Good evening to all of you and forgive my technical failings -- I had a magnificent YouTube ready that I simply cannot get to post uptop, so I'll post it in the thread for your enjoyment.
It's a swell montage of Novakula's walkoff from the CNN set, but you'll see it soon, I promise. It's meant to go with his column from yesterday's Washington Post, in which he clarifies the establishment DeeCee Beltway view of 2008 PrezCandi John Edwards:
The dynamic performance by John Edwards in Sunday's Democratic presidential debate, assailing his competitors for the nomination, got high marks from political reporters, Republican politicians and left-wing activists. But not from the Democratic establishment. Once their great hope for the future, Edwards now is massively unpopular among party regulars, who neither like nor trust him.The performances at the Goffstown, N.H., event by the two front-runners, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, were error-free if a little leaden. Edwards, the third man in the big presidential field, supplied the fireworks by taking on Clinton and Obama. On the surface, he seems a perfect candidate: eloquent, smart, handsome and shrewd. Is he reminiscent of the two slick Southerners who were the only Democrats elected president in the past 40 years? Yet the prospect of an Edwards-led ticket evokes deep apprehension inside the party that he would be another flawed nominee.
Oh.
My.
Gosh.
Deep apprehensions!? Another flawed nominee?! Who could our dear Robert Novak be speaking with about John Edwards?
Edwards has not worn well with party colleagues. Campaign consultant Bob Shrum was enthusiastic about Edwards after working on his 1998 Senate victory in North Carolina and unsuccessfully advised Gore to make him his 2000 running mate. But Shrum chose Kerry over Edwards as his 2004 presidential client. In his newly published memoir, "No Excuses: Concessions of a Serial Campaigner," Shrum explains: "I was coming to believe he wasn't ready; he was a Clinton who hadn't read the books."
But wait -- there's more!
During the 2004 primaries, Democratic activist James Carville was enchanted when Edwards shifted his centrist posture to a populist depiction of "Two Americas." Carville told me -- and then repeated it on CNN -- that Edwards was the best stump speaker he ever had seen. When I asked him this week whether he still thought that was true, Carville replied: "Maybe he's not as good now."
I don't know if you've chosen a Presidential candidate for 2008 (I have) but could you do worse than to choose the one opposed by Bob Shrum?
and James Carville?
and Robert Novak?
Discuss.
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hey, I got the non-zed ;) and so to bed…
Teddy! Thank you for the lovely smackdown of Novakula.
Theodore San Francisco!!!
No spitballs tonight, I hope…
So, Loo, we got our list now.
I like your question mo better.
Really going now.
I’ll think up some more questions in my sleep.
Ta!
All the rubberbands got moved during the redecoration and I can’t find them, neuro.
a moment of silence, please, for the passing of dear old Zed.
Suzanne @ 4
Right on, Teddy!!!
Ta!
LL, you got the zed.
Novak has pretty well bled out.
punaise @ 8
Aftwards, please give a warm welcome to the non-zed, who takes his place.
punaise @ 8
punaise, you do know that you’ve lost your last paycheck, doncha?
Poor punaise - we’ve been betting with your next dozen paychecks. Hope that doesn’t cause any problems.
TSF, are you trying to give folks nightmares? Carville and Novak at this hour?
The latter is in his Concern Troll mode, and the former is simply trolling for attention.
Please hard-refresh y’all, the tech crew has performed their magical magic, and we have a video uptop!
That is heartening, isn’t it!
Could somebody identify the three people on the video, for an ignorant Aussie? Please.
punaise @ 8
He was always the first to arrive at every party, and always seemed to know when and where the next party was going to start before anyone else.
Everyone - reload the page - Teddy got the UTube in the post and it is too dayam funny.
Carville told me — and then repeated it on CNN — that Edwards was the best stump speaker he ever had seen. When I asked him this week whether he still thought that was true, Carville replied: “Maybe he’s not as good now.”
Are we talking about the same James Carville who is married to a former aide to VP Darth Cheney and who joined her in asking Judge Walton to give the traitorous and felonious Scooter Libby a slap on the wrist? And didn’t he also join her in hosting a fundraising party for Scooter’s defense fund?
Why would we care what he thinks about who should be the Democratic presidential nominee?
Sounds to me like his wife and her Republican cronies may be worried about the prospect of an Edwards nomination.
I can handle the squandered paychecks (well, actually, that’s not true), but let’s make it Paris, France rather than Ms. Hilton please…
punaise, I was looking for Dan Hicks and the Hot Licks singing “Got My Paycheck Today,” but no luck.
Peterr @ 18
in his own quiet way, he was an American zero.
pun, if i really did have your paychecks, i would take a trip to france just in your honor (and on your tab)
Carville is a Clinton shrill thru-and-thru, end of discusion! Now, who the F*** is Novak to opine on the Dems??? Period!!! Edwards is *gasp* a Trial Lawyer! Way too progressive for the Wingnuts anyways, of course, they’re going to smear him!!!
Teddy, great, super, marvelous, shiteous video!!
Vote Edwards: Disliked by all the right people.
Seriously. Edwards is the only candidate who regularly describes his policy ideas in concrete terms, and takes it to the Republicans and their water carriers to destroy their memes.
The others seem like that announcer in the Seinfeld “Comedian” movie: http://www.apple.com/trailers/.....edian.html
“In a world… where we fix this country and all get along!… Bush! A renegade cop! A robot renegade cop!”
Debbie(aussie) @ 17
er … tweedledum … tweedledummer … and … tweedledummest !!!
You’re Welcome !!! *g*
Carville co-signed his wife’s Libby letter. Who the heck cares what the fork he says or thinks anymore - that man (and I use the term loosely) is totally pw’d.
Suzanne @ 24
great song, horrible rendition - Joni Mitchell’s “Free Man in Paris” butchered by (shudder) Neil Diamond
TeddySanFran @ 15
A classic ‘Combat Rock’ Clash occurring on that Tube! Nice Montage Teddy!!!
punaise @ 23
But in the end, he proved to be a no-account.
punaise @ 8
WHAT!
this is too much for one week….
Petrocelli @ 28
James Carville is the bald one (he was Clinton’s campaign-dude), robert Novak who is generally a turd was the one who walked off. He wrote the article quoted above, and also revealed Valerie Plame’s identity. don’t know the third w/back to camera.
[BILL Clinton, that is, i.e. 42]
The poor zed - his staying power turned out to be null.
Teddy, now I know you through the pic last thread. That is really pretty amazing if you think about where we were a few years ago. I’ll buy a camera for YK2, but who knows if I’ll ever learn to do that trick!
CTuttle @ 25
What’s great is, Edwards is not getting drawn into their sniping … he’s quietly building up support for the caucuses, where he will surprise a lot of people.
Hillary has to realize that Carville’s continued diatribe on Edwards will have negative repurcussions on her campaign.
I think it’ll be Gore/Edwards in ‘08.
Ed Harris - a reporter with CNN is the ‘newscaster’ type guy.
Ed Harris - a reporter with CNN is the ‘newscaster’ type guy.
RIP, Zedediah
Good evening dear friends. I see from the crumbs that you enjoyed your cookie bars.
Debbie(aussie) @ 17
Hi Debbie!
The skinny little runt laughing is James Carville, former Clinton something or other, supposed Democrat, married to Mary Matalin.
The fat guy throwing the tantrum is Robert Novak, righty columnist and the guy famous for revealing the identiy of Valerie Plame Wilson.
The other guy is the host of the show. His name doesn’t matter, they’re all interchangeable.
Hope that helps
Persiflage (also Aussie)
So am I to infer that WordPress no longer graces the first commenter with a temporary zero?
Does that mean that (once the current discussion tapers off) we won’t have to talk about “Zed” anymore?
kirk murphy @ 33
He showed so much promise, but it was all for nought !!!
What happened to zed?
TexB @ 41
They were told to leave some for your breakfast, Tex.
Zed Truth Commission:
Zed Lives - pass it on
Zed is, now and forevermore, Uno
via AmericaBlog:
Sex scandal hits Creationism Museum
See, God does have a sense of humor.
OT Nancy Pelosi on Cspan 3 1/23/90! She is soooo young.
Hi pups how is everyone tonight?????
John Edwards is my second choice
Al Gore is my first.
Gore/Edwards 2008
Pelosi 2007
Was it something I zed?
Suzanne @ 46
Well thank you, but I stashed some in the back of the freezer before leaving yours out on a plate. I do KNOW y’all by now. Lurkers like taking seconds you know.
Petrocelli @ 38
Great minds, Hombre, Great minds…, But, Gore’s hat ain’t in the ring!!! :-(
EPU’d on the heroes, but on the east coast it has become these heroes’ 40th anniversary, so not OT:
These heroes of mine died 40 years ago today (June 8, 1967) during a hostile attack on their ship while serving in the Naval Forces of the United States in the Mediterranean Sea. Their skipper, Commander W. L. McGonagle, received the Congressional Medal of Honor for his courageous actions on that day:
Cryptologic Tech 3rd Class William B. Allenbaugh, USN
Lt Cmdr. Philip M. Armstrong Jr., USN
Seaman Gary R. Blanchard, USN
Cryptologic Technician 2nd Class Allen M. Blue, NSA
Quartermaster 3rd Class Francis Brown, USN
Cryptologic Tech 2nd Class Ronnie J. Campbell, USN
Cryptologic Tech 2nd Class Jerry L. Converse, USN
Cryptologic Tech 2nd Class Robert B. Eisenberg, USN
Cryptologic Tech 2nd Class Jerry L. Goss, USN
Cryptologic Tech 1st Class Curtis L. Graves, USN
Cryptologic Tech Lawrence P. Hayden, USN
Cryptologic Tech 1st Class Warren Hersey, USN
Cryptologic Tech 3rd Class Alan Higgins, USN
Seaman Carl L. Hoar, USN
Cryptologic Tech 2nd Class Richard W. Keene, USN
Cryptologic Tech James L. Lenau, USN
Chief Cryptologic Tech Raymond E. Linn, USN
Cryptologic Tech 1st Class James M. Lupton, USN
Cryptologic Tech 3rd Class Duane R. Marggraf, USN
Cryptologic Tech David W. Marlborough, USN
Cryptologic Tech 2nd Class Anthony P. Mendle, USN
Cryptologic Tech Carl C. Nygren, USN
Lt. James C. Pierce, USN
Sgt. Jack Raper, U.S.M.C.
Cpl. Edward Rehmayer II, U.S.M.C.
Interior Comms Electrician David N. Skolak, USN
Cryptologic Tech 1st Class John C. Smith Jr, USN
Chief Cryptologic Tech Melvin D. Smith, USN
Postal Clerk 2nd Class John C. Spicher, USN
Gunner’s Mate 3rd Class Alexander N. Thompson, USN
Cryptologic Tech 3rd Class Thomas R. Thornton, USN
Cryptologic Tech 3rd Class Phillipe C. Tiedtke, USN
Lt. Stephen S. Toth, USN
Cryptologic Tech 1st Class Frederick J. Walton, USN
May they be honored as long as our nation remains independent.
TexB @ 41
Breakfast was never so much fun … ‘cept for the time I gave my nieces and nephews chocolate cake and ice cream for breakfast.
As I recall, my sister never let them sleepover again !!! *g*
TeddySanFran @ 48
“I knew Zed, and frankly, Uno, you are no Zed.”
Loo Hoo. @ 22
The name of the song is “Payday” off the album “Strike It Rich”. Hope that helps.
Alas, poor zed! I knew him, FDL; a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy; he hath borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! my gorge rises at it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft. Where be your gibes now?
The zed is gone.
Long live the non-zed.
Better read than zed
persiflage @ 42
Actually, the host’s name does matter cuz’ it’s Timmeh! (Tim Russert, NBC) who was on the stand during Libby’s trial. He’s the one Libby said told him Valerie was CIA.
Thankyou. Have read a lot about them, just don’t know what they look like.
tw3k @ 58
Nice.
Better Zed than dead?
CTuttle @ 53
He’s waiting until November. After winning the Nobel, this Summer’s concert, many weeks on the NYT Bestsellers’ list … the tidal wave of Gore-groupies will peak in November and sweep him into 1600, no matter the ‘opposition’.
His book Assault on Reason is a clever way to reawaken the American mind to Gore’s brilliance.
neurophius @ 60
duck and cover!
Petrocelli @ 38
Oh STOP my pounding heart! Gore/Edwards!
Mentioned it in the comments earlier today that I’m just nearing the end of Gore’s new book -
aptly named “The Assault on Reason” and cannot recommend it highly enough. Have read his previous books and the new one is truly compelling, bold and - well - world class. And highly readable I’m happy to add.
I zed what I said and that’s all what i zed.
Debbie(aussie) @ 62
Given what they DO look like I’m inclined to believe that this is one of those cases where ignorance is, indeed, bliss.
I think I am getting a zedache.
Suzanne @ 59
Zed is gone, but nought forgotten.
Zedi, zinni, ziti - let’s eat!
Debbie(aussie) @ 62
Here’s the breakdown … Glenn McGrath has more principle, character and talent in his left Pinkie than these three clowns combined !
Patrick 4/4 @ 71
don’t forget to decant the Zedfandel
The man in the video who is acting as host is NOT Tim Russert from NBC. The video is from CNN and is of James Carville & Bob Novak answering questions from WH Correspondent Ed Henry. (I had his last name wrong…Harris)
All right….off to watch the Daily Show and snuggle with the cats.
Does the new layout allow for ever-expanding zigs?
wordsmith, i see your comments are double posting. i’ve let the tech crew know.
neurophius @ 69
Take two Zedrins and call us in the morning.
punaise @ 73
For dessert - it will be the Return of the Zedi.
haha I’m watching CNNinternational, they just did a story of a “Goth Eucharist” and then there’s one called a “U2charist”… can a Youtubecharist be far behind?… sorry OT, but it made me giggle
punaise @ 49
Psalm 2:3 — “[God] who sits in the heavens laughs.”
You can’t make this stuff up if you tried.
Patrick 4/4 @ 76
let’s find out, shall we?
Patrick 4/4 - don’t even go there tonight. We are still trying to figure out all the big glitchs before we can even think about the bells and whistles :)
Don’t forget to flush twice….it helps to get all the Shrum crumbs.
-GSD
World markets a tad bearish today.
-GSD
newspaperbrat @ 78
Big Pharma bought them out, so it’s ex-Zedrin
Suzanne @ 77
Kinda freaked me out, too. I don’t know no technical stuff.
TexB @ 45
Along the way, Ma’am, it wasn’t pretty, it was mangled beyond recognition, it will take many threads to rejuvenate the Zed’s integrity and majesty!!! (sob!) *g*
Suzanne @ 83
Talk to TexB - she shrank her name to allow for bigger zigs.
On August 4, 2005, Novak walked off the set during a live broadcast of the CNN show Inside Politics, on which he appeared along with Democratic strategist and analyst James Carville (whom Novak had debated with for years on Crossfire), and moderator Ed Henry.
During a discussion of Republican Representative Katherine Harris’s just-announced 2006 campaign for the U.S. Senate and her claim that newspapers tried to tarnish her image by manipulating photos of her, Novak claimed he had experienced the same thing leading to a skeptical response from Carville.
Novak responded by saying, “Don’t be too sure she’s going to lose… all the establishment’s against her and I’ve seen these Republican – anti-establishment candidates who do pretty well.” Novak mentioned Ronald Reagan and Tom Coburn before seeing Carville preparing to talk. Novak cut into his comments and said “Just let me finish what I’m going to say, James. Please, I know you hate to hear me, but you have…” Carville cut in and said that Novak “got to show these right-wingers that he’s got backbone, you know. It’s why The Wall Street Journal editorial page is watching you. Show ‘em you’re tough.”
Novak responded “Well, I think that’s bullshit. And I hate that.” Novak then removed his microphone and walked off the set. After the segment ended, host Ed Henry apologized to viewers for Novak’s leaving the set “a little early,”. “I had told him in advance that we were going to ask him about the CIA leak case. He was not here for me to be able to ask him about that. Hopefully, we’ll be able to ask him about that in the future.”
(more)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.....e_from_CNN
wordsmith, if you could just let me know what browser you are using - mac or pc - IE7, Firefox, etc.
Patrick 4/4 @ 88
Just call me ZedB or ZigB. Will answer to either.
CTuttle @ 87
on a desolate road east of Paso Robles, under a full moon, Zed crashed into the careening sports cars driven by James Dean.
Dave Latchaw @ 57
Thanks, I sing it once a month for 30 years and don’t even know the freaking name of the song. Sad.
So true persiflage.
Petrocelli. :)
TexB @ 91
How about Zig Zig Sputnik?
Seriously, Tex and P4/4 - tonight would not be a good night to push those boundaries. The hassles with the software upgrade has had the tech crew going non-stop since this morning.
Lets torment the techies at a later date, ok?
Suzanne @ 90
pc - firefox…..ibm thinkpad win-xp
Suzanne @ 90
pc - firefox…..ibm thinkpad win-xp
GSD @ 84
Out of respect for Scooter Libby, no doubt.
Suzanne @ 96
Certainly. Next week when we’re bored.
Suzanne @ 96
Put it on the schedule - I’ll be there.
neurophius @ 89
I remember his little snit and exit well and thank you for the warm memories.
Oh, and Suzanne check your mail when you come up for air.
punaise @ 92
A most ignimonious demise! Only the good die young…!!! ;)
having suitably memorialiZed our pal, I have to do some work. back later?
wordsmith, ok. I want you to exit out of the lake and then come back in and post a comment. let’s see if that resolves it.
Peterr @ 81
God said, “Go forth and multiply!” He’s just doing his part … what’s so upsetting ?!! *g*
we’ll be here, pun. make lots of money for us to spend please.
Suzanne @ 105
I was doing just that.
Suzanne @ 105
I was doing just that.
Suzanne @ 105
I know you’ve never landed a jetliner before, but we’ll talk you through it step by step. You can do this!
The whole creation museum thing is very funny and just a little scary. Do Americans use the saying- ‘if you didn’t laugh you’d cry’. it is apt I think.
lolo @ 50
Nancy Pelosi’s first speech on the House floor, against the advice of the party leadership, was about AIDS.
TexB @ 91
How about Ziggy Texdust?
I know you’ve never landed a jetliner before, but we’ll talk you through it step by step. You can do this!
Because I stayed at a Hol*day *nn last nite.
punaise @ 110
Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue !!!