In a rather shocking move, Barak Obama's General Counsel Robert F. Bauer adds his voice to the chorus calling for Scooter Libby to be pardoned, but he believes he is coming at it from a different angle than the Libby apologists:
To Bush's antagonists on left, a pardon would be only another act in the conspiracy -- a further cover-up, a way of getting away with it. But this is the entirely wrong way of seeing things. A pardon is just what Bush's opponents should want.
A pardon brings the president into the heart of the case. It compels him to do what he has so far managed to avoid: accept in some way responsibility for the conduct of his Administration in communicating with the public about national security and in its treatment of dissent. If the pardon would be politically explosive, then this is what the administration's critics, hungering for accountability, have been waiting for. The case against this government on the larger charge of abuse of power is diminished, made even laughable, by resolving into a 30-month sentence for an obscure figure named Libby.
This may be well and fine for a Presidential candidate trying to massage a potential pardon into position as a campaign issue, but it's an extremely cynical argument, and I really can't imagine what the Obama campaign was thinking. This is about the rule of law, not political posturing. And as much as all the "liberal progressives" Bauer is preaching to at arms' length would like to see Bush publicly tied to the scandal, at this point in time we'd rather see some respect for the judicial process.
Scooter Libby has a way to go free, and that's to go to Patrick Fitzgerald and say that Dick Cheney ordered him to leak Valerie Plame's identity to Judith Miller. That's what the 30 months in jail is designed to elicit.
Libby did not just "lie," he obstructed justice. He's not some poor patsy, some innocent scapegoat, a good soldier just doing his job. But that's how the clubbish DC elite seem to see him, and in his willingness to ignore Libby's culpability in the situation and the penalty he should most assuredly pay having been found guilty by a jury of his peers Bauer shows himself to be yet another DC lawyer with little regard for the judicial process that has managed to be successfully carried out despite tremendous opposition from those it threatens. There isn't all that much daylight between himself and the Libby apologists currently screeching in horror because "things like this just don't happen to people like us."
As Christy Hardin Smith says:
This isn't some political machination point -- this is a conviction on multiple felony counts by a duly constituted jury which reviewed copious evidence and reached a unanimous verdict after weeks and weeks of trial. And a defendant who was just given an enhanced sentence by a federal judge who pointed out that the rule of law must apply equally to every person -- including public officials, whose conduct ought to take into account their fiduciary obligation to the public. If Obama's chief counsel wants to throw that out to score some political points, then Obama ought to clairfy what his commitment is to the rule of law and upholding the constitution before he should even be considered a viable candidate for President of the United States.
If you want to tie Bush and Cheney to the leak of Valerie Plame's identity, it needs to be done in the appropriate legal context. We already have a judicial system, fragile though it may be at the moment. We believe in making it work.
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You can vote on whether Bauer is Wanker of the Day over at Kos. Tres for Sen. Clinton… or dos…
Ed*ard Teller @ 2
There is too much mantequilla on dos tres, Manuel.
By suggesting that the 30 month sentence is too harsh (as if!), Bauer is mouthing Republican talking points. And that only helps them.
Stupid!
Strike one!
WOW…..the list of who really deserves our support is certainly getting shorter…isn’t it????
Yeah, Obama is revealing himself to be just another insider…. first endorsing U.S. imperialism around the world…. now letting the good old boys go. Incredibly disappointing. Screw him.
Why does Obama hate justice?
Let’s pardon all the criminals. That will show them they can’t avoid the rule of law. Yes, sir, yes,siree.
Anyone who has a problem with this can tell Obama here.
Obama’s squishiness on this and other issues are why I do not support him.
He appears to me too ready to appease the money folks.
Edwards, on the other hand, has mightily pissed Wall Street off. During a Chris Matthews interview, Jim Cramer said Edwards is the man they fear the most.
I can think of no better endorsement.
I was ALWAYS hesitant about Obama and his pius rantings that he would display at various times…this puts it all in line for me…..another insider pandering to lawless low-info voters….plain and simple.
Good post. (”Scooter Libby has a way to go free, and that’s to go to Patrick Fitzgerald and say that Dick Cheney ordered him…”)
Harry Belafonte has been saying that he is not hearing from Obama what he needs to hear in order to support him. I don’t think this is anything HB wants to hear.
Alice @ 10
Thanks Alice
I do have to agree about an “obscure figure named Libby”. It’s not like he was so important. I mean yes, he worked at the White House but I bet millions of Americans could say that. And it wasn’t like he was the top person there. He wasn’t even the first or second. He came in after Bush, Cheney, and Rove. I mean sheesh, the 4th most important person at some place called the White House and suddenly he’s important. That is just so not right, right? I mean how much more obscure can you get.
What about Valerie? Should she have lost her career? Why is it in the small town Peyton Place on the Potomac we have more sympathy for Libby than the Wilsons? Weren’t they neighbors as well?
And what about US? We lost an asset. Presumably, she knew more about WMDs than the bozos who outted her. We are not safer and Scooter is partially responsible for that.
God, I hate these people! They are as frickin’ clueless as the residents of Versailles back in 1789. They need a visit from the Sans Coulotte for an attitude adjustment.
Actually, I don’t really give a flying f$%^ how much they gnash their teeth and rend their garments over poor Scooter in jail as long as he ends up there. Let them act like babies.
Just called Obama’s office…they are pretending they don’t know about this incident…YEAH RIGHT!
We saw some friends a few months ago that pounded on us about Obama for an entire weekend. I was lukewarm about him previously. I’m now convinced: He’d be a disaster as President.
If I wanted to vote for a Republican, I’d do it. If he’s mouthing (and voting,) RW talking points this early in the process, he’s not what I need in the White House.
-S
So is this how the Obama presidency would play games with justice?
Strategerie @ 19
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SUPER DOUBLE DITTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bauer says: “But if the President pardons Libby, and by this act makes the case his own, he will have picked up a portion of the cost. Libby will fall back, restored to obscurity. Bush will step forward and take the lead role. He will have to explain himself; he will have to answer questions.”
This has to be the most asinine and juvenile statement that I’ve heard in ages. “The president will have to explain himself; he will have to answer questions”!!!??? Oh yeah? Who is going to make him? The ass-kissing media? The weak and spineless Democrats in Congress? He’s the deciderer! He’s the commander-in-chief! He doesn’t have to answer to anybody!
Wake up and smell the coffee, Mr. Bauer. Then, get real.
EVERYTHING is political to these guys. It’s all about them. Keeping the men & women in Iraq is political too.
I’m somewhat disappointed by this. Obama has some ’splaining to do.
After reading Bauer’s piece I agree that it is a deeply cynical, mendacious piece of crap from a long time political insider. Notwithstanding that, what does this say about Obama? Bauer is counsel ot the campaign, but does he hold any actual policy position? Does he reflect the views of the candidate or is this a personal piece?
If, in fact, he does represent Obama’s views on this, then shame on Obama. If not, then Barack needs to make a statement that he does not agree with his campaign’s counsel, and in the strongest terms. Then he needs to take a look at the control he has over his own message, and over his campaign and its personnel.
Anyway you slice it, however, this gives Barack a black eye. Is he now becoming the not quite ready for prime time candidate? Where is Al Gore when you need him?
Waxman calling for Doan to resign because she is a lying sack of sh*t.
Scooter ’squealing’, is the reason I think Mr. Fitzgerald is so adamant about a swift incarceration. I want Cheney, and/or Rove, and eventually one other individual to pay the piper for their misdeeds. Libby is a la carte. The others are the full course meal.
Davis kisses Doan butt!!!
Hugh @ 16
Well, all right then. Let’s just treat it like a practical joke.
“You’re going to jail for 30 months. Psyche! Oh, my God, you should have seen your face. Nahhh, we’re really after Rove.”
In the real world, I doubt that your position in the totem pole makes any difference when it comes to the commission of a crime.
jane you have mail - some CT news for you
Run Al Run
What do yoy expect from LIEberbush’s protege? He learned well. Scratch him from the list of even marginally credible candidates.
Bauer went out of his way to court controversy on this. He didn’t just post this on his blog. He went on the Huffington Post.
Obama cannot give a response like “that’s just Mudcat being Mudcat”.
Obama needs to unequivocally condemn Bauer’s statement. Then he needs to sever all ties with Bauer.
Morris Sheppard @ 25
I’m hearing Obama does not now support this and we’ll hopefully have something shortly, but the General Counsel is not like the guy who waters the plants. It’s an important, high profile post in a campaign and this stuff does not happen lightly.
Jane’s Assistant @ 31
I second that emotion!
This reminds me of so many Democratic “consultants” who talk publicly about their strategy instead of implementing it. Yes, it could be politically useful if Bush pardons Libby, and you should prepare to respond to that possibility. No, that doesn’t mean you say he should do it, unless you think that nothing matters except politics.
Stupid!
Jane@34….can’t wait to hear what Obama will do.
Why would Obama even touch this without direct questioning? This, quite simply, goes beyond the pale.
Is this also the position of the DLC and its other candidate HC?
both hands on head.. heavy sigh
Free Libby? Free Libby? Hmmm…. And by doing this, Bush will finally own accountability for outing Plame?
How about this instead: Libby goes to jail for the crime he committed (strange, no?). And, Congress pursues its oversight and gets Fitzgerald to the next step of “removing the sand from his eyes” and gathering the evidence that is clearly there about the “underlying” crime and we see a smidge of justice for a freaking change. Through that investigation Bush’s accountability will be made clear, instead of some faux connection arising out of a pardon.
Why is this so hard to understand? And what a lame political game plan to boot. I really, really know that Obama’s team is actually smarter than this. Right?
Who is Robert F. Bauer? Either he’s working for the other side, or he’s too dumb to be working for the right side if he can spew this: “The case against this government on the larger charge of abuse of power is diminished, made even laughable, by resolving into a 30-month sentence for an obscure figure named Libby.”
What kind of an idiot–with a law degree, yet–would imagine that Libby’s sentence resolves anything beyond the charges for which he was indicted, charged, and convicted. Once his 30 months are up, I’ll still be angry at him for what he and his folks did to this country, and for what they tried to do.
I’m angry as a taxpayer, because in addition to paying for a couple of wars and this administration’s other adventures, I also get to pay for the legal machinery required to deal with Mr. Scooter because he refused to act right. I’m angry that I paid his salary. I’m angry that I’m paying for all the other obstructions that this administration has erected to keep justice at bay.
I’m angry at Obama for hiring such a jackass. Democrats don’t need anyone whose thinking is this inverted. Leave it to Karl Rove, who shouldn’t be pardoned either.
Ahhhh poor Doan Davis and the goopers say she was abused…..everyone sigh…..
Thanks Alice — this is what I sent Obama:
Your support for a pardon for Scooter Libby demonstrates to me your lack of respect for the rule of Law. You just guaranteed that I will not vote for you — we don’t need another person with Inside-the-Beltway-itis in the Oval Office.
Jane Hamsher @ 34
How likely would it be that the campaign’s General Counsel would make a statement of this type without a candidate’s knowledge and blessing?
-S
p.s. Jane, it’s good to see you, and I hope it’s all going great.
It seems rather an elementary point, but what I (one of the aforementioned Bush antagonists) would like is that the next guy who thinks of lying to protect Dick Cheney’s skin decides he’d rather talk than spend 30 months in jail.
portia.vz @ 29
In the real world, it means everything. That is why there is one kind of justice for the Libbys of this world and why there is quite another for ordinary Americans.
If Libby had not occupied such a prominent position, the issue of a pardon would not have been raised. That is the logical contradiction in Robert Bauer’s argument. He can not be both prominent and obscure at the same time.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 27
Other than being historically scorned, what price would they pay? Bush has unfettered pardon powers. Nixon got away thanks to a pardon. His only weakness was that he cared enough to try to rehabilitate himself. Bush, Cheney, and Rove do not share that weakness.
OK, I’m zooming ahead over the other comments and will go back to read…but I just had to say I think it is a really BAD idea to allow a moronic president to pardon HIS OWN corrupt minions. Very bad. JMHO.
Bad.
Jane Hamsher @ 34
Even if he’s not someone who advises on policy or is supposed to represent the campaign to the public, it’s not just a high-level position, he’s their legal advisor, right? If Obama’s legal advisor is saying publicly that the law should be subordinate to political gain, he’d better fire his ass. We’ve had more than enough of that for the past six years.
My take on this has a nuance to it, I think.
From a legal and ethical point of view, Bush should NOT pardon Libby.
However, from a Democratic tactical point of view, if Bush pardons Libby, that might prove to be the straw that broke the camel’s back– a tipping point. The Watergate hearings were at a comparable point just before the Saturday Night Massacre.
From the tactical point of view, would a presidential pardon be “enough” of an outrage to trigger public opinion in favor of impeachment? That is what both sides are pondering right now, and that is exactly why talk of “commuting” Libby’s sentence has been raised– because it would blunt the outrage– at least a little.
Bob in HI
The fear factor, blackmail, may enter into the VP’s and prez’s thinking as it pertains to pardoning Libby. And after all, Bush and Cheney have demonstrated over and over again that they are not men of principle. It’s felt these two guys know only too well the effectiviness of blackmail and intimidation.
meet the new Barak
same as the old Barak
Chicago Machine pol.
All that ambition
No conscience.
Jane Hamsher @ 34
Thanks for the update Jane. For Obama’s sake I hope so, but I agree with xyz:
Unfortunately there is no way for Obama to put a good spin on this. Dem primary voters who are upset with the outing of Valerie and the coverup ought to tank him over this. And rightly so.
Buh bye Barack. I, for one, will not be heartbroken.
Whatever he does at this point (repudiate statement, sever ties with Bauer), Obama will still catch some flak. He’s a lawyer, for Chrissake.
Is there any doubt that by tonight we’ll all be hearing from the Free Libby crowd that ‘even Obama’s lawyer thinks he should be pardoned’?
In addition, I pointed out to Bauer, the same way I pointed out to Christy yesterday, that there’s a plan being floated whereby, should Walton order Libby to jailo pending appeal, Bush will exercise his right to grant respite, i.e. a temporary suspension of sentence, which he will use to stay enforcement of sentence ‘until all appeals have been exhausted’, which will take Scooter to the end of the term. At that point Bush will pardon Scooter and all of Bauer’s good reasons for granting the pardon (making Bush step up etc.) will vanish in the wind.
Wellll…I think it IS time for AL to run.
Bush can’t pardon Libby without being party to Obstruction of Justice and Fitzgerald is empowered past the office transition of the next President.
Nixon could not pardon himself, and in the act of Pardon, and its discussion, John Dean notes Nixon was risk of being party to Obstruction.
Bush can’t get the OVP to bail him out over conflict, and Cheney is too stubborn to resign, and Pelosi and Reid have the succession locked.
He is trying to consider gaming a recess appointment of Fred Thompson for Libby under Patriot via lame duck Gonzales.
Fred Thompson is the new Gerald Ford.
Tony Snow, “I don’t know if there is a process taking place for the pardon of Scooter Libby.”
“Process takes time”.
There we have it.
Jane - You said, “Scooter Libby has a way to go free, and that’s to go to Patrick Fitzgerald and say that Dick Cheney ordered him to leak Valerie Plame’s identity to Judith Miller.”
Is that a given, meaning the charges would be dropped AUTOMATICALLY if he comes forth now and tells the truth? Or is it simply ASSUMED that the judge will commute his sentence if he does what he should have done in the first place?
Brisingamen @ 42
My bold. ITA. Even if he retracts it, the stupidity has been published. Forget it. I like the timbre of his voice, but that’s it.
Still watching Edwards, Dodd, Gore, though.
Redshift @ 48
Does anyone really believe that this guy, who has years of experience working for politicians and on campaigns, would even think of publishing a piece like this without running it in front of his client first?
C’mon. Stupid we’re not
Bob Schacht @49:
I think the Paris Hilton case is a flag that shows us which way the wind is blowing. IF Bush is stupid enough to pardon Libby or commute his sentence, I think the public will react the same way they did about Hilton’s release.
I think Joe Six-pack’s attitude would be “the law is the law for everyone, the rich and powerful shouldn’t be treated differently.”
One down, many more to choose from.
Some of you jump to conclusions (and somtimes incorrect conclusions) so quickly.
But, hey, what do I know.
Conclude away!
Thompson as recess to pardon Libby after stepping up for AWOL.
Kestrel at 58 — A defendant always has the ability to try and strike a deal with the prosecution to alleviate some of his/her sentence by coming forward with information to advance another matter under investigation. It’s what gets done every day in the criminal process. However, any deal is subject to approval from the presiding judge. What Jane says is correct, if Libby came forward with the information he’s been obstructing from the investigation, he could very well try and strike a deal for a proffer from the government for less time — but it would ultimately be up to Judge Walton to accept that deal and impose new terms once it was presented to him. But it is done all the time for criminal defendants in all sorts of cases. This one just happens to be under a microscope because it is a high-ranking public official.
Gore/Feingold 08!!!!!!
Overwhelm his email on his campaign site.
Jane, thank you for this posting. Christy, thank you for your added insight.
After all Obama picked Leiberman as his mentor in the Senate
from the march 31 2006 Hartford Courant.
Joe-Bama!
Hugh @ 26
Did her testimony today provide anything that we didn’t already know? She seemed much better prepared today. I got up at 4:20 AM (Hawaii time) to watch this???
Bob in HI
kdh22 @ 63
Do you think that concluding that the GC of a campaign, who has years of experience in DC working for Pols and Candidates, wouldn’t publish a piece like this without running it past his client is ‘jumping to conclusions’? This isn’t some young inexperienced intern we’re talking about.
Hugh @ 45
Good point.
Jane Hamsher @ 34
Watering the plants can be important, too, dammit!
KestrelBrighteyes @ 58
I think what Jane means is that it’s the first minimum step toward possibly having his sentence commuted. It is neither automatic nor assumed, but short of Bush or the appeals court playing Calvinball with the process, it’s the way things are supposed to work.
Biodun @ 53
You really have to wonder how stupid these guys are. What Bauer did was so gratuitous. All he had to do was STFU on it. How blind can he be, how unqualified for his job, to regurgitate right wingnut talking points and think that is going to reflect well on a Democratic candidate. Has he been getting advice from Dan Burton?
Redshift @ 48
Another good point.
It’s brilliant gamesmanship to get in front of this as opposition, with the realization that a pardon makes Soocter party, a person Senior to Libby is technically obligated to respect of IIPA.
A Senior person at NSA, OVP, President.
Look at the second round of promotions, who moved up? Those most likely to suspect and in need of addition responsibility to try and claim Privilege.
Scooter’s out, Condi and Card are still there.
I’m really disgusted by this continuous barrage of escaping accountablity for the courtier class in DC. Libby committed a very serious crime of covering up potential treason by the VP. We give decades-long prison sentences to the girlfriends of drug dealers. There’s injustice in our legal system, but it’s not with regards to the ruling class.
Between idiotic ideas like this one - “Pardon Libby to slather Bush” and “take the timetables from the funding bill because it will mean the beginning of the end of the war” on our side, and the “we don’t believe in Evolution” and “Let’s Double the size of Gitmo” on the other nutty side, I’m left to wonder whether anybody really wants to be President in January,2009? Maybe we deserve Fred Thompson . . .
Question for Obama –
Is it really better to hire someone to shoot you in the foot than to do it yourself? I think you’ll be limping after this one for a while.
There seems no limit to the depths of depravity the Democrats will plumb. They’re really trying to reach “bipartisan” common ground with the Republicans down there at the bottom of the barrel. Barack The Peacekeeper Obama will be sure to follow anytime somebody else starts a parade.
The Libby Neocon Elite believe, above all, in the necessity of lying to the American people “for our own good.” The Democrats obviously admire this tactic, as practiced by Bush’s Public Relations Presidency in the name of imperial power, and are doing their best to emulate it.
PRETEND to be trying to end an occupation of a foreign land that plunders its wealth, and supposedly safeguards a “friendly” foreign nation in the same neighborhood. [Roll-out of Act Two of the A*P*C Capitulation Bill process is pending, for appeasement and appearance’s sake only, from early signals.]
PRETEND to be passing an Energy Bill that will get us off that oil that we broke international law and standards of civilized behavior (such as those we advocated and enforced during Nuremberg and now preach to the world from our hypocritical high horse) to steal from an Arab/Muslim country we violently occupy.
PRETEND we’re the “good guys” no matter what, so we can continue to believe in Hollywood’s “John Wayne” propaganda at all costs.
For those of us who appreciate the sacrifices the Special Counsel and his team (and the Intelligence Community) have made to bring a lying neocon to justice against all odds, here’s the next step:
Tomorrow, Thursday, at 11:30 a.m in Courtroom 16, Judge Walton will convene a motion hearing on Libby’s attempt to stay out of prison on bond. Following that, the final sentencing itself is scheduled for 1:30 p.m., same place.
[The snide Libby response filing today demonstrates just HOW unbelievably close this indictment came to being dismissed by way of graymail; I knew it was hand-to-hand combat down to the wire during CIPA, and then some, but I didn’t know that Judge Walton pushed the IC BEYOND their ability to release crucial details at the end of that brutal process, so that it was Judge Walton who finally had to decide to fish or cut bait in order to save this trial. He made the right (and courageous) decision in the end, but up until that point all the paths Walton traveled were leading straight to a graymail dismissal.]
dratty @ 70
Yes, I think some have jumped to some conclusions. JMO
lost_nacf_gop @ 77
No, we deserve Al Gore.
Mr.Murder @ 75
I think that Andy Card, from his home in Boston, might disagree with you, considering he’s been out for almost two years now.
Pardon of Scooter is an admission of guilt to something that is still open to discovery.
Fitz is smart enough not to game it, and remain quaint towards intent, that’s a political calculation, he’s still empowered but awaits discovery.
A pardon drives discovery.
Past that a pardon places Bush in Obstruction per John Dean’s findlaw talk of Nixon’s precedent. That is why Nixon had to resign.
Obama’s a fraud. Scoots lying to protect “shooter’s’ discarded foreskin. GORE/DEAN 08′
heartening to see so many people disgusted with Obama by this, but what about his “all options are on the table” rhetoric with regard to aggressive war against Iran, ffs?!?
for that he gets a pass, but broach support for pardoning Libby and now everyone is upset….
Jane and CHS you rip! Has Obama lost his marbles by letting this guy make a statement like this? Is Obama ripped?
Sorry, Mod(s). [I forgot to censor A*P*C, I think.]
scum rises to the top. note that it is still scum, and all the worse for being visible. what must be hidden in such a despicable coward to have a public position of pardoning someone that committed and assisted the conspiracy to commit treason is the more troubling. the junior senator has all ready sold out. we, the people, are not amused.
sporkovat @ 84
He didn’t get a pass from me.
interstingly, the obama for president campaign doesn’t have a contact email or phone number. except for donations of course.
What has two thumbs and doesn’t give money to Scooter apologists?
THIS guy!
Gore off to the sides watching, waiting, we are too Al.
RE-ELECT GORE!
and then this guy looked a little closer and found a number to call after all:
(866) 675-2008
Me dumb.
Obama’s selling out to get crossover Repub votes.
Just when I was thinking of voting for Obama - he goes and proves himself to be quite the ass.
Whether he approves of the statement or not, this is a huge window into his thinking.
The GC did not simply float this pathetic plan without Obama’s knowledge.
And if he did, what does that say?
Franco @ 6
I really don’t get it. First, we get Hillary hiring an asshat named Mark Penn. Next, we get Mudcat acting like a complete jack ass. Now we have Obama’s general counsel going the “Free Scooter Libby” crowd. WTF???? It just reinforces my belief that either Gore has to run, or Feingold should have.
He will have to explain himself; he will have to answer questions. Really? What planet is this guy living on?
So, one of Obama’s top people says this. Say, Obama comes out and strongly repudiates this — I see that as good for Obama and gets him more publicity than if he just suddenly announced, apropos of nothing, that he doesn’t think Libby should be pardoned. The cynical me wonders if this is a set up to make Obama look good. Of course that theory is blown out of the water if Obama doesn’t strongly repudiate it.
Redshift @ 36
Talking publicly about a strategy is part of the strategy. Stupid?
You know, I also seem to remember reading something awhile back to the effect that Obama has a big, big problem with the US Attorney in Chicago.
Just sayin’.
-S
I don’t think at this point the front runners for the Democratic nomination are doing very well. At all.
I remain with Gore.
OT Tony Snow: They have gone after Alberto Gonzales but have they found anything? No. (Except that he lies like a rug.)
Is the surge working?
Snow: That is such a vast metaphysical question.
kathleen @ 85
I am gonna call his Senate office and then the campaign office and find out an answer. See if Obama is a “Free Scooter Libby” supporter.
Mr.Murder @ 75
Card left some time ago, didn’t he?
Bob in HI
sporkovat @84:
I didn’t like his stance on Iran, and I prefer Edwards, but was trying to keep an open mind, when this little gem came up. It isn’t just the potential pardon that made me decide Obama is a non-starter for me.
This is truly disgusting. All it does is bolster the claim that the case is “just politics” and has nothing to do with the law. It reinforces the wingnut worldview that Bill Kristol, Ajami and others seemingly endorse, ie, that Libby is a fallen soldier whose only crime is following his beliefs and his leadership. No, you can’t lie to the cops and obstruct the judicial system, no matter who you are. That principle is bigger than anyone’s campaign and I thought was axiomatic, but evidently this guy doesn’t think so. If he doesn’t want to lose cred with people who are interested in him, Obama needs to disavow these sentiments NOW, clearly and with the bark off. Otherwise he risks (in my view, accurately) as a soft-centered pol with no core beliefs.
LS @ 93
Then he’s high.
ONLY the rabid Right believes Scooter to be innocent or unjustly accused.
None of Rush Limbaugh’s supporters (or William Kristol fans) are crossover voters and shouldn’t be courted.
brendancalling @ 91
Is this the number to Obama’s campaign?
[EPU’ed from previous thread…]
Apologies for the Spotlight problems.
All is better now. Had to change a light bulb.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 97
Let’s hope Al is watching and waiting. If so, then this is actually good news. The worse the frontrunners do, the better for Gore.
Card had Bush’s ear, he probably witnessed the threshold of accountability Bush would be party to, thus he’s liable as party to the IIPA.
It still goes to Senior positions.
Condi is being leveraged for Iran in this, as NSA she had communications between departments.
Promotions as procedure barriers were in place.
Some items changed(Rove’s loss of clearance, for example). That could change the ability to claim privilege too, but most likely the sealed information contained some expected shifts of such as Judge Walton was familiar with the review of intelligence pertaining to FISA and other such classified realms.
There were probably several pages of if/then reasonings for pursuit of action past Libby, they may await additional discovery, which sentencing itself can reveal(evidence not meant for jury can weigh in upon decisions).
It’s rather smart of Walton to stay by the book, more so for Fitzgerald. You can’t say they are beyond the bounds of procedure and reason.