YouTube of the Thelonious Monk Quartet performing Epistrophy in Paris in 1966. Thought a little jazz with the legal reading would be a good combo this morning.
Reading through the latest filing from Team Fitz in the Libby case is a thing of beauty. Deborah Bonamici has opened up a restrained but no less effective can of legal whoop ass on the Team Libby attempt to keep Scooter out of jail pending appeal. That Bonamici does this through carefully-cited and sourced legal precedents and arguments regarding stare decisis (the requirement that prior legal precedent be recognized and given controlling weight) makes it all the better for the reading.
To begin the response brief, Bonamici lays out the criteria for evaluation as required by 18 USC 3143(b) which requires that convicted defendants seeking a stay of sentence pending resolution of appeal proceedings meet the following requirements (per Perholtz, 836 F.2d at 555): (1) Does the appeal raise a substantial question of law? and (2) If so, would the resolution of said questions in the defendant's favor be likely to result in reversal of conviction? The answer to both questions, in Team Fitz' opinion, is a resounding "no."
Bonamici walks through a bit of the Congressional history of the enactment of this particular statute, giving weight to Congressional intent: that "[r]elease of a criminal defendant into the community after conviction may undermine the deterrent effect of the criminal law, especially in those situations where an appeal of conviction may drag on for many months or even years." This statute was enacted expressly to prevent such delay in sentence being carried out where there is no substantial grounds for appeal that will likely result in an overturning of the conviction. And, as Bonamici points out repeatedly in her filing, that is exactly the situation in which Mr. Libby finds himself -- a situation of his own making through his own repeated lies, I might add.
One point of legal analysis for the non-lawyers in the audience: an appeal is reviewed on a couple of levels, depending on the type of question being raised by the defendant. For a question on an evidentiary ruling, the appeals court reviews the judge's decisions only on an "abuse of discretion" standard -- meaning that unless the court sees some evidence that the presiding trial judge deliberately abused his position and made a ruling outside the normal precedents of law, there will be no reversal of the trial court judge. This is done because the trial judge is on the scene throughout proceedings and is presumed to have had the best, most grounded and in-depth understanding of the whole of the case and his decisions are, thus, given more weight on evidentiary matters over the course of a trial. On issues of law, however, decisions are reviewed "de novo," or with a fresh look by the appellate court.
The first issue that Bonamici addresses is the one on which Team Libby is hanging it's biggest hopes: the question of the validity of the Special Counsel appointment. This has already been litigated in the case in a prior round of motions briefs and arguments, as well as a very thorough opinion from Judge Walton. (See here [including quotes from the relevant sections of applicable code for the AG to delegate authority] and here.)
Bonamici makes a particularly salient (and snarky) point in footnote 4, page 6, that i wanted to share with everyone:
Defendant contends thatit can be inferred from thelength of this Court's written opinion that the legal issues presented constitute substantial issues for appeal. Def. Mot. at 5. It is a strange sort of logic that infers that the likelihood of reversal increases with the thoroughness of a written opinion.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is what we like to call poking a big hole in the trial balloon.
More on the substantive arguments against each of the grounds argued by Team Libby for appeal in the next bit of analysis. To be continued...
UPDATE: Here's a link to the brief in full (PDF) (H/T to TiredFed for the link!)
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Morning, Christy.
it really doesn’t matter much anymore, the pardon is in my mind forgone and concluded
think progress has this;
EPU’d (and I’m not even Evil)
nolo @ 135 (previous thread)
Good find in Fitz’s filing! Plain good morning snark…
“It is a strange sort of logic that infers that the likelihood of reversal increases with the thoroughness of a written
opinion”
perris at 3 — Since when has Condi Rice gotten anything right? Why in heaven’s name would I believe anything that comes out of her mouth? I mean, honestly?
it really doesn’t matter much anymore, the pardon is in my mind forgone and concluded
think progress
has this;
Christy Hardin Smith @ 5
well that’s a good point chisty
Do we have any time guestimates on when the ruling is coming down?
this to Senator Feinstein in a call and an email:
MS. Feinstein.
I have rarely been so proud of my votes for you as I was yesterday when a majority f the US Senate supported a vote of no confidence in A. Gonzalez. that the GOP filibustered it, does not change the effect of this vote, to show that he no longer serves with the confidence of the Senate.
damn haloscan!
here is the rest of me….
I don’t see where the filibuster changes anything. If they had gotten and up-or-down vote the effect would be the same. The resolution passed did not have an affect other than to show where most senators stand.
To write that it failed is true kabuki by the GOP and to accept the idea that it failed or derailed anything–as the MSM is saying–is true Gooper spin.
trifecta at 8 — Yes, there will likely be a ruling on this on Thursday since that is the next hearing date that Judge Walton set for this.
From AP today:
And yet, the MSM Talking Heads and Pundits are in unison in their insistence that Scooter’s punishment was too harsh and that his case for appeal is amazingly strong. Why he should probably get a big settlement from the government for persecuting him so visciously. As Uncle Bucky would say, “Ugh.” I say put the treasonous bastard in jail today and bring Fitz back for Part Deux to pick-up Shooter and Rove and, since they keep on insisting, Armitage.
More from AP:
peterboy @ 9
Why not call her office and ask when will impeachment start in the House? Since my Rep is a Repug, and Specter is ranking memeber in the Senate(and he won’t touch impeachment), I plan on calling Pelosi’s offce and asking them. i suggest we all do the same, since impeachment has to start in the house.
perris @ 3
perris, insert the name Condi Rice everywhere she said “Scooter Libby”.
She’s hoping when her own turn in the barrel comes that Bush will also treat her in accordance with her public service.
Projection, much?
AlexandriaCynic @ 13
What do the talking heads and MSM know? 90% percent of them are idiots anyway. I call it the Mutual Protection Racket. I bet Tweety and The Big Pumpkin have no clue that people laugh at them on a daily basis. I mean Tweety needs medical help(his HRC obsession) for Christmas sake. Why hasn’t NBC/GE gotten him help?
The exxon tanker Condi Rice set course for Panama and arrived in Queens. It just goes with the name.
Refresh my memory on Scooter pardon. I remember reading that a pardon is somewhat analagous to immunity, and that Scooter would then have to testify in all other related cases, towit Valerie Plame Wilson’s lawsuit. That would certainly involve revealing Cheney’s & Rove’s role in words of one syllable. Since those two control W, why would W grant a pardon? Or is my orginal premise wrong?
I wonder how long Judge Walton would give Libby to “get his affairs in order” before going to jail if he is to serve before his appeal?
Also, yesterday’s vote was disappointing, but maybe the vote was to show us how difficult an impeachment vote would be. So at least we can settle down a little bit, knowing they tried and need more 2×4s for the republicans to get it.
Impeachment in da House!
And a joy forever. Or so we hope.
Thanks for the Monk vid, & also thanks for all you are doing, CHS. We know it’s a truckload of work…
perris @ 3
oh, but he is being treated in accordance with his public service - he lied about a treasonous act! He’s just lucky he could only be charged with perjury, making false statements, and obstruction of justice, or he would be facing a firing squad.
Maybe Henry Waxman could explore Condi’s opinions of Scooter more closely when they chat next week.
trifecta @ 8
Thursday at 1:30 or shortly thereafter, I beleive.
Team Libby gives the phrase “trial balloon” new meaning.
But Bonamici’s reply raises an obvious corollary question: Does the volume of whining by the defendant’s legal team increase with the weakness of their appellate case?
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 17 asks:
Cuz Tweety and Punkinhaid are doing exactly what GE wants them to do.
GE. We bring good things to light.
Balrog @ 21
I just called Speaker Pelosi’s office. I asked the gentleman when impeachment proceedings against AGAG were gonna start. He didn’t answer but transferred me to a comment line. So I left my comments there. What else can we do to make them start impeachmment against Abu Gonzales? That is the only way Commander Guy will ever take notice.
eCAHNomics @ 19
Plus if Scoots tried to continue lying to Congress, he’d open himself immediately back to the perjury charges AGAIN.
If Only GE would do something wrong! Then NBC could report on it. Damn GE for being such a good corporate citizen!
dakine01 @ 27
Cuz Tweety and Punkinhaid are doing exactly what GE wants them to do.
This is a bit puzzling, since HRC is clearly a corporatist who is unlikely to support policies which adversely affect GE. Now if they were going after Edwards or Richardson, I would understand it more. Must simply want to discredit all Democrats.
dakine01 @ 27
Cuz Tweety and Punkinhaid are doing exactly what GE wants them to do.
Is HRC really that bad for GE? Given her comments, it would seem not. I thought Tweety and Pumpkinhead would be going harder after Obama and Edwards.
Hi Christy,
First time replyer…keep up the great work!
Question for you - has anyone begun to coordinate THE response in case there is a Libby pardon? It would be nice to hit the White House and the allies with a backlash they can feel in their gut!
Dave
perris @ 6
This really irritates me. That is like saying that Christie England should be pardoned because she served her country during a time of war.
What is wrong with these people?
(btw–Christy. Thnaks for the swampland link in the prior thread. Those comments were some of the funniest things I have read in a long time, and I needed to laugh this am)
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 33
“Asked for her views on a pardon, Rice demurred but then came to the strong defense of Libby, stating that he should be treated ‘in accordance’ with his public service.”
I’d like to see the Wilsons treated in accordance with their public service. The first Bu$h called Joe Wilson a “hero” during the Gulf War, and furthermore he demanded harsh penalties for outing covert agents. Too bad the Repuke memory doesn’t stretch back that far.
DrDick @ 32
With Dem’s in office, no matter who it may be, GE is afraid of:
A) Cutbacks in defense spending
B) Environmental clean-up requirements that would force them to acknowledge fully the amounts of pollution they have caused; not only in the Hudson River but all over the country.
Firepups–Code Pink has ‘occupied’ Rahm Emanuel’s office.
Also, there is a great video karendc made of the women who are pushing our government to do the right thing. (Called momming our gov’t). Christy is a prime example at FDL of momming and momming our gov’t. Please see the video. It represents all of us and also represents why we need to keep fighting even when we take our licking.
dakine01 @ 38
Ahhh. Good points.
OT - on the Una Vision debate. I always come late to commenting but wanted to add this. Seems Hillary can do no right, either in the eyes of the left or the right. If she doesn’t do the Spanish language (translation) debate, she is blowing off that constituency or she is cowardly avoiding looking bad. If she does that debate, she will be criticized all to hell for any faux pas or for pandering to the Hispanic community or aligning herself with amnesty for illegal immgrants. I suggest we remember who the enemy is - the Republicans. Wonder who among those candidates is a fluent Spanish speaker? Also, that community is tired of the token phrases of George Bush (quartro y media! quieres una cerveza?) which his crowd says represent his close ties with Latinos. We in Texas know better.
We complain that the media is shallow, would rather report on a missing blond or Paris Hilton. . . but our comments show some vacuousness also. Many of Hillary’s positions are fair game - let’s call her on those. But she has been a constant worker and serious strategizer all her life. If she is our candidate, I will support her. Only Gore, in my mind, would be preferred.
DrDick @ 36
Tweety’s writing a book… we should have
a “name that book” contest
Hmmm, for once I agree w/ Dr. Rice. Let’s examine his public service, shall we?
-An accomplice to the lies that led this nation to a war often called ‘the worst foreign policy disaster’ in history.
-An accomplice to the betrayal of one of our spies resulting the ‘outing’ of an entire network.
Christy Hardin Smith: “For a question on an evidentiary ruling, the appeals court reviews the judge’s decisions only on an “abuse of discretion” standard — meaning that unless the court sees some evidence that the presiding trial judge deliberately abused his position and made a ruling outside the normal precedents of law, there will be no reversal of the trial court judge.”
Hi Christy! Just a quick question, for clarification. Aren’t evidentiary appeals usually made during the discovery process?
Or is that just typical of civil suits?
This is from think progress. WTF???
Last night on Fox News’s Hannity and Colmes, right-wing pundit Dick Morris claimed that if Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) becomes president, she “will not withdraw from Iraq.” His evidence? She’s a woman. “As a woman, she would not want that record,”
special K @ 39
I don’t know how to get “youtube” link but I saw it at kos.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/6/12/7625/60422
http://www.dailykos.com/commen.....422/11#c11
perris @ 3
Hmmm…Kindasleeza finally got it right. When one betrays a covert member of the CIA, one should indeed be treated in accordance with that particular public service.
And going to jail sounds about right to me. Jeez Kindasleeza, out of the mouth of a weasel, comes truth…who knew?
Dear legal eagle firepups: can Team Libby file a motion for release on bond to the appeal court, and if so, how soon after Walton rules on whether Scooter goes to the big house?
Hey Christy and FDlers. The Diane Rehm show is discussing blogs and their influence on journalism right now. “We are all journalist now” that is the topic
How about writing or calling from FDL. I did. drshow@wamu.org 1800-433-8850
Christy,
Are there not some very serious implications for the White House if there is a presidential pardon? Such as along the lines of obstruction of justice? Libby worked for both Bush and Cheney and a pardon could be viewed as a continuation of the obstruction of justice for which Libby was convicted.
Any thoughts?
I just love footnotes . . . Walton’s the other day and now Bonamici’s!
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 17
I keep telling Dan Abrams to have a sex therapist review tapes of Tweety’s shows.
Peterr @ 51
Footnotes for Snarks
I like to think that she’s also poking them in they eye.
Please contact drshow@wamu.org about the power of blogs and FDL. I let them know that I posted (is that the right term) at FDL that her show was discussing the effect of blogs on journalism. Please contact the show about the power of FDL and other blogs
Also to the Legal Eagles: It’s been said that Libby won’t be pardoned because then he could be forced to testify before Congress. What happened to that line of thinking?
Janda @ 45
So Bush doesn’t want to leave Iraq because he’s a woman. I always suspected it.
I have yet to see a comparison of Libby’s sentence to that of the couple who served alcohol to minors at a party in Virginia.
I understand the mother in that case reported for her 27 month sentence this past Monday.
I find the 30 month sentence of Libby for perjury in a matter on national security to be far more lenient.
Before someone does the MADD number on this commentary, think about the life and death consequences of each action.
The magnitude of the specter of death and destruction from the underage drinking incident pales in comparison with the hundreds of thousands killed, maimed, injured, and the millions left without a home as a result of the vanity war in Iraq of the Bush Administration.
I urge all talking heads to pick up this story and use it like a club to verbally whip those apologists for Libby and the Administration.
Let them compare sentences for serving minors alcohol at a party to Libby’s sentence and tell the cameras their version of reality with a straight face.
They will accomplish the task because they don’t care. Their values are about gaining, wielding, and holding power, nothing more.
SusanD @ 57
What a nasty thing to say about women.
you know what pisses me off?
the democrats are allowing this libby thing seem benign
they need to get with the program, they need to say “anyone that thinks covering up the tracks of triators should be pardoned is a traitor themself”
they need to do this immediatley, before the pardon comes
DrDick, you’re right. I just couldn’t resist the absurdity of their argument.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 29
I think Pat Leahy et al are working to develop the evidence first. Then they can offer it up to the House (an offer they can’t refuse).
perris @ 60
And repeatedly. Over, and over, and over. 24/7. No let up at all. Take a lesson from the GOP noise machine and make it impossible to escape the meme.
Rice’s statement: she’s projecting… they all do that in Bushland.
Thank you, Christy!
I’ve been wondering if it’s time to start crying yet over this and everything since 2000. I’ve been bravely holding off except for a watering eye here and there. You give me hope.
special K @ 39
Pink T-shirt = $19.99
Pink Foam Crown = $7.99
Pink Lipstick = $12.49
Occupying Rahm Emmanuel’s office = Priceless
Rarely would I come to Tweety’s defense, but he did challenge the Libby apologist yesterday (Broder maybe?) and repeatedly inserted that acceptance of a pardon equals admission of guilt.
OT, but Joe4Joe Lieberloser voted NO as predicted on the vote to even consider the Abu Gonzales No Confidence vote.
Who knew that the Weasel Joe4Joe and the Skunk Repugs would be against Justice in the Justice Department?
Why, we did, doncha know?
SusanD @ 61
Unfortunately, Dubya’s only natural constituency is sociopathic serial killers. Comparisons to any other group is unfair to that other group.
DrDick @ 63
that’s exactly right, the democrats need to copy that tactic cuz it works
My only hope is that they throw him in jail and his angry wife sings like a bird to the public about how his buddies screwed him.
He will be pardoned, no doubt, but his brief incarceration will make her howl to the heavens.
‘Hell hath no fury….’
Solai @ 43
let’s look at the entire record, shall we? developer (along with Wolfowitz) of the pre-emptive war doctrine (at first considered so poisonous and unAmerican it had to be rewritten), founding member of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), who openly advocated attacking Iraq back in 1998! and there’s more. much more.
perris @ 69
The biggest disadvantage we have here is that the top down structure of the conservative movement makes it easier and more effective to coordinate their message. The openness of the progressive movement makes it harder to get everyone “on message”, but we need to try to get as many progressives as possible to project this message every time they speak publicly about the issue.
Solai @ 56
Are you really certain that this bunch ever thinks things through?
I mean Bushwacko and crew are always stating that “no one could imagine that our actions would have these results.” It happens so often that you’d think someone would have set it to music by now.
Solai @ 56
Republics have demonstrated that they are very capable of inhibiting action in Congress. They must be secretly thankful that they didn’t change all the rules a few years ago.
And the link to this brief is exactly … where?
pseudonymous in nc @ 48
IANAL but I believe this is why Wells was in such a hurry to get Fitz to respond (gave him the weekend to rebut their motion to release Libby), to go over Walton’s head on appeal before the clock runs out. Libby has 6-8 weeks of freedom left before the Bureau of Prisons comes up with a free bed.
Well, he could have Paris’ old bed.
Personally, though, I’d like to see him marched off to the Colorado SuperMax.
Rice demurred but then came to the strong defense of Libby, stating that he should be treated ‘in accordance’ with his public service.”
Never heard calls for that when Clinton was going thru impeachment.
scribe @ 75
here ya go: Fitz Response to Release on Appeal Motion
Bonamici?…Goodling. Bonamici?…Goodling. Bonamici probably went to a ‘real’ law school. How this administration embarrasses its self with absolutely no shame.
Christy, your analysis is always worth waiting for. thanks so much. looking forward to the next installment.
Stepping back from the details, what strikes me is the resources WH and its neocon proxies are devoting to the liberation of Scooter, on the legal front and the PR front.
Why such a heavy investment of resources? Are they scared Scooter will flip if they fail, and rat out Cheney?
If Libby gets a pardon for Lying to Protect Cheney, then Rice reasons she ought to get a pardon for Lying to Protect Bush. (This is how Gooper “loyalty reasoning” works.)
Totally self-serving, not to mention barking on command…The Secretary of State.
There’s hardly any veneer left - the Goopers are de-cloaking into their base position of “You can’t touch those protected by the Unitary Executive.”
And in the meantime, the bus is running so hard for the Iran cliff that the dust cloud can be seen for miles.
madness…
Prairie Sunshine @ 77
The U.S. Justice system put Paris Hilton in jail, will they put Libby behind bars? What about Judy Miller, Robert Novak, Ari Fleisher, Cheney, etc?
What a justice system…simply not just!
TiredFed @ 62
I hope so. I plan on calling Feingold’s office after lunch. Snarlin’ Arlen is my Senator, but he’s no good.
azportsider @ 37
GHWB is so 9/10.
Elliott @ 52
Do you ever get a reply from Abrams?
Bonamici “can of legal whoop ass”
OT ~ Need a laugh? Note at :58 secs…someone in the crowd steals his watch. ~ Bush in Albania
Still time to write the drshow@wamu.org that Firedoglake will be blogging from the Libby trial and what a powerful and infomative blog FDL is!
TPM says that Scholzman is “clarifying” his testimony WRT attorneygate. Not clear what the clarifications are.
How about that poor kid in Georgia whose case was “voided” the other day by the judge who ordered him to be released from jail, however, the prosecutors are appealing the ruling, and he’s still sitting in jail.
special K @ 39
This is great. The more to embarrass Emanuel, the better. It is too bad people can’t “occupy” his office every day.
TiredFed @ 62
Re the evidence. I happened upon this yesterday at TNH. Apparently impeachment voids the right to executive privledge. All evidence must come out. I’m looking at you, Karl.
ccmask @ 78
Yeah. Probably because there weren’t any unindicted co-conspirators in Clinton’s White House.
As Marcy has so neatly pointed out this morning, Condi is really conducting a dialogue about the pardon via the WSJ.
Right under prosecution’s nose, too.
Is there a link to the filing or is it a go to Pacer thing?
Bon Amici could have also added in her footnote that, based on the per/page approach, the “legal scholars arguments must have really sucked. ;-)
Here’s a link to a kos diary I did yesterday that provides some history on the statutes and regs and the Bork 12 approach. http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....152815/948
This issue is why I keep mentioning that, no, Fitzgerald did not have the authority to go taking frolics and detour on his investigation and yes, he does have to worry about overstepping his bounds by doin things like releasing information that he said when he was appointed he would not be releasing.
Here’s a talkleft post with some nitty gritty comments for those who like digging in the legalisms
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/6/10/12254/0078
BTW - Mike Nifong is having hearings before his state bar on his public statements in connection with a case and trying to explain why it is he shouldn’t be disbarred. Which is what apparently happens when you abuse your position to make public statements to influence a case - - or at least, sometimes that’s what happens. Now, if only he’d been able to intone, “terrorists, terrorists, terrorists” then I guess he wouldn’t have to worry.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 85
Who do you think we should run against him?
Lou Costello @ 89
OMG!!
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 87
No, but I keep emailing him.
OT–Blogwhoring, actually:
I put this up late in the afternoon, yesterday: a Gallup Poll on religiousity
http://thewell-armedlamb.blogs.....tupid.html
then this morning, i bravely essayed to assay the ore in Paris “the whOre”:
http://walled-in-pond.blogspot.....-lord.html
and then, at the Guitar, you can listen as Neil Young explains how he changed sides:
http://woodyguthriesguitar.blogspot.com/
i’ll be out most of the day, i reckon. gotta start the swamp coolers at a couple of places. Have a good day.
Diane @ 66
That was Frum. He also scared me cuz he says there’s a third “out” that Bush can provide to Libby; not commutation, and not pardon, but something (sorry can’t remmeber the name) that only sets aside the sentance.
Helen @ 94
isnt Marcy great? The