A little more Monk -- here is the Thelonious Monk Quartet playing Round Midnight (Norway, 1966).
Here's a link to the Team Fitz brief. (PDF) (H/T to TiredFed.)
The first issue of contention that Team Libby put forth has to do with the Special Counsel appointment for Patrick Fitzgerald. As I said in Part I, this has already been argued, briefed, and shot down in a thorough response from Judge Walton prior to Libby ever going to trial. To argue that this is a substantive issue likely to hand Libby a ripe ground for appeal issimply wishful thinking. Especially when you consider it in the context of Morrison (429 F.Supp 2d at 45):
The integrity of the rule of law, which is a core ingredient of the American system of government, is challenged to the greatest degree when high-level officials come under suspician for violating the law. And a criminal investigation of any individual, prominant or not, for suspected violations of law must be beyond reproach to preserve respect for the fairness of our system of justice. There must therefore be a process by which the perception of fairness withstands scrutiny of the American public when prosecution authority is called upon to investigate public officials. Creating that perception of fairness obviously starts with those who are charged with the responsibility of conducting the investigations.
The fact of the matter is that there was some level of supervision of Fitzgerald, that he was subject to at will termination had the DOJ or the President of the United States chosen to go that route, and that he was restricted in his purview of the case to investigate only those matters which specifically related to the express charge given to him in investigating the issues surrounding the outing of a covert CIA agent by members of her own government.
That Mr. Libby repeatedly lied to federal agents and to the grand jury while under oath and giving testimony was Mr. Libby's own choice. He must now face the consequences of his poor choice, just as all other criminal defendants caught in a web of their own lies must face the very same consequences. Every single day, in courtrooms all over this nation of ours, lying defendants who have gotten caught at it face the music of their own making -- why, pray tell, should I. Lewis Libby be any different? Because he has powerful friends? Because he hadn't been caught breaking the law previously?
I sat in the courtroom and listened to the tape of Libby's testimony before the Grand Jury play out for the jury during the opening statements. It was clear, even from that first day of trial, that the backtracking, the hemming and hawing, the uncertainty, and the factually unsupportable contradictory statements that came tripping out of Libby's mouth that he was not being well and truly honest with the grand jury. And listening to that tape, watching Libby's nervous handwringing under the lip of the counsel table, watching the trial jury's eyes on him as he tried to maintain a mask of calm despite the tick of a vein popping out on his left temple, it became clearer and clearer to me that Libby was more than aware of all of this.
One or two misstatements could be a mistake, a simple error -- but repeated ones, deliberately told and embellished, on multiple occasions even after having an oath administered to you in court, when you are a lawyer who has worked on perjury cases for your own clients and are well aware of the penalties and risks involved in such unlawful behavior all the while holding a high-level office and breaching the public's trust and national security guidelines in the process? That is unforgiveable in my mind. And for what? Because Dick Cheney said so? No excuses. You do the crime, you do the time -- just like everyone else.
Which made the amicus brief filed this past week all the more appalling in my mind. And Bonamici takes the brief writers to task in footnote 11, pp. 13-14.
...The gist of the amici's argument is that removeability alone is not sufficient. That ignores this Court's analysis of the other limitations on the Special Counsel, Justice Scalia's dissent in Morrison stating that removal at will of the Independent Counsel would have changed the outcome, and the Edmond court's conclusion that removal is "a powerful tool for control." Thus, the amici have not established that there is a substantial question as defined by 18 USC 3143(b).
I'd say that is a pretty clear answer to the Free Scooter Look At Our Impressive Credentials Brigade, wouldn't you?
The next issue addressed deals with the decision not to allow testimony from a memory expert that defense counsel proposed. Readers will no doubt recall the dismantling of the memory expert that Pat Fitzgerald performed during a thorough cross-examination in the Daubert hearing prior to trial. Just for fun, let's revisit that for just a moment:
…Fitzgerald's blistering, nearly three-hour, questioning of Loftus caused her to admit that some of her own findings about what juries know about memory were faulty and that some of her own research may have been flawed. Quoting from her own book "Witness for the Defense," Fitzgerald also confronted Loftus about how she might sway a jury if called to testify at trial. She had written that, "using my arsenal of subtle psychological tools" Loftus could make an impression on a jury about her perception about guilt or innocence.Libby lawyer John Kline put Loftus on the stand to explain to Judge Reggie Walton - who must decide on whether to admit Bjork - that Loftus's 2006 study, based on a survey of 1000 D.C. jurors, found that most of those surveyed thought that memory could be likened to a "tape recorder." The perception the mind can remember like a recording device is not true according to some memory experts.But Fitzgerald pointed out in his cross-examination that the study itself may have been skewed. Loftus admitted on the stand, after being picked apart by details from her own works, that the answers to some of the questions posed to jurors in the study actually prove exactly the opposite - that jurors can in fact use common sense to ascertain the effects of memory on witness testimony.
I cannot begin to tell you how difficult it is to trip up an expert witness on the stand, especially when you are doing cross-examination of someone who is considered to be a top expert in the field and who has had courtroom experience in prior cases for similar research material....So now I'm asking myself: who on Team Libby was assigned to read this particular expert witness' information, do her hearing preparation, and thought, in their wildest dreams, that Patrick Fitzgerald seemed like the sort of fella that didn't do all of his homework and then some? Because, as I have said before, the devil is in the footnotes — and Pat Fitzgerald evidently learned that lesson as well.
Fitzgerald challenged the validity of memory research. Citing footnotes in her publications, presenting conflicting statements and questioning her methodology, Fitzgerald got Loftus to acknowledge that a statement in one of her research papers was taken out of context and that a figure in one of her books was incorrect.Brilliant. Just brilliant. That mathematics major from Amherst still comes in handy, I see.
It is Walton's decision to bar testimony from a memory expert that Team Libby now contests again. But Walton's opinion on the issue was not only through, but excrutiatingly so -- detailed not just in fact basis, but also in legal grounding for each and every element of the decision. That is going to be one tough issue to appeal, in my opinion. And Bonamici agrees:
As the case law relied upon by the Court (see 461 F.Supp. 2d at 7) makes clear, expert testimony regarding matters that are already familiar to the jury is not helpful and, thus, not admissible.
In other words, just because the jury saw Libby as a liar, that doesn't get you a do-over with a memory expert who was already deemed to be superfluous, not helpful, and likely to cause far more prejudice than to be able to give probative, useful testimony by a judge who extensively examined this question. And, further, as grounds for appeal? This one is not likely to fly.
Further, Judge Walton built in a number of instructions -- both cautionary ones to the jury during the course of the trial when testimony warranted such instruction, as well as at close of trial prior to deliberations. That the jury found Mr. Libby less believeable than the others who testified, and found his excuses for his conduct thin and lacking reflects not on the lack of a memory expert but, instead, on the paucity of Libby's justifications for his lawbreaking behavior.
The jury got this one right, and no amount of stamping one's legal foot and demanding a do-over changes that fact -- Libby's hemming and stammering and long, weird pauses during grand jury testimony alone sounded like what The Peanut does when she is caught with her hand in the candy jar. And the jurors clearly got that message, loud and clear, even if Libby's supporters don't want to believe it.
The next issue deals with CIPA hearings and the detailed process that the Court took everyone through, as required by law, to determine admissibility or lack thereof of the vast array of documents that Team Libby was trying to greymail into the case for their own purposes -- whether to confuse the jury or force a dismissal on greymail grounds, they will have to answer to themselves, but it was a vast array of documents, each of which had to be combed through individually by a team of lawyers from both sides fo the case, the CIA and other federal agencies over a period of months.
As to the issues advanced by Team Libby on this, the complaints boil down to three areas of contention: (1) that the substitutions proffered by the government were inadequate; (2) that the Judge should have admitted the Statement Admitting Relevant Facts in its entirety at trial; and (3) that the defendant's CIA briefers should have been able to testify in more detail about scary national security matters in which the defendant was involved, among other things. All of these issues were addressed repeatedly by Judge Walton on the record during trial, during testimony of witnesses, during cross-examination especially of CIA personnel when Team Libby managed to wedge in a lot of material that the judge had previously ruled inadmissible -- so the gripe comes down to wanting to have the original documents in front of the jury rather than giving them the information in testimonial and exhibit format, as they received it.
Frankly, that's also a bit weak as an argument, given the enormous volume of national security information that Team Libby managed to repeat ad nauseum in front of the jury. (Just go back and read through the liveblog transcripts of the Craig Schmall testimony alone to see what I mean.) Most of this hinges on evidentiary rulings questions which will be reviewed by an appeals court only for abuse of discretion questions -- and those are truly not likely to be found, based on everything I saw at trial and how carefully laid out Judge Walton's rationale for his rulings was made on the record and in the brief on rulings that he submitted following trial.
Finally, the issue of Andrea Mitchell's exclusion for testimony rears it's ugly head again. Judge Walton was quite clear on the record that calling Ms. Mitchell was a tactical attempt of the defense to impeach her based on a prior out-of-court statement that was deemed to be a maneuver designed to prejudice the jury against a defense witness based on a statement that had little to no probative value. (In other words, the Judge thought Mitchell was essentially talking out of her ass, but wasn't willing to turn his trial court into a media circus just to embarass her or Tim Russert when the testimony about the statement itself had little probative value as to Scooter Libby's lying or not. It made Mitchell look bad, sure, but that was it -- and that, in and of itself, is no reason to call a witness.) In short, speculation does not grounds for appeal make.
Team Fitz concludes by asking that Libby go to jail, directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect...well, let's just say that a pardon wouldn't be welcomed by anyone who respects the rule of law.
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hi Christy
I’m Back!
I’m just crossing my fingers that we’re back in a world where you can spin PR but you can’t spin the law.
Thanks Christy!
Error (or comedy?):
The Fitz Team brief links to TBogg.
OT
Boy, I hate to keep beating up on Michael Gordon but he does seem to ask for it. In an article in today’s NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06.....ref=slogin
Gordon describes a meeting between CENTCOM commander Adm. Fallon and Iraqi Prime Minister al Maliki at which Gordon was present. Gordon relates how Fallon pressed for signs of progress before the “surge” has to be justified before the Congress as early as July but certainly by September. To be fair, Gordon does a fair job relating how Fallon and Maliki appeared to be talking past each other.
Where Gordon goes off the rails is in his depiction of Fallon’s focus on the petroleum law “assuming it was closest to completion”. The petroleum law is a US obsession. Fallon hoped it might be finished by July so it could be used to mollify Congress. Gordon never brings up the parliamentary vacation which is scheduled to begin July 1 and would effectively derail this timetable. Nor does he point out that such a law would be at best largely symbolic. Even if passed and there are lots of questions that it will be, it would have no effect on petroleum production in Iraq for years if ever. And if forced down the throats of the Kurds and the Sunnis, it would work against national reconciliation, not for it. It is a law that has less to do with Iraqis and more to do with us, or at least the oil companies.
Two initiatives that would have near term real world consequences are rolling back the de-Baathification law and passage of a law for the holding of local and provincial elections. In some mixed provinces, Sunnis boycotted previous elections ceding control to Shias. New elections would reverse these results. Shia have shown little interest in moving on either of these issues. Gordon mentions neither of these and they were apparently not brought up in the Fallon-Maliki discussions.
This is the problem that I have so often with Gordon. He never seems to see the forest for the trees. He accepts uncritically what he is told by the powers that be. He doesn’t factor in missing or passed over elements (the parliamentary vacation, rescinding de-Baathification, and the election law). And he doesn’t draw the obvious conclusion. The “surge” was premised on a quick political settlement and no such settlement is in sight or even in the works. The “surge” has had no positive effect either in military or political terms, the two areas it was meant to address. The military surge is failing. The political surge never began.
Gordon too giddy that he is traveling with the big boys like Fallon and cognizant of the fact he would not be invited along with them if he were to, oh say, draw inconvenient conclusions is only too happy to avoid anything that smacks of insightful reporting.
So when all of the “connected at their roots” folks whine does it do the case more harm or good? The common folk know that if you “whine” too much you will get slamed in the courts.
Gnome de Plume @ 2
Greetings!
Christy!!!
JGabriel — Oops, sorry about that. Just fixed the link. Had been updating my Mudcat post from this morning with the TBogg link as well.
It takes a long time to catch up even after a few days! Has Betsy returned to the living? She was busy getting ready for a big event this past weekend, too.
Is that the same Micheal Gordon who reported the false intelligence reports prior to the invasion with Judy “I am fucking right” Miller?
Gnome de Plume @ 10
Sounds like she survived…but I’ll bet she’s happy to have her home to herself again.
Christy writes:
But, but, but, DO-overs is a divine right of the right-wing and the inside beltway kewl kidz! Why if it weren’t for do-overs, they might have to live and work and follow the same rules as all those unwashed heathens in fly-over country and places that don’t get good CEE-gars and whiskey…
Thanks as ever, Christy, for explaining these legal issues to those of us non-lawyers.
Gawd, even if Libby serves the entire term of jailtime that’s been handed down to him, he’s still getting off pretty damned lightly. Isn’t he? The man commits what amounts to treason and is given the equivalent of a slap on the wrist. Some punishment!
“Gordon too giddy that he is traveling with the big boys like Fallon and cognizant of the fact he would not be invited along with them if he were to, oh say, draw inconvenient conclusions is only too happy to avoid anything that smacks of insightful reporting.”
Give the big boys what they want to hear, and get your first row seat. The public will keep turning to the blogs and internet.
It’s the greymail part of the case that really fries me — and that they’re now trying to use Walton’s refusal to be greymailed as grounds for appeal! And what does the “national security” argument boil down to? Big Important Scooter Libby was so busy saving us from terrorists that he forgot the difference between truth and lies. I mean, really…
Lift up your collective face,
Lowered by the old disgrace,
That Ticky Dick in fit of pique
Destroyed the Plame spy network.
Klein says victory is sure,
Scoot the verdict will secure
But Klein’ll be crying in his beer
When Fitz has jailed the Scoot jerk!
Curse and swear, Lords of Air!
Fitz will do what Fitz will dare!
Lord High Broder, have a care –
Fallen is your star, sir.
Up with justice, up with law!
On we’ll go, for by my trow
Pat Fitzgerald has given his word:
Scooter goes to the slammer!
I thought the memory defense only couned if Libby took the stand?
Unfortunately for Scoots it’s too late for a “Motion to Change the Facts”!
(which I did once, to a judge I knew had a sense of humor)
OT: Still no “front-paging” of the FaceBook FDL group? How do late-comers have a prayer of finding out about it? And …remember that notion of mine to have the frong-page link go to an intro page that explains its goals, and then a (bookmarkable) link straight into the FB itself? Just some thoughts, YMMV. :)
John D. @ 15
This is the main question/discussion that happens with this group of young folks that I have been discussing this trial with “why is it that common criminals do more time for robbing a corner convenience store than Libby will do for “obstructing an investigation”
of the outing of a CIA undercover agent.
The other question that I hear many of these young college students asking is ‘why did Fleisher, Rove, and others not stand trial for outing Plame ?”
Christy can you give me exact time and day for the hearing? And if you and others do not object I am going to try to get this pack of young adults on line at FDL during the hearing.
Phoenix Woman @ 18: I’m impressed. What do you call that rhyme scheme?
This is a fun footnote from page 32 of the brief:
Ya, you could’a called Uncle Dick you dweeb!
kathleen — If I remember correctly, it is set to begin around 1:30 pm ET. But I’d have to go back and look at the liveblogging from the last hearing to be certain and I’m eating lunch with Mr. ReddHedd at the moment. I’ll check in just a bit…
Nitpick: in the first quote, next-to-last sentence.
Please put the ‘l’ back in ‘public’!
(Also, really nitpicking: ’suspicion’, ‘prominent’)
Might be an interesting day thursday.
If Walton says “Nope- you will not stay out of jail pending appeal”- will scoots get a few days to get his affairs in order- or will he be frog marched out directly?
If Clusterfuck is going to commute the sentence- will he do it immediately- or wait until the focus has moved elsewhere?
OT
Now on wnyc.org, gay escort who outed Ted Haggert.
Is there a pattern here?
“I sat in the courtroom and listened to the tape of Libby’s (Gonzales’)testimony before (Congress)the Grand Jury play out for the jury during the opening statements. It was clear, even from that first day of (testimony) trial, that the backtracking, the hemmng and hawing, the uncertainty, and the factually unsupportable contradictory statements that came tripping out of (Gonzales’) Libby’s mouth that he was not being well and truly honest with (Congress) the grand jury.”
Maybe they both had the same coaches?
Then this one to is sort of STFU, not our fault is the witnesses you called couldn’t to crap for you. From page 34:
S.O.S. from MA @ 21
dmac found out that:
don’t know how we’re going to get around that one.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 25
The google has the Thursday hearing at 1:30. The first link of course if FIREDOGLAKE.
Phoenix Woman @ 18
for those that missed it earlier
very funny
behindthefall @ 23
I call it “ripping off an old Irish song called ‘Follow Me Up To Carlow‘”. I did it in honor of Fitz, as he’s a true fan of Irish music (and as such would know the tune).
When Libby turns on his computer on Thursday morning, he’ll hear “*bling* You’ve Got Jail!”
Why do the courts give people like Schlozmann and others time to revise what they have stated under oath? Do common folks have this same privilige when they testify under oath?
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/.....testimony/
behindthefall @ 23
Hmm, it “reads” like standard folk ballad metre…
LUNCH BREAK ~ Burrito Supreme, extra kitteh.
Phoenix Woman @ 34
Mmmm. What I liked particularly was the way you carried the rhyme from one verse to the next, which the “Carlow” lyrics didn’t do (or if they did, I missed it).
kathleen @ 11
Yes, also the same Michael Gordon who continues to hype the Iranian threat in Iraq. The Iranians have a considerable interest and political presence in Iraq but their military activities there have been consistently overblown by Gordon and the upper echelons of the US military.
The “Free Scooter Libby” movement is really pickin up steam. Rich white people are up in arms “there but for the grace of God go I”.
selise @ 31
I bailed when I read that.
OT - on the senate intelligence committee hearing this afternoon, “To hold hearings to examine terrorist ideology “.
i just called the senate intelligence committee (since the witnesses are still not listed on their website), and was told the witnesses are: Stephen Ulph, Kim Kagan and Daniel Kimmage.
i think i’ll pass.
is it too much to wish for better - now that congress has a D majority?
Scoots is a foot soldier in the gooper pary- the american institution dedicated to the protection and growth of property. Anything he did in that war is to be forgiven.
kathleen at 36 — Yes, when they testify before Congress, most folks are given time to revise and extend remarks. And, as it is Congress and not a court of law, that’s perfectly acceptable and a long-standing practice. But revising your remarks doesn’t necessarily exempt you from charges, depending on intent and a number of other factors — but it is a completely different situation than testifying under oath before a grand jury, where you may also have an opportunity to correct remarks if you later remember details that are substantive and relevant to the case at bar (recall that Rove testified FIVE times before the G/J).
Hugh @ 40
So pathetic. Gordon is still essentially doing the neo-cons bidding. So much for the NYT being a liberal paper.
rwcole @ 41
That would be, I take it, “rich white people” with uneasy consciences?
JPL @ 32
Thanks
selise @ 43
Who are the other two? And why is Kim Kagan there? She is a disgrace. Is she there as a sop to the Repugs?
Kathleen, click on selise’s name for her link to hearing schedules
Sheila Johnson on poverty CSPAN 3
FYI — The Doan testimony to Waxman’s committee will be broadcast live tomorrow on C-Span3 starting at 10 am. Is that too early for popcorn, do you think?
behindthefall @ 39
Thanks! I just wrote out the meter the way I’ve heard it sung countless times in various Irish bars. Here’s a MIDI file — the default Media Player setting is too slow, but if you put it on the “fast” setting (which is still too slow), you’ll get an idea of what it’s supposed to sound like.
raven @ 42
You can use fake names. I mean how would they really know? As long as it’s not too crazy. Hell, just look at all the people that claim they are Russ Feingold. Or some other famous people.
Another OT, Blair soon to leave offide likens the British press to a “feral beast”. Apparently, Bush’s poodle wishes British media would be more poodlish like their American cousins. What a WATB. Bow-wow.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06.....ir.html?hp
OT–
Too funny and stupid. Bush links terrorists and communists:
He needs to read Aristotle on analogy.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 52
Is it ever too early for popcorn with this administration?
Brisingamen @ 37
It is — it’s “Follow Me Up To Carlow”. :-)
Christy Hardin Smith @ 52
The realtor is coming tomorrow afternoon to list the house and I was hoping tomorrow would be cleaning day. Oh Well…
kathleen @ 36
This was not the courts which I’m pretty sure would NOT allow revisions of the testimony after the fact. However, this is a procedure that the congress appears to use fairly frequently; especially when the person testifying is spouting gibberish as AL-VINNN was doing.
It is the same thing that Waxman pointedly advised Natasha aka Victrola Toesuck of after her testimony on Plame. By leaving the “official” record up for revision of remarks, the Congress gets to call BS on the liars and take them to the woodshed without having to go to the trouble of proving the perjury in court.
Elliott @ 50
i’m only doing senate and house committee hearings… :(
but, S.O.S. from MA is working on a calendar to mark important dates for us firepups.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 52
not too early for cookies!
Hugh @ 55
Poodle boy was trying to take The Independent to task the other day for being overly harsh. The editor had a great retort to poodle Tony. The Independent was against the Iraq War for the get-go and the editor said basically that Blair is pissed that he was wrong and the Independent is right. His words were better and more of a Snap!! then that, but you get the point.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 52
How about croissants and/or glazed donuts and/or blueberry muffins?
Christy!
Thanks for this great summary!
Just a little tease– you wrote,
Unfortunately I can’t figure out a way to make “tastical” into a delicious Freudian slip. I am often grateful for the spell check function in Wordpress that alerts me to mispellings or unusual words.
Bob in HI
selise @ 61
Thanks to you! :)
and to S.O.S. from MA, too
Wow. A judge and prosecution who are thorough and committed to precedence and the rule of law. No wonder the Libbyites are still trying this case in the court of public opinion.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 46
The same “groupthink” Monkey see monkey do reporting going on about Iran’s “alleged” nuclear weapons program. Very few MSMers’ questioning these repeated and unsubstantiated claims. (Matthews is the exception)
If people like Gordon Brown( who I believe should be held accountable for the false pre-war ingelligence reporting (Official Secrets ACt) are allowed to get away with printing unsubstantiated claims about Iraq and Iran. How can they wonder why visits to blogs (like FDL) and the internet have grown by leaps and bounds. This is the same so called “liberal” media that stuffed the WMD’s in Iraq hogwash down Americans throats.
Christy,
Thank you! for your expert analysis and the translation into plain English for the non-lawyers like me.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 54
until you get caught. dmac had his facebook pulled.
imo, it’s ok for a “fun” site - but for not serious organizing. ymmv.
Christy:
You have done a good job of convincing this not terribly bright, non-lawyer of Libby’s poor chances of getting his conviction overturned on appeal, but could you give us more info on who exactly will be hearing his appeal?
As an officer of the court you probably have more faith than me in the “system”, but personally I would like to know what the chances are the “fix is in”. Especially if Libby’s appeal will be heard by a bunch of his federalist society buddies.
Thx.
Can someone explain the concept of ‘greymail’ please?
Christy, Now that Schlozman has clarified his lies, do you have any guesses as to what’s next.. Will he be offered the magic immunity pill?
Sojourner @ 72
“Definition: Greymail is a defense tactic available to government employees who have connections with national security. When charged with a crime, the defendent claims that classified records are necessary to the defense. The goal of the defense team is to request so many classified documents that the federal government says “no.” At that point, the defense tries to convince a judge that they cannot get a fair trial without these records; the goal is to have the case or charges dismissed.” there’s more…
US politics
Sojourner at 72 — Meant to link up this greymail background piece. Sorry about that.
Aha! Thanks Elliott!
And thanks to you, too, Christy!
Somewhat OT, but while we’re on the subject of folks who (apparently) need to have the full weight of the law come crashing down on them …
According to friends of mine in the Triangle, wral.com is streaming the Mike Nifong disciplinary hearing. The hearing is in a lunch recess now, and is scheduled to resume at 1:45 p.m.
we have to get the lines out democrats need to use when talking about a possible libby pardon
we have to get them on board with calling libby’s actions “deliberately covering the tracks of traitors”
Sojourner @ 72
IANAL, but as I underestand it, it is trying to bring so much classified information into a court proceeding, information that truly is critical for the national defense, that in order to have a valid defense the info has to be de-classified but it can’t be de-classified due to the sensitive nature of the information. Hence the conundrum called “grey-mail.”
All it really is, is a variation on blackmail only the defense is blackmailing the gov’t with the gov’t’s own secrets.
OT… CNN just reported another bridge in Baghdad blown up. That’s 3 this week. We have got to get our troops out, they are going to be trapped very soon.
Christy,
there are 939 hits on the google for greymail and your 2/2006 article is #4!
bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gone do, whatcha gone do when they come for you?
OT New Froomkin Lede is yesterday’s decision by 4th circuit.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 52
Yes, but not for cookies!
OT, but on a subject near and dear to all of our hearts:
Congressional Democrats shoot themselves in the foot yet again, this time on earmarks reform. From today’s BNA Daily Tax Report:
dakine01 @ 64
Starbucks double espresso and lemon pound cake for the hearing
As one of the anti-invasion marches in D.C. (oct 2002) was ending I got out of the protest and into the Starbucks line (which had a lot of protestors with their signs in line for a fix) some of the younger protestors began to scream at me “don’t support large corporations”. I turned around and let them know that I was completely against the invasion of Iraq but that Starbucks had nothing to do with it, and that Starbucks actually started employees out well above the minimum wage and provided a relatively good health insurance plan for their employees. ( I had asked employees at Starbucks in many cities and airports what they made)
Thought that moment would have made for a good Starbucks commercial.
dakine01 @ 60
And did she revise (recant) or actually say something truthful? Has anyone checked the Record? And there was also the question of checking whether her report of her age at the time was accurate, although that may have been Waxman’s snarking.
Anyone know?
One more OT for the road:
The national average for regular gasoline today is $3.066 down from $3.227 on May 24th.
The wholesale price is around $3.25 which would be consistent with an equilibrium retail price around $2.80. The futures price today is $3.12 consistent with a retail price of around $2.90. I don’t know where the retail price will eventually flatten out but, barring a major crisis or refinery outage, there is still a lot of downward leeway in the price.
some more good argument-ary
chuckiness, here. . .
team fitz correctly points out,
as did i (earlier), that morrison is
the law of the land, and must be followed,
even by the d.c. court of appeals – there’s
a none-too-subtle-slap, no? check this:
cool. so: (1) the law is not what
twelve graybeards hoped it would
be, if scalia had the majority –
not the dissenting — position, way
back when morrison was decided. . .
but, (2) even if scalia’s dissent
were the current law of the land,
fitzs’ appointment would pass
scalia’s test for constitutionality — as
fitz was/is removable “at will”.
well — game.set.and.match.
it is all over, except for the
shouting about memory-expert
admissabilty — which i’ll likely
not excerpt, ut note that not
much chance exists that those de-
cisions involved an abuse of
discretion at the trial level (and
yes, that is the standard for
evidentiary rulings, on appeal). . .
buckle up for camp-fed, scoots!
Christy, I’m very grateful.
jackie @ 81
They’ve been ‘trapped’ for some time now. The bridge destruction is an exclamation point!
kdh22 @ 92
ambassador Wilson pointed out that this would be what would happen way back when he graced the lake with a live interview
quite present that man
I am hoping he gives us another opportunity to dialgue this topic and soon