
(Mexican troops, most of whom were indigenous peoples, defeating the world's most powerful invading army at Puebla.)
Well, hello, Perritos del Fuego! I know, I know, you were expecting Pachacutec. But ya got me.
In honor of Cinco de Mayo, as I mentioned earlier today, here's some Latino-related news and information you probably won't see much of in the national media, which prefers to talk nonsense about Reagan and haircuts. Grab a habanero, the beverage of your choice, and an avocado from the cupboard (it's the magic invisible cupboard off to the left) and follow me!
-- A little background first: Cinco de Mayo in NOT the officially-celebrated Mexican Independence Day; that falls on September 16. What it is, is a day of resistance, in which David overcomes Goliath. Specifically, it's about how Mexican troops under the command of General Ignacio Zaragosa Seguin defeated Imperial French forces in the Battle of Puebla on May 5, 1862. The French would respond by redoubling their efforts to conquer Mexico (which Napoleon III wanted in part as a base of operations from which his allies, the slavery-upholding Confederate elites, could fight the Union in the Civil War), but the Battle of Puebla showed that the French Army -- the most powerful army in the world at the time -- could be beaten, and they were forced completely out of Mexico four years later, leaving behind only the doomed puppet ruler they'd installed, Maximillian -- who would be shot when the victorious forces of the Mexican Republic conquered the last pockets of conservative/foreign-led occupiers a year later. (Hmmmm. I wonder what modern parallels could be drawn from this? Vietnam? Iraq? Hmmmm?)
Here's a description of the circumstances surrounding the battle, which comes via The Unapologetic Mexican:
[After the war between the US and Mexico, in which Mexico was forced to cede much of its best territory,] President Benito Juárez inherited México's troubled political and financial situation, which included a bankrupt Mexican treasury. As a result of these problems, President Juárez issued a moratorium in 1861 halting payments on Mexican foreign debt. Much of this debt was owed to France. Shortly thereafter, France sent troops to México to secure payment of its debt. At the time, the French Army of Napoleon III was considered the premier army in the world. It had enjoyed recent victories throughout Europe and Asia. The French expected to march from the port city of Veracruz to Mexico City without encountering much resistance. President Juárez sent troops, under the command of General Ignacio Zaragosa, to Puebla to confront the French. The Mexican troops consisted almost entirely of indigenous soldiers, much like today. General Zaragosa's troops, outnumbered 4,700 to 5,200, were severely under-equipped. La Batalla de Puebla raged on for two hours, after which time the French were forced to retreat to Orizaba.
-- As noted above, a mighty and technologically-superior army of white European invaders was repelled by a smaller force of Indians fighting for their homeland. By contrast, a bunch of dingbats in Alabama, reeking with upper-class white privilege, formed a militia with the intent to do what the right-wing eliminationist crowd jokingly calls "'Can shooting" ("Mexicans, Africans, Puerto Ricans...."), and stockpiled a huge amount of ordnance with which to do it. These people were/are pretty well funded as these groups go: One of them, the aptly-named Michael Wayne Bobo, is the son of a well-to-do owner of a pest-control company.
-- The Unapologetic Mexican shows you some pictures and video of cops attacking peaceful protesters at the May Day pro-immigrant rally in LA. Funny how the national media, which had their own cameras, somehow missed in real time most of the happenings that the local folk managed to document. (Except, that is, when it was their own people getting beaten up by the cops.) Marisa Trevino of Latina Lista looks at this -- and the police beatings of persons acting to document the events -- in the context of a post on World Press Freedom Day. Brad Blog also has video of the police attacks. Once again, we have the poor and the not-so-powerful standing up to the rich and powerful.
-- Mexico, like so many other nations in the past few decades, was attacked by the privatization virus spread by entities such as the World Bank. And as with other nations, privatization translates locally as "screw the local people for the benefit of the world's elites, whilst cutting the local rulers in on the take so they'll do what the elites want them to do." But even here, with the full weight of the world's hyper-rich looking to get even richer (and using bought-off local elites to carry out their orders), privatization isn't happening without a fight. Charles over at my blog Mercury Rising describes the most recent battles.
-- And because we all need a little magical realism to go with the habaneros and avocados I had you all grab: Let's go shopping with Garcia Lorca.
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Not quite Zed
damn-both the zed gone & my snarky idea!
Phoenix Woman,
Doubles!
Well if I had to loose; it was to the best!!! As I said earlier, I thinks I should re-name my Zed a “lolo”.
A la victoria en la batalla de Puebla! Feliz Cinco de Mayo, cachorros y cachorras.
Steve @ 6
teeheehee☺
Ed*ard Teller @ 7
Gracias.
Feliz
y gracias PW
I love Mexico and Mexicans. And Mexican food, and music, and DANCE! Plus the language is so pretty.
Mexicans should not be living in poverty. Their country is too rich in natural resources and beauty and the warmth of the people.
I heard Maxiimmilliam stayed behind in Mexico to be captured when the French troops and his wife (who soon went crazy) left. When asked why he stayed behind he said that he would die a king of the Mexicans, now if only Bush had half the courage of that Man! Its obvious they both had only half a brain!
Happy Cinco de Mayo all.
tbsa @ 13
Likewise, and to everybody!
EPU’d from below for SnarKassandra:
SnarKassandra @ 201 asks:
Yes, but we often went about it in a not so great fashion, whether through the street protests, demonstrations or everything else. It was a different time, although not too dissimliar in many ways to today.
From the police riots in Chicago during the ‘68 Dem convention to the anti-war protests that shut down campuses, the killings at Kent and Jackson State, there was a true gulf between the older, WWII generation that had not yet grasped that the government could and would lie to us.
Evening all. Another fine post, PW.
Can the people from that rally sue the police?
There were several press conferences Friday held by lawyers representing people injured in the rally.
Hi PW! Cinco De Mayo, as ‘celebrated’ here, is a marketing event sponsored by Coors as a result of a Latino boycott of Coors beer for discriminatory hiring practices in 1960. At the same time, the nascent Chicano movement was looking for a way to create cultural pride. Coors jumped at the opportunity to get Latino beer-drinkers back, and came up with a megabux marketing plan for Cinco De Mayo.
Informative article here, but requires free registration. I’m glad I did.
Makes me glad I quit drinking.
re: Michael Wayne Bobo.
Why is it that the true nuts always have middle names firmly attached?
As I posted earlier today, Hispanics have a remarkable record of service to this country. Steve Gilliard pointed, out a while back, that the history of “Hispanic” soldiers in WWII has not been documented and now, with the high death rate of WWII vets, probably never will be. Hispanics are quite upset with PBS and Ken Burns because Hispanics are not a part of the upcoming WWII documentary. I read quite some time ago that Hispanics have the highest percentage of combat related awards. Excluding non-Euro-Americans from our history is not by accident or ignorance.
SnarKassandra @ 17
Yes. And they will.
It’s no accident that LA Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa cut short his trip to Mexico — this will have some very interesting ripples throughout CA democratic politics.
OMG…Maybe it’s time we take another look at buying Chinese product. First the pet food, and now medicine.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05.....on.html?hp
SnarKassandra @ 17
Yes. Whether the police prove particularly susceptible to such lawsuits is the thornier question. Remember, the PD has more money to burn on lawyers than the average Joe.
Cassie:
I left you an EPU’d one downstairs. I think you now have about six defintions of “triangulation” from which to choose.
Hooray, hooray, it’s the 5th of May
Outdoor screwing begins today!
SnarKassandra @ 17
Possibly but most likely will be a few months/years of investigations. The investigators will determine that the average cops were not at fault and did nothing wrong. Folks will scream cover-up. Higher ups will make profound statements. A couple of mid-level cop commanders will be re-assigned. Any lawsuits will result in a massive award against the city that will be over turned on appeal and everyone except those actually attacked will feel that all that can be done has been done.
Beautiful! Gracias, hermana! Feliz Cinco de Mayo!
kevoy11 @ 26
huh????
hi,
sorry to break the thread but this is the only place i know that might help.
this morning on Scott the-traiter Simon’s NPR saturday edition show he did an interview with this woman who is supposed to be Iranian and wrote a book about almost getting killed in prision but saved by a guard that feel in love with her and forced her to marry her in exchange for not getting killed. To me the whole thing smells like incubators in kuwait and the embassidors daughter’s story. It seems so contrived and false. here is the link to the story.
http://www.npr.org/templates/s.....Id=9984934
gawd i have grown to hate scott simon and his right leaning scrorrin sweetness - he is so much like the flat-minder thomas friedman……..
EvilDrPuma @ 24
Yes, but the PD doesn’t have nearly as much as the media folks who got caught up in this. LA’s city attorney has no doubt been spending a fair amount of time with the city treasurer, trying to sort out just how much he/she has to deal with when it comes to out-of-court settlements.
Loo Hoo @ 23
Let’s not forget who our banker is.
My Cinco di Mayo margarita has left me unfit for anything but bed.
I would like to see lolo do a post called “Fun with widgits” - but not tonight.
dakine01 @ 27
Rodney King won $3.8 Million in his civil suit against LAPD.
On the other hand, the officers who beat him were all acquitted of criminal charges.
dakine01 @ 15
And it was Democrats who fought any and all Civil Rights progress. It took a Lyndon Johnson who had the dirt on everyone and knew how to bust balls, to push Civil Rights and other social programs. Lyndon drove that wing of the Democratic party into the Republican party; good riddance and God bless Lyndon for doing it.
SnarKassandra @ 29
Guess you’ve got to be a hillbilly to get it. Something we used to say in high school back in the 70’s.
solai @ 31
Oh. You mean all those Treasury notes that the Chinese and Saudis have been buying that make us the largest debtor nation in the world? Those bankers? And how our economy is now run like it was the Brazilian economy of the ’60s?
I can’t find my fucking avocado!
SnarKassandra @ 29
It’s an old Texas saying..they say.
In old times Mexicans and most people praised their enemies bravery, and respected their skill in war. This act had the twin effect of making the decision to go to war a little harder to make. Plus the bigger, badder your enemy the better your victory. Today Bush’s Neocon’s deride their Iraqi enemies as weak and link them to the vile crimes of 9/11 which they did not commit. To a Neocon our enemies must be weak because they are not the same as us and OUR WAY is the BEST WAY.They promise easy victory and the plunder of Iraq’s oil wealth. They insult Arabs and Muslims as subhuman who we should “convert to Christanity” for like the Borg Neocons think safty is BEING THE SAME. To bad the Neocons never tried to learn about and understand their enemy because it was beneath them, to bad we listened to a bunch of Fools who didn’t know anything about the people THEY wanted US to fight.
Hello, everyone!
I wanted to make sure that I didn’t take anyone’s zed. :0)
nezua lim�n xolagrafik-jonez @ 28
Hey! It’s my fave unapologist! I love your site!
Did you all see that one of the injured in the L.A. demonstration was a Fox News Reporter. Hit with a baton, I believe.
Fox Noise is ignoring it. I’m just surprised that they’re not blaming one of the demonstrators.
Russell @ 37
Tommy’s got it. He hid it under the bed when you weren’t looking.
Phoenix Woman @ 43
WHo is Tommy?
nezua lim�n xolagrafik-jonez @ 28
Hola! Good to see you, Nezua!
Steve @ 34 says:
Actually it goes back to Truman integrating the Army and Strom Thurmond leaving to become a “Dixiecrat.” LBJ gave it the big push, and then Nixon jumped in with his “Southern Strategy” to pick-off all the George Wallace voters with his thinly veiled racism (Nixon’s that is - Wallace’s racism wasn’t thinly veiled although it was as much political expedience as it was true racism).
kevoy11 @ 35
I an originally from the middle East Coast, but I still carried an old gray blanket in the back of my VW Beetle.
solai @ 42
Lou Dobbs, in a fit of media solidarity, will no doubt do it for them.
you were expecting Pachacutec. But ya got me.
WHAT A TEAM we have here, love to PW too!
Steve @ 48
Hee-Hee - now you’re talkin’!
The whatever-you-want-to-call-it is going to be investigated. By the FBI. At the request of (most notably) Chief Bratton, who is very unhappy about it.
There are questions about the people who threw the rocks, etc at the police. (At least some people think they were agitators trying to start a riot.)
There are questions about why the police went to batons and rubber (foam) bullets so fast. (My guess is they panicked.)
There are questions about why a lot of on-duty police were pulled out of the area earlier. (I suspect it’s because the rest of the day had been quiet.)
There are questions about why the dispersal order was in English and from a helicopter. (Not the best procedure, in any case.)
From the Northeast. We didn’t have the jingle but all the guys wanted vans. Much more comfy than a Beetle.
Please consider this the don’t quote comments that already have quoted comments within comment.
I just peeked backstage and the looks on the faces of the mods is similar to that of the Queen’s face yesterday when she found out she was sitting next to Death Cheney.
Uh-oh . . . uppity pastors are not happy that Steny Hoyer couldn’t find time to talk to some of his constituents about immigration reform.
Russell @ 37
it’s outdoors . . .
solai @ 53
From the Midwest. You just wanted a boyfriend with a car, back in the day!
SnarKassandra @ 201
I do not recall…Actually I do. And it was a great time, and we mostly had a great time. But then, 300 guys a week were dying in Viet-Nam. Now it is only 30 brave soldiers dying every week for Iraq Oil.
Buenos Noches, Perritos. Feliz Cinco de Mayo. It is also the 11th anniversary of my quitting smoking (YEAH!). Que chingarismo es?
Tomorrow on Face the Nation: Newt Gingrich !
This is why you need to indict the crooks (and send them to jail). So that they will forever be out of the public eye.
dakine01 @ 46
Actually it goes back to Truman integrating the Army and Strom Thurmond leaving to become a “Dixiecrat.” LBJ gave it the big push, and then Nixon jumped in with his “Southern Strategy” to pick-off all the George Wallace voters with his thinly veiled racism (Nixon’s that is - Wallace’s racism wasn’t thinly veiled although it was as much political expedience as it was true racism).
True, which shows that the actions of people need to be judged in the context of their times. By todays standards both Truman and Johnson would be called racists because they used the “N” word a lot and for other reasons.
There is a story,(told by an African American who was at the meeting), that during Detroit Riots, Johnson ordered that the troops not have loaded weapons so that “no old N****r would get shot.
Frank33 @ 57
I’ve got good news and bad news.
Military deaths in Iraq might be down, relative to Vietnam, but the injuries are way, way up. The military medical corps has gotten better at keeping casualties from dying, but that means that the burden on the military medical system, the Veterans Administration, and other support systems is far beyond anything this nation has ever seen.
I forget which is the good news and which is the bad news.
Suzanne @54-
I was afraid that was coming, but I’m too much of a hillbilly to figure out how to comment correctly. Sorry . . . . .
solai @ 59
Why they give that slimy salamander a national platform is beyond me. Although I would love it if he actually ran.
kevoy11 at 8:46 - your comment was an absolutely correct and proper way to comment. Thanks :)
On ‘This Week’ will be John Edwards (hooray) and Tancredo. Now, there’s a study in contrasts. Do you think he’ll be asked if he believes in evolution?
I’ll be watching closely. If Edwards is grilled about his haircut/home/wealth and the nut-job Tancredo is given a pass, I’ll be furious. Again.
SnarKassandra @ 29
Um, certain restrictions apply….
Check with Aunt Betsy. . . . :-)
Bob in HI
Everytime I see Rocky Anderson, he’s kickin MUCH ass. Anyone know if he has any skeletons in the closet, or are we going to see him someday on a much larger stage? Here’s another clip where he shines, and schools Pawn Hannity in the process…
http://www.crooksandliars.com/.....peachment/
solai @ 66
Prepare to be furious (and throw things at the TV).
kevoy11 @ 50
Steve @ 48
kevoy11 @ 35
SnarKassandra @ 29
kevoy11 @ 26
Hooray, hooray, it’s the 5th of May
Outdoor screwing begins today!
huh????
Guess you’ve got to be a hillbilly to get it. Something we used to say in high school back in the 70’s.
I an originally from the middle East Coast, but I still carried an old gray blanket in the back of my VW Beetle.
Hee-Hee - now you’re talkin’!
In mid-winter, the front seats of the Beetle was do-able, but very awkward. I was once caught, by the Federal Park Police, in the same park that Vince Foster killed himself.
(MOD NOTE: I fixed the margin busting quoted comments this time)
Aunt Betsy is the normal one. (Be in love. Be an adult. Be safe.) My brother is the one who wants me to be a nun and not ever sleep with anyone until I am 80.
Phoenix Woman, thanks for this post. And the link to the supermarkets at night — lovely.
Steve @ 69 —- Better go get presents for the mods!
Suzanne @ 64
Steve @ 69, on the other hand . . .
SnarKassandra @ 71
Hard to do, but there are time when it seems like the best idea for all of us.;)
SnarKassandra @ 72
Yeah, Steve, quit quoting quoted quotes.
Flowers will do…
Russell @ 38
Check in all the dark cupboards.
Very interesting graphic comparing the two presidential debates. Note “border” . . fine print vs. boldface.
Russell @ 38
Me either. Although I did find my cuddling avocado.
Rut roh. Cranky mod alert.
I fixed the margin busting comment this time.
jayt @ 20
And too many of them have the middle or first name “Wayne”: John Wayne Gacy, Wayne Williams, Wayne Adam Ford…
Russell @ 38
I’m sure I have some old ones in my fridge… somewhere…
SnarKassandra @ 70
Good for Aunt Betsy!
As for your brother, tell him that after he becomes a monk and moves into the monestary, you’ll think about the convent. And tell him you heard it from a man of the cloth.
Russell @ 38
I can’t find my fucking avocado!
I saw the dog with it about an hour ago.
Peterr @ 62
There is a stress level in Combat-one year of Combat is considered a reasonable limit. These outrageous tours of duty for Iraq, have produced mental illness, and broken military families-unlike any American War, I think. Also, “some people” have suggested casualties have been considerably under reported. For instance, are non-citizen casualties reported?
Valley Girl @ 82
It’s that green hairy thing at the back.
Peterr @ 74
Sorry my bad!! Can I blame senility and the memories from the early 60’s?
Suzanne @ 65
Welcome, Kevoy 11!
bonkers @ 68
Most excellent!
Peterr @ 83
Ha ha ha! He sleeps at his girlfriend’s half the time!
DrDick @ 86
But that describes so many items…
Frank33 @ 85
Also casualties among “mercenaries”.
!Mujer de la Fenix!
Gracias para todos, esta noche y para tus comentarios antes.
!Viva La Revolucion contra los Bushcitos!
A little Late Night entertainment from Los Lonely Boys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....liars.com/
SnarKassandra @ 89
There are girls in the monestary?
[now don’t go quoting this comment again without snipping out the middle . . . don’t want the mods going Darth Cheney on us.]
Frank33 @ 85
This is very sad..but it’s part of republican family values.
“Deployed troops battle for child custody”
http://rawstory.com/showoutart.....nts_at_war
I
don’tthink avocados are an appropriate topic for this blog.With apologies for the drive-by,
some cultural food for thought.
http://www.mexica-movement.org/
Full-disclosure
According to these folks I am illegal.
My wife and daughter ar OK though.
Hopefully our family would be shown the compassion lacking in the debate today.
La Paz and good night.
Y un pocito mas de Carlos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btiO3kHfXc4
Santana: Samba Pa Ti & Oye Como Va
Sorry for the frivolous comment. I *have* been reading the comments above about causalities in Iraq. As part of the VietNam / Nixon generation, I never dreamed we would see worse. And we have. Sometimes it is too depressing to bear.
DrDick @ 99
poquito
SnarKassandra @ 102
Gracias! After a week of grading undergrad term papers my ability to spell has been terminally impaired.
giving computer back to my aunt. see y’all tomorrow. remember to check out the cute animals
First heard of Rocky Anderson when, as mayor of Salt Lake City, instead of welcoming Shrub when the PR Machine rolled through SLC, he led a protest outside the arena!
And just saw some other recent quotes:
“We think if impeachment were ever justified, this certainly is the time.“
“I think the Democratic Party, frankly, has been incredibly timid. And I think that there is a lot of culpability certainly with Congress and certainly with many of the Democrats in Congress.“
And why is this guy not one of our Prez choices right now? We need a “Draft Rocky” site. We’re Gonna Fly Now!
bonkers @ 68
I sent Rocky Anderson a hand-written thank you note. His speech was such a breath of fresh air!
DrDick @ 102
She gets her first Zed, then starts correcting the spelling of professors . . .
AZ Matt @ 93
Thanks very muchly. :-)
DrDick- the cheating students also got me down this week. Any of that plagiarism stuff to deal with?