As some folks here know, my day job involves working with companies on sustainability - working with them on issues of social and environmental impacts, transparency and accountability. The folks I get to work with are fascinating and passionate about making progress - even while juggling all the conflicting demands of our modern corporate world.
One of my favorite people in this work is Joel Makower - journalist and blogger - who has kept the corporate world thinking for years now about how to become more environmentally responsible. Not only is Joel funny and kind, he pushes all of us to look closer, to put aside unquestioned assumptions, and to make things happen.
So a little while ago, I was reading a new post by Joel and it really hit home. Writing about "greenwashing" - when companies "apply a green sheen to their far-from-perfect environmental records" - Joel turned the question on the rest of us:
I've been seeing the "G" word showing up more and more, in both local and national media. And while it's generally good that we maintain high standards for companies' seeking to claim environmental leadership, I can't help but ponder the hypocrisy of it all: how much more we expect of companies than of ourselves.
When I speak to audiences about the greening of business -- nearly every week these days, or so it seems -- I often conduct an informal poll to see how audience members behave in their personal lives: how many drive hybrids or carpool to work, or are simply driving less; how many have installed solar panels or purchase green energy for their homes; how many use organic or low-toxic gardening techniques; how many seek out locally produced goods; how many have taken the basic measures at home -- have installed energy-efficient light bulbs and appliances, water-saving devices, insulation and weatherstripping, and the like.
Some audiences are more tentative than others in volunteering answers, but even the most enthusiastic groups tend to have only a handful of members who appear to taking more than a few token actions.
That is, few of us have gone very far out of our way to make changes that we all know are necessary to address today's environmental challenges.
This admittedly unscientific research has limited value, of course, except to raise the inevitable question: Why aren't we doing what we're asking companies to do?
Joel goes on to ask "if there's a little greenwasher in all of us?"
And that sure made me think - and quickly order CFLs for all the lights in our apartment! So I was wondering - how are we doing?
I'll confess to being far from what I preach - I rarely drive (my old car is sure no hybrid) and almost always take the bus but I'm addicted to a brand of water that's shipped untold miles from a tropical island to my Chicago home. We're mostly an organic household but I don't check "food miles". We're pretty good recyclers but I leave on too many lights (as my daughter reminds me often). So I'm curious how other firepups are doing ... what ways have you found to make your life greener?
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Drive a motorscooter on trips where I can- gets 80mpg.
Will buy a plug in hybrid as soon as someone makes one.
I moved much closer to work- if I don’t bike, I drive a couple of miles as opposed to 30. My house is 1/3 the size of my previous residence. Most importantly, I’ve dropped 200 pounds of ugly flesh, also known as the ex-husband.
I bought a bunch of those CFL light bulbs and they suck. Now I’m stuck with them. Just turn down the old ones. That saves energy too.
And keep your tires pumped up.
Well, I drive very little, live in a small apartment that faces north and requires very little AC or HEAT. Make the kids walk most places. Also, we use CFL’s in almost every light, and shut the power to the TV & computers when not in use. We are also mostly a vegetarian household. Haven’t done much about buying locally grown food.
I wrote all about my effort on Sunday over at DailyKos, if anyone wants to check it out. Orangeclouds115 was kind enough to let me guest-post Sunday’s edition of her Vegetables of Mass Destruction series…
Don’t buy RoundUp.
Georgesimian @ 9
then how do get rid of thistle? seriously.
KiaRioGrl79 @ 8
Cool, thanks.
Round-up?
snowbird42 @ 12
toxic substance for getting rid of weeds
TexBetsy @ 13
But help, I use it fairly often for poison ivy.
Plant a garden! And teach it to your children. How many elementary schools have school gardening programs? Start em’ early, and they will always eat the cabbage they grow themselves…
i pay 2.4 cents/kw hour extra for electricity that is supposed to come from wind and small hydro. i’ve been using CFLs for a while. got my veggies from an organic CSA for the first time last summer. organic in the yard (and i have the lawn weeds to prove it).
but i do far, far more harm… from the lap top i’m typing on to taking a plane flight, heating the house in the winter and now cooling the house in the summer (i broke down a couple of years ago and got window air condition units for the summer). i use the dishwasher instead of washing dishes by hand. and the list goes on and on….
here’s the thing…. and it’s really depressing. i don’t think it is possible to live according to what we claim are our values in this culture (hell, by paying my taxes i’m funding the occupation of iraq).
we need fundamental systemic changes. by trying to make changes in our own lives we are working to change our own culture…. baby steps - but we’ve got to make them.
TiredFed @ 10
pluck it out YOUNG…
If you have a lawn, let it grow very long before cranking up the mower: less gas and noise.
My problem with the CFL light bulbs is that I like having dimmer switches.
And I live in the country, so PT isn’t an option. I drive too much.
I try to pay attention to the miles my food is shipped.
We have an extensive organic garden, which we maintain using hand tools and a rechargeable electric mower.
I’m about to go out for a spin with the wheel-hoe, so much as I would like to stay in this conversation, I should probably stop procrastinating …
JEP @ 17
hahaha. and watch it sprout in a million places!
I have severely reduced the amount of electricity I use, and I walk when I can. I also engage in organic gardening, and I always try to avoid products with petrochemicals.
We plant trees. Have a garden, that produces a lot that we eat.Drive our craft van as slow as practical(amazing how much gas it saves)
JEP @ 15
I don’t own the land around my apt, but I do have an herb garden. The elem and midd schools here both have gardens. Middle school and HS both have greenhouses and entire horticulture depts. The middle school also recently put up solar panels to power about a third of the building.
Thistle! ugh. But I never use roundup, just keep digging away at it, mowing it, scything it … endlessly.
Well,
We’ve replaced our top-loading washer with a front-loader (less water used, less energy used). We use the clothesline when it’s possible (if the wind’s blowing, you can’t use the clothesline because we end up rewashing the clothes to get the windblown dirt out of them.)
We’ve replaced our old refrigerator with a new Energy-star replacement. We replaced our freezer with a top-loader when it died.
We’ve put in a drip irrigation system for our ornamentals.
As incandescents burn out, we’re replacing them with CFLs.
I ride my bike to work two days a week.
When it’s time to replace my Accord, I’ll look hard at a hybrid/electric.
snowbird42 @ 14
Goats LOVE poison ivy, they eat it with relish… Find someone who will lend you a couple goats every spring, and they’ll take out your ivy for you…
I homesteaded in southern Iowa many years ago, before I followed my future wife to Greenwich Village for a while, so I’m not making this up.
er, we drive. A lot. we do carpool quite a bit and my hubby lives close enough to the office to walk, and he does. More for the exercise than for greenness.
We recycle EVERYTHING. Low energy lightbulbs on timers. Energy efficient appliances.
Hubby is a fanatic for natural pest control, no pesticides. We both cave when the ants blacken the counter every summer.
The black sin against greenness in our house is probably my gas consumption as I need to drive one of my kids to a special ed school 30 miles away. But we carpool with another family. Most of the families at the school carpool which is great.
I don’t know anything about food miles. Going to look into that. We buy store brand bottled water cuz even though we have some of the best tap water in the US, it’s more convenient at a sporting event and we provide it for teammates, etc.
This is all I can think of right now.
Nice topic. thanks siun!
Bike almost everywhere. Farmers market whenever we can. Only two incandescent bulbs in the apt–and the one in the fridge burnt out. Keep the microwave unplugged while we’re not using it. Having trouble doing more because we’re in an apartment and can’t upgrade appliances, insulation or windows . . . and I still have a weakness for hot showers.
I think this is a wonderful post and am glad that you’re asking the FDLers what we do, but a far bigger question is what the companies and corporations are doing. Supermarkets that close all the freezer cases instead of leaving some open can save tremendous amounts of energy.
It’s a little late to claim that you can do much of anything that matters, unless you’ve opted out of society altogether, blown up your TV, and raise your own food.
We’ve gone way past the point of no return, greenwise. We’ve changed the atmosphere, the oceans and all other waters. We still bathe the continents in dangerous pesticides and herbicides. And lets not get into chemical additives in every last thing we produce.
We are owned by corporations which do pretty much anything they wish to do. Cutting back on power, deodorant, travel–whathaveyou–might salve your own soul, but you can’t honestly believe that it matters, even if every last one of us behaves the same.
A little piety in daily affairs is a good thing, and waste-not-want-not is a nice homily to adopt, but do so as a matter of personal character. Don’t believe that it has anything to do with making the world greener. That’s delusional.
What I do:
The lights that are on most of the time (windows face east only) are all fluorescents, either regular 13W compacts, or the curlies that fit regular sockets. (They work quite well. I don’t understand the complaints about them not being bright: those LED lights are much dimmer than CFLs for most purposes.)
Fan instead of AC most of the time. (I’m considering getting some sheet insulation to put against the outside wall. Big problem is 4×8ft sheets won’t fit my car.) Extra blankets in winter (may get small space heater for cold periods).
Hybrid car. Walk to train station (10-15 minute walk) most days, so I drive maybe 30 miles/week, almost all on weekends.
Shopping - I go to a shopping center with several stores where I can get stuff most of the time, instead of having to drive to several different places to get stuff. I also try to do everything in one trip as much as I can. I also use cloth bags (some stores sell them, but you can make them at home. Use heavy canvas or upholstery fabric, and the webbing sold in bulk (it will last longer than the fabric: recycling).
If you use plastic cups, plates, and utensils, wash and reuse them. ‘Disposable’ doesn’t really mean that you have to toss them after one use.
While the season is right, I buy about 70% of our food at the local farmers’ market. I do errand-linking—saving up to do several errands on one day, rather than single errands several times a week. We run overhead fans, and plug-in fans, so that we are less dependent on air-conditioning. I can’t stand the fluorescent bulbs, unfortunately. It isn’t that “females don’t like how they look under the lights” thing—I just hate the light they put off. So I keep lights turned off when I’m not in a room (Mr. Dido complains about entering darkened rooms, but I scold him). We use the heat pretty lightly in the winter. I dry clothes by air when I can, and I have virtually nothing that needs dry-cleaning. When I do have to dry-clean, I go to Hangers, an environmentally conscious dry-cleaner. I hope to get a hybrid car soon, and I’m dreaming of solar panels on the roof (my mother got a bunch, and now her utility bills amount to about $800 a year–about 10% of what they used to be). Always set the dishwasher on “water miser” and “no-heat dry,” and remind myself that it actually uses less water than hand-washing does. We always use our cloth shopping bags.
I feel guilty about the electronic vampires–the computer and printer, for instance. So we got a computer strip for the kitchen and plugged the coffee-maker & toaster in it. It’s turned on only when they’re in use; so the kitchen vampires are under control—that makes me feel a tiny bit less bad. We use gas heat & stove, and will soon get either a gas water-heater or a heat-on-demand solar water-heater. I’m planning to replace my laundry machines with low-water, gas appliances. We just got an electric lawn-mower.
I know there’s more we could do.
TiredFed @ 10
Most thistles are edible. Seriously.
eyes of the world @ 24
endlessly is right. it came in a load of mulch and infested all of my flower beds. so cant mow or scythe. can only treat with herbicide. wish I knew of one that wasnt so toxic, as I live in the Chesapeake Bay watershed.
We recycle aluminum, metal cans, glass, newspaper, mags and catalogs, plastic bags/wrap, batteries and paint. Ms ET and the kids volunteer at the local recycling place.
We drive A LOT! Mostly for work, but also for recreation access. Mine is a VW Golf TDI. Ms. ET, ET Jr, and ETette share a couple of Subarus, and we just bought an old pickup for chores and hauling the boat. We each have bikes, but the distances between places we go are seldom measured in less than ten miles, so the bikes are mostly for recreation.
We grow about half or more of our produce. I catch most of the fish we eat, sometimes trading salmon, halibut or clams to friends for moose. We sometimes buy local fowl to eat, and often buy our eggs locally.
Shopping for the rest of the stuff, we stay away from Wal Mart and Safeway pretty much 100 percent, buying from Costco and Fred Meyer, both of which conduct good labor practices. We buy mostly organic food and virtually NO “processed food.”
Our house isn’t super-efficient. If we had 25K handy, we’d consider sun/wind upgrades for alternative power.
Good Efforts
Have been replacing burned out incandescent bulbs with compact fluorescents; recycle a lot [all kinds of paper, plastics, glass, corrugated, even plastic bags]; some light composting [should do more] in my organic garden; push mower [we call it aerobic mowing]; no pesticides; Mr. NJP works at home; I commute via train and use light rail or bus on bad weather days; both cars are compacts, and when we replace the older car, we’ll be getting a hybrid. Trying to restrict water usage. Grow herbs, tomatoes, cukes, arugula. Buy other seasonal produce at local farmer’s market each weekend. Take old computers, printers, and other electronics to county-run recycling center. Can ride bike to grocery stores [but don’t always]. Mr. NJP is great about walking to run his downtown errands [me not as much, but better than I used to be, child of suburbia]. Don’t travel much: seldom fly, make two long-distance car trips each year. Wash dishes by hand [no dishwasher].
Not So Good Efforts
I need fans, a/c, anything to keep cool [female of a certain age], tho’ our 1929 does not have central air [window units in master bedroom and Mr. NJP’s office; use fans elsewhere]. Should be hooking up with Community-Supported Agriculture for nonhome-grown produce needs. Have done nothing about looking into green energy through local utilities. Need to do much more with composting. Still use clothes dryer rather than clothes line. Should replace commode with low-volume flush model. Should replace current shower head with low-flow model. Should insulate water heater. Will need to replace refrigerator in 2 to 3 years: will get high-rated Energy Star model when that time comes. Removed attic exhaust fan because of leaks, but did not replace it at time [thought we were going to move to St. Louis!]; should get new attic fan [sadly, whole-house fan cannot be installed].
TexBetsy @ 29
Hi TB,
I dunno if all FDLer know this but SF just outlawed plastic bags for larger businesses (like grocery store chains). Indies can use them if they want. fyi.
Something I recently learned about was geothermal power for home heating. I wish I had known when we built our current house. It’s a must for the next one.
Put the last kid into college so I know this choice was easier for me to make, just spent the year with no electricity! Heat with wood and small amounts of gas. Live on quite a few acres, grow quite a bit of our own food, try to drive under 30 miles a day in a small economical nissan/sentra. (know this is not such an easy choice for folks, who live and work outside of cities etc.)
So interesting how far you can try to cut your consumption back. Harder to do with kids at home (although our family “footprint” was relatively small when all three kids were at home. We really focused on “living simply so others could simply live”
This sure applies as much now as ever before as the Iraqi people die by the hundreds of thousands, are displaced, injured, raped, tortured etc. all due to the U.S. and Israel’s need to access their oil and control over the region.
When most Americans hear their “selected” leaders (the Bush administration) tell them to go shopping as their civic duty. Most are happy to stay in their Dream bubble with pedals to the metal and comply with the Bush administrations advice as Iraq burns and the Iraqi people live in the hell on earth that the invasion created.
Our nation should be held accountable for CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY!
snowbird42 @ 12
Round-up (glyphosate) is associated with increased risk of lymphoma (cancer of white blood cells).
rwcole @ 4
Wait for it…
KyCole @ 5
I’m sorry, I just could NOT resist.
I do have a question. Most people cannot afford solar. Or really good windows. We can’t. We need better insulation but don’t have the money. What are people of moderately incomes supposed to do to be really GREEN?
My husband and I work at home. We own one car, a ford focus that we drive as little as possible. We don’t use any pesticides except that stuff you put on pets. We are having a tick problem and I found out that garlic is a repellent. I am thinking about spraying garlic water in the yard. We recently installed better but not the best windows. We take the train from Sac to the Bay Area whenever we go. We turn off the lights and have the good kind of bulbs. We recycle. I am shocked at how much crap we must throw out. What are the alternatives to zip lock baggies. We use Shaklee cleaning products that are great and green. (no, we don’t sell them)
All of this doesn’t seem to be a huge effort. There must be more people can do. What is it?
Replaced loads of plastic water bottles with a refillable stainless steel one that I put filtered tap water in. Also using cloth grocery bags and shopping local farmers markets. If only there was a solar-powered computer…
TexBetsy @ 23
I know that in Iowa, school boards can vote to put up a wind generator to power the school systems. I would also like to post this link to my own blog with a very comprehensive collection of links to multiple alternatives that, if put together in a complete package, goes a long way towards solving many of our energy woes… and before everyone jumps on the “ethanol costs more to produce than it provides” meme, look carefully at the plan, it DOES NOT depend on existing electric resource.
By utilizing local methane recovery systems to fuel the production of transportable biofuels, it represents a “renewable deraileur” that starts with local renewable resources and by “gearing up” creates even more renewable resources…
Oh yea. And we got a whole house fan and plant trees all of the time.
These websites are interesting for determining what your footprint on the planet is.
http://www.carbonfootprint.com/
http://www.climatecrisis.net/t.....alculator/
Mary McCurnin @ 42
We use plastic rubbermaid things in school lunches and often wash & re-use the zipper baggies.
Several communities in central texas have started buying their energy from solar/wind, and we get our energy from them. Also, all new traffic lights here have mini solar panels above and are otherwise off grid.
I don’t drive. Never learned how to: (I grew up in NYC.) I recycle. I have mostly CFL lights. I shop at the food coop ask for paper bags. I also get stuff at the farmers market. Unfortuantely, when I upgrade all my machines I leave the old ones in the dumpster.
HotFlash @ 33
TiredFed @ 10
then how do get rid of thistle? seriously.
Most thistles are edible. Seriously.
With my luck, these arent. and they are the worst kind - huge spikes. enough about my thistle problem.
We recycle like mad. I am constantly pulling things back out of the trash an sorting into recycling. We carpool for sports (have two kids in sports almost year-round). Changed to flourescent bulbs where possible (except on dimmers); we use fans and passive solar techniques to minimize AC in summer. We do big loads of laundry on cold water where possible.
Washing the dishes actually uses more energy (water) than a full dishwasher does.
Not to bum everyone out, but CFLs are dangerous; they contain mercury and if they break require special disposal and cleanup. Link to the full article is below, but here’s a relevant excerpt from an article about a woman who had to pay over $2000 for toxic cleanup after breaking a bulb in her kid’s bedroom:
“As each CFL contains 5 milligrams of mercury, at the Maine “safety” standard of 300 nanograms per cubic meter, it would take 16,667 cubic meters of soil to “safely” contain all the mercury in a single CFL. While CFL vendors and environmentalists tout the energy cost savings of CFLs, they conveniently omit the personal and societal costs of CFL disposal. It’s quite odd that environmentalists have embraced the CFL, which cannot now and will not in the foreseeable future be made without mercury. Given that there are about 4 billion lightbulb sockets in American households, we’re looking at the possibility of creating billions of hazardous waste sites such as the Bridges’ bedroom.
Usually, environmentalists want hazardous materials out of, not in, our homes. These are the same people who go berserk at the thought of mercury being emitted from power plants and the presence of mercury in seafood. Environmentalists have whipped up so much fear of mercury among the public that many local governments have even launched mercury thermometer exchange programs.
As the activist group Environmental Defense urges us to buy CFLs, it defines mercury on a separate part of its Web site as a “highly toxic heavy metal that can cause brain damage and learning disabilities in fetuses and children” and as “one of the most poisonous forms of pollution.”
Greenpeace also recommends CFLs while simultaneously bemoaning contamination caused by a mercury thermometer factory in India. But where are mercury-containing CFLs made? Not in the U.S., under strict environmental regulation. CFLs are made in India and China, where environmental standards are virtually non-existent.
http://www.junkscience.com/ByT.....70426.html
#1 way to reduce your carbon footprint: make it your life’s mission to find a place to live as close as you possibly can to where you work. Walking or biking distance if you can. I never cease to be amazed at the people who think they are saving money by buying a cheaper house an hour and a half drive away.
Unfortunately, very little of the US is saturated with public transportation enough to make it practical. I know people in Europe who tell me they don’t even NEED a car for that reason, public transportation saturates the community.
Hybrid cars are not on used car lots, and I don’t buy new cars. I don’t own a home due to attempting to be mobile in my career, and even if I did, most HOA’s wouldn’t take kindly to digging up the greenspace for a garden, at least not in S. FLA. Xeroscaping is about to be vogue down here anyway.
Fuji?
I’m a New Yorker, and we’re pretty much the greenest place in the country, given our person to auto ratio, our sq ft of living space to person ratio and our use of public transportation. Recycling is the law, and the law is enforced.
But, at the same time, buildings leave their lights on all night. Stores in the summer leave their doors open and the AC running. Women hang sweaters on permanently their office chairs so they won’t be cold in the summer indoors at temps set for men in suits. Trucks idle, double parked.
Last summer Bloomberg managed to avoid a possible blackout by simply asking every business to close their doors. A ConEd engineer I know said that had made a huge difference in the overall load.
We could easily cut our energy consumption by 20 percent, and barely notice.
Biodun @ 48
There are places that recycle computers and computer parts, monitors, etc.
We’ve switched over to CFLs, are planning to make the next vehicle a hybrid, try to buy green products and organics as much as possible, and don’t support factory farms.
If anyone has started using CFLs, please be aware that they need to recycled as hazardous waste. They contain significant amounts of mercury, and need to be hazmat handled. It’s unfortunate that the manufacturers don’t advertise this fact. If disposed in land fills, these could become potentially dangerous.
We’re also looking into incrementally switching to solar. Starting with hot water and pump, and going from there. I was disappointed recently when a friend told me that the manufacture of solar power products is heavily polluting - she claims that it is enought o outweigh the benefits - and she has a house that is totally off the grid. I haven’t done follow up research, so I’m not sure about this claim. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Hi Siun, I’ve been swamped the last six weeks or so - have a tiny respite today, home with a sick child. In another month or so, life will be easier and I’ll be in touch.
ot - webb up on c-span2 trying to explain why he didn’t vote for feingold’s bill to “redeploy” the troops. say’s he’s against an “arbitrary” withdrawal date.
excuse me while i go screaming from the room….
Georgesimian @ 9
The guy at the hardware store here told me that the chemical in Round-up is the same as Agent Orange! I don’t know if that is true or not.
TiredFed @ 10
Do you have to get rid of the thistle, what’ll the poor goldfinches eat? btw they are the P.A. Dutch Distlefink (thistle finch). They rely on the thistle fluff to line their nest, so the nest a little later; and then of course, they feed on the seed.
But thistle is a blight on the managed landscape, and prickly, too, but it’s not all bad!
I bought CFL bulbs, purchased carbon offsets, switched to a vegetarian diet, started recycling properly (not just every now and then) and bothered my friends into doing some of the same things.
Bugboy @ 52
I would love to bike or walk to work but disability prevents me. However, I have a 6 mile commute, nearly all on the highway.
JEP @ 17
You haven’t met some of the stuff I have. You need armor just to handle it, never mind get rid of it. (The stuff that gets spines as soon as it reaches daylight.)
Roundup is what you need for poison oak and poison ivy. (Then you bury the remains - seriously.) It’s also for those of us with more weeds than time. I suspect it’s less toxic than the heavy oil sprays that used to be used for getting rid of weeds.
You can’t dig up some weeds. Nutgrass - you miss one of those bitty tubers, and it’s back. (They used to sell stuff for it, but don’t any more, because it used arsenic.) Then there’s weed-from-hell, which is apparently some kind of knotweed (Polygonum) and has rhizomes that sprout from any bit left (they go deep, too) (and leaves that are wax-coated so spray doesn’t affect it, and it out-competes ivy as well).
PANNA (Pesticide Action North America is a great resource for people looking for ways to garden and farm without killing off their families and neighbors.
PANNA’s web page offers a resource library with oodles of help.
The resource library’s alternatives page points to more assistance for those transitioning away from spreading carcinogens, neurotoxins, and fertility disruptors around and within their dwellings.
Good luck! Your children (and their children, should your adult progeny still be able to reproduce) will thank you.
Wow - folks are doing a lot of good things!
I’m taking notes here …
I will say that companies are doing more - and more. They’ve discovered that a lot of green practices save them money too - better for the environment and for the bottom line.
Mary McCurnin,
We have similar problems. I have been thinking about ways to go green(er) one step at a time, but the Pwrs that Be are no help. So I have started a neighbourhood blog, many of our folks don’t compute so I am delivering by hand to them, just Hello, how are you, stuff that I hope will blossom into othere stuff. Say, a co-op so we can but solar panels at a discount or something, at least share ideas. A neighborhood laundromat, a neighborhood windmill, a neighborhood geothermal dig for house heating, that’s down th road. For now what I am aiming for is 7 houses to go in with me on a Good Food Box program, some carpooling for trips to CostCo and to involve some of my older neighbors who don’t drive at all, and a neighborhood help-each-other sort of thing for my older neighbours who need simple household repairs or trips to the hardware store or garden centre.
I am hooking up with my electrical/electronics genius buddy for a little battery recharger that will work off small bits of energy — a bicycle, an exercycle or rowing machine, a tiny windmill or a little whirligig that snags a few voltsbit of energy from the rain running through my downspouts.
How’m I doing?
On the plus side, I recycle aluminum, plastic, glass, and paper. The last car I bought, I chose specifically with gas mileage as one of the prime considerations.
But there’s a lot more I could be doing. I could (and should) walk to work more often. In fact, I think I’ll walk today, even though its my usual day to drive.
Bob in HI
LS @ 57
HOLD UP! The problem with Agent Orange was Dioxin contamination due to poor quality control due to the shoddy bidding process inherent in government purchasing, not because herbicides are all bad.
Garbo- The source you cite - junkscience -on CFLs is a rightwing anti-environment site. In the past, they claimed that organic foods were bad for you too.
They are funded by folks related to the Hudson Institute and part of the wingnut machine.
And they lie.
LS @ 57
no, that’s not true, agent orange’s the mix of herbicides 24D and 245T.
LS @ 57
Don’t buy Roundup! Its purchase enriches people who are poisoning the planet. Human civilization and agriculture existed for 35,000 years without chemical herbicides.
Half of Americans live within 30 minutes drive of a farmers’ market. Great way to eat health local food, decrease food miles, decrease total hydrocarbons used for food transport…
and live longer.
Mary McCurnin @ 42
it can be agravating… i have less $ than anyone in my family - and i’m the only one paying extra for wind/hydro electricity or CFLs (although i think i’m making progress on that one). mostly they treat me like a chump (even the Ds) for not choosing the least expensive option.
this is what i mean that when i say we must change our culture.
Mary McCurnin @ 42
Mary,
We mix a clove of garlic in with our pooches food in the morning. It’s meant to be a repellant. We have short haired dogs, so it’s easy to do the tick check.
Onions and garlic in high doses can be harmful, but a clove a day is fine. They’re a bit stinky (stinkier) for about an hour after they eat, but they scarf down their meals, and seem really to enjoy it.
kirk murphy @ 62
I love my mantises! And watch over their egg cases all winter.
CSA. Community Share Ag. We buy a share, the farmer brings us locally grown produce ( and a little chicken). I’m going to harvest some venison from his farm this November, but prolly only he and I will eat that (with our mostly veggie family).
Lights, walking, effecient insulation, check.
BTW…buy empty bottles (and reuse), that bottled water is coming from my precious great lake basin. Me and the trout prefer it to stay here, thanks.
Siun @ 63
I know 2 people with home geothermal heating. They say you can keep your home warmer in the winter, cooler in the summer, pay far less, and reduce oil consumption. The upfront cost is higher, but payback is fast.
I’ve replaced all my light bulbs with CFLs they happen to help out alot on my light bill as well as the environment.
TiredFed @ 10
Pull’em up before they go to seed, and put the pulled-up plants in a closed trash bag so they don’t go to seed and disseminate seeds after you pull’em up. That’s what I did when I lived in AZ.
Bob in HI
TexBetsy @ 54:
Yeah I know. But I’ve been too lazy or otherwise too busy to locate them. Besides, I know for a fact that scavengers raid my building dumpster, so I trust them to do the recycling for me and make some bucks for themselves doing it.
The “toxic cleanup” of a busted CFL is an urban myth. The amount of mercury in a CFL is tiny (less than a hundredth of what used to be in those little thermometers), and just thoroughly cleaning up a busted CFL is perfectly adequate “containment”.
Besides which, burning fossil fuels puts mercury into the air we breathe — using a CFL will actually mean less mercury into our environment over the lifetime of the bulb.
We replaced lightbulbs with flourescent bulbs years ago. Have a seven year old Honda Insight that averages around 60 mpg (a great commuter car no longer for sale in the States where there was little interest), and a newer Honda Civic hybrid that gets around 45 mpg. Replaced fridge, washer and dryer with most efficient models available as we could afford to, hang out the laundry several months of the year, have a solar hot water panel for outdoor showers five months of the year, buy local produce as much as possible from local farms and co-op, use the Restore brand refillable cleaning products, recycle, turn on the tap rather than buying bottled water from all over the globe, and this summer added two 400 gallon stock tanks to our rain water storage capacity for watering during dry spells. Removed some large pine trees from the south side of the house for solar gain, planted shade trees to the south and west. We are from the generation that took the first Earth Day very seriously. Americans are brought up to believe that if they want it they should have it, without looking at the costs to society or the planet. Heaven help future generations.
Reading through the comments, I’m reminded of three good reasons to live in Alaska - virtually no thistles, no ticks and - I know it hasn’t come up, but I’ll throw it in there - no snakes. I am growing my favorite thistle, though - artichoke. We are the only state where dandelions are native rather than invasive.
I never spray for bugs, I like most of ‘em anyway. And I especially leave alone the creepy crawlers that eat insect pests. love my spiders, not too fond of the centipedes but if they mind their manners, I won’t punish one if I surprise it in the night.
And I recycle what I can and I try not to use extra energy, doing wash off hours, eg. But I don’t do enough.
Hotflash,
Are you near Sac, CA?
I think you ideas are great.
Also, here is an idea I had. The weather here is HOT. Seems like summer heat could generate the energy to cool the homes. Maybe use the heat in the attic that is vented through those twirlie roof things to make energy. Clearly, I am not a scientist.
Froomkin on Comey:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....id=topnews
Loo Hoo @ 84
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Bio-control is a great educational tool but is really expensive to use, the bugs don’t like to cooperate. First you have to grow the bugs, then you have to make sure they stay where you want them and do what you want them to do. It never works out that way. But the press you get from the attempt usually is worth the effort.
By the way I do agree with the sentiment about mankind getting along fine without pesticides and herbicides for thousands of years, this is all about maximizing profits when you talk about using the materials. Monocultures rarely exist in nature, that’s something scientists and agriculturalists need to take a hint from.
LS @ 57
all those things are neurotoxins.
We’re a two-Prius family (or is that Pri-i?). But I do put a lot of miles on mine, living 13 miles from work, and doing other driving, so I’m going to start riding a bike in one day a week (the time required would be too much to do much more than that).
We have compact flourescents in most places, but a couple of rooms have dimmers, so those have the old-fashioned bulbs. My wife found some LED Christmas lights that are really cool (literally: they stay cool to the touch because they make the light without making heat, which also reduces the fire risk if the tree dries out).
We’ve been thinking about solar, haven’t done anything about it yet.
Well, as I’ve said in another thread, I quit smoking. I bike to the store now (thanks to my healthy lungs) instead of driving. I use those spiral bulbs in every light fixture.
Now if I could just figure out a way to ride my horse to work…
“Weeds”? Weeds are just perfectly reasonable plants that your neighbors don’t happen to like. Tough nouggies, as kids used to say when I was one.
my “G” word is Guinness… I’m probably not doing enough green stuff, though… I need to think of ways I can do more - a lot of times the advise given doesn’t really apply to me… e.g. ride a bike to work… I drive an hour to work in Florida heat and rain…
Ed*ard Teller @ 81
Ah, dandelions, also edible.
OT, unless you consider this situation an example of recycling gone amok:
World Bank officials say the bank’s board is completing an “exit strategy” that will allow World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz to resign this afternoon and “still save some face” over the issue of his efforts to seek a promotion and pay raise for his girlfriend at the bank.
- from ABC News.
TexBetsy (54) — check into Freecycle in re: your computer/technology waste. I know I’m looking for opportunities to recycle old equipment, scavenge regularly for bits and pieces.
Mary McCurnin (42) — you simply do the best you can, and it counts for something. For folks of moderate means, sometimes the easiest way to reduce carbon footprint is to find ways to save money. Using a clothes dryer is more than 25% of my power bill, for example; I use a drying rack or a clothes line whenever possible for this reason, and it’s not only greener but a huge savings. Buying food that’s not processed is a huge savings, too; I can buy a pound of dried lentils and cook them for a dinner that costs under $3 for a family of four, using less energy and packaging than if I bought something partially processed. I also think about how often I use my car and try to cut back. I keep dry milk on the shelf in case we run out in the evening, so that I’m not tempted to run out in the car for a half-gallon of milk using a half-gallon of gasoline.
Bit NOLA (30) — if EVERYBODY did the kinds of things I just described, our carbon footprint would be reduced enough to defer the impending crisis, perhaps long enough for us to actually solve it. Resigning ourselves to defeatism means we might as well just cave in and start culling the herd now, instead of waiting for the inevitable famine and suffering. I take it you’re for culling.
Garbo (51) — there are programs in place and in development for disposing of CFL’s. I use them only where I expect to have lights on all the time for security reasons, to try to both reduce electric consumption while balancing the mercury use.
TiredFed (10) — check GardensAlive!, see if their herbicidal soap will work on thistle, may also work on poison ivy/oak. You can find them on line.
Bugboy @ 86
I never have an insect problem at my house, save the occasional ant incursion. It works for me.
in production you have to integrate your pest management