.
Cheney, Bolten said, is a vocal participant at a weekly luncheon meeting of Bush's economic team, which gathers without the president. As the most senior official in the room, Cheney receives great deference from Bush's advisers.
Wise officials vet their proposals in advance. White House budget director Rob Portman, for instance, sought Cheney's counsel as he was putting together the budget for the upcoming year, using him as a "sounding board" on issues as varied as defense spending and tax reform.
"He never, ever has said to me, 'Do this.' Never. Which is interesting, because that might be the perception of how he operates," Portman said. "But it is 'What do you think of this?' Well, he's the vice president of the United States -- and obviously I'm interested in his point of view."
Perhaps more important than Cheney's influence in pushing policies is his power to stop them before they reach the Oval Office.
Dick Cheney, the keeper of the Bush bubble. This is what they call Republican strategery and leadership-ness-osity. Excellent.
Makes that whole faux balance malarky wedged in here and there stick out all the more, doesn't it? Anonymous Liberal has a great catch from Part I on how the Veep procures legislation through deceit. And Emptywheel makes a great catch on how Cheney's "one and only" claims ought to be used against the rest of the "not inside our super secret cone of silence bubble" on executive privilege. That Dana Milbank is openly laughing at the Veep's claims of Fourth Branch of Government security from oversight is telling of how low the cheese has fallen among the pundit classes these days.
But how is he faring with his one and only consumer of information -- keeping Bush inside that bubble must be hard work these days. Or maybe not, given the lackadaisical attitude and periodic daily bike ride and naptime schedules and such (via Digby -- do click this one).
(Gorgeous bubble shot via Cayusa.)
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Please keep those calls going on habeas. Thanks for all the calls thus far, gang! Let's keep that capitol switchboard humming today.
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UPDATE: Jeralyn has three fantastic posts up on the habeas issue that I thought everyone would enjoy. Here and here on habeas basics and Guantanimo, and this one is a great lead-up to the House Judiciary subcommittee hearing on habeas set for 2:00 pm ET this afternoon.
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Hi raven. A little like yesterday.
Missed by that much.
Xin Loi
The President is a sock puppet, ban him.
“Gibbering moron”
Is that with a hard or soft G?
Either way it fits.
Biodun @ 4
Just back from my laps, logged on and there it was. Even a blind squirrel gets an acorn now and then!
Rawstory has this:
“In Bob Woodward’s State of Denial, Kissinger says he met regularly with Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney to offer advice about the war in Iraq. “Victory over the insurgency is the only meaningful exit strategy,” Kissinger said.
Cheney, along with former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, first came to prominence during the administration of President Ford. Rumsfeld had served in various posts under Nixon before being sent to Europe as the US ambassador to NATO in 1973, a period that included the Cyprus coup. When Ford became president on August 9, 1974, immediately preceding the second wave of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus, Rumsfeld returned to Washington to serve as his chief of staff, while Cheney became deputy assistant to the president.
Rumsfeld and Cheney gained increasing influence under Ford, reaching their apex of power in November 1975 with a shakeup that saw Rumsfeld installed as Secretary of Defense, Dick Cheney as White House chief of staff, and George H.W. Bush replacing William Colby as CIA director.
Together, Rumsfeld and Cheney created a bubble not unlike the one that has enveloped President George W. Bush’s White House, surrounding Ford with a close knit group of advisors who worked to head off any possibility of openness about past misdeeds and to turn the administration sharply to the right.
The aid to Turkey referenced in Kissinger’s cryptic remark was precisely the subject of Congressional oversight on the Executive Branch in 1974-75. In a foreshadowing of how Iran Contra would play out a decade later, the White House violated both US and international law in providing arms and financing to the Turks for the Cyprus invasion.
The CIA, through various spokespeople, would not comment on how much additional information with regard to Kissinger, the attack on Cyprus, and the events leading up to the 1980 coup in Turkey with US support would be part of the declassified documents to come out this week. The only thing the agency would say is that “this was a different CIA at a different time,” and “people need to remember that.”
Why would Fred Thompson want to be Cheney’s next Bubble Boy? Have you no pride, Fred?
Seems that Bush has patterned his demeanor and behavior in office (loosely) on Chance from Jerzy Kozinski’s Being There, memorably acted by Peter Sellers in the movie version. If Bush was not thoroughly isolated and all contact carefully modulated, it would have been far more apparent much earlier that the emperor truly has no clothes.
Maybe Bush really is a genius. All this time he’s been working on his crazy act, so he can sidestep responsibility for the actions and legacy of his presidency. Reagan was the CEO president, who managed through delegation and wasn’t focused on the details. Bush has gone him a few steps better. Remembering his father’s convenient defense of ‘not being in the loop’, well who can blame him if he wasn’t even there.
Oh my - I had not seen the picture of Bush — ah — what the heck is he doing? The picture linked to Digby is beyond great. It, to me, personifies Bush exactly — a clown, a buffoon, a ‘look at what I can do’ doofuus.
Made me laugh out loud. scared the cat. He came over to see if I was alright. No, sir cat, I am not. I want my country back.
From WaPo:
We know Darth is well-versed in the fine art of dining.
LS you’re on to something. Cheney redux through the puppet mouth of Fred Thompson. Too scary for my heart.
“That Dana Milbank is openly laughing at the Veep’s claims of Fourth Branch of Government security from oversight is telling of how low the cheese has fallen among the pundit classes these days.”
SOMEBODY, please, MOVE THAT CHEESE!!!
Updated above to add-in some great links from Jeralyn.
Alfred Kelgarries’ new blog has a para by para deconstruct of this:
http://spookinthemachine.blogspot.com/
Quick, that AK. (If I missed that someone linked to this above, sorry.)
jon @ 12
Who can blame him? I quote Kevin Spacey’s memorable grasshopper character in A Bug’s Life:
Cheney was also, inter alia, well-versed in the noble art of magic:
But in a town where politicians routinely scurry for credit, Cheney more often kept his role concealed, even from top Bush advisers.
“A lot of it was a black box, and I think designedly so,” said former Bush speechwriter David Frum. “It was like — you know that experiment where you pass a magnet under the table and you see the iron filings on the top of the table move? You know there’s a magnet there because of what you see happening, but you never see the magnet.”
Paging puppethead!
I thought I read in one of the “Angler” pieces that part of Cheney’s rational for his actions was the Iran Hostage debacle. I assume that this refers to the lack of a unified command that contributed to the cluster f*ck in the desert. Did anyone else catch that?
So Digy eventually clicks you through to This story in the Dallas Times
This is just soooo scary. IMPEACH! It is the only answer. Do it now, bring all this crap out loudly and the American people will get behind it.
OK, good news, maybe. I’ve tried all of the toll-free numbers to the Capitol, and all are busy! I’ll try the regular long-distance lines to my three guys (Costello, Durbin, and Obama) momentarily.
Obama better sign on quick, if he knows what’s good for him. My Congresscritter is a bit blue-doggy for my taste but at least he voted against the Iraq supplemental so there’s hope!
Andy
Alton IL
Republicans just can’t get enough of that “movie star appeal” but only from one of their own.
From the WAPO article, didn’t they conspire to obstruct justice by their actions related to Jefferson? Oh…I guess it doesn’t really matter, since Gonzo is still there.
Thompson’s potential new acting gig, needs to be exposed and repeated all over the place.
Kissinger, Cheney and the Marionettes…
Bubble boys Ford, W, and Fred.
Raw Story headline: Waxman: White House is lying: Developing…
OT..but wanted to post the link to the story about Rove..Corrupt DOJ..and the political prosecution of Gov Siegleman. from Harper’s Magazine..
Rove took a page from Stalin’s legal system..
“For Vyshinsky, of course, the criminal justice system existed to identify and punish criminals. But more essential was its political function. If those in power have political enemies, they can throw the enemies out of power or banish them. But this carries with it some risk. The enemies may gain public sympathy over their treatment, and they may regroup and then in the future present a serious threat. The solution advocated by Comrade Vyshinsky is to use the criminal justice system to vilify political adversaries – they will be branded criminals, stigmatized, driven from all office and power. And people will be afraid to associate with them in any way. The “crime” is in the end of the day irrelevant. The process is critical, and indeed, the process must be a public one and the humiliation complete…….”
http://rawstory.com/showarticl.....of_alabama
Cheney is not the only keeper of the Bubble. Karl Rove and to some extent Condi Rice have also contributed. But the idea is correct. It is who has access to and knows how to manipulate the President and who can get to him first that wins the day. I talk about this at the beginning of my list. The Bubble is also a function of Bush’s character. He doesn’t look for other answers or alternate views. The first one that comes along neatly packaged and wrapped in the shiny paper is the one he will go for. After that, his brain overtaxed by being awake and actually having had to do something, even if minimally, clicks off.
From Laura Rozen:
“A Washington attorney writes, “Under ordinary circumstances, it would be almost certainly unethical for a lawyer for one side in a dispute to go to a judge ex parte – without the other side’s counsel present – to argue that something be done in a case. There are the narrowest of exceptions of this principle – e.g., when a party seeks a TRO to prevent another party from destroying property, or something of the sort – but none would seem to apply here. Sending Clement to the judge’s chambers for an ex parte conversation would have been a different sort of suicide mission, the sort of thing that would hurt his career. For that reason, I would suspect that Clement was told to file another motion, and that the article was drafted by someone who was being less than completely precise.”
Christy - one correction:
It looks like a monopsony, doesn’t it?
Hugh @ 29
Bush didn’t choose Cheney. Cheney and the Neocons chose Bush, just like they are choosing Freddy T.
Loved Dana Milbank’s “executive branch refugee” moniker for the veep.
Oh yeah, almost forgot: maybe Leahy staples this to his requests for information
Is it just me? Or am I the only one that thinks fred’s rose has faded a bit?
The Manchurian Candidate was a movie that was supposed to be fiction. Chehey took it as a calling.
The WaPo is far too polite: Cheney didn’t find the perfect partner in Bush, he, and the corporate oligarchy pulling the strings, found the perfect stooge. I’ve said before this presidency was always strictly a regency, Bush a pathetic figurehead propped up as much by the mainstream media as anything else. The public never saw the “real” George W. Bush, a man who seemed speak as if English were not his native tongue, who had trouble putting a simple idea into a sentence. None of this should be a surprise. The question is, now that it’s in the “open” what will the Democrats do, stay hapless or act on behalf of the country.
GrandmaJ @ 13
Hi GrandmaJ, I want my country back too! I remember when this little dance aired a few months back. I was so disgusted, I thought he might as well “moon” the entire world.
deleted by author: old news, sorry.
LS @ 32
While this is true, the neocons needed Bush. On their own, neocons are about as popular as leprosy. Bush was just the kind of empty suit that they could latch on to and ride his popularity as a regular guy (itself a carefully crafted construct of Karl Rove) into power.
do-si-do @ 36
I’m no fan but this is silly. The pubs take the same kind of footage of Madeline Albright doing a dance in North Korea and ridicule her with it. We’re better than that.
Think Progress has this up,
Cost Of Cheney’s Executive Office: $4.75 Million
Reacting to the Office of the Vice President’s assertion that it is not an “entity within the executive branch,” Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) will introduce an amendment this week to cut off funding to Cheney’s office. Last night on MSNBC, he was asked how much money is spent on Vice President Cheney for an executive office he claims he’s not apart of:
MATTHEWS: Do you know, Congressman, how much money — how much money is spent by the taxpayer to give this guy a huge operations staff, a huge policy staff? He’s got travel all over the world. Do you know how big a budget he has right now?
EMANUEL: He has a residence. He has an entire operation that supports him as vice president. And then he also has, as you said, the travel. I mean, it’s in the millions of dollars.
Now we have a number. Roll Call reports today that President Bush has requested $4.75 million in fiscal 2008 to fund the Vice President’s operations (parts of which are housed, notably, in the Executive Office Building.)
snip
http://thinkprogress.org/
The thing that really worries me is this. If the Immigration bill goes through, and the non-citizens in this country follow through and register as it calls for, the president can claim that they are invaders (enemy combatants) and lock them away in Halliburton prisons, creating tons of income for private prison systems legally.
“Section 6 of Military Commissions Act strips any non-citizen, declared an “enemy combatant” by any president, of the right to be heard in court to establish his or her innocence, regardless of how long he or she is held without charge. This habeas-stripping provision applies to the detainees held in U.S. custody at Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere.”
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 27
Raw Story headline: Waxman: White House is lying: Developing…
Jeez, that could be a *long* article -hope they have the bandwidth.
one day that big Bush bubble has to pop
Meanwhile, the Gray Lady is playing second fiddle to WaPo on the Cheney series, picking up strings from Reuters.
Hugh @ 38
True. I’m convinced they want to keep it that way. They don’t give a flying fudge about popularity, so I don’t think anything will change, unless we depower them. Fred is the next empty suit in line…
It is not Bush that wants the Immigration bill to go through, it is Cheney, because he is profiting from the ICE detention system. Helllloooo. It is a bad bill. I hope it does not go through.
re Stephen Parrish at 27. Waxman: WH Lying.
Waxman seems like an honest representative and very formidable, but I’m starting to lose faith. When will the Dems ever take meaningful action. Put another way, when are the Dems in Congress going to get tired of getting their asses kicked.
Christy,
Sorry to have taken a bit to clarify for you (getting ready to drive my mom to the doctor in a minute). But, of course Coulter is absolutely obscene. I really appreciate having a site to come to which has Standards. I’m not offended by much, just the cold-hearted black hearts in our administration. I don’t mind the swear words; I’m a bit of a potty-mouth myself, from time to time. I think people here are fairly civil with each other…and I’ve seen some potential arguments averted by people apologizing and trying to hear the other person’s ideas. If only the rest of the world would learn from FDL.
Raw Story update: Waxman contradicts Bush official on White House security leaks, threatens subpoenas
From the House Oversight Committee: White House Security Violations May Be Widespread
Letter from Henry Waxman to Fred Fielding
Just got off the phone with my Senator (Schumer’s) office. I had been astounded to read that he’s not co-sponsoring S185, and was equally astounded to hear the intern in his office say that he didn’t think Sen. Schumer had TAKEN A POSITION on the bill yet!! I told him forcefully I expected my Senator to not only vote for it, but sign on as a co-sponsor. Either Sen. Schumer has his head totally up his kahootie and is getting pretty damn blase about a crucial issue, or his staff asst.s are keeping their noses too close to the grindstone to get the larger picture. Really, if I can’t trust Schumer on this, what CAN I trust him on?
demi at 48 — That’s what I thought you meant — but I didn’t want anyone to misunderstand where you were going with that. *g*
And one of Darth’s tentacles bites the dust. From AP:
RE,Bioduns #52,
Gale Norton had the nerve to plead for leniency for this stooge.
I wonder why she would be so interested in this.
Ha Ha, What number is she on that list again Hugh?
Beyotch.
Biodun @ 52
Hmmm. Well then he has some good incentive to start spilling the beans on Cheney’s energy task force!!!
LS @ 41
The actual language of the MCA is rather different. Its language doesn’t distinguish between citizen or non-citizen in who can be designated an unlawful enemy combatant and detained indefinitely without charge. The non-citizen part comes in at the level of the military commissions. They can only try unlawful enemy combatants who are not US citizens.
Steve @ 28
The thing the Democrats didn’t learn from Iran-Contra is just this tactic from Stalin’s regime. The people involved in Iran-Contra who are sprinkled throughout this administration were never made out to be criminals by anyone. Instead, they were allowed to proclaim themselves patriots who just had to defy the constitution and subvert the will of the people in order to save the country from itself, kind of like Dr. K’s statement that he wasn’t going to sit around and let the voters in Chile make that country socialist.
Another thing that the Democratic-controlled House did back then that has had repurcussions: it allowed the report written by the ranking member on the committee that investigated Iran-Contra to publish a minority report that completely stood up for all the wrongdoing that had been committed and excused it in the name of much ado about nothing.
So the constitution was side-stepped, so the congress was disobeyed and ignored. So what? The executive can do what it wants, when it wants.
That minority report was written by Cheney’s people and put out under his name. His contempt for our government and its democratic insitutions is long-standing.
The bubble junior inhabits is more like an inflamed, puss-filled boil.
Hugh @ 54
Like 20 million non-citizens who have crossed the borders into the U.S…..
CHS - *g* back attcha.
I’ll be missing the oversight hearing, but, I’ll catch up after I drop mom back at her house. This is gonna take some time.
And, BTW, I do love the mods. I have a date with Suzanne for ice cream when my family is camping in Big Basin this coming August!
ummmm ice cream.
From Henry’s letter ( I don’t think he is kidding):
dougR @ 50
You can trust him to find a good camera angle.
I’m from NY also and it is mind-boggling when I call either Schumer’s or Clinton’s offices how often they haven’t made a decision yet.
How strongly does the wind have to be blowing in the right direction for these people to make up their minds?
Politicians!! Geez!
I’m a little like Columbo…and, one more thing:
this from Drudge Report:
STATEMENT BY THE PRESS SECRETARY
Tue Jun 26 2007 11:57:55 ET
Earlier today, in speaking about comprehensive immigration reform, President Bush misspoke. He told a group, “You know, I’ve heard all the rhetoric – you’ve heard it, too – about how this is amnesty. Amnesty means that you’ve got to pay a price for having been here illegally, and this bill does that.” This has been construed as an assertion that comprehensive immigration reform legislation before the Senate offers amnesty to immigrants who came here illegally. That is the exact opposite of the president’s long-held and often-stated position.
Just a little thing to make the fellow pups smile.
Ha! You stole my punchline!
Daily 2-hour bike rides through the park, fortified with monthly safaris to clear some scrub cypress.
What should we have expected?
:D
AZ Matt @ 59
thanks, AZ
looks like Subpoena is the WAXMAN Special this Thursday.
Somewhat on topic… see LUGAR BREAKS WITH BUSH…
Indiana is VERY conservative. Lugar has tremendous support here as he last ran unopposed. To impune Lugar’s service or policies is social suicide.
That Lugar has spoken out has great meaning and consquences for president bush (lower case used out of respect for his predecessors and successors).
Sally Quinn is an idiot
Eighteen pages of commenters can’t be wrong
Seriously, what’s she smokin’?
If Cheney does decide to “go away”, I hope it’s not a case of “gone and forgotten”.
Congress should haul his scrawny ass in front of committee after committee, followed by indictments for the numerous crimes he’s committed.
demi @ 61
He meant what he said,
“you’ve got to pay a price for having been here illegally, and this bill does that.”
This makes my point. This bill will facilitate the entrapment of those who are here illegally. Bush is not a nice guy. They did the same thing in Germany, when they made the people they ended up imprisoning, etc., register. He has no compassion, and has executed more citizens than any other Governor in history, as far as I can tell.
Raven @ 39
I didn’t see MA dance in Korea, but I’ll bet she didn’t have the same mocking expression on her face. And I don’t think the US was known for having a thirst to blow people up at the time.
yes, we’re better than that. The picture was referenced in the post as a “don’t miss” and we are responding to it.
I know I sound defensive, but I’ve had it with these jerks and they deserve every bit of mudslinging coming at them.
hychka @ 64
CSPAN’s been running clips of that, for those interested in seeing it.
OT ps watch the hearing on the EPA v We the People
TeddySanFran @ 65
Well, if she is (smokin’), it would be a waste of weed.
Just e-mailed Waxman, asking him to support Rahm’s defunding bill, and cheered his oversight work.
hychka @ 65
Nitpick alert: The word you’re reaching for is
“impugn” — we now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
LS,
I only meant we could smile that Snow said the President misspoke.
You don’t hear their backpedaling being so on the nose very often.
Having said at the start of his chat this morning that he wouldn’t take questions about impeaching Roberts and Alito, WaPoO Court Reporter Robert Barnes relented, just for me!
Biodun @ 44
This quote at the end of the NYT piece says it all,
Cheney spokeswoman Lea Anne McBride said it was not “necessary to go through the law and history” of the vice president’s role because Bush had already DECIDED that Cheney does not need to provide the records.
(emphasis on decided is mine)
demi @ 73
Oh Demi, I know that, I’m just trying to sound an alarm that needs to be looked at before it’s too late. I didn’t mean to overrun your comment in a bad way. :)
They are really sucking up to their patron with all this public talk of W “deciding.” He must like reading that about himself in his daily news summaries, or having them read to him I suppose.
Apologies if this is a repeat:
Ron Christie dismissed the Post series because of the use of unnamed sources. I wish David Shuster had brought up the fact that when Libby provided Judith Miller with info, he did so on the condition that he not be named. Shuster did say Libby was a source/mouthpiece for the VP but — to my hearing — didn’t say he demanded confidentiality, too.
TeddySanFran @ 75
And Roberts’ and Alito’s reply:
“Well a girl can change her mind can’t she!”
Hi. Just wanted to run this angle on Cheney by you all and see if anyone has any thoughts regarding it.
If OVP is not granted executive branch authority under the Constitution, then doesn’t his empowerment at the discretion of an individual President transform him into “other public Ministers and Consuls” as described in article II, section 2. Not that he is no longer the VP, just that he is being empowered with an additional office.
Note that this would also place that potential delegation of authority to being subject to Senate confirmation.
Any thoughts?
David Shuster on Tucker last night, talking to Ron Christie, who used to work for Cheney. Christie also worked for Scooter Libby and is a leading advocate for a Libby pardon.
Well, Christie is not Christy.
James @ 36..The Harper’s piece is well written and not too long..worth a read…The really chilling thing to me is that Rove et al don’t seem to worry about covering their tracks. They burned the woman’s house but that was after she spilled the beans.
Fresh thready goodness, popped and ready for consumption…
He meant what he said,
“you’ve got to pay a price for having been here illegally, and this bill does that.”
This makes my point. This bill will facilitate the entrapment of those who are here illegally. Bush is not a nice guy. They did the same thing in Germany, when they made the people they ended up imprisoning, etc., register. He has no compassion, and has executed more citizens than any other Governor in history, as far as I can tell.
Allow a question, where and when in Germany did “they” do that? Just as a hint: In Germany virtually everybody living in country is registered. Germans, Non-Germans, inside or outside prisons. And this has been so since 1871. (Some areas much earlier.)I dont get your point. Thanks for helping.
Arca @ 67
Impeach Convict and Imprison! Maybe put him in jail with some of the young GI’s formally in Iraq who are now confined in US prisons on murder charges because of their actions in Iraq. After all the only reason these young kids where in Iraq in the first place was because of the bush/cheney Iraq pre war intel fabrication and the untenable position they were forced into by “executive oil.”
bushcheney are pond scum who have sold partisan oil interests erroneously as national interest. The same thing the war criminal Hitler did!!!!!!!!!
Baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet?
What is good for GM is good for America?
Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!
Even Lee Iaccoca is sick to his stomach and make no bones about the fact that oil and US auto manufacturers are bedfellows in colusion and are more concerned with protecting their profits than having viable products to bring to market that are competitive?
Then cut retirement benefits in half, earned income taken under the colar of law by corrupt crooked corporate scumbags enable by bankruptcy laws they gave to congress and paid congrss to approve. How do you define USURPATION!!!!
Like I said earlier 35 mpg requirement is about 30 years to late!!!!!!!!!!
Rainer Vogel @ 85
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrar.....t/IBM.html
Rahm’s threat to defund the OVP is wonderful humor (worthy of Mort Sahl/Jon Stewart/Garrison Keillor, et. al) and great political theater, but is not reality based. The constitution calls for a vice-president, and the the presumption is that there will be room in the budget for a standing VP. If they defund OVP, they will have to do the same for the next president, who could just possibly be a Democrat.
Originally the VP position went to the runner-up in the presidential election. It was not until 1804 with the 12th Amendment, that the Presidential candidate ran with a vice-president of the same party, although in the case of Gore/Lieberman, the vp candidate was running under false pretenses.
For a long time, the vp had virtually nothing to do except wait for the president to die in office, and to cast a tie-breaker vote as president of the senate. John Garner, FDR’s veep said that the office of VP was worth a warm bucket of piss” (later this quote was santized to “spit”).
While there may be some historical basis for saying that the vp is not part of the executive branch (unless the standing president dies in office), for all intents and purposes, beginning around the time of FDR, this is no longer true, and VP’s have become a functioning part of the executive branch.
But historically some 40% of all vp’s have succeeded to the Oval Office, so the same bucket of warm piss has become a something of a holy grail.
Until Bush took over, Gore was considered to the be most powerful VP in history, but the change with Cheney has been radical, and in effect he has usurped the presidency. Is this cause for impeachment? By itself probably no, because that is exactly how Bush wants it, and it is his choice to be overshadowed by Cheney. Like US attorneys, the VP of today serves at the pleasure of the president. Any impeachable offenses that Cheney has committed would have to be other than his merely usurping the office with Bush’s consent.
Bush is only interested in the perks and the glory, so long as he is not accountable for anything. He is without doubt the laziest president to occupy the office. Air Force One and long vacations are also nice.
The current revelations are a godsend to Bush, because now, almost everything that has gone wrong with his administration can be blamed on Cheney. As of yet, there are no sounds of righteous outrage coming from the West Wing.
It strikes me that Cheney might be doing to Bush what the Facists in our government have been doing all along - blackmail.
Cheney, I’m sure, has something that will keep Bush under his thumb. It must be pretty bad.
itwasntme @ 89
Lets see:
The Missing Years
Coke
Bimbos
Texas Air National Guard
Peculiarities of businesses and business dealing
Bin Laden family ties
Shot a guy in Reno just to see him die
Abuse and pedophilia in Texas reformatories
Executions in Texas
Activities supporting HWB while president
Laura’s dealin’ days
The Twins’ adventures
Trading Sammy Sosa
The list goes on….
dreamcatcher @ 88
a godsend to rove, i think, as well.
do-si-do @ 69
whatever
Firsat=
i’m just getting set up to listen to this afternoon’s house judiciary committee hearing…. and i see one of my heros, Lt. Commander Charlie Swift, is