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Laura Rozen has some inside scoop on the arguments behind the scenes about publishing the expose piece on Dick Cheney. And it is fascinating:
A careful reading of the story of Cheney's coup against a feeble executive reveals that paragraphs 7 through 10 were written and inserted in haste by a powerful editorial hand. The banging of colliding metaphors in an otherwise carefully written piece is evidence of last-minute interpolations by a bad editor whom no one has the power to rewrite....That in turn suggests that this piece has been ready to run for some time. Insertions like the one about the veep's office not being part of the executive branch and seriatim "softenings" show that jamming it into the paper at the end of June, when only cats and the homeless are around the read the paper, was made at the last minute.Why? My guess is that this series ready to go during the debate over the supplemental funding of the Iraq war and that Downie or someone at the top held it back until Gellman and others started carrying snub-nose .38s to work under their seersuckers....
I think Digby's characterization of this is particularly instructive:
When I read it this morning, I also thought that stuff about Cheney not really being the defacto president and how he's lost some battles with the big guy seemed pasted on to the story. I ignored them. Certainly this first part of the series gave no examples of such a thing --- quite the opposite. The portrait that was painted was of a secretive, megalomaniacal VP who has been running the country through underhanded and unaccountable means by manipulating his ridiculously stupid boss and exerting his power by any means necessary. You really can't read the article any other way....Fascinating stuff. The DC establishment is at war with itself.
Certainly won't be holding my breath for the Meet The Press exploration of this important Beltway issue, will I?
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zed?
Downie or somebody?
Or Donald Graham?
no, numero dos…
Ya think Mr Potato Head will line up to be his butt boy again? I’ll bet Wolfie won’t.
OK, what the heck, I’ll steal *xyz’s dictum:
Dick Cheney controls Tim Russert!b>
G’morning, everybody!~
Somehow, the last week of June in DC never struck me as down time when only “cats and the homeless” enjoy the paper. When you look at the SCOTUS decisions being handed down, especially those like Hein v FFRF, discussions of executive authority are all the rage right now.
I agree that these pieces may have been planned to go alongside the Iraq funding debate, but I disagree that this is an attempted news dump. If that were the case, they’d have held it for the 4th of July recess and run them next week.
Torturers. Arrest them.
TeddySanFran @ 7
morning, you in San Fran or Maui?
raven @ 10
On the day after SF Pride, I’d guess that TSF is in heaven.
Tim Russert will clear up the brouhaha on Cheney.
August in DC is the real down time… But around the world, sh*t does happen. Think Yeltsin and Lady Di…
I’m still struggling to understand how any lawyer could be involved in this precious bit of intimidation of a Federal judge:
This, to me, encapsulates the contempt Shooter has for the concept of separate and equal branches of government — that he would send a minion to instruct a Federal judge to retract a decision.
Extraordinary.
emptywheel pretty much explodes the notion that Cheney is not the shadow President, in this piece, Cheney’s method.
The question as to whether Bush is really running anything in the White House is fascinating- and would surely get LOTS of press- if anyone really knew the answer- but alas- there’s not much to go on.
He’s obviously weak- and has obviously given Cheney WAY too much power- but does he actually have a mind of his own and is his personal butterfinger print present in the record of the administration?
I think probably “yes”- he’s fucked a lot of this up all by himself.
Most of this is so depressing that I don’t even like to read the news or even the blogs that much right now. It just makes my stomach turn and work is bad enough right now without these bozo’s sucking whatever cheer I have left at the end of the day right out of me. Of course I feel like a coward by not staying on top of all of this. Sigh.
Does anyone think Congress will start calling for those super secret Energy Task Force papers?
Peterr @ 11
The local news coverage of Pride in Atlanta pissed me off. They had quite a bit on the Gay Lutheran pastor who was the grand marshal but then they kept showing these knuckle draggin idiots with their hate signs. Guess after 23 years down here I shouldn’t be surprised.
rwcole @ 16
Someone here (and whoever you are, please stand up; I would like to give you credit) said something very interesting wrt Bush claiming executive privilege re: the USA DOJ/WH emails. The comment was along the lines of - the problem is not executive privilige, but what he/she termed “reverse executive privilige”. It’s not that Bush has so much to hide, but that he’s not involved at all and the emails will prove this. That’s what he’s afraid of.
I read the article, particularly part one, as being more accurately titled: “Scooter Sings”. Too many of the vignettes, particularly where the source is “a person with personal knowledge” or “a participant” or similar, could only have been presented by someone who had access to the events described. In this WH, such access is strictly controlled and limited, and Scooter is the only one who would have had such access and a reason to tell.
Think about it. Why would anyone still in the employ of the Cheney WH come out and give direct “testimony” about what they saw, when what they are saying directly inculpates Cheney and Addington in the course of conduct (I want to say “Seditious conspiracy”) they undertook? Who was the unnamed person in the Situation Room on 9/11 watching Deadeye Dick’s face for reaction to the collapse of Tower Two, and knew his face and reactions well enough to see he had barely any? And having the desire to tell that story?
Who would have known about Deadeye’s double-shuffle of the order directing torture, and that it came across lunch?
I think Scooter and his propaganda people got The Word that there will be no pardon and are getting back. Or, they’re turning up the pressure to show Deadeye and Bushie there are a lot of things which can come out in a most unflattering way, if a pardon is not forthcoming.
This sort of “Scooter fights dirty” behavior also accounts for Armitage running to tell all to Fitz, just as soon as an immunity agreement could be reached. As Wolfowitz’ letter to Walton (begging leniency for Scooter) told us, Scooter represented Armitage in the past (IIRC, at a reduced rate). One wonders what secrets Armitage told Scooter, and feared Scooter would reveal - if Armitage didn’t talk to Fitz first.
What do you think?
The 5-4 decisions are raining down on us like sharp swords.
We must find a way into this evil, narrow SCOTUS majority. Impeachment or court-packing? Which is quicker?
The Constitution creates the VP position, with no duties associated with the position.
In some ways, it is amazing that it took 200 years for a manipulative schemer who had an official title, plenty of time on his hands, and subversive intent to realize the full potential of the office.
Not counting Aaron Burr of course, the last VP to commit treason before Cheney.
LS @ 9
Send them to the Hague!
Biodun @ 13
the coup against gorbachev also ……
Greetings from Seattle!
http://freewayblogger.blogspot.....attle.html
Won’t be doing any bong hits 4 Jesus signs though… that can get you in trouble!
It is just a sign of the times… WaPo sits on a story that could blow the wheels off the most inept administration ever. Why? Probably out of deference to the administration, or someone in it.
The fear factor involved must be huge! The MSM has turned a blind eye to a lot of what has transpired. Our elected representatives (Dems) are afraid to do anything about it, while the Republicans all march in lockstep like good little soldiers (regardless of their individual beliefs).
Dark Dick of Death must have everyone by the cojones… Maybe there was more to those intercepted phone calls than anyone knew.
actually, world war one started in August ……
Via Froomkin in the WaPo:
Given the methods Cheney uses, we might want to go back and reconsider some moments in history:
1. The Wednesday night mugging in Ashcroft’s hospital room — who called Mrs. Ashcroft? The presumption is Bush; but I’d have to presume now that Cheney/OVP set this up. Bush might not even have known what was going on, even if he made the call.
2. The WaPo article does not identify the person in the National Security Adviser’s office who made sure that Bellinger’s memo to NSA Rice warning her of the legal hazards in the torture memos went first to Cheney. But emptywheel says that person who served as Cheney’s mole was Stephen Hadley. Now ask yourself, why would this Administration decide that Stephen Hadley is no longer to be the “real” NSA wrt to the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, but instead we’ll have a “czar” to do those things? Is this Rice getting her revenge, and the WH retaking control over the wars, against Cheney’s cabal? Or something else?
It would be interesting to watch this on a PBS series about the 12th Century, but since it’s real and these people run our government, the only safe thing to do with this crowd is to remove them from office and ask questions later.
scribe@21
Armitage didn’t get immunity. He just wasn’t prosecuted. It was Ari Fleischer who got immunity and ran to Fitz.
From the Gellman Live Chat today:
Tony Blair is expected to be confirmed as an international envoy for the Middle East this week.
scribe @ 21
Scribe, based on the idea that the WaPo sat on this story — apparently for some length of time — and if Scooter was one of the main sources, could it be that WaPo decided the story might prejudice the outcome of the trial? That sounds real noble, but it is entirely possible, particularly if their legal team suggested they hold it.
scribe (#21):
yours is a novel slant, for sure. as to it’s likelihood i plead ignorance ……
TeddySanFran @ 14
well, this is one time I’m glad that federal judges have lifetime tenure — and that it just as hard to impeach one of them as it is for these clowns.
The above kind of reminds me of the scene in “Marathon Man” when the CIA dude (can’t recall the actor’s name) pulls a gun on the group of street thugs Dustin Hoffman sent to break into his apartment — and they all break out their own guns and knives and the ringleader says to the CIA dude, “Blow it out yo a**hole, mothaf*cka.”
I would love to know how the Washington elite wage their internecine battles. At cocktail parties do they hurl weenies at each other?
TeddySanFran @ 22
Here’s a thought: If, granted a big if, we can get impeachment wheels rolling and we start with the sitting justices who obviously lied in their confirmation hearings, namely Roberts and Alito, who would sit as presiding judge during the impeachment trial of Roberts?
And the man lied big time during his hearings. He has absolutely no respect whatsoever for the doctrine of stare decisis.
Is this Rice getting her revenge, and the WH retaking control over the wars, against Cheney’s cabal? Or something else?
Would make sense if were someone from Rice’s camp. She has had it with this jerk.
Helen @ 31
Ok, my bad. But still, IIRC, Armitage was pretty cooperative with Fitz.
scarecrow @ 30
if Shakespeare were alive today …….
AZ Matt — that answer (keeping in mind that Chatzers select their questions) made me realize that the WaPo is deciding now what to publish. I thought that rather a shot across the bow, but of whose bow?
Sojourner @ 34
I don’t think so. If the WaPo lawyers allowed a doctor’d picture of Fitz behind bars, to grace the cover during the trial, my guess is “prejudic[ing] the trial” was not a big concern of theirs.
james @ 38
It won’t happen but I recall reading somewhere/somewhen that the senior in time on SCOTUS justice is the back-up to the Chief Justice rather like the Senate President Pro-tem is usually the senior senator in time served for the majority party.
Loo Hoo @ 39
She sees this as the time to make her move for the Veep’s job.
As for the President imo, nothing about this Cheney article helps him. After all he was nothing but Cheneys yes man at best, he approved everything and helped Cheney run around the constitution, geneva conventions, while manipulating everyone, including judges, unabated.
I really don’t see how any of this helps Jr.
AZ Matt @ 32
They are going to be on Tweety today, I wonder if KO has them lined up?
TeddySanFran @ 14
for another possibility see this discussion laura rozen’s war and piece (i’m reader S).
i submitted a question to gellman’s q&a today asking for clarification, but it wasn’t one of the ones he answered.
oldmommy at #36:
Isn’t it William DeVane playing “Agent Janeway”?
scribe @ 40
Armitage had already confessed to being at least one of Novakula’s leakers months prior to the Fitz appointment. Which means Ashcroft and Comey saw that something bad was going on even after Novakula’s leaker(s) had been identified.
Thanks, dakine01.
Eureka Springs @ 46
He’s made out to be particularly inept and manipulated in these private luncheons where the Veep waves his pocket watch and seemingly hypnotizes the Chimp.
Alternatively, it’s W’s path to “Not my fault!” which has been his career-saving chant in the past…
Good morning Teddy, Christy, everybody! Hey, I’m awake to read a Christy thread while it’s still “active” .
Been a while.
james @ 51
Just hope I’m correct as it is always possible that I am an idiot…
So is Maureen Dowd plagiarizing Juan Williams, the other way around, or is the “make up this hour’s undisclosed location” meme fair game for anybody?
Cheney: “Where is Army Group Downie?”
Out of the coverage, Kelly O’Donnell of NBC is beginning to blip on my radar screen. She did a Today show piece this morning that wasn’t half bad - unapologietically questioning Cheney (I know - how many years after the fact). But she also rose to the bait and asked a couple of direct and appropriate questions during a recent WH presser. Maybe she’s the fissure in NBC’s corporate lockstep fawning coverage of Bush/Cheney. The Daily Nightly blog there is very much under-represented with progressive input - mostly it’s fans of Brian Williams telling him how wonderful he looks in NOLA.
But recently, they’ve added a twice weekly blog post by a news writer (called Nuthin’ But ‘Net)that’s all blog reporting - and frequently cites FDL, Digby, Daily Kos, MeDD, Atrios, TPM and Nuckraker, et al.
I wish a few more would take a look and comment - I am sure that the comments are read by the producers and the talking heads. I am occasionally commenting there about principles of journalism and ethics 101. Williams wrote a post in response to a comment that took him to task for masking editorializing trivia as news reporting. I also had called O’Donnell to task for posting about Bush/Cheney lists of gifts instead of the hard news of the day. She didn’t respond to the comment directly, but it was at the next day’s WH presser that she mustered her courage and asked the direct questions. My kudos comment was published quickly.
Just a thought about sending honey to encourage the timid MSM to report courageously….
Eureka Springs @ 46
that’s part of the reason i don’t think he had anything to do with this. Fuckwad’s administration can’t be pleased that this is happening. i think it’s the residual DC Oligarchy, the ones that that were more comfortable with Daddy than with Lady Barbara’s accursed spawn.
fahrender @ 28
I have to recommend Barbara Tuchman’s jauntily written “The Guns of August” as beach reading.
So then. Are we now prepared to say this country’s president is a nincompoop? And if so. What does this say about us, and particularly my party? The Democratic Party.
scarecrow @ 30
you make a good argument, scarecrow. and i am getting more and more convinced you’re right on this.
so, how can i prole like me help get the ball rolling on impeachment? should i be calling my congress critters? writing an lte? something else?
The history is all there. I mean the president has been barely functional his whole life.
It would have to be a BBC production of 12th C. internecine fighting. PBS is too compromised nowadays. Frank Lutz? You’ve got to be kidding.
brendan @ 58
yes, me too. i also recommend her “The Proud Tower”. that is one of my favorite historical eras…..
Bush, Darth, and Gonzales have always maintained, “We have done nothing wrong.”
Then why will no one admit to even the ‘rightness’ of what was done at DOJ?
But but but Christy! All journalists are liberals ! Drudge says so! (Never mind that Drudge doesn’t discuss who signs the journalists’ paychecks, but hey.)
I don’t know what part Cheney and Rove play in the scheme of things. But I do Bush’s role. He’s the flunky.
Ed*ard Teller @ 55
Ed*ard Teller channels Steve Gilliard . . .
Phoenix Woman @ 65
I don’t even have Drudge bookmarked on my two newest computers.
raven @ 19
Brad Schmelling was a great choice for grand marshal, but sorry the news coverage didn’t stick with his story, rather than the knuckle draggers. “Wingnuts foaming at the mouth over gay pride” strikes me as a kind of “dog bites man” story. What’s new about it?
I mean think about it. If Bush were gone tomorrow, it would make no difference.
Good morning Jacqrat.
Bush is once again getting mugged by reality. His massive spin machine has been effective in staving off that judgement, but as PT Barnum once said.
There are plenty more revelations coming. Remember the ‘revolt of the generals’ a few years back–right around the time Murtha bailed on this war…..
Back then the military was saying that they were getting stretched thin…..it has only gotten worse and now Cheney and Bush are flooding more uneducated, unqualified and often criminal elements into the US military.
Not to mention the much maligned CIA folks and the USA’s and the folks in NASA and FEMA and the rest.
Rob Portman said that there were going to be many resignations coming after his.
Bush’s C Team is quickly eroding into a Z Team.
-GSD
-ck- @ 67
Hadn’t thought of that. I’m an unworthy vessel for his thoughts, but inspiration from that source I’d be happy to channel.
Mod(s). Clean up my #66 for me would you please. Insert the word ‘know’ between ‘don’t’ and ‘what’. ;0)
The Whitman hearing on CSPAN3 is WILD!!
Thankyou.
OT to Ed Teller — surely within you there is an opera or two in all we’ve seen since 2001, no?
While we are all speculating as to sources…I would wonder about Bush the Daddy’s team. Which would/could point to Condi, as her roots go back to Snowcroft and Bush I.
selise @ 60
Well, there are two of us now, and we’re both DFHs, which qualifies as a conspiracy. We need one more to qualify as a terrorist group. But first, we have to convince Glenn and Digby, who reminded me of Democrats last night. ;>)
Article Against Cheney: For secretly and surrepticiously usurping the authority of the Presidency, while undercutting the ability of the President to receive advice and counsel from the Attorney General, the National Security Advisor and the Secretary of State, and through intimidatin and deceipt inducing the President to take measures and issue orders that violated the Constitution and the laws of the United States against unlawful surveillance, torture and war crimes, including the Geneva Conventions, etc.
Article Against Bush: For, at best, being such an incompetent dimbuld that he allowed this to happen, or at worst, knowingly sanctioning the same.
In the alternative, committing blow*obs in their hearts.
Froomkin has another great Laura Rosen comment from a different post:
I think she means “wielded” and not “yielded.”
[Odd note: the Froomkin link goes to Laura’s post on this subject, but this exact quote is not there. Perhaps she edited her post after Froomkin saw it. But then, on the front page of Laura’s blog, I realized that this whole post is missing. Curiouser and curiouser . . .]
Prairie’s Graffiti:
The worst part of the Bong 4 Jesus ruling by SCOTUS is it allows Ken Starr to slither out from under his rock and smarm us again.
retirin’ in five @ 77
Der Ring des Republikaners
Part 1 - Das Potomakgold
Part 2 - Die Hillary ist Ubermanly
Part 3 - Siegfried und der Pretzel
Part 4 - Busherdammerung
So Tony’s going to rehab.
As the international envoy, he would work to help the Palestinians strengthen their political and economic systems and institutions in preparation for an eventual independent Palestinian state.
An unnamed source aware of the negotiations reportedly told the Financial Times that Mr Blair’s appointment has been “150% approved”.
Well, mods, ya gotta admit it’s funny. ;) You can delete.
Opera?
Cheney stars in Madman Flutterby.
Ed*ard Teller @ 81
What about Bruncondi?
Perhaps Tim Russert could get Scooter to come on MTP before the cell door clangs shut to explain how Cheney is simply misunderstood.
Ed*ard Teller @ 68
I hope not. You’d need a lot of bleach to clean your computers.
Peterr @ 85
calling Darkblack…
I’m sure somebody somewhere has already done a Condi in Valkyrie costume pic. Or was that an undoctored picture of Rudi I’m remembering?
Sorry mods. My bad. Just kill it. Fingers were typing without brain being engaged.
Speaking of morons.
Did this racist clown think that he could stay on the lam and undiscovered for more than half a day?
-GSD
If It were a Palestinian would I trust Tony Blair to be fair?
Proof Howie Kurtz and the WaPoO don’t understand the rules for online journalism:
This happened to me one time, too — I linked to a WaPoO article that said “Some European leaders applauded Bush’s climate change plan” and criticized the WaPoO for that construction, since no leaders were named. After the deadtree edition was in birdcages, but before my FDL post went up, the article was edited without any indication of a change.
This is Pravda-on-the-Potomac at its best: editing articles post-publication to reflect errors caught by readers, without noting the changes. The Washington Post Online: re-writing the first draft of history to meet your needs!
I think Donald Graham has the same problem with his mother that W has with his father. W ruins Iraq, Donald ruins his mothers beloved newspaper. After Catherine died, Donald had his mother’s, much loved gardens, dug up. What a piece of crap he is.
*
Breaking news. Maureen Dowd has always known that Cheney is evil.
Ms. Dowd, America’s funniest writer, has also discovered the Constitution.
AZ Matt @ 29
One by one the gooper presidential candidates are self destructing- leading to a call to the bench— “You- Thompson- suit up- get in there for McCain- he can’t hit a barn door with a tennis racket.”
GSD @ 91
kinda hard to miss, isn’t he?
Can’t wait for the press conference:
“Look (a favorite authority-establishing tool of both Tony Snow and Dana P) the president understands the importance of moving forward and doing the job he was elected to do. Just today he outlined his reauthorization of the No Child Left Behind Act and blah, blah, blah, blah, and blah.”
So, you’re not concerned with the Post series?
“Look, as I just said, we’re a country at war with a president who understands the priorities of the people, and we’re not going to comment on unsubstantiated sources that provide the basis for a hatch job.”
albert fall @ 23
No that’s just the point. Bush has always been a regency and nothing more. The Rethugs needed an attractive — really attractive to some — figurehead to run with and they got him in Bush. But all along, the adults that Chris Matthews always named with such heavy breathing were the ones were going to running things.
Catholic bishop givin Roo-Dee hell for his abortion non-position.
The catholic church will attempt to prevent any catholic from ever bein prez again.
aaron burr
dakine01 @ 54
I’ve always found that’s what makes my own life so exciting and unpredictable :)
Bush: The guy you’d like to have a beer with.
Cheney: The guy you’d like to pour a beer on.
When my grandchild grows up, I want him to be exactly not like Dick Cheney.
Cheney presides over the Senate on cspan at this moment…. swearing in a new Republican Senator from Wyoming. John Barrasso.
TeddySanFran @ 104
Your being kind to Mr. Cheney. My thoughts re: the Dick, could land me in jail. ;0)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 106
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I’ve had it. I have frickin’ HAD IT! If Congress doesn’t actually DO something (impeach) on THIS, then I will not only make the decision to NOT vote for ANY Democrat in 2008 (I will go straight 3rd Party, top to bottom), I will also start giving money to 3rd party candidates and parties. I have had it with the worthless Dems.
NOTHING could possibly make them impeach Gonzales, even pictures of him being at Abu Ghraib laughing in the background of the torture and abuse would move the Dems to fulfill their oaths to the Constitution. NOTHING, not even pictures of Cheney actually CONDUCTING torture persona