The above clip is one of my favorite scenes from The West Wing, wherein Leo reaches out to Josh after the glass-breaking incident -- the story about the man in the hole, and the friend jumping in to save him because he's already been there and knows the way out is priceless. And so we start this morning, together, in the hole with the rest of America...
Under the Bush Administration's watch, the rule of law and the very principles on which this nation was founded have been under assault. When I am asked, and I often am, why it is that I blog every day -- why I bother getting involved in politics at all when I could be doing something much more fun, and much less stressful, with my time, my answer is pretty much the same: because someone has to ask the questions that need asking and to demand accountability, and I am not willing to leave my child's future in the hands of someone else who may not do the work. And it is these questions about the restoration of the rule of law and respect for liberty and justice which get me up and at the keyboard every morning.
So, when I woke up to this today, I said that Nancy Keenan -- who sat on her hands and NARAL's mound of fundraising cash through both nomination fights -- and Joe Lieberman and every other spineless, non-fighting Bush-enabling person who didn't dare stand up to be counted when our nation needed them to do so were asking for a wake-up call as well. From the NYTimes:
Both Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. assured their Senate questioners at their confirmation hearings that they, too, respected precedent. So why were they on the majority side of a 5-to-4 decision last week declaring that a 45-year-old doctrine excusing people whose “unique circumstances” prevented them from meeting court filing deadlines was now “illegitimate”?It was the second time the Roberts court had overturned a precedent, and the first in a decision with a divided vote. It surely will not be the last....So the question is not whether the Roberts court will overturn more precedents, but how often, by what standard and in what terms. As to which precedents will fall next, there are several plausible candidates as the court enters the final days of its term, including the 2003 decision that upheld advertising restrictions in the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law; a 1968 decision that let taxpayers go to federal court to challenge government policies as violating the separation of church and state; and an antitrust price-fixing case from 1911. (In an 8-to-0 decision last term, the court overturned a pair of antitrust precedents from the 1940s that were noticeably at odds with modern antitrust analysis.)
Sometimes the court overrules cases without actually saying so. Some argue that this is what happened in April, when a 5-to-4 majority upheld the federal Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act without making much effort to reconcile that ruling with a decision in 2000 that found a nearly identical Nebraska law unconstitutional.
As a technical matter, the new decision, Gonzales v. Carhart, left the earlier ruling still on the books, doing its overruling “by stealth, without having the grace to admit that is what they were doing,” in the words of Ronald Dworkin, the legal philosopher, who wrote a highly critical appraisal of the new decision in The New York Review of Books last month. “Justices Roberts and Alito had both declared their intention to respect precedent in their confirmation hearings, and no doubt they were reluctant to admit so soon how little those declarations were worth,” Professor Dworkin said from London in an e-mail message....
The Roberts Court has already shown its willingness to tinker with precedent, turning on an ideological dime, on a number of occasions. And Roberts has only been Chief Justice since September 29, 2005. Imagine, as the years stretch out before us as a nation, what damage might be wrought in our names...and you see why Jane and I fought so hard against both the Roberts and Alito nominations from the start.
Overturning precedent is not always bad for the nation -- look at the differences between the Dred Scott decision (wherein the Court held that a slave of African descent could never become a citizen) and the Plessy decision (wherein the Court upheld the repugnant "separate but equal" doctrine) versus the later opinion of Brown v. Board of Education (wherein the Court declared the Plessy decision to be overruled by a doctrine of racial equality in public education).
Sometimes the sentiment of the country naturally moves forward from a place where discrimination or some other egregious conduct is no longer considered tolerable by a majority of the nation's citizens. We have seen that happen with civil rights laws, with equal rights for women, with questions of labor treatment and numerous other examples through the years of changes for the better -- which lift up a segment of society or a particular issue which had previously been shoved to the side or derided as unworthy of decent treatment only a few short years beforehand.
It is the decisions where we turn away from lifting up the powerless, to further dividing the nation into camps of those connected to power and those who are not -- where we turn away from the principles inherent in our founding and the possibilities of who we could be as a nation, and instead settle for who we are at the moment because it happens to suit the people in power, where we lose our way.
Or those weird rationalizations that get pretzel-twisted so that a blastocyst in a petri dish that is scheduled to be thrown out on Tuesday from the in vitro clinic where it's been in deep freeze for three years is more important than the life of a living, breathing human being who might be saved through a tiny portion of those unused, soon to be in a trash can cell fragments. Or where the life and mental health of a living, breathing, all-too-feeling woman, rape or incest victim or otherwise, is treated as less than nothing when compared to a life that may never, ever come to pass.
These are not abstract problems to be considered in a vacuum. As Justice Thurgood Marshall understood all too well from his work for the NAACP, and his life as a black man in a racially oppressive nation, the real world has enough horrors of its own for all of us to look square in the face and try to solve for the betterment of us all -- we don't need to invent fake reasons to inflict more misery on each other in the name of God and man.
Former Justice Thurgood Marshall, who was instrumental in the Brown argument when he was a lawyer for the NAACP, is quoted at the end of the NYTimes article this morning, and it is telling how apt that quote is today as well:
“Power, not reason, is the new currency of this court’s decision making,” Justice Marshall declared on the final day of the court’s 1990 term.
The way forward with the Supreme Court is to once more establish balance and reason in the face of the current swing toward ideological enforcement. The nation loses when the Court's balanced is tipped too far either way -- the well-reasoned discussion and dialogue behind-the-scenes at the Court has given way to an atmosphere of divided camps, just as it had in Thurgood Marshall's day near the end of his tenure on the bench. And the nation will continue to suffer for it, so long as this is allowed to continue unabated.
This is why it is crucial to elect a Democrat to the Presidency in the next election.
It is the Presidential prerogative to appoint new justices to the Supreme Court, with the advice and consent of the Senate. The nation needs a more balanced approach to the law -- and to its political implications -- than what we have now, and the only way to obtain this is for new justices to be appointed by a liberal President whose appointees will provide an intellectual counterbalance and counterargument to those currently serving on the court.
We must find a way out of this together.
The answer, oddly, to this judicial question is a political one: as the Founders envisioned, the nation gets off kilter during times of crisis or during times of war, and then the political will of the people eventually swings the balance back toward the center and eventually to the other side. We saw the first wave of that in the last election cycle when the Democratic party overtook both houses of Congress as a first step to check the enormous power grab of the Bush presidency.
Justices Ginsberg and Stevens cannot be expected to pull the entire court on their own shoulders for the rest of eternity -- and in order to ensure that some counterbalance is added in any new appointments, there must be a Democratic President elected to make those appointments.
And we must work even harder going into the next election cycle to swing things back into balance again with more Democratic gains so that they will have the ability to reverse so many of the wrongs that have been visited on our nation for more than six years now.
Sidney Blumenthal has a frightening glimpse as to why the Republican party cannot be relied upon to cleanse itself:
In private, Bush administration sub-Cabinet officials who have been instrumental in formulating and sustaining the legal "war paradigm" acknowledge that their efforts to create a system for detainees separate from due process, criminal justice and law enforcement have failed. One of the key framers of the war paradigm (in which the president in his wartime capacity as commander in chief makes and enforces laws as he sees fit, overriding the constitutional system of checks and balances), who a year ago was arguing vehemently for pushing its boundaries, confesses that he has abandoned his belief in the whole doctrine, though he refuses to say so publicly. If he were to speak up, given his seminal role in formulating the policy and his stature among the Federalist Society cadres that run it, his rejection would have a shattering impact, far more than political philosopher Francis Fukuyama's denunciation of the neoconservatism he formerly embraced. But this figure remains careful to disclose his disillusionment with his own handiwork only in off-the-record conversations. Yet another Bush legal official, even now at the commanding heights of power, admits that the administration's policies are largely discredited. In its defense, he says without a hint of irony or sarcasm, "Not everything we've done has been illegal." He adds, "Not everything has been ultra vires" -- a legal term referring to actions beyond the law. The resistance within the administration to Bush's torture policy, the ultimate expression of the war paradigm, has come to an end through attrition and exhaustion. More than two years ago, Vice President Dick Cheney's then chief of staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby and then general counsel David Addington physically cornered one of the few internal opponents, subjecting him to threats, intimidation and isolation. About that time, the tiny band of opponents within approached Karen Hughes, newly named undersecretary of state for public diplomacy, hoping that the longtime confidante of President Bush, now assigned responsibility for the U.S. image in the world, might be willing to hear them out on the damage done by continuation of the torture policy. But she rebuffed them.Two weeks ago, Hughes unveiled her major report, extolling "our commitment to freedom, human rights and the dignity and equality of every human being," but making no mention of detainee policy. The action part consists of another of her campaign-oriented rapid-response schemes, this one a Counterterrorism Communications Center, staffed by military and intelligence officers, to rebut the false claims of terrorists. Asked whether the administration's policies might be a factor contributing to the problem, Sean McCormick, the State Department spokesman, replied, "You're always going to get people criticizing policy."
Gen. David Petraeus' declaration on May 10 against torture reflected less the ringing authority of an order than the impotence of a personal credo. "Beyond the basic fact that such actions are illegal, history shows that they also are frequently neither useful nor necessary," he said. But his moral sentiment had been dismissed long before he had uttered it. The commander's strongly worded statement, putting him by implication in the category of "people criticizing policy," had no effect on the elaborate system of "enhanced interrogation techniques," black site prisons, maintenance of Guantánamo, or the 20,000 Iraqi prisoners incarcerated on U.S. military bases without due process. Petraeus has no more influence over the president who says he listens to his military commanders than the commanders who have opposed the policy since its inception.
There is no taking of responsibility for mistakes or for repeatedly and consciously overstepping the bounds of law simply because they think they can. (And I note, for the record, that Sidney has both I. Lewis Libby and David Addington, the Cheney legal enforcement squad for torture policy, cornering some other Bush Administration official for daring to ask questions about an extra-legal, anti-Geneva Convention tactic that the Vice President's office has advanced. Swell folks, aren't they?) There is no sunshine in terms of the exposure of wrongdoing and errors by those within the Administration who have witnessed them first hand -- there is only a pervasive atmosphere of self-preservation and keeping one's mouth closed and hoping things will get better without any individual intervention. But we all know that this will not happen with the Bush Administration -- things will not change, because they consistently refuse to admit -- to themselves or to the public -- that things need to change, because there is fundamentally no acknowledgment that any mistakes have been made.
The President recognizes only his authority to do as he wishes -- one only need look to his myriad signing statements for a tiny glimpse of what has been attempted in his name to understand how pervasive and how ego-driven so much of this has been.
The same can be said for the Roberts Court, especially in the way that the precedent was overridden without any real explanation as to why this was necessary in the Gonzales v. Carhert decision from earlier this month. We are in for a very bumpy ride for the next year and a half. The nation needs healing -- our divisions are growing ever wider, as our problems grow more difficult and more devastating by the day. But such healing cannot come through artifice and obfuscation, and it certainly cannot come without some personal accountability on all sides of the messes that have been made in our name.
This disrespect for the rule of law has been more than pervasive in the Bush Administration -- it is a fundamental tenet of their supporters that the rule of law must be changed to suit their view of how the world ought to work. Not so that the oppressed or the downtrodden can get a fair shake, or so that equality and justice might prevail, but rather so that they and their cronies might benefit and further profit from the increasing divide between those with connections and those without.
It is ultra-conservative ideology writ large for fun and profit for the neocons, the Federalist Society enforcement squad, and their hangers-on. And the re-shaping of America's courts in the image of Robert Bork is only one of their goals toward ideological dominance and control. Instead of tyranny of the majority, what we face today is tyranny of the largest egos with the most to gain for the fewest in number who wish to climb the ladder of success on the backs of anyone who gets in their way, and to hell with the long-term consequences for the nation as a whole.
That is wrong. Worse, it is un-American.
And so, here we are, in this mess with no easy answers. Let us find our way out together...not just for our own sakes, but for the sake of generations to come. We deserve better than what we are getting at the moment. Let us stand up and say so.
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Mornin’ Christy.
Morning Busted. How are you this morning? Personally, I’m in need of more coffee. This one was a doozy to write…
near zed!
morning Christy - thanks for caring about our future - and our Republic.
Whatever happened to the idea of “strict construction”?
Christy - others have posted this Raw Story headline on the previous thread: Cheney declares VP office not part of executive branch: Soon…
Bless you, Christy. (((hug)))
Excellent post Christy.
OT…Gotta run soon, but I am sure your little peanut will love the tea party. I have one or two pictures if you’d like me to send them to you to enhance the excitement.
Feel free to email me at kdickso AT emory.edu
Phoenix at 6 — Thanks. Back atcha. :)
I’m afraid of rectangles too…
It’s not just the SCOTUS that is worrisome, it’s also all the federal judges that have been ‘packed’ by Rove and the rest. This will have implications for our children’s kids and beyond.
Your’e not kidding! It Is a doozy!
Took me a while just to read it!
Of course, I have to slow down when I read things like this so I can comprehend what I am reading.
*g*
Raw Story update: Cheney tells agency that Vice President’s office is not part of the executive branch
If nothing else, the damage done to the Supreme Court is evidence enough why there should not be another Republican president for 30 years.
Thanks Stephen, I was just about to go see it if had broken yet.
wow. you aint kidding. quite a doozy.
btw, nothing new on PACER as of now. will check again at lunch. breaks over. back to work.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 4
It was a lie.
So, if the Vice President’s office is not part of the executive branch, then in which branch does it reside? Don’t tell me he’s going to claim it’s in the legislative branch because the VP is president of the Senate.
Throw the book at these people. Then throw away the key.
(TPM has a post about Schlozman and just exactly what kind of lawyers he wanted. It just keeps getting worse. We have to get them out of government, and we have to get them out of it permanently. Now.)
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 5
Thanks for mentioning this. I just read through the Waxman letter to Cheney, and it’s loaded for bear. Security breach concerns, retaliation against the National Archives concerns, cover-up concerns - you name it, and it’s in the letter.
Is this the long-awaited sunshine finally making its way into the vampire’s coffin?
A new Gallup poll shows that confidence in the Supreme Court is at an all time low. Only 34% of those polled have confidence in the court. As the final arbiter of what our constitution stands for this is frightening to me. If people do not have confidence in the law, there is very little incentive to actually follow the law.
After years of belittlement from the right (activist judges) on issues such as abortion and gay marriage, this low level of confidence is not surprising. The overturning of precedent will only exacerbate this problem because it makes to court seem even more unprincipled. This is especially true the precedent that is overturned is only a few years old.
I am fearful that it will get worse before it gets better. On a social level, if we don’t want things to get ugly (crime, riots, etc.) a concerted effort will need to be made to shore up the belief in the rule of law. When social institutions lose support, we have lost much of that which binds the nation together. The poll suggests that the public is losing support for ALL of the major social institutions. Check it out. http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27946
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 12
Is anyone surprised by this?
nice clip, Christy, thanks for that!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 4
Strict obstruction?
Stare Decisis…must be “too” quaint for Roberts and Alito. Kinda like Abu Gonzales finds the Geneva Conventions “too” quaint. Kinda like Junya finds the feckin’ Constitution “too” quaint. Kinda like every weasel in God’s Own Party finds the Truth “too” quaint.
Who knew? Why, we did, doncha know?
Great post Christy. But Sidney Blumenthal cannot do this to us! Who is the spineless, running scared “key framer of the war paradigm” whose rejection of it would have a “shattering impact”? If he really believes what Sidney says he really owes it to the World to speak out. Out him now, I say.
We seem to be at a stage where there is plenty of bile being exchanged between congress and the administration- but no wounds are being inflicted- like bickering busybodies.
btw, folks, I am told that C-Span3 wil be covering the McNulty testimony today. Just FYI.
McNulty starting noon, going thru approx 2:30 eastern.
Good morning, CHS, & thanks for writing this important post.
While I’m at it, thanks for the incredible amount of research & work you’ve done on all the posts this year. “Finding the Way Out Together” is yet another example of the diligence & clarity of thought in all your writing. I can’t imagine doing all the research & revising involved in posting here when my daughter was the age of yours (mine’s now 20).
Not the gushy type (as anyone who knows me can attest), but here goes- thanks for wearing so many hats for so long, for FDL and us all. Been wanting to say this a long time…
Jwoods @ 22
Is anyone surprised by this?
I suppose some are, but this reaction by the OVP to increasing requests from the Democratic-led House has been predicted by several commenters here since last summer.
Excellent post, Christy.
I am awed by how these folks can look you right in the face and lie to you, knowing you know they are lying, and reveling in the fact you can’t do anything about it.
I want to live to see them proven wrong about that last bit.
Bless the Christy’s, Jane’s and Digby’s of the world for leading the way.
Marie at 30 — Aw, thanks much. What a lovely thing to say. :)
Praire’s Half Dozen — A Task List for Democracy:
1. Elect a Democratic President who understands the mess and is willing to do the hard work of cleanup.
2. Elect more Democratic Senators and Congresspeople and keep their feet to the fire.
3. Establish a truth-and-reconciliation commission that will get to the truth…concurrent with AG Fitzgerald tasked to pursue and prosecute crimes committed by govt officials and others.
4. Firewall all Bush appointees within the bureaucracy and assign ‘em to new bureaucratic offices in the Aleutian Islands…I understand there’ll be a handy new bridge.
5. Resolve to be ever vigilant and educate our children and our children’s children so we can fulfill these words: never again.
6. Send virtual bouquets of roses to Christy and Jane and Scarecrow and all the posters who are true warriors for Democracy.
I am a believer in the Supreme Court. I strongly believe they will vote in favor of the interests of the State and against the interests of the common man every time from here on out.
“Waxman noted that Cheney’s office had declared itself not affected by an executive order amended by President George W. Bush in 2003 regarding classification and declassification of government materials.”
So, doesn’t this mean that if Cheney leaked classified information to someone, he had no authorization to do so? Therefore, if that is true, then the finger goes right to him, or right to Bush.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 4
Oh, you mean that highly-elastic concept that means whatever Nino Scalia says it does at any given time?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 28
Excellent!
Jwoods says
June 21st, 2007 at 8:17 am
…for purposes of securing classified information, the Vice President’s office is not an ‘entity within the executive branch’
Is anyone surprised by this?
A little bit.
Wanna bet that he won’t still claim the VP’s Office to be Executive with regard to assertation of privilege?
The numbers of late term abortions alone show just how badly the Court’s anti-choice April decision really was decided, pure patriarchy at it’s absolute worst
Read for yourselves the numbers involved, and then resolve to electorally crucify EVERY politician who votes and endorses keeping women as 2nd rate citizens incapable of making their own decisions
Abortion By The Numbers
Oklahoma kiddo @ 4
You could run a season of talk shows just on the dichotomy between what they say and what they do,just on that one subject. For example:
Reconcile “To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states…”
with their free market BS.
The administration has learned that if it asserts ANYTHING- no matter HOW stupid- there is no effective way of challenging the assertion.
Waxman can go to the courts I suppose and get a ruling about the time that the administration vacates. I’m gettin sick of this shit- it never ends and there seems to be no effective way of MAKING it end. Once you elect ASSHOLES to the White House- yer stuck with em for the duration I guess.
Can Roberts and Alito be impeached? What if no Supreme steps down in the next 8 years? How long do you think the Dems can hold on to all three branches?
- and it was the bad faith of the repubs that led to all the new conservative district judges on the federal level - how can we get more representation on that level without having to impeach those new judges? Do we have to wait for all of these evil people to DIE????
Christy,
Keep laying it down, line after line. Build this record of calling for justice. I referred yesterday to Samuel Adams as someone we need today. You are more than doing your part.
I believe we live in a time as critical to our country as was its founding. We are in dire need of patriots.
Two weeks ago, Hughes unveiled her major report, extolling “our commitment to freedom, human rights and the dignity and equality of every human being,” but making no mention of detainee policy. The action part consists of another of her campaign-oriented rapid-response schemes, this one a Counterterrorism Communications Center, staffed by military and intelligence officers, to rebut the false claims of terrorists.
I’m concerned that rather than military and intelligence officers from the uniformed services, CIA and/or NSA, the personnel manning this new setup will be Blackwateresque contractors, operating completely outside normal review or normal reach of the law.
Great court essay, Christy. I think that by the time the cases currently under review by the Supremes run their course, it will be plainly evident that the main reasons Roberts and Alito were elevated wasn’t so much their religious zeal as it was and is their corporation-friendly history on the bench.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 33
Welcome much. My Dad, rest his soul, who was not an effusive man by any stretch, used to tell us kids that an “attaboy” every once in a while was good for us because it showed he actually was paying attention to all our hard work…
ET at 45 — Thanks. This one has been building up for a while — it all needed to come out in a rush this morning, I suppose.
Rawstory reporting that McNulty and Gonzo tightening up their story. I thought you weren’t supposed to do that.
http://www.therawstory.com/
My computer is screwy, I’m not sure this goes right to the page, but it’s there.
Seems to me that if the Veep’s Office says it doesn’t have to archive its records, then it it has no defense against the issuance of a subpoena for those very records.
From the Raw Story piece,
Now there’s a real surprise(not).
jayt-
Well it has the defense that they don’t exist on account of Cheney ate em!
If ya wanna be a tyrannical president- ya need a friend as AG- at least one firm lesson from the Clusterfuck years.
Awesome post, Christy.
This next story is going to rock around for a few days:
Reporters/jounalists who made political contributions.
Wait for the cries about the “liberal media.”
“Records? We don’t have no steenkin records”
Is anyone surprised that Roberts and Alito have demonstrated that what was said before confirmation hearings do not coincide with recent decisions? Really people, Republicans are willing to lie, steal and cheat to achieve their political objectives. The Dems in Congress have and continue to demonstrate their complete inability to grasp this reality. Is it any wonder that Congress has an approval rating of 14%? Can’t do anything to impact the course of war and peace, can’t hold meaningful hearings that hold the Administration accountable for their crimes. McNulty is going to testify today and there would still seem to be those who think this time things will be different. This hearings have demonstrated the ineptitude of both the House and Senate Judiciary hearings. Democrats just want to play nice to show the American public how civil they are when all they do is demonstrate their incompetence.
McNulty realized that he doesn’t want to get Gitmoized by the thugs that run America’s justice system now.
Way to go Paul, moral coward and colluder.
-GSD
P.S. Hack and Gonzales lackey Rachel Paulose gets the Andrew Card Degree Treatment by her own staffers as they erupt into sustained applause after a departing employee praises the courage of those who resigned in protest from the Paulose/Gonzales sham of a mockery of a Justice Dept.
Please, more public ridicule and scorn for these people.
I watched all of the Senate Watergate hearings and was horrified at the Nixon Administration’s threat to our system. However, I think this is worse. Most of the younger types involved in Watergate seemed to be gradually led astray through ambition and trust in a few older superiors. The Bush Administration seems to be packed with an even scarier type of Machiavellian plotters who very intentionally subvert our system. Where did they come from? Who taught them civics and American history? Who taught the 28 percent of the public who still don’t get it?
It may be frustrasting it takes so long to get results, but Waxman’s letters are a joy to read. This time it’s especially where he asks, as if genuinely seeking an answer, where the Veep thinks his department does exist.
Chetnolian @ 58
Yeah, Waxman, Conyers and Leahy write great letters. Too bad they can’t run a great investigation.
I read the comments and wonder if we really are “the far laft”. If so what do the Dems who aren’t “far left” believe?
Read frustrating in 58. Sorry. I agree with PMA at 57 and I’ve said it before here, this is much more serious than Watergate.
Bluetoe at 59 — I’d quibble with that. I think the SJC with Leahy, Whitehouse, Feingold and others have done a very good job in a lot of their hearings. The Whitehouse work alone lately has been stellar. I think you are selling them far too short, frankly, because they have dug out a LOT of good information on which to build for future work.
Re stem cell research, from Tony Snow’s WH press briefing yesterday
When confronted by real scientific opinion, Snow blows it off as PR, which is a bizarre statement from someone whose job is PR and whose credentials in scientific areas is non-existent. But then he goes completely weird claiming that Bush, despite his veto, has done more for stem cell research than anyone else. Snow has become worse than a sick, sad caricature of a liar.
He is currently doing chemo for a recurrence of colon cancer. I really have to wonder where he would stand on the issue if his cancer had no good treatment and if a promising approach to it was being similarly embargoed by a know nothing President.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news.....620-7.html
rwcole @ 52
And a stacked SCOTUS, DC Circuit Court and as many fed judges as possible who will tow the party line. sigh*
PMA@67, most of these people are graduates of the Nixon regime. Rumsfield, Cheney, Rove are just 3 of many that learned from Watergate and were determined to not make the same mistakes in regards to being exposed for the criminals they are.
Christy, Great post and excellent reminder for us all to keep fighting the good fight. On your blog yesterday dikane referred to some court decisions as pretzel logic.. Sounds about right.
I’ll tell you something…we might be able to get the president to turn on the vp…that might actually preserve some kind of legasy for him
check out this from think progress…we can use this to begin the wheels spinning;
According to a letter from House oversight chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA):
– Since 2003, Cheney’s office has failed to provide data on its classification and declassification activities as required by Executive Order 12958, which President Bush has amended and endorsed.
– In 2004, Cheney’s office specifically intervened to block an on-site inspection by the Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO), which is a requirement of the executive order.
Bluetoe @ 55
The fact that Americans hold Congress in lower esteem than the President is, IS the crisis. I am searching for ways that Americans can feel connected to a government they perceive as not “of them”. This alienation of government from the governed in a time of war is dangerous; this war has already alienated us from the world.
And then there’s Iran.
Redd
On the whole, the hearings have been fine- but unless there is some action following the hearings- people figure that it was all just partisan chest pounding and ignore it. It isn’t clear to me that any tangible benefit is coming out of em- what do you think?
When a Democratic President wins:
Step 1: Impeach Scalia, Thomas, and Kennedy for meddling in politics in Bush v. Gore
Step 2: Impeach Roberts and Alito for being illegitimately appointed by someone who was not duly elected president.
Step 3: Require resignations and reapplication by all DOJ Civil Service employees hired after January 2001. Maintain seniority of all who are rehired.
You know, impeachment is NOT just a word for Presidents or VPs or AGs. Impeachment is a word that applies to judges too. The precedent that needs to be set is simply that unqualified liars need to go. Period. Roberts AND Alito (AND Thomas) lied to Congress in order to get confirmed. Also, there must be automatic suspicion rendered against any and ALL appointees presented by the Bush Administration. NONE of the Admin picks for ANY office can be trusted to clean. They, de facto, should receive a LOT of attention and investigation and impeachment, whenever they ar found to be totally inappropriate and wrong for the USA and the People.
Janda @ 21
I think you could also add them handing the 2000 election which is what started this whole nightmare.
I will not repeat my standard SCOTUS rant here, but just briefly point out again that if you look at the history of the Supreme Court it has almost never been on the side of ordinary Americans.
snowbird42 @ 60
The ones who aren’t on the far left(DLCers and blue dogs)only believe in the next campain fund check. Myself, I don’t feel far left. Unless wanting honest and principled government makes me a part of the far left.
I wonder if Scalia has accepted favors for his positions over the years…any way to find out??
BREAKING — once again, walton’s “footnotes
do the walking” — in his opinion, just released!
do take a look!
link to full-opinion there, as well. . .
p e a c e
Helpless Dancer @ 73
I dont either. What we talk about here is mainly commonsense, honesty and respect for the law.
CHS@62, there have been flashes of brilliance demonstrated by Dems in several of the hearings but as a whole the performance of most on the committees has been lackluster at best. They haven’t demonstrated a coordinated strategy like the Republicans (divert, stall and praise the witnesses). I hope I’m proven wrong but having watched the Watergate hearings from beginning to end this group doesn’t hold a candle to Ervin, Dash et al..
There was an active right-wing movement in the last century, led by a Congressman from Michigan named Jerry Ford, to impeach Earl Warren for less heinous “crimes.” Can’t we, with an impeachment majority after 2009, make a move on Alito and Roberts for their misleading and mendacious stare decisis answers during confirmation? They lied; let’s get two replacements!
Alternatively, how about expanding SCOTUS? Rehnquist complained constantly about the workload for Justices. Let’s name a court-packing bill after him, and memorialize the initiative that way to neutralize the right-wing howls. Then put three real Justices in place on a twelve-person Court, appointed by the next Democratic president.
This is why it is crucial to elect a Democrat to the Presidency in the next election.
Why, I think that the S.Ct is pretty diverse already.
You’ve got “the individual has no rights” (Roberts and Alito)
Brain-dead (Thomas)
Bug-fuck crazy (Scalia)
Needs to be tazered every morning just to be sure he’s awake and paying attention (Kennedy)
and Justice Stevens, who is what, about 147 years old? (think vitamins, sir - lots and lots of vitamins)
Nah, everything’s swell - “my fellow Americans, I present to you - Justice Yoo”!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 62
I’m all in for Whitehouse in charge of getting the Justice Department cleaned out.
LS
Sure- Cheney took him on at least one duck hunt which neither paid for- with a value of 50 grand or so. Everyone knows it- nobody does anything about it.
I have worked with guys like these. When faced with a decision, the first questions they ask are :
1) What’s the worst thing that can happen to me if I do this?
2) What’s the likelihood of it happening?
If the worst ain’t bad- and/or the liklihood is low of it happening- then “if it feels good- DO it”.
They really don’t care about law or rules or anything else - unless they’re likely to get caught and suffer some REAL punishment.
perris @ 67
raw story eleaborates
Oh gee, Roberts and Alito lied to Congress?
gee that’s a surprise. heckuva job keeping your powder dry, Harry Reid. That was a really brilliant fuckin’ decision. Hey, give Lieberman a hug for me.
Helpless Dancer @ 73
the “far left” you hear about on corporate media is actuall the center
WHAT WE BELIEVE IS NOT FAR LEFT AND WE ARE THE MAJORITY…however the neo fascists that own the media are able to call us “far left”
LS @ 74
Scalia goes to fancypants conferences, and he shoots prairie birds with Cheney.
TeddySanFran @ 78
I say pack that fu*ker like a bong.
-GSD
McNulty up on CSPAN3.
It’s seems the only option is to continue to seek impeachment of every administration official that has broken the law. This is the only way to nullify the administration and all his appointments. The point must be that this man was not fit to serve as commander and cheif and as a result his appointments are invalid. We have to make this point loud and clear so as to remove any shred of credibility because credibility is power. Truth is power. Speaking it only makes the U.S and it’s citizens stronger, but we must make certain that what we say is truth. If Bush committed treason (and there is evidence that this is possible) then why should any of his appointments stand? I think it’s a fair question.
hearing’s about to start - couple of signs behind McNulty - “Fire Gonzo” and “Impeach”.
What will it take to remove Keenan from NARAL and remake it into a useful organization again?
Code Pink is @ the hearing in spades…
Thank you Christy.
Your very last sentence gets right to the heart of something I’ve been mulling over lately.
The public [read: voters] are getting more restless and angry by the minute. This could help Democratic Party candidates, or it could hurt them, depending on what Democratic lawmakers do - now.
So far, Reid & other leaders seem of the opinion: if a measure has no chance of overriding a veto, it’s not worth the effort to bring forth the legislation at all.
WRONG! (oops. apologies for shouting)
More and more, this [back-room-dealing & nuttin’ else w/o guarantee of success down the road bidness] strikes me as a flawed, dangerous strategy. It makes the Democrats look helpless and whiney, and leaves them vulnerable to every charge by repubs that they’re a “do-nothing” party with no plan.
At this point, the public’s so angry and put-off by the whole Washington scene, I think we’re teetering on the brink of another “throw-ALL-the-bums-out” debacle, unless Democrats separate themselves from the muck, and fast!
I’d like to see Reid & Pelosi bring forth every proposal they feel deserves passage, and do it boldly, regardless of jr’s veto threats and repug congresscritters’ threats of stalling & idiotic dances over whether or not they’d support an over-ride.
That way, whether important legislation passes or fails, at least the Democrats will be seen as the party that cares enough to TRY to help the people and WORKS to forge a better future for all.
just my 2cents
Dems need a fillibutster proof senate and the Whitehouse to get much done in the current climate.
Our government has turned into a punch and judy show- fine if ya like cheap entertainment- not much good if ya want something done.