(Shot of spilled beans via Dougalug.)
The House Judiciary Committee will be taking testimony from Monica Goodling this morning, beginning at 10:15 am ET in 2141 Rayburn. C-Span3 and C-Span radio will be broadcasting the testimony live. And it looks as though the committee will have some sort of webcast going as well. I'll be liveblogging below, too. Hang on kids, we are about to learn what, if any, beans Monica decides to spill.
While we're waiting for testimony to begin, the LATimes has an article on Ms. Goodling that is worth a read. This is particularly noteworthy:
How a 33-year-old graduate of a little-known law school that teaches courses on the philosophy of punishing and controlling "sin" became such a powerful figure in the Justice Department is a key question for congressional investigators looking into charges that the department has been turned into a political tool of the Republican Party....Critics say that Gonzales, by countenancing the firings, hurt the independence of the Justice Department and revealed himself to be more concerned about doing the bidding of the White House than protecting the department's credibility and integrity.
"People like Monica … were misguided and didn't get it," said H.E. "Bud" Cummins III, one of the U.S. attorneys dismissed last year. Still, Cummins said, Gonzales and other senior officials deserve the lion's share of the blame. "It is their job to stand up and say, 'No,' " he said in an interview. "There obviously was a failure, no matter whose idea this was, at the top levels of the department to assert independent judgment."...
Mark Corallo, a former Justice Department spokesman, said Goodling was trying to bring balance to the department, and he ridiculed those who criticized her for trying to screen potential hires based on their political beliefs. The civil rights division, he argued, has long been populated by "some of the most radical Democrats in the law."
He called Goodling "a real perfectionist; an incredibly energetic, good person."...
Her tenure at that office appears to have been crucial to facilitating the plan to fire U.S. attorneys. Former colleagues said that she prevailed upon the head of the office, Michael A. Battle, to replace two long-serving officials who probably would have viewed the firing of prosecutors without cause as highly suspicious, and helped install a fellow Regent law school graduate as a replacement....
Later, as both counselor to Gonzales and the White House liaison, Goodling's influence appeared to grow. Working in tandem with Sampson, she was delegated the power to hire and fire scores of political appointees at the Justice Department....
Some people close to the selection process suspect Goodling and Sampson were attempting an end-run around the commission to install a politically connected Washington insider, possibly by using a law that permitted the attorney general to appoint interim U.S. attorneys without Senate oversight.
"They were caught in the act," said the person familiar with the process. "This was frankly a warning sign that problems existed among a relatively small group … who decided they had power and authority and could do what they wanted."
Is it too much to ask in an investigation of the politicization of the DoJ that we identify Mark Corallo completely as a GOP PR flack, who works in partnership with Barbara Comstock and has most recently been the paid, personal spokesperson for Karl Rove throughout the Fitzgerald investigation into the betrayal of Valerie Plame by her own government? Let's be honest: do you think that Karl Rove has any interest at all whatsoever in (a) spinning the public perception of things in this current investigation and (b) making Ms. Goodling feel like he is publicly on her side, all the while shoving a knife in her back when her guard is down? Is it too much to ask that we note that for the public record in a story in which Mr. Rove is clearly implicated?
But it is the line from fired USA Bud Cummins which really sticks in my mind here: "There obviously was a failure, no matter whose idea this was, at the top levels of the department to assert independent judgment." And that truly is the crux of the problem -- the seeking of justice is not blindly following orders. A frieze of justice at the US Supreme Court shows her weighing a matter on her scales, but her eyes are firmly fixed upon the constitution. You cannot properly do your job as a prosecutor if you are fixated on politics, you simply cannot. And the worship of following Bush Administration orders above all else -- the rule of law, the constitution, the good of the whole nation -- that is what has gotten all of us into this mess. With power comes the responsibility to use it wisely. Where are the adults?
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10:17 am ET
Hearing room is filling up. Goodling is standing by the table, consulting with her attorney, and Rep. Conyers is in his seat. Looks like we'll be beginning the hearing shortly. Goodling looks nervous this morning (how could you not be in her place?). Rep. Sensenbrenner is eating bits of a muffin at his seat, and several of the other members of the comittee are having little discussion nooks all over the committee area. Noise level is still high with chatter, so it may be a couple more minutes before they get started.
Goodling's attorney is hovering a bit behind her -- definitely some concern on his face regarding his client, trying his best to comfort her with an arm pat or a small smile. I'm wondering if it is an issue of nerves or worry over what she'll have to say in testimony and its implications Guess we'll see...
REP. CONYERS OPENING: Begins by asking that the photographers and press clear the well -- too many press for the room and blocking a view of the witness table. Asking that they move before the hearing begins. None of them were budging and they had to send a staffer down to herd them along and out of the way.
Conyers now welcoming the witness and members of the committee. Walking through the assertion of the 5th, and then the offer of use immunity for Goodling and the issuance of subpoena for her testimony and production of documents. Going through the litany on what grant of immunity can mean and that this is not dispositive of a belief of guilt in a crime. Conyers hoping that her testimony will encourage others, including those at the WH, to come forward and testify. (CHS notes: Wouldn't hold your breath on that one without issuing subpoenas.) If we cannot trust the DoJ to impartially enforce the nation's laws, if we cannot trust that the DoJ is being used as anything but pawns in a political game, then we will have sacrificed the rule of law.
REP. SMITH OPENING: Wondering if there was a link to Rove or Miers. Understands that the majority staff has learned that Goodling did not have any contact with Rove or Miers -- Smith says he doesn't share their disappointment. Questions about the differing degrees of proof on whether dismissal was for performance or other reasons have fueled these questions. If we and our investigators see that the question of politicization have no legs, we don't seem to stop but try to graft on fresh legs to keep it moving forward. We have not reached any final conclusions and should not until we know all the relevent facts.
10:35 am ET
Conyers now going through introductions and instructions for counsel. Goodling just answered a question and for those of you wondering, it is a high-ish voice. (CHS notes: Not that there is anything wrong with that, having a high-ish voice myself.) Conyers now mentioning that they have yet to receive documents pursuant to subpoena -- it appears that Dowd brought them with them to the committee today and has now turned them over, at least the balance of them at this point, after consulting with House Judiciary counsel and with the DoJ prior to disclosure.
Goodling been sworn in under oath.
REP. CONYERS QUESTIONS: Who put the USAs on the list to be fired? Goodling is claiming the fifth and sixth. Conyers now communicating the order for use immunity via DC Circuit, being placed in the record. Goodling told that so long as testimony and information provided is given freely and truthfully, that the immunity will stand -- but failure to be honest or fully truthful could result in perjury or obstruction or other charges being filed, should that be deemed appropriate. You may confer with counsel as needed to follow the order. Use immunity procedure has been completed, and her testimony will now be compelled.
MONICA GOODLING STATEMENT: Conyers says that they will include her written statement in the record. Copies are being distributed to members of the committee. Making a briefer verbal statement.
Wishes to set the record straight regarding the allegation that she withheld information from the DAG for committee testimony to the Senate Judiciary. Says that her work simply fell short -- believes that the Deputy was not fully candid about his decisions, poins finger at DAG's role on Griffen selection. Talking about the assembly of information for future private briefing session. Goodling says that she went to this briefing with him -- but just prior to hearing, DAG suggested that if members of the committee recognized her as the WH liaison, they would be more likely to ask questions about the WH. She was asked to return to DoJ. She said that she was not the primary liaison with the WH -- the AG and Kyle Sampson attended those meetings. "To the best of my knowldge, I have never spoken with Karl Rove or Harriet Miers while working at the DoJ." Did speak with their staffs. Never recommended to any of these folks that specific USAs be added to the list or removed.
First learned that senior officials to her were discussing possibility of replacing some USAs in mid-2005. First saw list of replacements in Jan. 2006, when Sampson showed her memo he had prepared for Miers. Goodling said she recommended Bogden and Charlton be added, but that they were not added until much later, presumably because of some other recommendation beyond hers (due to timing, she implies). Not aware with anyone in the DoJ adding the names of fired attorneys to interfere with any particular case. Finally, talking about her role in hiring and firing for career positions. Walking through her substantial responsibilities on this -- says she tried to act in good faith, and staffed with well-qualified individuals who supported the AGs policies and goals. Nevertheless, I may have gone too far in asking questions about applicants political involvement and I may have inappropriately injected politics into hiring decisions. And I regret that.
Now going through her desire to serve the public and how much working for the DoJ meant to her. Has no desire to say anything negative about the people that she worked with, but I am here to be a fact witness to what she saw, heard or knows, and is prepared to answer to the best of her ability.
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coffee and snacks I’m ready!.
and im biting my nails…..
What a great day to be home sick!!
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Monica looks a bit lost with all the attention of cameras clicking around her. She’s used to working in the dark behind the scenes. This is like shining a light on a roach. I wonder if her heart is racing.
raven @ 5
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Oh, well. Almost my first zed. A five’s not bad for a lurker who usually only gets to the lakeside late at night.
Anyway, I am SO glad we won’t have to see W’s Monica in her Jeebus T-Shirt picture anymore. She looks kind of like a young Ann Coulter…why am I not surprised?
I have a ton of work today closing out an investment round but I’ll be parked with laptop on lap, editing documents, and ready to throw the computer at TV Sensenbrenner when necessary.
ccmask @ 16
I Did .
Will it be imappropriate for her to be warned openly about committing perjury under her grant of immunity? I am concerned that she is primed to take this all on herself and state she acted on her own judgement.
AlexandriaCynic @ 19
Don’t you mean ‘Senselessbrenner’? I know…I’m going to Gabbly.
C-Span website not responding…??!!!
I really hope for some, tough focused questioning. Conyers can’t be Mr. Niceguy. He has to break her down, shake her to her roots.
Nothing is OT anymore, all these scandals meet at chapter 1, “Rove and Cheney.” And Monica Goodling was one of the primary bookbinders in that profane process.
I heartily agree with everyone who suspects the real reason Comey and Ashcroft refused to sign-off on the secret plan was that, despite its double-speak label, (”Terrorist Surveillance Program”) the real intent of the “program” was to enable spying on Democrats in the upcoming 2004 election cycle.
It may not have been explicit in the proposal’s language, but hidden in the legaleze of that program was some sort of twisted “get out of jail free” card that would have allowed “them” to use their new found surveillance powers to spy on their Democratic opponents.
And considering the mountains of trash that was being revealed about Republicans at the time, their desperation made thim slip-up by pressuring a pair of bona fide conservatives (Ashcroft and Comey) with their pernicious neocon demands.
One of the shameful factors that seems to be missing scrutiny, though, is how long it has taken for Comey (or Ashcroft for that matter) to reveal just how devious, disingenuousand dangerous the whole event became.
There is a lot of good reason to defend and commend both Ashcroft for standing up for our Constitutional rights. But why did they help perpetuate the cover-up with their long silence?
I think Comey’s really struggling with this, probably has been since it happened. Just how do you tell the referees that your captain is cheating, without being labeled a traitor by the guilty parties and their enablers?
Simple… you just DO IT!
Too late for that, maybe Comey and Ashcroft and many others who enabled the neocon cabal to perpetrate this travesty will come forward with revelations that will prevent this from ever happening again.
Can you imagine what the Republicans would do if Democrats built such a lawless gang at the top of their party? It would be a constant drumbeat of righteous indignation, and a constant demand for “the rule of law.”
Remember the Clinton Impeachment debacle?
So where were these great Protectors of Liberty when Cheney and Rove were so blatantly building a personal, private-interest, no-bid book-cooking shadow government within our Federal government?
I think these Republicansare only growing a sudden. new constitutional conscience because they lost in November, they lost in Afghanistan and they lost in Iraq. So now they claim America.
What a bunch of losers. And they are so afraid of the word “loser” they are willing to watch another thousand Americans die, simply to protect their false bravado.
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I’ve got the HJC webcast up but I have no sound. Is that b/c they just haven’t switched it on yet or should I head over to C-Span.
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This page on the HJC site has the link to the live -feed.
Capital J @ 23
I’ve got it up
This is going to be another one of those “Not getting any work done ” days.
I’ve got sound on C-span 3, but nothing’s happening yet.
Jane S. @ 25
CSpan-3 is working fine
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Helen @ 29
Hey there Helen…
I’m in Germany now, going to my birthday dinner in 90 minutes and will spend the next 85 watching this on my laptop. I hope it’s riveting!
Hey kdh22- ready to roll
RevDeb @ 32
Thanks, I’ll switch over.
She looks just like the prosthelyzer that knocked on my door last week…..so innocent, so pure eeeugh!
{{{{Christy}}}}
all set, wearing plaid for luck.
Goodness! Never saw such fidgeting before a committee hearing before…
Monicadearest looks as if her mother did her hair…
Englischlehrer @ 35
As do we all. Starting now. Looks like the gang’s all here, committee-wise…
Anybody know who the nastiest repubs on this committee are? I don’t really remember from the Gonzo session.
Here we go! (Lowering expectations)
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Helen @ 36
I had no doubts…and thanks!
Conyers removing some camera people to move. Too many of them. Filling up the whole space between the committee and the witness table
Move the cameras…we don’t want Monica inconvenienced.
Bye people…they’re accommodating her too much already.
Completely superficial assessment but I studied that Regent picnic photo of her and I just got from that — “deeply insecure and trying so hard”. That tiny little purse, Ralph Lauren’s name written across her chest…
I don’t have much faith in the House Committee. The Senators are much better at this - probably because many of them were prosecutors.
monica and sampson — kids in over their heads, drunk on their own importance, loyal only to the white house — are just the domestic face of the same mentality that had kids, good hard-right kids, to be sure, running and ruining the Coalition Authority’s efforts in Iraq.
it’s all of a piece.
Conyers Opening: MG asserted her 5th amendment. We gave her immunity (33-6 vote) She is there under subpoena. The fact that we are granting limited immunity should not be taken as any indication that she is guilty of a crime. Nor does it mean that she had a bigger role.
Anyone think shes on X*nax right now
Conyers: I hope this encourages the WH to cooperate. BWA HA HA
CSpan3 on cable running that subpoenas approved for Miers/Rove
What’s she wearing?
Conyers: We are looking into Ob of Justice; violations of Hatch Act. If the USA are pawns in a game of politics we would hae lost the rule of law
I can’t wait to hear her voice!
Watch Monica’s face for “tells” - already she’s shown an interesting pattern of blinks and lip movements as Conyers speaks.
Someone please sh**t me, that’s my critter up there now.
Lamar Smith: You are the last witness within the DOJ that we are going to hear from. Thanks so much. We have heard from nearly 20 witnesses and looked over reams of docs. Majority staff has learned that you had no contact with Rove or Miers.
Monica is smirking. I am not kidding
So far she a stone (to others not able to watch)she sitting there blank and looking straight ahead
“pleasure of the president.” take a shot!
Is that a standard Regent University dolly-do that Miss Monika has?
I’m reading ’stonewall’ all over her face.
Smith: She had no contacts with Rove or Miers.
The fix is in.
Nice–couldn’t Lamar Smith’s staff give him a phonetic spelling of “plethora” when they wrote his opening statement?
Is it just me, or does she look like a young Ann Coulter?? Creeeeeepy……
Monica’s eyes appear incredibly glazed, body rigid. Any guesses on how many Vali*m she munched for breakfast?
Will this be like the Watergate hearings where she’ll “consult” w/ her atty before responding to every question, thereby filibustering and never Answering?
(I played hooky in High School for weeks to watch the Watergate hearings.)
drop the puck!!!!
Unless we get some tought attorney-like grilling from the Dems this will be another waste of time. Rove and Miers, already off the hook??
Can I just point out that it is unjust that Monica looks so much better slept that Jim Comey did when he testified?
Am I lost in the blogasphere (sp) or did mods not like my question about X*nax?
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The repug said”to fined the truth ” but also has aready made his mind up that she’ll be the last witness. Cover up again by the R’S.
bonkers @ 66
exactly. This does not bode well…
My wager: she is going to burst into tears.
Is she a munchkin?
Conyers sounds tired already.
Eew, little girlie voice. “Yes thank you.”
She sounds like Minnie Mouse!
OH yeah - she sounds like Minnie Mouse.
Monica’s expression is now “**** you, Conyers.” Oooh, her voice is all little-girl squeaky.
She’s squeaky!!
She has 3 attorneys with her? Isn’t that unusual? One, sure, but 3 strikes me as overcompensation.
holy shit, she’s got a porno voice!
Her voice sounds younger than Snarkassandra’s. (age 15)
Good morning FDL
Dem-agog @ 71
Her voice just sounded like one on helium.
Christy, if you can fit it in, let us know about the “tells” that you observe.
She’s got a certain E-Harmony commercial xtian death cult aura about her. eww…
I’m worried about the servers but one question for the lawyers is are you allowed to leave DOJ with reams of govt documents in your possession?
Well Mr. Rove butt-kisser Corallo, when the vast majority of attorneys who bother to learn anything about civil rights law enough to be competent in the field are Democrats, the people qualified enough to be hired into a civil rights division tend to be, um, Democrats, you fucking moron.
Conyers: Re Doc. You want to confer with DOJ before they are released to us. We will give you a reasonable time to do that. Oh no - she has them as per Dowd
They’re getting the documents. That’s important.
The minority guy in his opening statement tried to lay out her defense. He proceeded to say the investigation has no legs and that Rove and Meiers weren’t involved. Basically he said the whole thing was due to performance matters. and oh by the way “We shouldn’t make up our minds before hearing the testimony.”
Nimrod.
Wooohoo they are SWEARING her in…. !!!
I want to hear Dowd say, “Goood Evening….” in his best Hitchcock voice.
Wow, they gave her cheat sheets, with tabs to help her “amnesia”.
This is gonna be good.
What about the documents she didn’t produce?
Okay, squeaky voice as predicted.
Wish Conyers would stop kissing the enemy’s arse and get down to it.
She’s being sworn in
Goodling being sworn in.
Sworn!
Englischlehrer @ 79
& her attorney is Charles Laughton. Radio silence now.
Swear her in! Swear her in ! Yes! Hahahah!
The oath: “under penalty of perjury.” Nice touch.
Bring on the bullshit.
question: has the fact that she taken immunity put her law license in jeopardy?
Holy crap - the Fifth!
Conyers: Who put names on list
Goodling: PLEADS THE 5th
Wow. Goodling has a little girl voice.
She really needs to take up smoking.
How medicated do you think she is?
Conyers: Who made the list?
Monica pleads 5th.
holy shit -taking the fifth!
Arrggghhh 5th Amemnded again
She takeing the Fifth
Good lord, she’s already taking the fifth oin her first question.
Oh no, honey. You gots immunity, you gots to testify!
patience…
Monica described as “good and energetic”. Puts me in mind of Bertrand Russell’s blistering essay on “nice people”.
Conyers: I am telling you that you have immunity. You have to answer.
perp walk upcoming?
already weaseling out
Relax, folks — Taking the fifth is preliminary to getting the grant of immunity into the hearing record.
Is this just theatre and to get it into the record?
what the hell is going on? She’s not gonna testify? What order did he give her?
Pleading 5th doesn’t bode well.
Conyers threatens perjury.
Conyers reading her the riot act. He sounds kinda pissed.
Conyers reading her the immunity statement and allowing her to confer with counsel. It’s going to be a l-o-o-o-o-n-g day.
Watch her attorney (why does he look like KR?)
Yes Monika, be careful how you answer. Perjury charges.
wow. I guess crying is still an option.
the fifth? yer sh*tting me.
oh are the dems looking stupid now.
we can only hope they get fed up and DO something about it.
Arca @ 107
She doesn’t need meds. She’s got Jesus on her side.