There's been some healthy discussion lately about how to build up a blog community, mostly in the context of encouraging more diversity within the progressive online movement. Jenifer Fernandez-Arcona wrote a good diary here, and Matt Stoller identified some best practices for using an online platform to build power here.
I'd like to jump in with some things I think we've learned here at FDL about how to build a successful online community and platform, with the caveat that this is just my point of view, and I'm not saying everyone has to do it the way we have. I'm also not saying that our model would apply directly to all communities, for example, to communities who traditionally remain excluded from widespread Internet usage due to economic pressures and structural lack of access. So, grab your salt, and keep the grains handy as you read. Successful case studies are helpful, but they're not the end of the conversation.
Tip #1: Post Fresh Content Every Day, Multiple Times Per DayIf you want to generate a pretty highly trafficked blog community, then the "physics" of the online audience and medium demand fresh content all the time, multiple times per day. People will come when they feel they might be missing something good if they don't stop by. That doesn't really happen with just daily content, because people can scan and absorb in one quick sitting a few blog posts at once. That means, if you post content daily, they can surf through your blog once or twice a week.
That can become a vicious cycle. There is a lot of competition for eyeballs out there. With other sites doing more content than you do, you risk falling behind, and people may fall out of the habit of checking your site. Blogs can have a shopping mall effect: everyone goes there because everyone goes there, and your specialty shop may have great stuff, but if it's in an out of the way location, people may just miss it.
Tip #2: Enlist a Group of Writers
Because of the incredible demands involved on your time for Tip #1, you really should get help. Even Atrios, the Cal Ripken, Jr. of the blogosphere, has people with keys to the site like Attaturk or Thers who jump in when he's busy. If it takes you an hour or half an hour to write a post, expect to do two or three times as much time in reading before you write, because the only value you have to a reader is the ability to bring a fresh perspective. That means reading so you can connect some dots or do some digging and research. That might mean reporting, as TPM does through its network of sites, or it could mean higher level commentary and the provision of insight, the way Steve Gilliard, Digby or Taylor Marsh do, to name a very few.
Tip #3: Build a Brand and Exploit a Niche
In the business world, more than one company can exploit a given niche. For example, both Borders and Barnes and Noble sell books in retail stores. There are many frozen food companies. But in the blogosphere, it seems to me that each successful blog does something unique, and once that territory is claimed, there's no real opportunity to grab that audience by doing more or less the same thing, unless the first mover retires from blogging.
For example, Jane Hamsher saw a niche for a strong woman's voice in politics whose point of view was rather broad in terms of progressive politics. Steve Gilliard has a niche that combines journalistic critique, great historical knowledge (especially military history) and an African American perspective. Glenn Greenwald brought an incredibly focused and knowledgeable voice on civil liberties issues to break out in a timely fashion on the NSA wiretapping story, and now he's broadened that brand to include devastation of right wing arguments and trenchant media critique. (By the way, he also posted more than once per day, in the form of updates to the main post throughout the day, when he was at his old site before joining the Salon team). John Amato at CrooksandLiars does self-hosted video content mixed with pop culture, especially music (he's a former professional musician).
Your brand has to be a genuine reflection of your passions. You can't fake passion in this medium, and the demands of writing so much content require you to have a lot of fire in the belly to keep after the kinds of stories and issues that animate you. When you recruit people to join your blog as a group, as in Tip #2, be sure you don't dilute your brand/voice, but bring in people whose style and perspective complements it. If you create a site where people can post their own content, such as DailyKos, you can open up the doors a bit to all kinds of ideas, but some process for sustaining the brand by having a system to give the most front page real estate to people you select should be in place, otherwise, your brand will be a muddle. This creates dissonance and mush, and flame wars tend to drive people away. This is why no one really reads message boards any more.
Tip #4: Cultivate Reader Participation
It's impossible to create a community blog without a comments section. If you want a wide audience without that, you have to be a celebrity of sorts in your own right. In politics, this pretty much means being a right winger, as Hugh Hewitt, Matt Drudge and Andrew Sullivan have long been quoted, promoted and courted by establishment media outlets. On the progressive side, we have to build our audiences organically. How?
Interact with your commenters. When you post, hang around to respond to comments and questions. People like to react to what you've written, so engage with them. This is another great time demand, because time you invest in reading through comments is time taken away from all the reading and writing you need to do to keep your audience. On the other hand, once your little community begins to take root, some of your best story ideas and the links you need to research them will come from your commenters.
The other part of this is you need to have some community standards for discourse. Whatever your rules are for community discussion, be consistent with them. Over at Steve Gilliard's site, people do a bit more smashmouth give and take than they do here, but people there know the inherent rules. DailyKos has a pretty well running community process for weeding out those who behave destructively, though even there, things get a bit more raucous than they do here, or at MyDD, for that matter.
I think the gender branding of the main part of the community has something to do with it: FDL is fronted by strong women, attracts more women as readers, relative to most other sites, and therefore may reinforce a bit more emphasis on relationship building, and not just the competitive winner versus loser debate dynamic. Some comments should be removed: for example, here at FDL we have a standard that content we deem to be bigoted or racist is not acceptable here, which is part of our dedication to create a safe community for commenters as best we can.
Tip #5: Do Consistently Great Writing
You can't be great all the time, but you can try.
The medium demands you get to the point with style and wit as quickly as you can (this blog post notwithstanding!). Long or academic type meta-reflections on whatever interests you are not likely to be popular except with a narrow band of readers. Get to the point. Reread The Elements of Style. Omit needless words.
There are plenty of really bright people out there whom I would like to read more, but they make it hard for me to find their point. Very, very few people (like, almost no one) can write longer posts like Digby and get away with it, because Digby's clarity of thought and depth of insight are so legendary that a whole subgenre of posts has emerged, called, "What Digby said." I confess there are a few people where I just jump to the last paragraph and then read paragraph by paragraph backwards if they catch my interest once I find their main point. Don't take a long time to wind up.
You can write a bit longer if you have a real flair, with wit and imagery that entertain, or if you're telling a great story interspersed with blockquotes and tidbits that break up the page for the eye (TRex here at FDL does this really well), especially if you are offering content outside of the rush of the news cycle during business hours. But shorter is almost always better. This post could be shorter if I had time to edit it better, but I don't. The value in a longer post like this is that it's offering fresh, original content that is action oriented, so for its core audience, the people I want to reach, it hopefully has value.
This illustrates another writing tip: help people discover what they can do to change their worlds or improve their lives. People want hope, and they can take more control of their lives with encouragement. If your message is persistently pessimistic or fatalistic, don't be surprised if it's hard to build an audience.
I almost think I should have put this tip first, because without this, you will have no opportunity at all to do any of the rest. What's more, you have to keep this up. This is a ticket to admission item for building and keeping an audience.
Tip #6: Make Online Friends
A lot of people talk about promoting your blog, and that's important. But gratuitous blog whoring can hurt your reputation. The real issue I think is making friends. How do you do this?
Go to other people's comment sections. Become known in other blogging communities. Chat. As you chat, you will find opportunities to share with people content you've created that fits the interests of people in that community. Again, this takes time, but it has to be done. That's how you make friends.
Notice this is different from an effort to pressure others to link to your post, particularly if you accuse someone of being racist or sexist just because they don't know what you're up to. Look how much time it takes to do this stuff. If people aren't linking to you, it's much more likely that the reason is because they don't know what you're up to, assuming your writing is really good and your stories and issues seem to be appealing to the larger blogger's audience. It is true that people tend to find most easily those with whom they have the most in common, but online or off, building bridges means making friends.
Please note, I'm not saying progressive bloggers who value diversity and who understand the marginalization of traditionally disempowered communities should not make an extra effort (in the context of all of the above) to look around to see what else is out there, but I am saying that this is a two way street, and making friends works a lot better than launching attacks. Attacks, in fact, are more likely to backfire, as any human being is going to be a little cautious about sharing an audience with someone who has made a big point of attacking the potential referring person's character.
Bringing new ideas is good. Everyone needs accountability. I've learned from people who have criticized me even when I have not believed their criticisms to be fair or fully informed. In general, people can learn more from critics who share new ideas in a spirit of friendship or potential friendship, and certainly, that's the approach most likely to lead to the kind of links you want to help build your community and site.
Tip #7: Know Yourself and Why You Want to Blog
This is all a lot of work. It's a helluva lot of work. It's consuming, invigorating, exhausting work, and so far, very, very few people have been able to support themselves doing it (and even at a site like this, with our audience and track record, you won't yet find any here). A number of bloggers are working together to help bring more resources into the blogopshere so that even smaller blog site hosts can gain more financial support for what they're doing. This is an effort designed to help build a movement, and not just to help a few already big blogs or bloggers. I can't say much more than that, but there are efforts underway, so we'll see what happens.
If you don't want to do all that work, or you can't afford to, that's fine. Know yourself. I could not have done what Jane did writing new content all day every day for more than a year, doing all the things I've described above, even before Christy joined the site. I ended up here by being a community member who, through my content and banter, made friends with people here, and when Jane and Christy, exhausted, needed front page help, they asked me. I do politics part time around the edges of running my own business. I know my limits.
If you like to do what you do as a blogger, and recognize that it's not going to generate anything more than a loyal, small following, that's fine; there's nothing wrong with that at all. I had a conversation recently with a blogger who had come to that realization for himself and was accepting it, even finding the acceptance a bit liberating. Not everyone should be doing this stuff, because there are many more ways to lead a fulfilling meaningful life, and many more ways to do your part to promote change in our society.
Blogging is not the be all and end all: it's just one activity among many. For those who can make a go of it, it does become addicting and thrilling to feel as if you're having an impact on our society, touching people's lives and giving people hope by helping them find their own collective power. I'm always learning as I do this, and that's extremely satisfying in its own right. So, know yourself. This can be a great ride, but the demands of building a highly trafficked site are great. Do what's best for you, because if you have a passion for promoting progressive change in America, we need you for the long haul. Don't burn yourself out.
I hope people accept this post in the spirit in which it's intended. These are just some thoughts meant to be helpful to anyone who wants to build a successful online community or power base. I'd like nothing better than to see more progressive online communities emerge, especially those that can give voice to the needs and concerns of traditionally marginalized people. No site can be all things to all people, and that's a good thing, though we can all work to collaborate and support each other when we share common values. This post is one such attempt by us here at this site.
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Madness, madness, madness.
Pach for US House!
Spurious: heh.
Get this Democrats. It’s game time.
Ed*ard Teller @ 2
LOL!
“Skeletons” does not even begin to capture the counterargument. . .
#8 - Seek to expand your knowledge of issues that are important but about which you understand little.
There’s a big difference between when somebody in a discussion group references an article written elsewhere and when new information seems to be distilled during a post’s comments by the sharing of new knowledge. I keep hoping consensus building at a blog like this will be the kind of place where maybe some rational solutions to intractable problems like Palestine/Israel finally make positive headway.
Pachacutec @ 2
All-purpose! Re Tip #1, this creates addiction–as has been amply demonstrated on this site.
Pachacutec @ 4
That used to be mine, but I’ve outlived most of the people who would have brought them out of the closet.
The “Mainstream” is trying to Catch the Blog Wave.
Rather ham-fistedly I must say. Here’s an example from the L.A. Times, involving an op-ed I wrote for that paper that you’ve doubtless heard of.
Pachacutec @ 5
But Pach, that was centuries ago with the sacrifice stuff…..
uh…..right?
Yes, and your attending to these salty bits is what keeps us coming back!! Keep up the good work!!
Hello Pach…
Cool post on a way cool site. Very nice of you to share.
Pach! so this is what you’ve been up to. nice work.
Cassie and her friends are finding some trouble with #1 since they are all involved with end-of-semester exams and papers. Their new content has slowed to a trickle, but I think they have the other two covered well.
haha. Strunk and White. required reading.
Non-wealthy women. Wealthy women: Republicans are not your friends. Vote Democratic.
Please forgive the OT:
How did Abu do at the hearing today? Did the dems finally ask any pertinent questions?
hmmm seems to be the missing post time…ah technology. BTW You guys are great atkeeping it civil. You make it look seemless and that adds a great deal to the expirience of blogging here. I choose to not engage with the namecallers/hate mongers and love that they are so rarely here
TiredFed @ 15
Especially when 2 of your bloggers are in middle school and only one of 11 is a HS graduate.
Re Tip #3, I sure hate being a ‘consumer’ to whom a ‘brand’ is targeted. Is it all about marketing? Most newcomers to this blog seem to express a sense of relief that they’ve found this vein of smart, articulate, like-mind people.
Good afternoon Pach!
I must say. You always arrive in style.
Lines of adoring greeters & the whole train.
And just in time.
Who could possibly keep going with a pity-party now?!
Game ON!
spurious @ 20
YES!!!! (Friendly was nice too.)
Pach, great article. I’m going to save it for future reference. Well done!
Pach, this was just beautifully written.
I especially like that you did not discount the small, non-content-specific, less travelled blogs, but gave them credit for being what they are.
Not everyone is up to being the NYT of Blogs, and many don’t want to be - we are, however, quite impressed by, and grateful to those of you who choose to subject yourselves to this kind of enterprise. Thank you.
TexBetsy @ 19
excellent!
btw, I think the “branding” has already been accomplished naturally. Now, that wasn’t so hard, was it?! *g*
I know that posting often enough is the problem I had with blogging. Giving someone else the keys would have helped, but I didn’t have enough people sticking around long enough and writing substantive comments that justified it either.
I had the blog buddies thing pretty much down; I was part of that crazy Thers/Eli/NTodd crowd over at the Blue Satan’s crib. In fact, Theri was the one who encouraged me to blog. Still, I was terribly niche. Some pop culture refs, some bitchy feminist rants, some political analysis. Oh, and lots of sex stuff. Not many blogs out there had weekly sex toy blogging and hunk of the week blogging (including a real guys hunk of the week competition–probably my most popular feature). I was happy to fill that little niche!
Problem was, I spent a lot of time filtering out the spam/troll crap. It got old. Mostly, though, I just burned out.
gotta go pups. have fun!
LJ/Aquaria @ 26
You need an aunt with time on her hands to check the comments for moderation 3-4x a day while you work, go to school, sleep, etc.
Log Cabin Republicans: The GOP is not your friend. Please vote, volunteer and contribute to the Democratic Party. We need you. We hear your concerns. And we will act.
Gore/Edwards in ‘08.
FDL has certainly found a productive niche - you’ve got the right to share your lessons learned, I’d say. One large, newer, and commerical-laden blog has decidedly lost its way of late, I’d say, but FDL seems to keep improving.
On the ‘expand our knowledge’ front, while the House prepares to vote on whether or not to get out of the oil war in Iraq, see the links below for vital information that has been withheld from the public by the media and by the Congress (not to mention by the administration):
The “in the midst of a civil war in Iraq” language is actually a con - a red herring Congress is using to obscure the unreported truth that the struggle is in fact between Iraqi nationalists made up of cooperating and united Sunni, Shia, and Kurds who are trying through their Parliament, without any assistance from America or Britain, to save a united Iraq and Iraqi oil, and those corrupt Iraqis America is propping up whose goal, in line with America and Britain, is a weak national government and, especially, to separate Iraq’s black gold assets from its people.
Those outside Iraq who want to steal that gigantic pool of Iraqi oil, are in fact helping to foment civil war by favoring a three-way split in Iraq between Sunni, Shia and Kurds using puppet leaders like Maliki, and end-running the Iraqi Parliament. Talk about the opposite of democracy, and the definition of war crimes. And our United States Congress seems to think this is just hunky-dory - at least to the extent that they can’t be bothered to tell us that this is what we are waiting for before we pull back to our permanent bases. [Same reason Tony Blair is trying to hang on until July in Britain, perhaps, and Wolfowitz (and his World Bank-imposed conditions for Iraqi oil) needs to remain in office just a little longer.]
“Civil war” is code, in other words, for the “oil war” that is actually raging in Iraq today. And America through its military has most decidedly taken a side in that oil war, unbeknownst to the American people. We have sided with those corrupt Iraqis prepared to sell out their people by giving control over Iraq’s enormously-valuable natural resource (its “sea of oil”) to global oil corporations for the next 30 years.
Members of Congress: Tell us the truth about the reality of the oil war in Iraq. Your complicity in obscuring the truth by blaming Iraqis for their vital resistance to our colonial grab for their oil fields is a sham and a fraud that you are helping to perpetrate on the American people. Weren’t the lies that led us into this disaster enough?
The slowly-emerging truth:
Http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/51624
Http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/51657
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/51572/
Brief OT question for firepups? Does anyone have a link to the text of the end the war bill on the House floor? If so please share a link. ty
Oklahoma kiddo @ 16
Since i started voting at 18 OKiddo. It’s now 12 years later. I’ve just gotten rowdier in my disagreements than i used to be. But still a liberal girl.
spurious @ 20
Same here. I’m a newbie who showed up for the Libby stuff, so that was my first impression. It didn’t dawn on me that this was a “woman’s issues” site per se. I guess that is just cuz there’s so much corruption to clean up??? (which affects both men and women…) Grab yer swiffers!
Uh oh, I think I can taste my toes again. my two cents FWIW.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 4
Try to cheer up, OK. Things are much better than they were at Mission Accomplished time, if you can look at it that way. I know it’s frustrating as hell, but we’re moving in the right direction (dang, I never thought I’d use that slogan!)
If you don’t like “brand,” how about substituting “community culture?”
I am a private sector consultant, after all, so that language does not clash for me, but we do have a culture here, a community, and we try to protect and nurture it.
Does that help?
For the record, my two hunks of the week winners were NTodd and Rorschach.
TexBetsy @ 14
Howdy, TB!
Wow, pow wow is on it again..)
Great Post Pach!
I would add to the “make friends” section: link to people relentlessly. Bloggers notice and love links regardless of whether they drive a ton of traffic or not.
Second, I would encourage any blogger interested in joining an inclusive discussion/community group for progressive bloggers to email me to join Blogs United. There’s about 150 us now and we mostly discuss the nuts and bolts of running a progressive blog.
This is an open, non-secret group that has its roots in the local and regional bloggers who turned the tide in 2006.
What I need to sign you up: Your name, URL, one sentence description of your blog, your city, state and Congressional district.
Email: kidoaklandactivism@comcast.net
Mandrake @ 34
I’m not so sure. I mean, we’re better off than when the thugs controlled Congress……but it upsets me that day after day goes by, the bastards are still in power, and all the bad stuff is still going on.
Mandrake @ 34
That’s OK Mandrake - at least you didn’t say “move America forward”. bleech!
spurious @ 20
FWIW, I disagree with Pach on #3, or at least would seek to clarify: You build an audience by being a uniquely valuable source of information/opinion on a topic of interest. FDL wasn’t built around Jane having a “strong woman’s voice” with a progressive point of view; it was built on being the go-to site for people interested in Plame. Then, people stuck around because of Jane’s voice, plus Christy, Pach, TRex, etc.
Pach gets this right in describing how Glenn Greenwald established himself. Similarly, DKos was built around being the go-to site for following elections, Juan Cole as a source of unique info about Iraq, etc.
Mandrake @ 34
;0)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 16
Oklahoma kiddo @ 29
I’m sensing a theme. Would it be quicker if we just cut to who might consider the GOP their friends? Say, big oil, fundies, and Halliburton?
Everyone else, out of the pool!
make no bones about it
do-si-do @ 33
I never thought of this as a “women’s issues” site. I think of it as a site that has great political and journalistic writing that just so happens to have many talented, brilliant women as writers, as well as men.
I guess, for me, this is the anti-Oprah site. It’s so refreshing to hear intelligent women weighing in on things that really matter as opposed to “how much do I hate my body” kinda stuff.
Pachacutec @ 35
works for me! ;)
aliasofwestgate @ 32
You go liberal person! ;0)
Mutant Poodle @ 37
howdy MP
Pachacutec @ 5
My sister says, “Skeletons hell, I’ve got a whole damned grave yard in there…”
kid oakland:
Yes, linking to people does get noticed. We do look at who links to us via Technorati because we like to understand how people see what we’re doing, the laudatory and the critical. Accountability all around.
We also like to see when people pull a little further on a thread of thought we’ve tugged a bit, which might prompt us to follow up and link back to what someone else has done. That’s how this collective online mind works.
dakine01 @ 50
Pol Pot would envy the number of skeletons I’ve collected. [sigh]
Yes! I like that characterization. I was attracted here way back in fall ‘05, pre-Plame, by the intelligence and wit of the writing.
Swopa’s right: another element of this is to find a great story that’s undertold and tell it better than anyone else, with research, wit and insight. Glenn did that, and so did we, or I should say, Jane. The Plame story brought Christy in, then the rest.
Don’t mean to be a broken record, Eureka, but the more I think about this, the more deceived I feel and the more appalling it all seems from every angle.
TexBetsy @ 21
And civil. And not prone to the ad hominen attacks that drive one off many other blogs, or overpopulated by pornographic spammers.
Pow wow @ 30
I just about blew chunks while watching Newshour last night. Kids are dying and Bush is accusing Congress of playing political games. I have no words to describe this abomination of a president.
Mutant Poodle @ 44
Big Pharma. Big banking.
Swopa @ 42
Swopa, love ya man, but there’s a reason I didn’t hang out as much at Needlenose or TalkLeft in re: Plame.
It was Jane’s as well as Christy’s voices that resonated for me. They were direct and clear, they were familiar like sisters, they were very much in touch with their righteous anger. Damned hard to separate the unique qualities of their voices from their individual femininity.
pow wow @ 55
Just honored and thankful to be here with you! I have record collection if you need more :)
TexBetsy @ 19
Strunk & White is good. Reading blog posts of people you admire is good. Reading writers who are skilled is good. How do they do it? Not to copy them, but to understand, and see what tools might work for you.
Especially when you’re starting, go back and read what you’ve done. How could it be better/tighter/stronger? What worked/what didn’t, and why? In time, the things you see after you’ve left something behind for a spell appear to you as you go.
Blogging is some kind of hard work. I used to post odd items for a friend’s blog, and it was hours before I felt I had it nailed, both in content and style. And almost always, looking back, it could have been better.
In time, you find your voice. It may never be easy, but it can be a smoother ride…
Mandrake @ 46
“Anti-Oprah” site. Love it! ;)
Mutant Poodle @ 44
Your point is well understood. And I want to have open arms to those who have not in the past voted Democratic, to feel free and comfortable knowing my party welcomes them with open arms. :0)
LJ/Aquaria @ 52 says:
I think if you’ve lived and are semi-honest with yourself and others, it’s awful damned hard to get older WITHOUT accumulating more than a few skeletons. As an accumulator of a few myself, I know whereof I spake. ;})
Eureka Springs @ 31
HR 2237, from my rep (jim mcgovern)
Rayne @ 59
I’m sorry, you don’t fit in with my thesis. I am therefore forced to conclude that you don’t really exist. :)
Pachacutec, I would rather know how i could or how anyone could write for this blog. I work six days a week to make ends meet but occasionally i can come up with something worth reading. I am certain that many others here could do the same. The commentors here seem way above average and certainly seem to know what they are talking about. Why not just make this site so much better by including the general community in the ongoing writing? Please let me know if this is possible. If the answer is personal my email is xoites@gmail.com
Thanks.
ok gotta go, dogs, luv ya!
Love ya for your vigilance, your voice, and vision.
dosido
PS it was a hoot watching the debates with y’all.
ciao
spurious @ 56
For which we send many thanks to the mods!
Somewhat OT, but…speaking of winning friends and influencing people, it looks like Rudy’s campaign has scored a big strike against it in that endeavor:
Rudy Snubs Iowa Farm Couple
House roll call vote on Iraq, procedural vote on withdrawal
Pachacutec, this is such a cool post. THANKS! We need all the help we can get.
My question is — how can you get your bloggers to write more than one post per week?
Thank you, selise.
Thank you for this post Pach.
I too, will save it for reference.
Unfortunately, I am swamped at work right now.
I could not even keep up with the Abu lie fest.
I have a small blog and I find it hard to post very often. That is key.
I might have to kick myself in the seat and crack down.
I find it therapeutic, especially after being here most of the time. On my own blog I can open ‘er up and let fly.
I don’t like to blog wh*re, but if you want, click on my name for the link. Be prepared, it ain’t much.
*g*
I was attracted to TRex’s snark on late night at first. He takes no prisoners, and i started watching this blog just before the elections last year. But i’ve started to really watch the blog in the mornings for Christy, Jane and everyone else. It was one of those things that just clicked.
The insights here work for me. I admit, the snark is a big attraction. The flavor of it is more paltable here than at DKos or C&L. I still watch all three sites, but this is the place where i make voice known as a commenter.
oddmommy @ 40
But, the way I look at it, the wheels are coming off. Nothing like subpoena power.
I just hope that most Publicans will continue to act like a**holes about the war right up to ‘08 so they will be utterly discredited for years to come.
I am sorry all this is underlined but the mods will be proud of my first attempt to de-nest and I’m just getting the hang of it (I think . . .)
SnarKassandra @ 72
Simply create an endowment that pays all their bills. :)
xoites defends Constitution @ 77
We don’t have many bills. We are still in HS.
Mandrake @ 45
It’s not. Whatever it started out as, by now it’s evolved into an all-inclusive liberal political community.
Pachacutec @ 34
Yes, much better!
SnarKassandra @ 78
Then my advice is to stay there, never graduate. It does not get any easier anyway. ;)
Swopa @ 66
Yeah, that’s one of the points I’ve made about the periodic (quarterly?) question of “Where are the Women Bloggers?“
Until quite recently, we didn’t “exist” even though there were enough of us to have our own annual BlogHer convention.
Ahem.
Oh, Pach, I’d like to add my own favorite resource and go-to for blogging, for anybody thinking about taking it up or doing it better: See Dave Pollard at How to Save the World’s Blogs & Blogging.
Incredible wealth of content there. Truly excellent, from someone that companies would pay handsomely to provide this kind of material.
CD @ 70
Oh, and the four world Series rings the Yankees gave him are worth a bit more than the $50 NYC gift limit…
spurious @ 20
In this case then, the ‘brand’ is a blog with ’smart, articulate, like-mind people’, which you like, correct? People generally consume what they like, - making them ‘consumers’, right?
It’s just terminology.
Re: writing here. . .
Our writers here mostly come from this community, though many have their own blogs. Swopa had his own blog, but also guested here, and he comments here, so he fits that description.
Howie and Jane have known each other for a couple of decades, way before blogging, and Jane kinda got Howie into blogging.
Jane and Christy talked back and forth about Plame in diary comments, and Jane then invited Christy to front page here.
TRex, Siun and I were commenters here. Phoenix Woman and Eli were bloggers with their own sites who commented here a lot. Scarecrow was not a blogger but we plucked him out of the comments, just as many of us before had been plucked. Marcy was a “longtime” blogger at dailykos and then at The Next Hurrah, who joined us to cover Plame and who keeps dropping by. looseheadprop was a commenter here who pinch hits from time to time.
We’re pretty full up on writers now, and we even had some other folks helping out during the Libby Trial because the need for fast, fresh content was so highly accelerated. We’re very grateful to those folks for helping us get through, and they remain an email away when we need help.
The point is, there’s no formal application process, but we’re always scouting ahead of time for a potential need. We like to elevate from within.
You’re right, our comment community is a rich lode of talent, and we do make it a priority to scout and promote new talent and new voices for those occasions when opportunities arise.
SnarKassandra @ 72
To quote the late Al Capone, you can get a lot farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone.
To which I’d add (on a more serious note), what are your carrots & sticks? Does positioning on the home page relate to posting frequency? Or is it purely chronological?
Swopa @ 42
For me it was Jane’s unique grasp of the media, the Mighty Wurlitzer. Plame not so much, but that’s me ; )
Thanks, Pachacutec. i guess i will have to say something intelligent now and then. I will see what i can do.
Mandrake at 76: I’ve had that underlining attack me too!
Appreciate the optimism.
I heard a comedian on XM this morning doing a riff of Bush whining, toddler-like, how much bad sh*t do I gotta do before somebody NOTICES me?!
It’s tough, Snarkassandra, for people with full time work, or full time student, to focus on providing content for a blog 24/7. Very hard. I do just one or two posts per week myself these days because I have to run my business. . . and do the work!
It’s tough in any volunteer community, and a small percentage usually do most of the work. The challenge is to find the right people, and maybe for a youth site, you might need to carve up shifts and time slots across a larger writing pool. Maybe look beyond a given high school to a national netwrok? Could MySpace help?
If you have other questions and you want me to think about your specific situation more, email me.
Rayne @59: I never looked at it that way because as a Southern woman, you are just NOT supposed to get angry however, I have stayed pissed off since we invaded Iraq and am therefore considered a freak because I’m really supposed to be focusing on beautifying my condo, planting flowers and getting pedicures.
I would get so frustrated by the ignorance of the people around me (although some of them are FINALLY waking up) that I thought steam would come out of my ears sometimes.
That’s what I love about the FDL gals! They’re just as outraged as I am about the same things so I don’t feel so alone.
I personally reject the Oprah cult because it’s too ME, ME, ME oriented. I respect Oprah for her accomplishments incredible success in the face of incredible obstacles, but her agen