
(African elephant photo via pochacco20.)
What sort of abysmal failure of a presidency do you have as an elected Republican when William F. Buckley, Jr., writing in the National Review, calls your tenure "grave, possibly beyond the point of rescue?" And then says this:
But beyond affirming executive supremacy in matters of war, what is George Bush going to do? It is simply untrue that we are making decisive progress in Iraq. The indicators rise and fall from day to day, week to week, month to month. In South Vietnam there was an organized enemy. There is clearly organization in the strikes by the terrorists against our forces and against the civil government in Iraq, but whereas in Vietnam we had Hanoi as the operative headquarters of the enemy, we have no equivalent of that in Iraq, and that is a matter of paralyzing importance. All those bombings, explosions, assassinations: we are driven to believe that they are, so to speak, spontaneous.When the Romans were challenged by Christianity, Rome fell. The generation of Christians moved by their faith overwhelmed the regimented reserves of the Roman state. It was four years ago that Mr. Cheney first observed that there was a real fear that each fallen terrorist leads to the materialization of another terrorist. What can a “surge,” of the kind we are now relying upon, do to cope with endemic disease? The parallel even comes to mind of the eventual collapse of Prohibition, because there wasn’t any way the government could neutralize the appetite for alcohol, or the resourcefulness of the freeman in acquiring it....
The general makes it a point to steer away from the political implications of the struggle, but this cannot be done in the wider arena. There are grounds for wondering whether the Republican party will survive this dilemma.
The rest of the so-called conservative pundit establishment (with the exception of Andrew Sullivan and a very astute reader), is choosing to simply ignore Buckley's column. As if a sort of plugging of the ears and a "la la la la la I can't hear you." will make the entire mess of a Bush Presidency, their lockstep, slavish support for it and all of the attendant accountability for the rubber stamping of every poorly-planned and executed failed decision disappear in a cloud of Republican party pixie dust.
How many times have we heard George Bush say that we are "making progress" in Iraq? Honestly, from the idiocy of the "Mission Accomplished" craptastic photo-op to the "bring it on!" challenge to insurgents and everything since then, I generally just shake my head at the fact that he and the rest of his political minions think that Americans are too stupid to see through their lies and con games. Their disrespect ticks me off, but it is emblematic of their inherent mistrust and disdain for anyone that isn't inside the loyal crony cadre.
But today, this just made me furious:
The number of terrorism incidents in Iraq -- and resulting deaths, injuries and kidnappings -- skyrocketed from 2005 to 2006, according to statistics released by U.S. counterterrorism officials yesterday.Of the 14,338 reported terrorist attacks worldwide last year, 45 percent took place in Iraq, and 65 percent of the global fatalities stemming from terrorism occurred in Iraq. In 2005, Iraq accounted for 30 percent of the worldwide terrorist attacks.
The figures, compiled by the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) and released with the annual State Department Country Reports on Terrorism, showed that the number of incidents in Iraq rose 91 percent, from 3,468 in 2005 to 6,630 in 2006....
Still, the report acknowledged, the invasion "has been used by terrorists as a rallying cry for radicalization and extremist activity that has contributed to instability in neighboring countries." The report also said that since the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in the fall of 2002, the country "remains threatened by Taliban insurgents and religious extremists," though "the majority of Afghans believe they are better off than under the Taliban." The number of terrorism incidents in Afghanistan rose 52 percent in 2006 compared with 2005, and the number of people killed, injured or kidnapped nearly doubled.
Is this what Republican progress looks like to George Bush and the Republicans who continue to enable him to plod along in the ditch into which he has driven our military and our nation, pouring money into a sinkhole with no end in sight? With rising American deaths again this month, and far greater Iraqi casualties as well? This blindered view of "success" no matter the facts is what has enabled George Bush to drive us all into the ditch -- and the fact that no one in his own party has stood up and said enough and taken his keys away is on their heads. It is no wonder that Buckley has begun to fear collapse of the GOP -- from within -- for there are no adults left in the Republican leadership, no one who will stand up and put the nation before their party.
And that ought to give pause for a lot of reflection. The Republican party is the party of failure, manipulation and lies. And America knows it. 2008 is fast approaching -- how do you think that's going to work come election night? No wonder Sean Hannity smells like fear.
UPDATE: Old Coastie spotted an interesting bit at The Washington Note. Steve Clemons passes along some thoughts from the Nelson Report that are worth reading. To wit:
Sometimes insider gossip seems to confirm what all us outsiders think we're seeing, so, for what it's worth. . .we're hearing that some big money players up from Texas recently paid a visit to their friend in the White House.The story goes that they got out exactly one question, and the rest of the meeting consisted of The President in an extended whine, a rant, actually, about no one understands him, the critics are all messed up, if only people would see what he's doing things would be OK. . .etc., etc.
This is called a "bunker mentality" and it's not attractive when a friend does it. When the friend is the President of the United States, it can be downright dangerous. Apparently the Texas friends were suitably appalled, hence the story now in circulation....
"You know, if Bush would stop his self-indulgent stubbornness for half a day, he could see plain as day that he has an opportunity to retain American control of the World Bank by easing Wolfie out. If he tries to keep Wolfie in that spot, American control could end.I really wonder whether his failure to distinguish between necessary toughness and catastrophically shoot-ourselves-(America)-in-our-foot pigheadedness results from biological anomaly. His inability to harvest experience, and so to think and form successful judgments, is just so inexplicable."
Priority numero uno has always been what George Bush wants and damn the consequences. The fact that "loyal Bushies" still do not understand that the man is a selfish prat surrounded by sycophantic enablers, yes men, and power-driven ends justifies the means political operatives, none of which have ever been good for the Republican party's long-term survival, never mattered to them when the money and the power ade was rolling in. The lack of long-term foresight is appalling enough -- but the willingness to overlook the lack of any core beliefs other than "my way or the highway" ought to give every thinking American pause before ever voting for another Republican.
Login Here
Share This
Spotlight
Zed?
Happy Mission Day!
zed?
dang!
This is creepy: Bush in the Bunker…
Bugs Bunny said it best:
“What a maroon.”
Even a blind squirrel finds a zed once in a while.
Christy!!!
Good to be back and reading your posts again. ;->
Amy Goodman interviewing Ray McGovern.
Adie at 8 — Was wondering where you were. Welcome back!
Too bad the blind Republicans can’t seem to find a policy that makes sense, even once in a while.
Yet anothe example: per today’s WaPo, the Bushies circular-filed a set of proposed regs that would probably have averted all of the student loan scandals.
Imagine my surprise.
I love the elephant with one ear . . .
I asked this downstairs right when a new thread came up and I would like to see an answer if anyone knows;
perris @ 116
The Republicans are finally coming to terms with what the rest of us knew in 2000. That Georgie-boy is an imbecile, with my apologies to honest imbeciles. The evidence was there in his life up to that point, but they were so hungry for the White House that it didn’t matter, and not factoring Karl Rove into the picture, they thought they could control him the way they controlled Reagan.
There are a lot of people at fault in this catastrophe, but the top candidates are the bonzes of the Republican Party who decided in January 1999 that George Bush was going to be their standard bearer. They made that decision without due diligence, and all of us are paying for it. It is my fervent hope that this destroys the Republican Party, and that the new Conservative Party that emerges from its ashes — and there will be one, just as there are Christian Democratic Parties in Europe after World War II — will be purged of the fascists who took over the Republican brand.
To name names: George Schultz, George Bush Sr. (who of all of us surely knew what his son is made of), James Baker. Secondary roles to Colin Powell and Alan Greenspan for not stopping obviously disastrous policies in their tracks when they had the capacity to do so.
Not pretty: ‘Mission Accomplished’ By The Numbers
From the Dunce’s “Mission Accomplished” speech on May 1, 2003, lest we forget:
How many times have we heard George Bush say that we are “making progress” in Iraq?
Reminds me of Holy Joe, somehow.
The lack of long-term foresight is appalling enough — but the willingness to overlook the lack of any core beliefs other than “my way or the highway” ought to give every thinking American pause before ever voting for another Republican.
I believe this predates Dubya…I’m thinking Gingrich and Limbaugh (and originally, Atwater). But it took Bush and Rove to take it to the next level, and combine it with the spectacular hubris and incompetence that brought us debacles on the scale of Iraq and Katrina.
perris,
issuing Comey a subpoena frees him from DOJ control and oversight of his testimony :)
perris at 13 — That was answered in the comments in the last thread a coupla time — the DoJ regs require that a subpoena be issued if Comey wanted to be able to testify freely. Otherwise, his testimony would have been subject to approval by the DoJ which has, fairly consistently, refused to voluntarily allow testimony during the Bush Administration. It was the proper move by the committee to circumvent DoJ-forced PR message control — it end runs their ability to gag Comey from testifying.
Great cartoon on the Boston Globe ed page today regarding “Mission Accomplished.” Bush standing in front of the banner, which over time has become tattered and all the letters have fallen off except “I LI ED.”
Oh, please.
Hi Christy. Thanks.
We were on a trip to Big Bend, then to southeast AZ, glorying in the beautiful wild country and wildlife (ahem, feathered variety mostly).
Highly therapeutic. I was wallowing in winter doldrums before - now, ready to roll, heh. ;->
Christy, Could they subpoena Fitz this way too? Wasn’t his appearance blocked by the DOJ?
EvilDrPuma @ 21
Oh, please, also
From the same Mission Accomplished speech on May 1, 2003 above:
gunga - left a response to your request in the last thread.
I dunno. I see the polls, and I am heartened by the Dems solidarity, However, I continue to wonder when I hear about death blows to the GOP, how many people on the conservative side are simply biding their time and have no plans to ever leave their comfortable home with the Elephants. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18386898/ It’s good to read Buckley has some sense, but how many Faux viewers will ever even hear of it let alone read it?
If Wass’s article is correcto, doesn’t
that mean that Sampson perjured himself?
For the party and its Preznit that detests the gummint as a matter of principle, who knew that governing stuff would be so hard?
As Junya puts it: “Ah thought ah just had to (pick one):”
1. Snap mah fingers like ah do to get another Rum and Coke.
2. Put mah good ol’ boys from Texass in place and they’d cover for me like they always did before.
3. Listen to that voice in mah head ’cause who else could it be but the Lord?
“And now, even Barney ain’t fetchin’ for me no more”.
Who knew?
OT: Does the Waas story on the Monica/Kyle memo delegating to them the hiring/firing for the White House with basically no DOJ oversight allow for effectively nixing Monica’s immunity agreement? I’m thinking this information is clearly not derived from Monica’s testimony, so it can be used against her in any future proceedings without having been “tainted” by immunized testimony. In particlar, perhaps they should take their time with Monica’s testimony and get all the facts out they can before she speaks.
The lack of long-term foresight is appalling enough — but the willingness to overlook the lack of any core beliefs other than “my way or the highway” ought to give every thinking American pause before ever voting for another Republican.
Word. As disappointing and spineless as democrats in office sometimes are, I don’t think I could ever bring myself to vote republican again after seeing how they’ve carried water for this administration (and I have a LOT of voting years left in me). They have proven that party loyalty means more to them then the health of the country.
Steve @ 24
It seems no history is safe from rewrite, eh?
We once again approach an era of uncertainty.
Chimpy and the Gimp are clearly under the microscope now….their world collapsing around them..
I am afraid that they are eying their stacks of dwindling poker chips and are about to double down for the last big hand.
Olmert in Israel is on his way out….If his departure brings in Bibi Netanyahu look for a regional conflagration….Netanyahu will launch a stike on Iranian nuclear facilities or will reopen the Hezbollah war which has been on prolonged recess and will surely look to draw in Syria…which will draw in Iran……Which will draw in the US.
Summertime and the lving is queasy.
-GSD
Happy Law Day . . .
In keeping with tradition, President Bush has issued a proclamation inviting Americans today to “celebrate the Constitution and the laws that protect our rights and liberties.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05.....mp;emc=rss
The mantra of Republicans, in general, is to blame others. They create the divide by insisting that you’re with us or against us, and then respond to missteps with “It’s all on you.”
Now, hitch that manic predisposition to blamelessness to a petulant, pig-headed frat boy, and you have the mess we’re in.
Attention big-money Texas players: That you’ve found the pig-head figurehead is late, but welcome. But, if you want to see the real disease, look in the mirror.
EvilDrPuma @ 21
How appallingly ignorant can one be? And here I thought Buckley could…read.
Buckley’s not a “true conservative”, anyway. Everybody knows that.
;->
Sonoma Rus @ 33
When is the ass-wiping ceremony?
-GSD
There’s a quote from Tenet’s new book, where he wryly observes the Bush team:
“They never realized that you can only rule with the consent of the governed.”
He was talking about ruling Iraq in this case, but I believe it applies just as well to their view of the American people. The Bushies simply don’t care what the majority of the country thinks or wants.
If these so called friends were patriotic Americans they would stage an intervention. It scares the hell out of me knowing that someone truly psychotic has his finger on the “Nukular” button.
This from the same a-hole that said the Constitution is just a piece of paper and signed a law suspending habeas corpus for anyone - including you and me - designated as an enemy combabant.
F*ck him.
Here is another part of the problem:
News Corp makes unsolicited bid for Dow Jones: CNBC
Concentration of the MSM in the hands of a few tycoons.
McGovern:
Tenet manipulator in chief - policy fixed around the policy - documentary evidence.
Slam dunk - he meant Potus, we can make a slam dunk case to influence the populace. Tenet admitting to a more heinous offence.
9/12 - Perle: Sadam Hussein’s brother in law, was son-in-law, who told us nukes destroyed. His testimony used to push for war and the testimony was given to Newsweek 2/24/03, MSM neglected it. Tenet knew that.
Tenet ought to fess up to being part of this “conspiracy”…
Warrentless eavesdropping originated with Cheney….darkside, torture, wiretapping, all matter of indignities caused by Cheney.
Tenet on torture: Anybody ever die in the interrogation program, no.
McGovern says, they say one thing over and over. Of course they torture. What does he take us for, fools? Not logical. McCain was right about not buying that lives were saved because of torture. Torture doesn’t work. Ticking bomb in timesquare never happens. Torture like rape or slavery, always wrong.
Mission Accomplished, war bill:
People like Durbin have to change their mindset, not subservient branch of government. Criticizes that Durbin - all enemies foreign and domestic. Should have defended constitution. They were in majority in Senate then. War has to stop, hope they have the guts.
Durbin: Sure he could have. Several years they say we can’t do this because we were in the minority. They have to step up to constitutional duties.
Veto: Dems need to go back to drawing board, impose stricter language. Levin has played into that. Why Levin? He gets more money from a*…c than anyone else. Like a neocon can’t see daylight between Israel and US policies. Very transparent, if Levin can’t see, then he hasn’t read GWashington’s farewell speech.
Bay State Librul @
28
Yup.
Call 202-456-1111 and tell Chimpy to sign the Iraq funding bill. Flood the phones and make his staff miserable.
So Buckley thinks that christianity caused the fall of the Roman Empire- a question everyone seems to have an opinion about.
The official end of Rome as the seat of power in the Roman Empire was when Constantine moved the capital to Constantinople and made christianity the state religion. From there the empire did just fine, thank you, for nearly a thousand years.
Neil @ 41
I forget to mention the President’s warrant less wiretapping program in violation of out 4th amendment rights.
perris @ 13
DOJ has to give him permission to testify. A subpoena is the best way around it.
poor ole’ bill. I like the quote about the romans and christians! a pathetic old man that is going back to fiction to compare to reality.
there is no roman record of the jesus character. but bill thinks that is what killed the beast?
funny, civilizations like rome fall because the weight distribution. useless public officials that do nothing are not a part of the food chain. Doug Adams figured out how to take care of that. Sad that we don’t see it daily on a grand scale?
good that he sees what everyone else saw so many years ago. great moments in hindsight
agreed, Christy.
and… then there’s the wannabe-ruling class of the MSM…
Below is a quote outta my notes from a recent visit to our southwest border area. Admittedly, it’s just my personal impression. Nevertheless, I’m pretty convinced LouDobbin aint got a clue, ahem, FWIW.
cbl @ 18
thanx cbl, that ’splains it
LS @ 43. Thanks for “live” blogging the McGovern interview on Democracy Now.
What is the rationale behind making A-*-P-A-C a word that triggers screening?
(edited by mod)
Republics are going to have a difficult time washing off the stain of the Bush years. Yet they continue to behave as if they will be unaffected. Their only chance to mitigate the damage is to now speak out against the Bush Administration. Considering what we now know and what we will no doubt soon learn, that should be an easy choice. For some unknown reason, however, the Republics fell compelled to put their party above all else.
Bionic @ 32
Buckley is just trying to establish his street cred with Victor Davis Hanson.
(nested quotes watch we are…mod)
EvilDrPuma @
21
Correct analogy, incorrect application.
WE are the Christians. Corporate-owned media is Rome, and Buckley as a functionary of that ancient city is in a state of denial.
Get to sacking, Christian soldiers.
We are now ready for impeachment, starting with Gonzo…
We were one whistle-stop away yesterday, but whoever gave Waas those documents deserves a
huge KUDO..
It is important that we push the issue of sycophantic yes-men and -women. It is easy to dump on people like Colin Powell, Condi Rice, and George Tenet, the people who supported Bush’s warmaking when presumably they knew better. Yet yes people are the only people Bush would ever appoint.
We expect true public servants to resign in protest over something like the insertion of the famous “16 words” in the State of the Union message. But why would Bush ever appoint anyone with the pride, integrity, and courage to resign under such circumstances?
It takes inner strength to quit and blow the whistle in a circumstance such as this. But if all your self esteem is tied up in a job in which you serve at the pleasure of another, you just can’t give it up. The people Bush appoints, are desperate for Bush’s approval and that of his wealthy contributors. But a first rate public servant is strong enough not to need the job too much.
Sunlight @ 57
No Profiles in Courage Award for Tenet
Steve @ 24
well, Buckley oughta know. He was there.
I believe the evidence McGovern has is tied to the “origin” of the Downing Street minutes. He referred to people who went to Europe to plan the war. It sounds to me like the Niger forgeries themselves were discussed in writing as the actual means fix the facts to fit the policy. It was the basis of the plan. That would explain why Waxman wants Condi. That would explain why Cheney went after Wilson. He describes it as the conspiracy. I think he has something concrete for sure in writing, and I think he’s speaking publicly about it because Waxman already has it.
O/T: Going back to yesterday’s thread on McGovern and the Niger forgeries. The following is from “Everything You Need to Know About Michael Ledeen” by Katherine Yurica, April 7, 2005, click
The leading authority on what is and isn’t known about this matter is eRiposte, who posts that stuff at TheLeftCoaster.com, and who has posted here a couple of times. Hint. Hint.
On the thread yesterday, someone asked who Ray McGovern is. Per TruthOut.org: “Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, the publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour. He was a CIA analyst for 27 years and is now on the Steering Group of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).” And per the Wikipedia, he was George H.W. Bush’s daily briefer for some period of time. He has written numerous excellent articles on the evils of the Bush-43 administration. He posts most of them at TomPaine.com, but TruthOut.org seems to repost and archive all of them.
Clusterfuck’s got the gooper congresscritters in a hell of a bind.
If they don’t support Clusterfuck and his war, they’ll be eaten alive in the gooper primaries- as goopers continue to support the idiot and his big ideas.
If, on the other hand, the goopers continue to support ol Clusterfuck- they’ll be eaten alive in the general election- where they will face the public- 60% of whom think the war sucks.
Kinda makes ya feel sorry fer them goopers don’t it?
LS @ 60
Please, please, please, please let it be…….
I guess when Norquist et al thought of drowning the government, they did not imagine that W would also drown the R party.
Remember that failed again resume of W that went around and around? Well, in addition to destroying the US, he has also destroyed the R party.
WWWWWWambulance.
tbsa @ 62
When the subpoena was being debated for Condi, they kept saying, why do you want her now, she’s already answered this stuff over and over you’re not going to get anything new. Waxman was very calm and vague and said because he wants to hear from her personally directly. He’s got the goods on this stuff without a doubt in my mind.
bg @ 64
If he has destroyed the Republics, perhaps that’s the real reason he feels that history will ultimately smile upon him.
Cheney: our own “Grey Excrescence”
Holy shamole…..even George Will is smelling the coffee:
Guess what else I think? I think Durbin is suddenly coming out and saying he’s sorry he couldn’t tell anybody what he knew at the time. Maybe he saw the same thing McGovern is referring to and now he’s trying to cover his ass. This all goes back to Downing Street.
Suppose for a moment that you are a gooper congresscritter. What’s yer plan fer getting re-elected. You are watching the war news- hoping that something will happen that at least LOOKS like progress- but there isn’t anything.
Your president is basically asking for a blank check with no accountability for results.
The voters hate the whole thing..
So what is your plan?
Most likely you give faint support for the “surge-o-rama” until August or so- and then start backtracking and finding some wisdom in timetables and benchmarks- and you try to roll into 2008 on the right side of Clusterfuck’s war- that is to say- against it.
Clusterfuck knows all of this- he’s got May, June, and July to change perceptions of his war.
He hasn’t been able to do it in four years- how much chance does he have in three months?
I’d say he’s fucked.
o/t
Adie,
“my jaguar” indeed - sounds like you had a visit with the Spoffords of Cave Creek ! - good god 20 years ago, they referred us to a local ’scout’ for owls and we saw the jaguar headed up a ridge
did you see Trogons, Flame Tanager ???
inquiring birdbrains want to know
Bionic @ 32
I know how you all feel, but Buckley still has currency in the GOP. This article is MANNA FROM HEAVEN for me personally. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had the NJ shoved down my throat…I’m going to roll it up and spank a few people with it now.
(please watch quote nesting — mod)
LS @ 69
Hey I just thought of something else. Did you see the artcle that Blair might resign in a matter of weeks? Could that be connected? They all come tumbling down.
Adie, it is really sad to see the little border towns so devastated by our idiocy. Years ago I took a ferry across the Rio Grande in Big Bend to Boquillas del Carmen, I believe it was, to have lunch. I’ve been told by friends in the area that the place is almost a ghost town, like you said. The only other way into the village from another village inside Mexico was/is a six hour jeep ride over the Sierra del Carmen mountains. What harm do these folks do us? And yet the drug runners get their mules across daily. So much so that all my friends who live out there carry pistols whenever they leave the house!
rwcole @ 62
lather, rinse, repeat. gotta get to 2/3s in the Senate to have any chance.
rwcole @ 69
That is what President self-elected Cheney wants everyone to think. He wants Bush to get impeached, then we would see the coup completed. He would then attack Iran, we’d have a terror attack over here, and he’d grab total power. That is the neocon agenda. They want to rule the world and they believe in using domination and force to achieve it. It is really that simple. But they will not prevail. Cheney must be impeached.
OT, but thought Christy might want to see this, if you haven’t already:
http://www.latimes.com/news/po.....;cset=true
Christy quotes an FOB from The Washington Note:
Some folks have years of experience in doing a job. Others have one year of experience repeated many times
Badwater @ 52
Yes, they probably feel like “hey, we recovered from Watergate in good form, just a hiccup in our plans.”
Unfortunately, the eroding 28 percenters don’t realize that you can’t manipulate to your OWN party and maintain loyalty. I’m sure there are a number of GOPers who wrote a credibility check to George who now regret it.
kdh22 @ 77
My initial thought was that the Republics should completely scrap ‘08 and concentrate on ‘12. Wishful thinking…
Lou Costello @ 15
If you skipped over this link, check it out.
Don’t forget the comments, as they are highly entertaining.
valletta @ 45
I just tried the number…it’s busy.
But, when I do get through, I’m going to suggest that if he vetoes the bill, those darn lefty-oldhippies will use it against him saying that HE’S the one who is not funding HIS/Our troops. Yup, that’s what I’m gonna say. AND
Rayne - I left a response to your question below.
LS @
69
The Niger forgeries predated the 7/23/02 Downing Street meeting by several months. And the revelation about the Niger forgeries predate those about the Downing Street Memos. But the conspiracy to sell the war has been a unified effort, and it all ties together.
Hillary said the other day in San Diego (to the CA state Demo meeting), “The first thing I will do as President is get us out of Iraq.”
So I guess she is thinking we’ll still be there in 2009.
There is NO WAY the war can go that long. NO WAY.
Mae @ 72
I think McGovern has friends in high places in Britain. They have whistleblowers too. I haven’t been watching the Brits lately, but it would be interesting to snoop around and see if there are any murmurings over there about the fixing the facts to the policy stuff lately.
rwcole @ 70
Republics may be screwed, but Bush really doesn’t care. He has a long history of screwing up businesses, so this isn’t new to him. Someone always bailed him out. He’s got his future mapped out anyway. He’s making plans to go be a full time brush rancher.
rwcole @
62
Uh, No, it does not.
LS @ 69
Oh, man. Did anyone else see the clip of Durbin admitting that he heard that some of the evidence was questionable, but couldn’t say anything because he was Sworn to secrecy. What? So, that little bit of Scouts’ Honor has bit him in his conscience. Ya think?
bg @ 84
When she finally owns up to her part in getting us into Iraq, maybe I’ll listen to what she has to say about getting out. This is just typical Hillary Clinton–always trying to play both sides of the street.
do-si-do @ 79
Bush has managed to make Nixon look not so bad.
Wigwam @ 82
True. But, like you say, the planning to sell the war pre-dated the Downing Street minutes, as did the Niger forgeries. At that point, they had what they needed and they told the Brits that the facts were fixed to fit the policy. It was already done, the minutes just reflected a particular discussion about it that when leaked, tipped off the public.
Wigwam @ 83
let us not forget that the very first Bush Cabinet meeting had attacking Iraq on the agenda. And that PNAC advocated such to President Clinton. All planned in advance.
Mission Accomplished!
They robbed us blind.
It was a carefully planned heist. Bush and his droogs forced their way in, created a distraction and held the door for as long as they could so they could clean out the safe and vandalize the place. Now the droogs want to take the loot and get out but Bush is never satisfied. Theft and vandalism isn’t enough. Nobody’s going to make him leave. He OWNS the damn place now. He is daring someone to step in and remove him. His droogs are panicking and revving the get away car. Bush just contnues to piss on the floor.
And he’ll just leave us with a hell of a mess to clean up, laughing all the way out of the bank.
Clusterfuck at least makes Nixon look competent by comparison- and Nixon was DRUNK most of the time!!