Earlier this week, Frontline had another in its continuing series of documentary examinations of the aftermath of 9/11, the messes that are Afghanistan and Iraq, and the decision-making or lack thereof that has taken us to this point. This particular episode was entitled "Endgame," and it was put together as an examination of what has gone wrong and why in Iraq via interviews with policymakers, former military commanders and some of the journalists who cover them. (If you missed the show, you can view it in its entirety online.)
I missed the television broadcast, but have been going back through the show and some of the ancillary interviews on the website as time permits me this week, and I have to say that some of the statements -- especially those from Frederick Kagan -- are just stunning in their fundamental lack of understanding of the full range of issues at play in terms of national security and diplomatic considerations for the long term, versus the immediate need to apparently just blow things up out of spite.
Especially in the context of the following:
Under ordinary circumstances, terrorism holds no appeal to the overwhelming majority of any society. People are not by nature extremists. In fact, with rare exceptions, people are indifferent to the angry ranting of a fanatic.The reason is simple: The terrorist's view of the world is not widely shared. The wrongs that cut him to the quick do not offend his compatriots or stir them to action. His political ends are dismissed as illegitimate, his violent means assailed as crimes. Instead of being welcomed as a hero, he is vilified. The fate of many a violent extremist is to die in prison, disillusioned and alone, the world as unconcerned with his cause as it had ever been.But occasionally, fortune smiles on the extremist, granting him the credibility he craves. Ironically, the extremist rarely has anything to do with this change. Instead, it happens when the society he attacks pursues policies that vindicate his venom. To his satisfaction, reality comes to resemble what he has long decried. His vision begins to acquire substance where once it was fantasy. Those around him – long unmoved by his platform – awaken to see the world as he has described it. Gradually, the lifeblood of any state – its moral legitimacy – ebbs from the society to the terrorist, whose message no longer seems so extreme.
So it has become with the war on terror. Noble declarations of American rhetoric can't conceal reality on the ground: seemingly endless detentions of innocent prisoners; "enhanced interrogation techniques" that many believe to be torture; black sites where prisoners "disappear"; renditions to countries that practice what the US cannot.
In the end, the US approach to combating terrorism has given Islamic radicalism the greatest gift of all: evidence to support the argument that America has abandoned the rule of law. And so the call to jihad has achieved a currency that was all but unthinkable before Sept. 11. By most accounts, Al Qaeda numbered only a few hundred people on that fateful day. Now its numbers and the numbers in sympathetic groups can barely be counted, so attractive has its message become.
In a few short years in office, George Bush has managed to undercut the very foundations of lawful societies and of cohesive objection to the lawlessness which underpins the chaos of terror. Through a concerted campaign of fundamental disrespect for the rule of law. Through a lack of understanding and respect for the norms that civilized nations across the globe have put forth for generations as ideals toward which all decent people should strive. Through a foreign policy based on some variation of "my way or else -- yee haw." And the results, as shown by the multiplying numbers among those who would fight against our nation are nothing short of catastrophic.
It is the lack of respect for the rule of law, across the board, which the Bush Administration has pushed in every aspect of its policy decisions. Truly, it has been "l'etat, c'est moi" far too often -- and one only need look to the exhortations of conservative legal acolytes of the Addington mold in today's LATimes urging the President onward in his fight to refuse Congressional oversight into the politicization of the Justice Department to see the short-sightedness of such ideologically based unreality.
Honestly, do these people think that it is in the best interest of the Bushies and of the GOP to drag out the Congressional investigation into this wrongdoing -- inch by measly inch, all summer long as they pull out one damaging revelation after another in a drip, drip, drip of investigation? Are they altogether daft? Or has Republican policy become so mired in playing to the Bush and Cheney egos that the good of the party as a whole has been subsumed with "keeping Bush happy, whatever the cost" (and by extension, covering Rove's behind, which clearly keeps Bush happy)?
By all means, call the Congressional bluff, oh ye of idiotic strategy. Please. Make my day, because I'm certain that Sen. Leahy has more subpoenas if he needs them.
The pattern of "too many fingers in too many pies" for politicization reasons is pervasive among the Bush Administration. From Sen. Whitehouse's DOJ chart to the fact that the undercover agents at the CIA and elsewhere do not trust their own government to keep their own secrets:
He added that members of the executive branch needed to be more disciplined about protecting classified information.“Far too many people,” Mr. Rizzo said, “know far too much.”
From Laurita Doan at the GSA, to Bradley Schlozman at the DOJ's civil rights division, all the way to the latest Dick Cheney claim of exemption from the laws which govern everyone else. The Bush Administration, every day, with every disrespectful end run of the rule of law, makes the case for the likes of Osama Bin Laden by becoming that which we are supposed to be fighting.
For shame. For all of us. We must find a way out of this together -- because the blighted view of the Bush Administration of who we ought to be, of how we ought to act, and of how tightly they can control all of this cannot be allowed to stand. They are wrong. And it is time that we all -- every one of us, liberal and conservative alike -- stood up and said so. For our own safety, for our own history, and for all of the generations to come.
PS -- This is just the sort of conversation that we will be having with Glenn Greenwald at Sunday's Book Salon regarding his latest book, Tragic Legacy. I do hope that you all can join us for the chat -- there are a lot of important issues that Glenn covers in the book that need much more public discussion. I'm hoping the Book Salon will only be a first step in that -- in all of the days ahead.
(Photo of trees beginning to bud via Bekah Stargazing. Beautiful shot -- love the perspective. H/T to reader WB for a couple of the links above.)
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Christy!
zunoed?
Ah, missed it by THAT much…
We are going to be decades ondoing the damage to our national reputation caused by these idiots. And that assumes we can elect a string of reasonable, honorable administrations which is in no way a given.
Good Morning Christy.
Thank heaven Frontline programs remain available after airing on the telly. It has always been a valuable series, never more than now, imo.
Morning all — just pouring a new cuppa coffee and settling in to finish working up a post on Judge Walton’s memorandum opinion. How is everyone this morning?
dakine01-Haven’t gotten a zed since Libby was convicted-I’m a happy camper today. BTW, Christy will you have a piece on the SCOTUS decision on the Rita sentencing? Nina Totenberg called it bad for Libby on NPR this AM.
WaPo linky-thingy:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....eheadlines
Please forgive the OT from today’s Boston globe. It seems that MItt has a state cop wanna be problem.
mornin Redd. just a quick driveby between meetings (gotta get that 2nd cuppa). nothing new on PACER. will check again at lunchtime. oh, and Reggie seems to agree that Robbins is all wet on the Appointment Clause issue (hehe - love those footnotes!)
Thanks, CHS. I put this, o/t, in the thread before, but I got it from the comments section of WaPo about Cheney’s claim that he isn’t part of the Executive Branch. From someone called critter69, I thought it would appeal to FDL…
But what can we do…….. I was on the streets a few times in the 60s (not enough, in retrospect!), but where are the passionate today? Then the media were not inextricably tied to the origin of the problem, of course. Being helpless is deeply frustrating, because there is no public will being fomented into action.
Even the likes of Nina Totenberg are torn because it is their equivalent of the Mafia who are behind it all.
I am never surprised at the level of disrespect that this administration has for the laws and traditions of our democracy. It is fundamental to their conservative ideals that all government is bad, therefore what ever they chose to do is better.
It does amaze me that we elect people to run our country who doesn’t believe that government can be a force for good in the lives of its citizens. That would seem to be a clear reason to exclude them from public service.
So many sticks to the craw, I feel like a pin cushion. But it is still Cheney that sticks the worst. At least his idea that the VP office is somehow outside the executive branch (can you even imagine the gall!) is being met with some serious resistance from Mr. Waxman. Go Henry!
“Bush Blight” reminds me that I have to go out and spray the roses.
Good morning, Christy et al.
The whole problem with our “War on Terra” has been that we acted based on what felt good to George W. Bush, not on what would, strategically, limit al qaeda’s effectiveness. OBL wanted to convince his potential recruits that the west was embarking on another crusade against Muslims, and we gave him the ammunition.
We have many messes to clean up, and it will be a long time before we come close- and that assumes we elect leaders who know how to clean it up.
Frankly, I prefer the drip by drip by drip method untill it becomes perfectly clear to anyone but the most biased and bigoted that the Bush administration has been the most corrupt in the history of the nation, that it is done more damage to the precious Constitution and Bill of Rights than any external enemy could hope. The evidence of this lawlessness should be gathered and held up before the entire nation’s eyes. Then there will be clarity where before, everything hidden, available to only those few “chosen.”
Someone mentioned downstairs the thought that, since cheney now claims not to be part of the Executive branch of government, he should be challenged somehow for daring to claim executive privilege.
What’s your take on this, please? His absolute arrogance leaves me slack-jawed. He CAN’T get away with all these abuses, can he?! It’s hard to think of anyone, in all our history, who has ever represented such a danger to our future.
There just has to be something that can be done, short of simply taking to the streets in protest. How can he be stopped?
Well, Lew, could we have a few bamboo shoots (e.g., Waxman’s memos) with that drip, drip, drip?
Given the current slim Democratic majorities in both branches of Congress, the only plausible way out is the 2008 election.
Do you expect that before the Iowa caucus this site will coalesce behind one presidential candidate?
Congrats on the zed mc.
Dedication pays off *g*
And, OT, but a fun smackdown, is Fred Kaplan’s Rudy evisceration in Slate. Gotta love this quote:
Really worth a look.
sofistic @ 18
er, well, ah, mmmmm, ahhh, verrrry inteeeresting!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 6
I’m still yawning despite seven hours of sleep and a large mocha, but hey, we’ve got the weekend for sleep. :-)
Nice piece, Christy!
Cheney must thrive on defying all rule. He hasn’t had a health event in ages.
Mutant Poodle 21
oh groan. we can’t stand another one. the world can’t stand another of those from this country.
Christy, I must say that the quality of your writing just keeps getting better.
What I was really thinking was how “effective” the CIA used to be in taking down its targets (from the soon to be released documents from the ’50’s thru ’70’s) and what has happened within the agency since then . . .
Phoenix Woman!
A chance to thank you in person! I’ve been enjoying your numerous columns of late. always informative and thought-provoking. ;->
Good morning Christy, how are you?
Bush Blight
Chenney Contamination
Rumsfeld Rot
Condi Corrosion
It starts at the top and seeps all the way down.
Christy, you ask:
I think that in the minds of many Americans, if the information drips out bit by bit, then they are unwilling/incapable of making the connections between the bits to see the big picture. Here at FDL (and other progressive blogs), you and the others are very adept at pulling these pieces together to help us see it.
I think the hope on the administration’s side is that if the American people see investigation after investigation, then the story in their minds will be “Democrats hate Bush - just look at all these investigations,” whereas, if you get it all out at once, it becomes easier to see how the pieces all fit.
Adie @ 17
I cannot imagine any twist, turn, backflip, or other contortion of law, logic, or physics that would enable cheney (a/k/a, imo, the antichrist) to simultaneously claim to be not in the exec. branch, AND claim entitlement to exec. privilege. But no doubt I’m missing something.
christy - that Joseph Margulies link is wonderful… i think i’m going to print it out and give it to everyone who tries to tell me that we have to choose between human rights and safety.
Gnome de Plume @ 24
MORE evidence of my theory……
Somehow it offends me when the situations in Iraq and Afghanistan are referred to as “messes”. That just sounds too light! In my book the situations in Iraq caused by the U.S. Bush invasion of both those countries should be called what they are crimes against humanity, disasters, catastrophes! Messes?
This country will never recover from what we have done. I base that not only on my own observations and feelings but more on what I have heard expert after expert say.
We (our government, our military) are ultimately responsible for what the immoral and criminal Bush administration have inflicted upon both the Iraqi and Afghani people.
As Osama Bin Laden shared with British journalist Peter Bergen during an interview quite some years ago OBL said that he hoped to witness the U.S. become “a shadow of its former self”.
OBL’s dream seems to be coming true.
Gnome de Plume @ 24
maybe…
when he starts out claiming exec. privilege, then thinks it’s just hunky dory to carry on while pulling a switcheroo & claiming he’s not in the exec. branch….
no. i mean it. i’m seriously worried about just what’s going on there…
oddmommy @ 33
He needs a new battery in his pace maker. Not sure if that counts.
Kathleen: We will recover. Germany recovered, Japan recovered. It will take generations, though.
Are they altogether daft?
Hey - that’s one of those Q’s calling for “simple answers to simple questions”, isn’t it?
I am 63 and I never thought I would see what has happened to our country, over the past six years, occur in my life-time. I grew-up in the DC area and have been aware of national politics since 1950. The current situation is not Bush but the result of a building movement since the Goldwater defeat. It seems to me that this disaster is the result of a small group of people, with different agendas, who have all believe that their “end” justifies the means. The genius of Atwater and Rove and others was to mobilize and expand the influence of the “lizard brains” and to convince them to vote against their self-interest.
The question I have for the Dem candidates is: will they pledge to restore the “Rule of Law”.
It will take a huge amount of resources to prosecute the criminality that has occurred..I’m not optimistic.
Lew Koch @ 16
and it should be recorded in granite rock: sculpture and bas relief
When your world view is just me and you and by you I mean me .
When your experience is I Win I win I win !
When all your pals enjoy you like family
You are quite simply
a phenomenon
actuarially anomaly ,
Hail hail the gangs all jailed !
Millineryman @ 29
it’s a plague
sofistic at 26 — Aw, thanks. *blush* I was wondering if this even held together the way I wanted it to in a fresh read, versus reading it with all the background reading I did in the links. I’m glad it worked for you. :)
oddmommy @ 31
She’s my daughter (slap)
She’s my sister (slap)
She’s my daughter (slap)
My sister, my daughter. (slap)
She’s my sister AND my daughter.
The Chinatown justification.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 43
big yes.
GeorgeSimian @ 36
Cheney is a psychopath!
fiercesomefedder @ 41
Damn! We have a new drinking song in the making.
sofistic @ 47
and a celebration coming!
Permit me an EPU from late late night.
The SR-71 was developed from the YF-12A, a prototype fighter that was very fast, but lacked the maneuverability for air-to-air work. It was reconfigured for Strategic Reconnaissance. Then the new Cray supercomputers were used in the development of the current f-14, F-15, and F-16. I guess nobody wanted to fly in a F-13.
Planes with an “A” designation will be generally used for air-to-mud, close air support of ground troops.
kathleen @ 46
I’ll defer to those in the mental health profession, but if you cannot be both psychopath and sociopath, simultaneously, then I vote sociopath. The presumption there, though, is that one must be part of the human race in order to be sociopathic towards it.
Stratocruiser: Actually, I have always admired the A10.
Christy–I don’t know what you are putting in your morning coffee these days, but you have been on FIRE!
I really appreciate the in-depth posts here in general lately by scarecrow, Tula, PW et al. They are so good, that I feel there is nothing that I could possibly add, but I do read them carefully.
oddmommy @ 31
I agree with you. But that’s exactly what he’s reported to have said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06.....ey.html?hp
Not only would it not be within the realm of lawful acts, it’s not even remotely within what one would expect as a casual joke, bad or otherwise. It’s wayyyy beyond belief, unless there are underlying circumstances that are extremely disturbing to contemplate.
Who is in charge right now?
Fred Kagan so early in the morning! This fat neo-con pig does not have enough military experience to dig a latrine. But he is supposed to be an expert on war and Iraq and is actually setting the policy.
Philip Zelikow is one of the greatest liars ever to corrupt the US government. He lied and obstructed justice while “leading” the 9/11 Commission. He is a neo-con expert on government propaganda. He has no expertise on Iraq or the Military, but he has secretly been part of the Deconstruction of Iraq.
I am reading “Fiasco” by Thomas Ricks. Ricks documents how Wolfowitz, possibly more than anyone other than Bush/Cheney, caused the Iraq war.
If you spray the Bush Blight with truth, will it melt?
Frank33 at 54 — Ricks work in Fiasco is very detailed — and very infuriating. I came close to throwing that book across the room on several occasions as I was reading it. It’s a great read, for anyone who hasn’t picked it up yet — but do be forewarned that it will truly piss you off.
Do you think we’ll ever get a straight shooter in the WH again? A non-hypocrite for prez?
Moore (”SiCKO”)said after the premiere that movie mogul Harvey Weinstein, a personal friend and supporter of the Clintons whose company financed the film, “begged” him to remove a scene exposing Hillary Clinton as the second-highest recipient of campaign donations from the health-care industry.
Moore said he didn’t know whether the Clintons asked Weinstein to make the call.
After her health-care overhaul plan failed, Clinton went “silent” — as Moore put it — on the need for health-care changes. And then she began raking in the dough — big time — from the industry when she started running for office.
Running out the clock may keep scandals in the news longer. But it’s purpose is to keep the whole story from coming out as a coherent narrative. Any partial version, no matter how damning, would be less horrible than the whole story.
Let’s not forget (hortatory subjunctive?) that Karl is fundamentally a sociopathic marketer. He makes tobacco lobbyists look like choir boys. His specialty is a First World War-style war of attrition, with the same ready willingness to line opponents up in front of their home trenches while massed press attacks mow them down like political machine-gun bullets.
Karl abhors allowing his opponents to put their claims into sharp relief. He will have concluded that delayed revelations will prevent that. They will also exhaust the interest of Congress, the public, even bloggers. For many, this may be true, especially as the campaign season gets a renewed head of steam starting in January, only six months away.
A slightly OT OMG! Rahm Emanueal learns to snark:
Dick Dick Cheney, please move out of the White House!
Oh, good grief. Apparently, a WSJ op-ed by Dorothy Rabinowitz, of the editorial board is comparing Fitz with Nifong and attacking Judge Walton.
Someone just make these advocates of lawlessness go away.
There i go, jumping on the 3rd rail in yet another thread.
Sorry Christy. Sorry folks.
I’ll leave you to your proper topics, and go see if s’more thistles came up after yesterday’s wonderful rain…
i’m serious, and i’m not nuts. at least - being nuts has nothing to do with it… as it were…
I’d really like to see Democrats in Congress who think that there’s more to ‘job performance’ than lip-synching leftish slogans as they vote with the conservatives.
Adie @ 17
The real reason these radicals are able to get away with so much is that the one thing the Constitution presumes is a reasonably good-faith effort to play by the rules. My impression is that the framers were not so naive as to believe there would not be corruption and wrongdoing that would sometimes go unpunished, and they were certainly worried about a leader declaring himself king, but they didn’t envision leaders who would claim to be performing constitutional offices while claiming that any part of the Constitution they found inconvenient didn’t apply to them.
I’d say our best hope is that as the end of the Bush era approaches, more and more of their lackeys will realize that if they’re still around at the end when the rule of law is re-established, Bush will escape scot free and their asses will be on the line. I don’t think anywhere near enough of them will actually be punished, but at least if they resign and flee the approaching sunlight like cockroaches (as we’ve seen in the “Justice” Department), further damage can be limited.
Scarecrow at 60 — Yes, the Kenneth Starr cheerleading squad has apparently found a need to rein in scary prosecutors. Ahem. It is the single most appalling fact-twisted junk op-ed thus far on the subject — and considering the dreck that has poured forth from Toensing and Co., that is really saying something.
I know I sound pessimistic, but how does this country ever regain any integrity that we may have had? How does a country recover from the immoral creation of a situation where a million Iraqi people have been killed, 4 million are refugees and who knows how many are injured. How can we be forgiven for taking our eye off the stated goal in Afghanistan, and creating a enviroment where the Taliban is regaining power (I have a friend from Afghanistan is studying in the states who has a very large family in Kabul and talks to them weekly. It sounds like it is getting more dangerous day by day)
I believe the “cakewalk in Iraq” zealots were well aware of the death and destruction that would take place in Iraq and Afghanistan. Micheal Ledeen’s “creative destruction” psychopathic horseshit!
I guess like the majority of Germans and others who ignored or took place in the genocide of 6 million Jews, 3 million Poles, a million Gypsies, handicapped, gay etc etc. we might be able to regain some territory! But for recovery or healing to take place our nation would have to recognize, admit, demonstrate true remorse and shame for what our military and the Bush administration have done via the invasions.
A 12 step program for our nation. It’s a long shot.
Otherwise our nation is hollow, without a conscience absent of soul. Most people around the world know this about the U.S. and fear us with good reason.
There are many dead Americans walking!
Christy and gang:
OT, and at the risk of giving you all a bigger headache, Dorothy Rabinowitz on the editorial page of today’s Wall Street Journal compares Patrick Fitzgerald to Mike Nifong (Duke Lacrosse team prosecutor) and pens another screed against the rule of law in the neocon PR effort to save poor Scooter. Also insults Judge Walton too (implies he’s ignorant!). (I’d link but it’s subscription only and why give them the traffic…)
We’ve subscribed for years because of the business news and have either ignored or laughed at the editorials. But no more. We’re “unsubscribing” today. (We figured when Rupert bought it we’d cancel, but we’re cancelling early.)
Let’s just say I hit a tipping point this morning–I’ll find my business news in other places. Ah, the power of the free market! *g*
Woodhall Hollow @ 59
Just saw Sen. Durbin on the floor, discussing the “4th branch”. As I watch this thing play out, I swing from the humor to the horror, and back.
I just hope that after Bush leaves office, if not before, the justice system will pursue this law breaker. Watergate was nothing compared to this guy.
earlofhuntingdon @ 58
This is undoubtedly the case; and, a most tragic reality that the evil marketing genius is quite probably correct. A dwindling of concern by attrition will be the greatest crime our era leaves to posterity.
Imagine when our grand children look back and say, “They allowed the concept of Habeas Corpus to be removed from the very foundation of their society and did no more than squawk about it for a few weeks until the new American Idol season started…!!!!!”
Oklahoma kiddo @ 57
And this, friends, is why I will not vote for Hillary. There is always a certain amount of corruption in government, but when it is so corrupt that people like Hillary (who blew health care) (and her husband, who gave us NAFTA)are our only choices, I will write in Micky Mouse before I vote for the current field of Dems. And I have a sneaking suspicion that I’m not the only one. If the Rethugs get in again as a result, well, then the democracy is over, and the American people will have to deal with that too….in a way that the wouldbe kings might not like, but that has been the way for hundreds of years. It is not a desireable way, but then…..if we all have to be gangsters to get anything, then I know a lot of people who are probably much better at it than anyone in Washington.
newtonusr @ 67
Me too, and I end up settling on revulsion.
Woodhall Hollow @ 59
when I first glanced at the sign, I thought it read “Barnacles on Government” *s*
The WSJ editor is in essense accusing Fitz of obstruction of justice:
Why is there not a consensus for Articles of Impeachment for Cheney? The simple fact that his COS was convicted of Obstruction of Justice should be evidence enough that he has engaged in High Crimes and Misdemeanors.
He is rogue. What do we know so far?
He bypassed normal channels and “cherry-picked” intelligence on WMD’s.
He held secret energy policy meetings that has resulted in the tripling of energy prices.
He refuses oversight by any agency.
Am I missing something? You can darn well bet that if Gore pulled anything like this, his behind would have been slapped with Impeachment so fast his head would spin.
Where is the courage to stand up to this?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 57
well… he is married… but if he does/doesn’t think he belongs, depending on whether it’s Tuesday or Thursday…. *adjusts foil hat*
Thank heaven for your presence at the Lake, OKK ;->
The Financial Times story about Rob Portman leaving the Bush Titanic was quite interesting.
Portman said they are many more departures to follow his.
Bush’s presidency is melting like that infamous cake left out in the rain.
Bush is now backtracking on everything. He’s negotiating one on one with the North Koreans…He’s considering closing Guantanimo Bay…Negotiating with insurgents…
He’s doing everything to revive his decaying legacy and the more he tries to embrace realpolitik the more his base fritters away claiming they’ve been stabbed in the back by a vacillating Bush.
Not a position of power or envy Mr. Rove, not in the least.
-GSD
Steve @ 39
Exactly!!
Scarecrow @ 73
really, you can’t make this stuff up
Scarecrow @ 73
No fair trying to make me lose my lunch before I’ve even had breakfast…
Scarecrow @ 73
It would really help if Fitzgerald could write a report, as Starr did after the ungodly Whitewater/Clenis fiasco. Apparently he didn’t because he as not authorized to do so via statute. I wonder if this is something Congress could repair. It would do a world of good if he were allowed to open up to the public the process of the investigation, including facts that he learned that he couldn’t prosecute and why.
I encourage everyone to read the Ricks interview. Also consider reading his Fiasco … for more background. I trust his sense of reality.
Another possibility would be to get him on FDL for an online chat/interview. Problem would be to ask intelligent questions and not flame him. Or, from another perspective, use him as an information source and not as a policy maker.
Quaker technique for dialog would be useful in this context … when someone says something get quiet for several minutes and really absorb what is being said and not just shoot from the hip.
George W. Bush, a fucking disgrace:
http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/
Please, W, go away. Just go the fuck away.
very good question. For example, re yesterday’s “good news”:
http://www.salon.com/politics/.....index.html
martha @ 66
The Financial Times. Much more reasoned analysis and that soothing orange paper color.
-GSD
Woodhall Hollow @ 80
I don’t think the folks at the WSJ care one iota for the truth. This is willful, knowing distortion and character assassination of both Fitz and Walton. Truly dispicable.
The true story is mostly out there, for anyone who cares about the truth, except for a few details of Cheney/Bush direct involvement. And Fitz is following the law, while these lawless advocates take advantage of it.
I am sure someone has said it before, but these actions from the git-go was deliberate. And planned. They wanted to stir up a mess so that 1) they could have cover for their stealing Iraq oil, and 2) the military complex would have guaranteed profiteering for — well — forever. Nothing was by accident. It was by design. And Iran is just their next achievement — more war.
GSD @ 76
I am dubious that he’s getting rid of the Guantanamo model - just moving it out of sight (into smaller packages at distant locations) so people won’t pay attention.
Always assume the worst.
Scarecrow @ 73
wigwam @ 77
You don’t need to convince the “lizard brain” of anything. All you need to do is warm the rock and they’ll sit content until the sun goes down. I hope it sets on this administration soon, but it must be realized that the mechanisms employed are still perfectly viable. The cold blooded fear of the bigoted, NRA, fundamentally religious, crypto-fascist faction of the populace is still there to be exploited.
The fear is the catalyst that warms the rock. And propaganda experts, since society first built huts and shared the same fire, have been using that fear as a weapon.
How do you counteract a portion of society that allows itself to be manipulated on a biological level?
GSD @ 76
That’s why I think this story about the CIA airing decades of dirty laundry is a bright shiny object meant to distract from other problems currently ongoing. The link is to today’s WaPo0 although I posted one to the NYTimes version downstairs.
“The only thing we have to fear is fear, itself”
FDR
“Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country”
JFK
“Not everything we did was ultra vires“
GWB
Maybe they can put THAT medley on the entrance to his library.
Good morning from L.A. Excellent post this a.m., CHS, & looking forward to your comments on the Walton memorandum later…
Fiasco was a Christmas gift to many friends this past yr. A must read- important, although maddening & frustrating is a good description too. Right now I’m reading Joe Conason’s It Can Happen Here & The Italian Letter.
The Italian Letter has been put down in fuming anger a few times, & I’m only to p. 83. So many people who intimately know Cheney are quoted in this book as forming the opinion that our Veep has constructed in his mind (apparently since becoming VP ) a righteous world where no opinion matters but the one he reaches on his own, & all policy decisions come from that inner world- truly frightening.
Mutant Poodle @ 87
I think the problem of Gitmo is not the place but the rules. I don’t see how it helps to move the detainees to some prison in Afghanistan, or Leavenworth, if the same outrageous rules apply.
sofistic @ 47
Damn! We have a new drinking song in the making.
Here’s another politically-relevant drinking song… I’d love to hear this behind a beer and a bar! http://tinyurl.com/yvu7pa (written before the Libby verdict and just as relevant now after his sentencing).