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He's a friggin' cash cow:
When the MoveOn.org Political Action Project found out that Lieberman was one of the hosts of a $3,000-a-person Washington fundraiser tonight for Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, the grass-roots, anti-war group pounced.MoveOn has long been at odds with Lieberman, a strong backer of the war who won re-election last year as an independent. He has worked together with Collins for years as leaders of the Senate Homeland Security Committee.
The word went out from MoveOn Tuesday: Donate money to defeat Collins, who could face a tough re-election battle next year, it told members in an e-mail.Within 24 hours, more than 5,600 members donated an average of $63 each, for a total of $355,000.
MoveOn, knowing a good thing, decided to keep it going, and Wednesday sent out another e-mail.
"Wow," the organization said. "In less than 24 hours, thousands of us around the country chipped in more than $280,000 to help anti-war candidates beat Joe Lieberman's pro-war fundraiser. It's amazing.
Collins' opponent Tom Allen seems to be well aware of this, per his Blue America appearance here on FDL. You can kick Joe by giving to Allen here.
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Hey!
Hope you are well Jane
everyone is still downstairs watching the McNulty hearing.
I’d like to kick Joe alright, but it’s not right to say it out loud here.
*g*
hiya Jane!
My joy of reading Jane Hamsher write contemptuously about Joe Lieberman will never subside.
Is the McNulty hearing on CSPAN?
Oh this is quite enjoyable to read.
I can only imagine how much more Susan Collins voice is quivering now.
Speaking of quack-partisanship, David Broder watches MATLOCK
AnnieW @ 8
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It seems fairly clear that, barring any (sadly somewhat typical) meltdowns by Democrats, they should pick up some seats in the House and Senate.
I sincerely hope that if and when they do gain seats in the Senate in 08, they kick Joe to the curb in the fightin’ 111th. They shouldn’t even let him caucus with them anymore. He is such a Republican. How the folks in CT could have missed the slime trail is beyond me.
(And I’m a moderate, centrist-leaning Democrat! And I still can’t stand him.)
Anniew –It’s on C-Span3.
McN: I was first consulted in October/Novemer.
We need to link Joe to other Republican Moderates before they wise up!
I learned to dislike Lieberman during his “debate” with Cheney where he tried to inhale Cheney’s ass.
Force this bum to leave the party. Don’t let him caucus with my party, ignore him and embarrass him. Strip him of all responsibility within the Democratic Party. Anything to get rid of Lieberman.
Dems may net one or two sentate seats- but probably no major pickups as it looks now. Could stand pat or lose a seat too.
He used to have some fairly legit liberal creds.
His views on the war have apparently changed his outlook on mnay things. For him to not even want to investigate the Katrina debacle shows that he is NOT who the people in CT used to know.
It appears that rather than getting a wake up call from being defeated in the primaries, it’s made him more stubborn.
great story jane…moveon got it wrong though;
he wasn’t an independant he was from the party;
“liberman for liars” or something like that
McN reading his quotes…before he said he ‘assumed’ the WH approved, and now he is saying that meant he ‘knew’ the WH approved - do I have that right?
OT - Ashcroft: U.S. Attorney Scandal Has Not Damaged The Justice Department ~ ThinkProgress
How is it possible that Sanchez comes to this hearing without the seminal text from the Senate hearing that she is questioning McNulty about?
Any thoughts on Sanchez’s questioning?
dusting off an old but enduring chestnut:
“my contempt for Joe Lieberman will never subside.”
Hallelujah! Marginalizing that horse’s ass is a truly delightful endeavor.
McNulty resigned in the middle of an investigation!
If Lieberman is raising money for Collins, that means he is helping fund Republicans. This man is actually working to defeat Democrats.
McNulty is flyin’ his
freak flagRepublican flag high today.Why does that make me think of someone else we know?
And if I absolutely must surrender my discretion, yes, I am speaking of W.
Conyers up!!
rwcole @ 15
He is in the WH employ, a la Armstrong Williams.
Cannon just said the president should set priorities. Mc Nulty contradicted him and said that the USAs set priorities
Oklahoma kiddo @ 27
he is a Vichy-ous traitor.
Is it me or is McNulty being incredibly mealymouthed in his answers? It seems to me that he is saying that nothing happened and that things are being misuderstood including his and Goodling’s contradictory testimony. This is disturbing.
Joe’s supporters think that the war in Iraq is somehow helping Israel. We need to educate them that 1) America cannot afford to keep this war going on forever 2) We need to start planning for how the middle east will look after we leave granted not good 3) The longer we stay the less able and likely America will be to help Israel in the future 4) Do they really think that our troops staying another Friedmen Unit will change anything? A real fair peace with Palestine is the best security Israel could have Bill Clinton’s Peace plan seems like a good place to start.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 16
gee. don’t hold back on our account. heh
Lieberman is a Quisling. Not only a traitor to his party but a traitor to his country.
Conyers: We may nee dto enforce subpoenas what is the policy of DOJ tp help enforce subpoenas?
McNulty: I am recused re document production Re; policy - don’t know.
Conyers: would you help us bring charges of crim contempt if these subpoenas are not honored.
McNulty: I’m recused. Haven’t a clue.
punaise @ 24
my #7 above is an homage to fdl’s paronomasiac laureate - punaise!
Typhoid Joey
Conyers: Will you help us bring charges of criminal contempt if our subpoenas are not answered appropriately?
McN: I’m recused, so, um, no.
Conyers: we want you to do what DOJ is there to do.
McNulty parsing. First question is policy (once again he hasn’t a clue) second question is these particular (I’m recused)
Oh yeah baby!
I downloaded an add on to Firefox and now I can do the split screen thing.
I am likin’ this.
McNulty where is that “integrity trumps loyalty?”
Hugh @ 34
This is exactly what every witness has said. Of course it’s disturbing but the Dems do not seem to be bothered as much as the blogosphere.
Conyers: Who in WH was consulted re: firings.
Mc: Look at documents
Conyers: we know that already. You’re the #2 man in this operation. Was this consultation with Miers?
Mc: The email
Conyers: No not the email.
This is an incredibly powerful tool that might completely isolate RGJoe from those for whom he’d like to fundraise. What BlueDog or GOPer will want RGJoe to hold them a fundraiser, with the opposition poised to do this — MoveOne’s followup email, sent yesterday?
I can hear these sweet words all through the Capitol tomorrow: “Gee, thanks, Joe, but I can’t afford for you to hold a fundraiser for me! My opponent will twice outraise you, just like Tom Allen did. Who needs that hassle??”
BWAHAHAHAHA !~!
McNulty’s role in the A*P*C espionage trial
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iow.....trial.html
McN: All I know about consultation with WH is Nov 7 email from Sampson to WH counsel.
Conyers: Sounds like you’re cutting yourself out of the loop.
Joe is going to help raise early money for Tom Allen. I usually wouldn’t send money this early in the campaign cycle; however, after reading Americablog last night, it pissed me off so much, that I sent Allen a couple of c’s.
Colbert needs to do a take-off on this delightful sprite behind & off to the right of McNutlie.
-hilarious twit impersonation… possibly a “tell” whenever da boss is lyin’???
Conyers: Remember that you are a trusted former staffer on Judiciary. We want to know where the lines from DOJ to WH are.
Canon: Please extend Conyers time. This is the crux of the hearing. WOO BOY
Mc: All the info I told you and the emails explain everything
Joe Lieberman can go straight to hell as far as I’m concerned.
OT but fun:
Seriously, can we please, please have these people hire someone who can write a coherent set of questions? This is a sub of the Judiciary Committee, and they can’t even ask real or probing questions.
Politicians = morons.
They should glue their aides to their heads. Might make this hearing less painful.
McNulty “I was consulted at the end of the process” McNulty set up for an ass kicking resignation!
Biodun @ 52
Naw, he needs to stop and pick up Cheney first.
Conyers: Monica said she should not attend the Senators biefing so they wouldn’t know the WH was involved.
Mc: My focus was on providing the info re: removal (corrects himself) resignations
I was concerned about it appearing political, not that it actually was political
Somehow i doubt Joe’d feel a donation to Allen would be as painful to NoMoJo as a knee to the testicles…
but probly that’s just me…
Floggin’ My Blogs–June 21, 07
More dire news on the environmental front: It’s the end of the world as we know it. http://www.walled-in-pond.blogspot.com
Meanwhile, genetic and ideological purity are conjoined in the minds of the Bushevik lickspittles controlling career hires at the DoJ. http://www.thewell-armedlamb.blogspot.com
Tunes to accompany all the preceding (including an RIP for Antonio Aguilar, who died Tuesday), from many sources and on several subjects.
http://www.woodyguthriesguitar.blogspot.com
and if you didn’t get a chance to listen, be sure to check out Terri Gross’s ( http://www.npr.org/templates/r.....p?prgId=13 ) interview today on the subject of the indebtedness/slavery of the Citizenry to Peabody Coal.
have a nice day…
The Older I Get, The Better I Usta Be…
My dog might bite ya too, Ric…
Paul McNulty and the A*P*C Rosen/Weismann espionage trial
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iow.....trial.html
Keller: Let’s begin with the areas of agreement.
I’d like someone to ask McN whether he thought it was appropriate that he was ‘consulted’ at the time he was.
Keller kissing ass, getting ready for the full on slobber fest.
Keller giving a hypthetical. One that didn’t come close to happening.
Keller: clarify the incompletions.
- you know, that’s a good question….not that I think we’ll get a good answer….
Say it ain’t so, Ralph!
Ralph Nader says he is seriously considering running for president in 2008 because he foresees another Tweedledum-Tweedledee election that offers little real choice to voters.
“You know the two parties are still converging — they don’t even debate the military budget anymore,” Nader said in a 30-minute interview. “I really think there needs to be more competition from outside the two parties.”
Steve @ 50
Worked on me, I’m already in for a hundred bucks.
But I’m a total roundheels on this.
I’d like someone to ask: okay, McN, you say you didn’t intentionally mislead anyone. But did you intentionally obfuscate? Was there an effort by anyone at the Justice Department, of which you are aware, who intentionally obfuscated matters before Congress?
Here’s what’s good here. They are now scrambling to excuse “inconsistencies” and “incompleteness” of their testimonies. And not doing a very good job of it.
Also, Keller is clearly leading him from a pre-arranged script. And the script stinks. they don’t have much to work with here.
Bustednuckles @ 63
Once again it is appearing that the Dems are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The Republicans have a coherent strategy while the Dems ramble and unprepared. Their questioning leaves a lot to be desired.
Johnson: Deligation order to Kyle and Monica
McN can’t think of anything specific that was incomplete in his testimony.
I know it’s probably hot under the glare of the camera lights, but, come on, he can’t think of anything specific? I’m calling BS.
Bluetoe @ 71
the buddhist is up!
McNulty’s memory is becoming fuzzy. How surprising.
Johnson: Are you familiar with the order
Mc: Now I am
Johnson: When?
Mc Read it in the paper recently. I had no connection to it and have no recollection of seeing it before.
Johnson: But they could hire and fire in your office.
Mc: Well, that kind of how it was conducted.
Johnson: No it wasn’t
Mc; That’s a difficult question
Hank Johnson interesting questions
but not following up– McNulty saying that he did NOT have authority to hire his own COS –
This is an important line of questions.
Bob in HI
“I can’t say it’s true or false, it doesn’t fit that way.”
Last time I checked, things kind of have to fit that way…
“It appears that rather than getting a wake up call from being defeated in the primaries, it’s made him more stubborn.”
He got elected by goopers- so now he needs ta suck him some gooper ass. It’s very PRINCIPLED- if ya see what he means.
Bustednuckles @ 43
Busted - may I ask which extension does that magical trick? Thanks-
J: didn’t it bother you that Sampson and Goodling made you into their bitch?
Johnson: What was the purpose of the deligation that you learned about a month ago in a magazine article.
Mc: delegates to Monica and Kyle to make hiring decisions in AG office. Have no memory of that order being done.
Johnson: Did it surprise you that your authority was taken away from you
Mc Remember the routing that I should be out of the loop.
Johnson’s purty good(!)
1st time i’ve seen mcn squirm, & the lil’ twit over his right shoulder’s even more animated - heh.
anne @ 81
Uh, it depends on how you define “bitch”.
Johnson: Do you now that Elston called the fired USA and told them to shut up?
Mc: Knew about Jan call (to Cummins); not Mar (with the threats)
Ed*ard Teller @ 67
He is an ass but he IS correct. He is the wrong vessel for this, however. Unfortunately, so is Bloomberg. I see NO one in this gig, except MAYBE Ron Paul. who might get into actually fighting about getting the military budget DOWN rather than up up up…and Paul is the wrong vessel as well.
dougie @ 77
But what he’s indicating is someone else was involved, and Johnson didn’t stop to ask WHO!!!
Bob in HI
Johnson is good because he has the Voice of God. I think they should sic him on W., might confuse him into some truth-confessing.
Jane Hamsher is far too kind and generous in spirit concerning Lieberman. They just showed him on the noon news following Obama around CT today. What Obama, who supported Joe at one of his local fundraising dinners, does NOT need is that albatross Lieberman around his neck!!! Somebody wise him up.
I may be wrong at 85 re: dates.
McNulty now spewing out Elston’s BS that Elston wasn’t threatening anybody. We were worried about privacy of those fired.
deandra @ 89
Are you saying Obama and Lieberman were actually campaigning together? That would be quite newsworthy.
And disgusting.
I heard the Lieberman ran for re-election (2006) under a party that was created specifically for him, “Connecticut for Lieberman” but he never officially joined the party.
If that is true is it legal to run under the auspices of a specific party when the reality you really do not belong to that party? Wouldn’t that be fraudulent to advertise you belong to a party, run for a political office, when you never belonged in the first place….
Hoping somebody can answer these questions….
Thanks—–
dougie @ 88
W is incapable of stating the truth, even when it might help. Nor will he ever hear the voice of God in the entire future of this universe.
Ed*ard Teller @ 93
Not even when the alleged god says, “bye bye”?
If Obama keeps f*cking up he’ll finally lose my support. (Disclosure: I’m African-American.) He’s allowing Joe to follow him around?
Helen @ 90
Yeah. Lest anyone wonder anymore…
McNulty is fully in the bag. Damn shame.
N=1 says ,
Busted - may I ask which extension does that magical trick? Thanks.
Its called split browser and IIRC, it’s about 3 pages in on the add on list.
Sorry I can’t be more specific.
I’m not real savvy with these things.
Biodun @ 95
Disclosure, I’m Norwiegan American and I’ve had enough already!
“A*P*C Prosecutor Caught up in Justice Dept. Scandal”
http://www.forward.com/article.....artment-s/
A*P*C Prosecutor resigns
http://www.forward.com/blogs/c.....r-resigns/
If Fitzgerald had been taken out of the Libby investigation/trial how huge would that have been to the process and the hearing?
Is it huge that McNulty (resigned) was taken out of the A*P*C espionage trial via the Attorney General scandal?
How does his resignation effect that investigaion /trial?
Here’s how Charlie Cook analyses the senate races for 08:
Toss up races: Allard- gooper- Co. (in Cookspeak- this means Allard is probably toast).
LEAN towards incumbent:
dem Landrieu La.
Goopers Collins Me, Coleman Mn,
seven other races- two dem- five gooper- COULD become competitive although they are not currently
Pryor Ar dem, Johnson SD dem
Steven AK, Sununu NH, Dole NC, Domenici NM, Smith OR.–all goopers
Certainly FAVORS a dem pick up of a seat or two
Could lose one in La, and gain in Colorado and Mn.
McNulty: remembering stuff is hard.
“A*P*C Prosecutor Caught up in Justice Department Scandal” at Forward
http://www.forward.com/article.....artment-s/
McNulty is totally in the bag. This is going nowhere.
I guess it’s probably somewhat normal, but I still find it a little…creepy…or disturbing, or some other adjective, that all the people who have testified have indicated that they have meticulously combed the testimonies of everyone else and the documents released by the DoJ.
Just a soul-sad feeling you get when you think that they’re just trying to figure out what they can and cannot say–according to the documents, not the truth.
I’m still an idealist. Boo.
But now it’s Delahunt’s turn. He at least typically has a few neurons rubbing together.
Did McNulty just testify that he didn’t notice until recently that he couldn’t hire and fire people in his office? Has anyone entered or left his office since February 7, 2006? Did he not know about this for over a year? This isn’t about being out of the loop. It sounds more like being off planet.
Why is McNulty being so evasive?
Obviously, he knew nothing about what was going on with Goodling and Sampson and Gonzo and the WH. Why doesn’t that bother him?
He apparently has no clue as to how and why people were hired or fired even in his own office - if you are to believe him. I believe he knew nothing, but I do not understand why he is being so protective. It does not make sense at all.
He sounds like a bonehead. How can this be?
AnnieW at#18
That’s right. And outside of people who pay close attention to politics during non-election years, people here are probably not really aware of how far Joe is from their position. Joe seems to behave as if the people of CT are must misguided, and if we knew as much as he did about, well, everything we’d understand just how right he is. It’s just going to get worse.
I bet he seriously thinks he could be Bloomberg’s running mate.
jayt @ 101
And we thought what was going to happen?
I hesitate to support any candidate at this point in time. Many of our last “blue america” candidates used us as a toilet.
let’s get behind someone when it is time. we, the people, can’t show our approval of this ridiculous electioneering that now starts the day someone is elected. I received requests for money from candidates within weeks of the election.
this is why this country is so badly prepared for the disaster to come. we do not plan for anything based on infrastructure. we seem only to live for the now.
congress people deserve to be elected or not based on their performance. new ones based on their platform. if they are still standing, they will be elected. this is June, 2007. the election is still more than a dozen months. it is wrong and is based on the world of teevee
I am not sure I can ever vote again for someone that advertises. it seems that it would defeat the purpose.
Delahunt: You were the caboose in the process? You were left out of it?
Mc: Yes - may not have been intentional.
Delahunt: You were unaware until a month ago about the delegation order. It was clear that they should route it around you.
N=1,
It’s an extension.
jayt @ 101
And we thought what was going to happen?
Hugh @ 101
The Order was dessigned to be secret from him - I think…but you’d think he would be suspicious if suddenly Sampson and Goodling were trampling on his turf.
“Out of the loop” thrown off of the boat and caught up in the net.
“Zoned out”
My contempt for Joe Lieberman is infinite and eternal.
I know I’ve said this before, but since it is infinite and eternal it bears repeating.
jayt @ 103
‘Totally in the bag’ - what’s that mean?
LS @ 104
My guess: everyone in the senior administration of Bush’s government appears to be a bonehead. Or amnesiac. Or still not evolved from primitive life-forms.
Nov. 27 meeting. First direct communication to him about the “plan”.
Wordsmith @ 109
His isn’t going to say anything that is going to mean anything. Who’d a thunk it!
jayt @ 103
He was “out of the loop” but I feel like we are going around and around in the loop.
Who will be asking the questions that he said he is looking forward to?
Somebody got to him. They threatened this guy somehow. Why bother with the forceful and immediate statement on the day of Goodling’s testimony?
Why is it he never questioned why hiring/firing was repositioned to the little children just before he took the job? Was it because there was built-in plausible deniability?
Or was his denial on the day of Goodling’s testimony solely to get himself off the hook for any lawsuits the dismissed USA’s may file because their reputations were impugned by McNulty’s original testimony?
I had high hopes for this f*cker and he’s blown it. He can serve time too unless he produces in a big fat hurry. I hope Iglesias is already drafting a suit for defamation.
Del: Did Gonzalez call you in and say we have a list of 8 - what do you think?
Mc: Not before the calls to fire them. But I was in the Nov 27 meeting. It was about the plan. Was my first communication about this.
Del: AG said that he (McNulty) signed off on the names and would know best about the qualifications.
Someone must have threatened him. His reaction is inappropriate to the matter.
“I sincerely hope that if and when they do gain seats in the Senate in 08, they kick Joe to the curb in the fightin’ 111th. They shouldn’t even let him caucus with them anymore.”
Tell that to Harry Reid. he’s the one who embraced Lieberman earlier this year, leading a round of applause for the bastard and assuring him of seniority even though he’s not really a democrat anymore.
“He is such a Republican. How the folks in CT could have missed the slime trail is beyond me.”
That question should be directed to the Connecticut Post, the Hartford Courant, and all the other papers in the Nutmeg state that endorsed him. In the case of the Post, they seem to have been shamed into attacking Joe a lot on the op-ed page, but they’ve never mentioned their endorsement since: in fact they scrubbed it from the site. It’s hard to get a cached version too.
Did Delahunt just say McNulty was thrown under the bus, or was that my highly active imagination.
newtonusr @ 96