I know I've had boatloads of fun mocking wingnut bloggers for being the toenail clippings of the Mighty Wurlitzer, unable do anything but echo the messages that come down to them from on high while liberal blogs organize, raise money, push candidates and issues and create a real force within the Democratic party. But now it seems that GOP honchos are openly mocking them too, for the very same reasons.
Says John Linder, member of the House GOP Steering Committee:
"I really don't pay much attention to blogs," he said. "You can say anything on those blogs without any attribution and get away with it."
Liberal blogs have been influential, the Georgia lawmaker acknowledged. But he dismissed their conservative counterparts, saying, "I don't pay any attention to them."
There have been rumors for quite some time that members of the GOP speak privately about what a bunch of useless, embarrassing wankers Malkin, Instahack, the Power Tools, Red State etc. are, so it's amusing to see that they're coming out of the closet about it, so to speak.
There's also a pretty good article in the Washington Post by Jose Antonio Vargas about how the GOP lags well behind the Dems when it comes to an online presence. I don't know how much of the abject mediocrity of the right wing blogosphere is attributable to the fact that, as the Post article notes, the authoritarian, top-down ethos of the modern GOP is antithetical to the "often chaotic, bottom-up, user-generated atmosphere of the Internet," and how much can be placed at the feet of a bunch of second-tier minds artificially sustained by wingnut welfare that causes the talent pool to be clogged by enomous, stinking turds floating on the surface and choking out any possibility of quality writing or original thought from rising to the top.
Ah, the great questions of the ages.
Anyway, people like Erick Erickson are pissed that their leaders are laughing at them. I get it. Liberal bloggers are always written off as "vulgar" and "uncivil," but I'd much rather be considered an effective barbarian than a useless tool nobody bothers to read. Especially for those accustomed to slavering like a bichon frise at the feet of their leadership, that's gotta hurt.
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JANE!
GOP is top down, authoritarian. Always have been, and now more than ever.
Overheard at a wing nut swap meet:
Dude, I’ve got some TOTALLY AWESOME Karl Rove toenail clippings!!! Do you think Jonah would trade them for one of those used Malkin or Coulter thingies?
Jane writes:
BINGO! Once a lap dog, always a lap dog.
Considering Conservatives own talk radio, and that is what influences Congress critters the most, it is not surprising that lawmakers pay more attention to the care of feeding of the Talk Radio Hosts, e.g., the Talk Radio Days held at the White House. However, Conservative Talk Radio has been getting influx from blogs such as redstate.org, Michelle Malkin’s blog, NRO’s the Corner, and so on…
The top down thing is becoming a bit of a handicap now that the head has rotted clean off.
I think the difference is that progressives are willing to ask questions, where ditto-heads are willing to let others think for them.
I suppose that if you think the world is going to end in the next year or two, why learn anything or make efforts to solve problems. It seems like the fiscal deficit is just a symptom of an intellectual deficit.
Markos post on Ahnold this am creating quite a stir in the comments…including speculation he will challenge Barbara Boxer for the Senate.
Note that John Linder, quoted in the article, is a very conservative Republican.
Boxer/Arnie
Now that would be interesting
rwcole @ 7
Great image!
Tom DeLay tried to rectify things by starting his own blog to counteract the Left blogosphere. But then he made the mistake of going on public record saying he can’t write. That is: He doesn’t write his own blogs. That was a nonstarter right there.
Hi, Jane!
Maybe you’ve seen this already, but earlier today I saw an interesting article in the WaPo about how GOP online campaign fundraising currently stands at, wait for it…$385.00!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Seems they’re not very savvy when it comes to the toobz.
Gee, ya think?
I’ll go find linky now.
rwcole @ 11
Well it may keep Joe Lieberman away from our Golden State during that election cycle.
if those 2 in the picture of this blog entry are any indication of who the bloggers are on the right…. no wonder no one reads / listens to them! what dweebs!
Only the highly discerning can appreciate a finely turned phrase like “clogged by enomous, stinking turds floating on the surface and choking out any possibility of quality writing or original thought from rising to the top.” Bravo!
You go girl
Best
Maddy
I’m also willing to bet that Bush, Rove, Cheney, Gonzo, and a host of others are lousy writers. Don’t ask me why. I just “know.”
Court to decide whether Web site reporter is a journalist-AP
HONOLULU (AP) _ A lawyer trying to get an Internet writer to testify and turn over notes for a court case says Web bloggers shouldn’t have the same rights as mainstream reporters.
While XM plans to launch a new radio channel dedicated to the 2008 presidential election. The 24-hour, commercial-free channel, created in association with C-SPAN and other media outlets, will be called “POTUS ‘08.” (The channel’s name, pronounced POH-tus, comes from the Secret Service code name for the President of the United States).
Could be worse, we could live in Fiji, where “The Fijian military regime has declared anonymous pro-democracy bloggers to be a “threat to national security”, and have attempted to block Fijian access to common hosting sites such as www.blogspot.com,” said Mr Haywood.
Well, I found the linky.
Note to self: read post first. Read post first. Read post first.
mc @ 14
Jane’s got the link to article in her write-up…
Wow! I planted 4 links correctly and got a zed.
Who are the matching pair of blimps pictured? Anybody got a “Goodyear” stencil?
-ck- @ 5
Conservative blogs are like bird-droppings underneath the Rove/RNC pigeon colony. Since nothing they say is at all independent, and their fearless leaders know very well where it all originates, of course they don’t pay attention to their caterwaulings. Why should they?
And save those toenail clippings for “you do the voodoo that you do so well”…maybe apply for a little “Faith-based” Federal funding to improve the government and eliminate immorality and corruption. Seems the DOJ is hamstrung on those issues…so why not use MAGIC!
And what “thingies” are you referring to that Coulter and Malkin share in common? I’m not sure I’d want any “used” debitage from those individuals…unless I was using it for bad mojo!
Hi Jane. Hope you are feeling better today. Your post sure sounds like you have plenty of spit and vinegar at the ready.
Who are those people givin each other tie jobs.
I laughed and laughed when I saw the WaPo article about blogging. Too funny!
This is off topic but I just read in the WaPo that Richardson formally announced his candidacy today. Can someone please tell me how he managed to get into the Democratic Presidential debates if he wasn’t a “formal” candidate at the time? I have nothing against Richardson but what’s up with that?
Bad thinking also inevitably leads to bad writing: Plato’s reflective postulate.
newspaperbrat @ 9
A veritable Full Employment Act for Beverly Hills cosmetic surgeons.
In re: House GOP Steering Committee member’s comment about not reading conservative bloggers…
I can see where it would be more efficient not to waste one’s time reading what one sent out that morning for talking points.
It’d be like navel gazing when the barbarians are pounding on the gates.
ccmask @ 23
Congrats!
Biodun @ 29
So does laziness, at least in my case.
So, is a Visigoth blog or Vandal blog?
At their core, the rightie bloggers share a fundamental contradiction with W: they are full-throated in their zealous cheerleading for the War while completely unwilling to put any skin in the game. They who blog also serve?
I think not.
It’s Dear Leader-ship writ wee, in cheeto-dust on basement floor-tile.
OT -CNN: Cease-fire reached in Lebanon.
Splendid metaphorics. Just splendid.
Look at Phelps and his cult of fanatic followers. I never hear of any effective left-wingers who have a group of 100 obedient members who do things as
crazy creativememorable as Phelps and his crew.newspaperbrat @ 3
Hey, newspaperbrat. Jeff Feldman sent me a nice email saying how helpful you’d been trying to set up an appearance for him. Nothing but glowing things to say about you, I kept forgetting to mention it.
newspaperbrat @ 10
Yea, that’s been a rumor for at least six or eight months, and it might be true because Derr Boobengrabber’s still raising millions and millions, and if I remember right at least a couple hundred thousand recently.
Off topic, but kind of a cool video
The Civil War in 4 minutes
TeddySanFran @ 35
Cheeto-dust - FOTFLOL!
Thank you, Jane.
I really needed a full belly laugh today.
Effective barbarians:
Just like the Vandals who sacked Rome in the 5th Century BC (or BCE)…
mc @ 14
Sounds like it’s about what that Iraq Special USAID Fund that Bush announced about three years ago brought in. Remember his speech asdking for the faithful to contribute their own $$$ to help win the hearts and minds of the Iraqis in his little adventure? Well guess how much these wingnuts raised to support their Presidents request?
Here’s that special website they set up to take donations.
http://usinfo.state.gov/ei/Arc.....14442.html
It appears to have been defunct for almost a year (without USAID even noticing, BTW)…and the group contracted to collect the money and set up the web site cost more than the TOTAL collected!
And they haven’t even bothered to maintain the site!
Typical of the Administrations waste of our tax dollars and cronyism in awarding useless contracts.
Visigoth or Vandal?
Sorry, I’m more of a Viking or a Khatan.
peg @ 16
Well …there are the alcoholic, cosmetically-enhanced MILF types that love to do their video-blogs ad lib. Apparently it gives them access to the seats (or asses) of power.
There is a subliminal sexual overtone to that pic at the top. Putting another man’s tie in your mouth strikes me as positively Freudian. I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong though.
I was searching on the story of the Karachi man who’d died from rather horrific treatment at the hands of the ISI just the other day after detention stent for over 2 years at Guantanamo and came upon a particularly odious blog called rantburg. A fervent anti-Islamic theme pervades the fetid atmosphere there.
Does this qualify as self-loathing?
Ha! Floating turds! Jane you are spot on. Great post. I wasn’t aware of this backstabbing, but it’s great to see. (Veils slowly falling from Rethug eyes…)
TiredFed @ 27
Yep, the dogs and I are having a very fun and feisty day. Christy is back, it’s beautiful outside and TRex was on the phone making me laugh this morning while I was at the hospital getting blood tests.
I have made the absolute best friends as a result of having this blog. Can I just say?
noen @ 47
That, and the weird passive-aggressive stance make for a highly conflicted impression.
The GOP problem is that they haven’t done anything they can tell the truth about. Their supporters are nothing more than cheerleaders and audiences that applaud when their candidates praise torture. They are attracting the morally bankrupt. Seems to me they’re due for a reality check, they’re running low on credibility.
noen @ 48
Better than licking your comb, I suppose.
BTW I wonder if that means Wolfie carries “Essence of Riza” in his hair?
itwasntme @ 51
We learned some time ago that the Rethugs also laughed at the wakos on the “religious right” behind their backs too. I think we’re seeing the GOP splitting into it’s various factions. The center cannot hold when it’s based on lies and deceit.
“They’re Ugly and Stupid and Nobody Likes Them” must be a reference to Stuart Smalley, played by the lovely and talented Al Franken, the next Senator from the great state of Minnesota, right?
Or was that painfully obvious to everyone but me?
barbarian:
Caption contest?
A young Rove and a future Jeff Guckert.
cinnamonape @ 55
I didn’t even want to read that… ewwww.
Jane Hamsher @ 51
haha. well of course you can. it’s your blog, after all. hope your weather gets as good as it is here. walks in 70-degree weather with nary a cloud in the sky is what spring is all about. Is Marcy there yet? Was hoping for some live and in-erson liveblogging on Wednesday morning.
John Linder co-authored a book with the always very civil Neil Boortz. The book was titled “the Fair Tax” but should be subtitled the fair to the rich tax.
cancer_cures @ 59
I’m sittin’ in yur basement
Sucking on yur tie.
Digital divide separates GOP from Democrats
Republicans playing catch-up in Internet strategy as disparity grows
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18774299/
ThinkProgress: Right-Wing ‘Voting Rights’ Group Has Disappeared
Rayne @ 52
Those are a couple of College Republicans. That photo was over at Operation Yellow Elephant via Jesus General. For some reason, if I recall correctly. those 2 weren’t too interested in joining the military though they supported the invasion.
OT:
Padilla fingerprint match questioned
noen @ 48
Subliminable? Sometimes a tie is just a tie. Don’t you see men doing this alla time? (Cuz I don’t.)
From NBC’s Ken Strickland
While there was much discussion over the weekend about Sen. Chuck Schumer’s (D) proposal of a “no confidence” vote this week on Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, it’s “unlikely” to happen, according to a senior Democratic aide. On paper, having such a vote would appear to be a no-brainer for Democrats because it would likely get some Republican support. But in the Senate, there’s no such thing as taking a clean shot on an issue. If a vote did come to the floor, GOP leaders have procedural tools to either stop it or require a vote on on another resolution that would be problematic for Democrats to support. (”How about a vote on if the war is lost,” a Republican aide suggested.)
Always something I gotta look up.
Bichon frise
itwasntme -
here ya go - apparently the immigration bill has set them off
Malkin on the Chimp -(h/t tbogg)
some head case named John Hawkins -(h/t tbogg)
good times - heh
Jane Hamsher @ 39
He is a prince but of course you know that. His Framing the Debate book should be required reading for every progressive democrat and is right up there with Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals - destined to be a classic.
FDL book salon rocks!
..and sometimes a tie is really just a phalic symbol.
rwcole @ 69
I read that. What pissed me off about it was the unattributed Mitch McConnell quote:
Talk about talking points.
The brother Kagan in their salad days.
Margot @ 67
Great, why would they wait five years to test the critical document for fingerprints? Can’t wait for Our Man Lew Koch’s take on this….
that’s quite the shot to accompany this post. almost made to order stereotyping.
jerks.
as if it needs saying: the reason lefty blogs are useful for readers of all stripes is they have a fundamental respect for intellectual honesty.
right-wingers DON’T: usually, the truth is off-message.
actually one of them is a United States Congressman - will do some googling to get ya a name
TeddySanFran @ 68
Not even in beautiful San Fran? I visited once… the castro district… during Holloween… It was educational for a GLBT’er from Minnesota like me.
cbl @ 78
Surely not McHenry of NC?
noen @ 62
You forgot to add, “Sucking the Cheetoh dust on yur tie.”
TeddySanFran @ 68
“Wanna tie me up with some of your ties, Ty?”
From another one of my Top 10 Movies of All-Time…Caddyshack
Margot @ 66
Maybe they can pin it on that lawyer in Portland.
scarecrow @ 70
Sweet FDL counterpoint to
in CHS’s Frosted earlier today….
kdh22 @ 82
america wants to know:
why not top FIVE?
http://www.centurionministry.org/body/necktie.htm
kdh22 @ 82
What was that kids name? The one who threw up into the sunroof of the car outside the party? It’s been ages since I saw it. I saw it on a 12 inch Laser Disk, kinda dates me huh?
Wow. I had no idea the R’s were so backward when it came to utilizing the toobz. They’ll be hard pressed to catch up before 2008 as they seem to lack an intuitive grasp of the media. Such a calamity. I must find a teeny tiny doll handkerchief to weep into…
dmg@85
It’s somewhere between 5 and 7 so I thought I would err on the side of conservative (did I actually just type that word? Eewwww!). To be honest, the list changes often.
I know so many like those two idiots in the picture. I just threw up a little in my mouth.
noen @ 87
Spaulding.
noen @ 87
Spaulding
TeddySanFran @ 76
One would have thought that they would have checked ALL these application documents for fingerprints soon after they were discovered? After all these prints would have led to associating individuals at the camps with people running around under aliases?
But apparently that is not all that important? Or maybe they needed to wait until AFTER they got the individuals they WANTED in custody to hand them the documents (keeping their lawyers VERY FAR AWAY) to get the evidence “fixed”.
Check out the first redstate response to Erick Erickson’s blog post:
Spaulding - that’s who we’re up against, the Spauldings of the GOP.
Why has it taken so long?
Gotta love it.
While the righty blogs have been awash in faux testosterone since day one, all they turn out to be is a laughable distraction.They remind me of a troop of Howler monkeys, all screeching the alarm call because the left wing blogs actually have substance.
Getting pwned by their right wing masters?
Priceless.
apparently I’m wrong - they are college republicans - there was an image of drunken congressman partyin’ with the kidz about the same time - but I don’t have the stomach for anymore images of College Republicans - my bad
everhopeful @ 93
“Maybe after our party hacks look at a Democratic president, House, and Senate for a few years,”
I’m hoping that it’s the next forty years.
noen @ 94
Ten bucks says he eats it.
O.K. I need to stop, but you’re right noen, those be the ones! God help us!
Somebody at the Washington Post should tell Howie Kurtz that the right-wing blogs are joke. He takes them very seriously and quotes them far more than anything else.
We need to watch out for the new up-and-coming rightie bloggers. Dear Leader’s Rove will throw this current crowd overboard — probably the WaPo article was the first step — and there will be an entirely new crop of “grassroots” wingnut-welfare-subsidized bloggers percolating up through the current turds, as Rove ladles them outta the bowl.
The primary problem with this plan: the real reichroot folks are royally pissed over the “surrender-to-brown-people abandonment of America” represented by the Great Immigration Compromise of 2007. In his fervent desire for a domestic policy legacy, Junja may have choked off any possibility of the True Believers following him off that cliff.
Who will love W now?
dakine01 @ 80
This is a caption from Operation Yellow Elephant for that photo:
That’s Campus Crusade for Christ activist and College Republican National Committee Chair Paul Gourley on the right and Chris Tiedeman, former CRNC National Treasurer, on the left.
I peek at the Conservative blogs from time to time just to see what the opposition is up to. I think the conservative blogs are to the liberal blogs, what Fox’s “Half Hour News Hour’ is to ‘The Daily Show/Colbert Report.’ The Right does not have sharp analytical skills because they have never developed any. They have no talent for humor because they don’t understand irony, and on and on.
everhopeful at 93: You gotta love this:
I am afraid we will have massive 2008 losses–and even that may not get their attention! Give the Kossacks one thing: they made their party fall into line.
yep, that’s it — the Great Orange Satan cracked his whip and we all fell into line and took over the Democratic party. Please, please, follow that model!
Josh at TPM has a fabulous utube up re Comey testimony & Godfather pics:
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
AZ Matt @ 101
I was just guessing based on a pic I saw sometime back. The one on the left looked like he might be a junior congress critter of the clueless kind. Not that most of the redubyacan congress critters don’t resemble that.
AZ Matt @ 101
Oh f**k! You gotta b jokin’. These two morons were on the Exec committee of the CRNC. That explains a whole lot!
scarecrow @ 103
actually, they already have.
kdh22 @ 107
Well, IIRC that’s where KKKarl rover, and Ralphie reed, and Grover, and Abramahoff all got their starts so it appears the standards haven’t devolved very much. Not that they could devolve much lower.
TeddySanFran @ 99
Just like Daddy/41…”Read my lips…”
Then, the fall from grace.