Login HereGlenn Greenwald has a very good post up today that recounts the travesy of the Jessica Lynch reporting done by Steno Sue Schmidt, the woman who also brought Whitewater to the front page of the Washington Post. It's unfathomable that she still has a job, but as Greenwald says, both she and the Post continue to defend the Lynch reporting to this day:
So The Washington Post thinks it did nothing seriously wrong here and, astonishingly, defends the behavior of "its sources" as admirable and honorable (just a little inaccurate due to that notorious "fog of war" that put imaginary bullet and stab wounds in Jessica Lynch as a result of a heroic and inspiring firefight that never happened).
And most of all, Schmidt and Loeb continue to protect the identity of their sources, and will until the day they die. The fact that their sources fed them lies in order to manipulate American public opinion about the war is irrelevant to them. Over and over and over, our most influential American media outlets publish false stories based on government "sources" who purposely lie to them, and they never report on the real story -- who are the government sources lying to the American public while hiding behind shields of anonymity granted to them, and maintained by, our nation's "journalists"?
Most of our nation's journalists do not report on government conduct. They participate in it actively and consciously as government spokesmen. Judy Miller is the symbol of our political press, not its aberration.
If the Washington Post had a real ombudsman, it would probably be appropriate to contact them and ask them how, if their reporters continue to protect sources who lie to them so egregiously, they plan to keep from being used as a passel of tools to churn out lies to their readership? Sadly, as Teddy noted the other day, the Post has no such ombudsman. Maybe if the Post's media critic Howard Kurtz can stop drooling over Michelle Malkin and her litany of outright, unapologetic fabrications long enough to examine the problems with the reporting at his own paper, we might get some answers?
Yes, I know. All my dogs will have Nobel prizes before this happens.
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Jane!
Fitz!
Froomkin’s as close as the WaPo has to an inhouse critic.
While we’re waiting for everyone else to catch up, just want to congratulate you on having Ms. Clinton and John Kerry here.
Jane!
With your gift for getting to the heart of the matter, you really should have a lead role in Moyers’ look at our failed media.
Thanks for this, and for all you do!
Hey PUPS- this makes me so sick of the media- except this media!!
Weird I saw this post before briefly.
Gross and quite disgusting Bush dancing!!
Wow! I thought my zed from this morning was a goner!
And your dogs will have worked harder and actually done more real journalism to earn those awards, Jane.
Propaganda. That’s what this is, bought and paid for by tax dollars, disseminated via American corporate media.
A Nobel Peace Prize in Bisquet Chewing for Kobe!!!
Jane says:
With apologists like Dingbat Debbie and Hacktacular Howie, the WaPoo is not doing itself many favors these days. But I would bet your dogs get their Nobels before those two get Pulitzers.
That wind you feel is Kay Graham spinning in her grave at the speed of light.
Rayne- Propagenda, that’s what it really is
ABBEVILLE, S.C. (AP) — “A man has been sentenced to 25 years in prison after pleading guilty to having sex and impregnating a then 9-year-old girl.
William Edward Ronca, 26, was arrested last year after doctors discovered the girl was at least seven months pregnant.
Ronca pleaded guilty Tuesday and was sentenced to 25 years in prison. He will have to serve more than 21 years before he is eligible for parole. The judge gave him five years less than the maximum because he admitted to the crime and apologized to the girl’s family.
Ronca had been having sex with the girl for about a year, and told her not to tell anyone, according to arrest warrants”
He only had to wait a few years. Age of consent in South Carolina is 14- for girls- 16 for boys..
Hard ta figure- guess girls reach the age of reason a bit earlier.
Tap Duncan @ 11
KKKarl learned at the feet of his master, Joseph Goebbels.
Slighty OT but everything seems so tied together. It is all KKKarl’s fault! From The Hill, more on the Yang story:
I like that Jane…
Nobel best prizes…
For the life of me, I can’t understand why a reporter who has been lied to and spun six ways from Sunday by a “senior administration official” doesn’t cough up the name.
If I were the reporter in question, I’d be sending an email to my favorite SAO:
“Nice chat we had the other day. Too bad it was fiction, because that really makes me look bad to pass it off as fact.
“Now then, to rebuild my reputation, I’ve got a choice to make. I can either go with the story of how I was lied to, or I can go with the new story that you’re going to give me that’s even better. Of course, if I go with the latter story, I’d need something to confirm what you tell me — documents, emails, second sources.
“Any suggestions you’ve got on which story I should write? Oh, and my deadline is at 3PM.”
Sorry Beast prizes
dakine- I’ve been saying for years, i could swear I heard James Moore say in Bushs’ Brain that KKKarl had dual citizenship us/ germany. Do you know anything about this claim?
THIS is the single biggest issue between journalism as understood elsewhere and journalism as practiced within the beltway.
A SOURCE WHO LIES SHOULD BE BURNED.
it’s not that hard to understand. the lynch story was not a mere fog of war issue — this was an extensive lie, told to manipulate public opinion, and requiring the involvement of SEVERAL government employees, be they the military or civilian. if a source comes back and says, i got this bad information, you then ask WHO GAVE IT TO YOU? and follow it back. otherwise, you hang your source.
iirc, waxman said that steno sue’s incorrect version of events was published the day AFTER dana priest’s correct version of events.
it’s not like it was wrong and then corrected… sounds like it was reported correctly - and then changed.
did anyone else hear that?
what about the yang story.
petrr- “Uh, that’s not the way we operate” (from a commercial for the Nation)
1. Is there some sort of National Code of Ethics for reporters? Some sort of annual convention where they can sort thru this issue and make suggestions?
2. What are our colleges teaching journalism students about this particular ethics issue?
Ghostman
Jessica Lynch! The Pentagon flacks who created the myths about her should have to serve time.
Steno Sue, Ol’ 60 Grit, Victoria Toenails, Barbara Compost.
Was there a certain high school class that we should be looking into?
The fact that any of these woman are still harping their bullsh*t is an amazing feat.Toss in Judy Judy Judy and you have the makings of a right wing tabloid capable of entertaining, say, 30% of the women in this country.
This is similar to Matt Cooper’s appearance on The Daily Show a couple days ago where Cooper asserted repeatedly that he’d defend keeping Rove’s identity secret no matter what, even though Jon Stewart pointed out repeatedly that Rove used Cooper to peddle lies. It was a stunning display of cluelessness and stupidity.
There is something really broken with these people. They are either so stupid it’s a wonder they know how to write, or they’re all part of the propaganda machinery and intentionally mislead the public. Nothing can save the institution of professional journalism at this point, I’m afraid.
They would burn the source if it wasn’t Rove.
selise @ 20
I heard that too…
Tap Duncan @
18
Google Karl Rove dual citizenship and there are a number of references to US and Austrian.
Bill Moyers’ “Buying the War” tonight on PBS, 9:00 pm
“one of the most gripping and important pieces of broadcast journalism so far this year, but it’s as disheartening as it is compelling.” Tom Shales, Washington Post
ccmask @ 27
I doubt Rove had anything to do with either the Tillman or Lynch myth.
rwcole @ 21
Yang went from an AUSA investigating Rep. Jerry Lewis of California to being hired to work by the legal firm that is defending him.
dakine01 @ 29
Oh Austrian, like Ahhnold. Same creepy world view if you ask me, but I’m ignorant!!
Q And a last on something — is the President — there is a call for the President to fix this disparity problem. There’s word that Shoshana Johnson, shot in the ankle as a POW, she’s only getting 30 percent disability, whereas Jessica Lynch is getting 80 percent disability. And the President is being called upon to fix this disparity of — or get something moving. Have you heard anything about it?
MR. McCLELLAN: I don’t have any update. I think that you might want to address those questions to the Pentagon, they can probably better address those questions.
Q — there is a big disparity gap there. Is he — is there a concern here?
MR. McCLELLAN: Well, he has confidence that the military will address those matters.
whitehouse.gov
Well then what about the ying story?
oops- Sorry Jane, I just sent you 8 new puppies and a pregnant bitch. Terrible timing; I suppose now we’ll never get the answers.
rwcole @ 35
Ying worked for the firm representing Lewis but jumped ship to work as an AUSA! *g*
AZ Matt @ 14
That Miers woman is downright spooky.
I will never forget that surreal circus sideshow of Bush nominating her to the SCt…….she was “plenty bright” enough for that…..but not when it came to protecting his own ass after the Dem takeover of Congress. Nope, for that he needed a REAL lawyer…… and so, back to Texas you go, Harriet.
Ed*ard Teller @ 31
ET — Curiosity. Why? Any particular reason, or a hunch?
Just MHO, it may not have been Rove directly, but I sure wouldn’t be surprised if it were one of his gofers.
Boy RWCOLE I was gonna do that one and I waited too long, lol
It’s subpoenapalooza in Congress, but you’d never know it watching the teebee.
So a “reporter” like Steno Sue protecting her lying source doesn’t surprise me. Just another day in America, except for those pesky blogs. ;)
We have sooooooo much work to do to fix this country. And we will!
epu’d from last thread but just as relevant here:
I credit Jane for inspiring stiff spines to everyone near and within her sphere - most especially politicians great and small.
Clearly Jane & Christy have succeeded in making FDL a force to deal with in our beleagured national body politic from sea to shining sea.
Snoopy Happy Dance break to celebrate our heroines and this amazing community of other posters and commenters.
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Thanks, Jane! Good post.
I guess I’m not bothered about protecting sources–in fact I think it’s very important in order to keep information coming from people who could be retaliated against, e.g. whistleblowers, if their identity were revealed. It seems to me the real problem is when reporters are used to peddle government propaganda, as you point out. As I. F. Stone used to say, when it comes to the government, the working hypothesis should be that they are lying.
Today, Steno Sue co-wrote a WaPo article about the Hill staffer who’s pled guilty to accepting over $30,000 in bribes from Abramoff without ever using the secret word — REPUBLICAN. I can’t link from here, but you’ll find this discussion on Peter Baker’s chat this morning; Peter thinks readers aren’t confused about Abramoff being a GOP lobbyist.
Of course, most readers aren’t confused — unless the WaPo’s confusion has left them confused. The WaPo has been confused on Abramoff before….
snowbird42 @ 6
His handlers must have been beaming with pride.
let’s see, who was president on 9/11?
oh, that’s right: george bush, a republican
and who was mayor or nyc on 9/11?
why, yes, rudy giuliani, a repbulican
democrats will definitely keep us safer than they did
The poodles will need formal wear for the Nobel Prize ceremonies, that could be expensive. I sure their parents will be proud of them.
All my dogs will have Nobel prizes before this happens.
My four shih tzus want to express their congratulations to your dogs.
The important thing for me is to rid ourselves of the possibility of any Bush ever becoming president again. And to bring GWB and his people to account for war crimes.
AZ Matt @ 47
And the Peanut should attend in the black-tie variant of the dinosaur suit.
Nola Sue @ 39
It was pretty clear from the initial stories on both cases that the misinformation was coming from military sources. During “Shock and Awe” there were military units in Qatr and Kuwait looking for ways to put the best face on any developments in the opening moves of the War on Iraq. The Tillman myth appears to have been concocted inside Afghanistan itself, rather than back in DC.
I don’t reacall any information that has come out on any case which directly links Rove to misinformation coming out of DoD.
Ed*ard Teller @ 24
Wasn’t that the duty of the WHIG? We should make the WHIG our big bright shiny object. FITZ!
Ed*ard Teller @ 31
I don’t think Rove said “Oh, let’s lie about Pat Tillman” — he didn’t have to. Rove just kept asking the question “Who can help me sell this war?” and created a climate where those lower on the food chain knew that part of their job was to spin things the way the WH wanted them spun. Even at the expense of the truth.
OT: The NYT is reporting that Waxman’s committee is issuing a subpoena for Condi; also the Judiciary committee has voted immunity for Monica G. Wahooo!!
In Steno Sue’s defense, if she burns her source, then Administration insiders will stop peddling their bullshit to her. If that happens, she has to go out and try to do real journamalism. That’s tough work, and there’s no evidence that it’s within her skill-set. See the dilemma?
I like Rosie.
Thanks, ET — good points.
Well described by Peterr, as well — reminds me of the climate established by Rummy & Cheney that makes all the horrors of Abu Ghraib & Gitmo seem reasonable. To some.
What about the PR firms (Rendon group and the Lincoln group). Weren’t/aren’t they used to spread propoganda that shows the US in a favorable light? Who hired them? Who told them what assignments to focus on? I’d like to see their email communications.
LS @ 58
yes
Tap Duncan @
5
Yes! Jane deserves a Pulizer (after the dogs get their Nobel, of course, wouldn’t want them to be jealous :-) )
Haughty answer to Pakistan
By Haaretz Editorial
The launching of Qassam rockets at communities in southern Israel, the assassination of Palestinian operatives in the territories by Israel, and the declaration by Hamas’ military wing that “the lull has ended” amply demonstrate the fragility of the current quiet. Israel’s response can be anticipated: The Israel Defense Forces will certainly attack targets chosen in advance and continue to try to assassinate wanted men. These steps could quickly escalate into a large-scale campaign.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/851874.html
Peterr @ 53
Rummy did it.
Frank Probst @
55
Which would mean she’d have to work hard. And as we know from the Chimpenfuhrer, hard works is really hard to do. So she would have to really really really work hard doing all that hard work.
Bush Blames the Troops
Blame it on the military but make it look like you’re supporting the troops.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070507/scheer
another example of how the corporate media carries on the fine traditions of william randolph hearst and joe pulitizer
remember the Maine ???
thank God for the innertubes
LS @ 58
A few links here
fwiw, i’vPeterr @ 53
e always felt this had the look and feel of a genius idea by some middle-grade officer in the communications corps looking to win all sorts of in-house praise and promotions.
LS @ 58
IIRC, both Rendon and Lincoln were hired after Lynch’s accident. During the Vitnam War, most friendly fire incidents and village-level atrocities were covered up at the battalion level. That appears to be the case so far in this war. In the 1990-91 Gulf War, the incident of Barry McCaffrey’s division’s war crimes and their coverup ended up extending to the highest level of the US forces’ chain of command.
The longer a military myth is forced to live or military coverup has to be kept in place, the more people end up owning it, but in the USA, unless diplomatic issues come up - as in the case of the USS Liberty - they are generally controlled from within the military structure. There are exceptions, of course, and arguments on both sides of these coverup issues WITHIN the military have sometimes been incredibly intense.
These “reporters” don’t want to get it right. They want to live in the world of delusion, and are angry when somebody wants to break into the dream. The dream of a Dear Leader who is always right, and they don’t have to think about anything troubling. It makes them feel secure.
They will never bust anybody telling them lies, because, dang it, that’s the way it SHOULD be, so that’s what they write. REality-bases people are such spoil-sports!
…plus the fact that they are duped assh*les escapes them.
itwasntme @ 69
Right, except for some of them, like Sy Hersh. How to make him the goal for reporters, that’s the problem…
Muhammad Ali refused to join the military, saying he would not be part of the U.S. government’s efforts to kill people in Vietnam. Ali. A giant.
Badwater @ 45
that’s definitely must-see e-tv
Perception or reality? Which to choose.
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH My ‘Puter crapped out, but I found my way back to the Lake, AH, that’s better…
Reporters are so yearning to get invited to the best cocktail parties in the beltway that they will do about anything to get there, including but not limited to lying to the people. IMHO
Wait til you see the prez dancing with Africans in the Rose Garden
Raven how’s it goin? I see John Kerry remembered you this A.M.!!!
i was in wash last weekend, and lemme tell ya, the whole tizzy surrounding the white house correspondents’ dinner was just so….small-townish. really rank and cheap.
Laura Bush appeared on the Today Show this morning in a one-on-one interview with Ann Curry. Curry asked her about the situation in Iraq, to which Mrs. Bush responded, “No one suffers more than their president and I do.”
Like in all those fallen (in Iraq) GI funerals you and the prez go to?
This one goes up to Rumsfeld, right?
Doesn’t seem to be the best prize in the current sweepstakes, but there’s a lot to be said for the comprehensive approach.
We can all keep complaining about the journalists, and we should–eager to watch the Moyers piece tonight–but my guess is that their “principles” and tough reporting tactics will suddenly come roaring back to life in December and January 08/09. Just a crazy notion… and I must say that I’m legitimately baffled about why that is/will be the case.
Blitzed must be reading Rovie’s steno points too. Mentioned Condi…”subpoena fever?”
Word, Blitz…Congress has 6 years to catch up on oversight. Time’s a wastin’–lives a wastin’…
And just did a drive-by on HuffPo. The vidclip of Laura Bu-Bu suffering more than anybody sure raised a firestorm of response. I’d say What was she thinking, but obviously…NOT.
Repuke Desperation Alert meter now red-hot….
Listening to the Tillman testimony, I was struck by several of the questions that the Tillman family is pursuing. They questioned why there was a split of the troops prior to commencing that particular mission, and they stated that was historically unusual for the military to do that(I don’t know if that is true or not). Why were Tillman’s clothes burned. Why the delay in reporting the cause of death to the family? They referred to it as fratricide as did some questioners. To me, it sounded like they were insinuating the Tillman death was a deliberate hit because he was a celebrity and then used as distraction for the biggest story of the time, Abu Ghraib.
Also, I thought it odd somehow when Kevin Tillman was asked why he and his brother had decided to give up their lucrative jobs to enlist, and Kevin refused to comment. I’m not sure why that struck me as odd, but it did.
It just struck me that they felt they were somehow “set-up” and then used as a publicity stunt distraction when the time was ripe. Very puzzling hearing.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 79
That’s why Randi Rhodes calls her Lala- She lives in lalaland
oscars for the poodles too
A SOURCE WHO LIES SHOULD BE BURNED.
Why in the world isn’t this an understood part of the process? As in - “okay, I’ll keep your name out of the story - unless it turns out to be bullshit. ‘Cause if that happens, I’m gonna put your name up in lights. Understood? Good, then we got a deal.”
OK kiddo,
Amnesty International came out with a report yesterday, called Maze of Injustice The failure to protect Indigenous women from sexual violence in the USA. It is very critical of all levels of government in dealing with sexual assault investigations when a Native American or Alaska Native woman is the victim. Oklahoma, Alaska, and North and South Dakota are sharply criticized.
As an example, an Alaska Native woman in Anchorage, which already has the highest rape rates in the country, has 9.7 times more chance of being raped than a non-Native woman. And the percentage of successful prosecutions is abysmally low. But the saddest part of the story is that the statistics have remained unchanged over the past 20 years.
Tap Duncan @ 77
Well he didn’t really remember me. I went up to him at the 10th Anniversary of the Wall and introduced myself and I didn’t get the idea he was dying to talk to me. in his defense, the VVAW had a wide mix of folks and some of the really extreme brothers caused quite a riff. I went to an appearance of his in Atlanta and, because I was wearing my jungle fatigues, they seated me right behind him. One of his handlers said, “you can come here, you look like a vet”. I said, “I don’t LOOK like anything buster”.
raven @ 76
Just saw it on CNN with poor Laura loyally joining Shrub’s burlesque/dancing - truly the most embarrassing performance EVER by a leader and his wife in world history - followed by the most fawning CNN anchors laughing their heads off from Atlanta to Wall Street. I just hope our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan are spared this absurdity from the White House.
LS @ 82
Supposedly, his journal and correspondence with Noam Chomsky also disappeared.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/....._0425.html
Pelosi pressed to put impeachment back on table
Resolution to Impeach Bush & Cheney
WHEREAS, George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney have acted in a manner contrary to their trust as President and Vice President, subversive of constitutional government to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice, and to the manifest injury of the people of California and the United States of America, by intentionally disseminating and propagating knowingly false and fabricated “evidence” regarding the threat from Iraq in order to wage an illegal war against a sovereign nation in violation of Title 18 United States Code, Section 371; and
WHEREAS, George W. Bush further acted to strip American citizens of their constitutional rights in violation of the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution, by ordering the National Security Agency to conduct electronic surveillance of American civilians without seeking warrants from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review, duly constituted by Congress in 1978, in violation of Title 50 United States Code, Section 1805; and, by suspending or denying the rights guaranteed by the Writ of Habeas Corpus by ordering infinite detention without access to legal counsel, without charge and without the opportunity to appear before a civil judicial officer to challenge the detention, based solely on the discretionary designation by the President of a US citizen as an “enemy combatant,” all in subversion of law; and
WHEREAS, George W. Bush, in violation of the US Constitution Article I Section 1, overstepped his legal authority by the use of signing statements used to ignore or circumvent portions of over 750 Congressional statutes he brought into law, including an amendment to the 2006 Defense Appropriations bill outlawing the use of “cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment” of prisoners in custody of the United States , thereby conspiring with Richard B. Cheney to commit torture of prisoners in violation of the “Federal Torture Act” Title 18 United States Code, Section 113C, the UN Torture Convention and the Geneva Convention, which under Article VI of the Constitution are part of the “supreme Law of the Land”; therefore,
BE IT RESOLVED that George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney, by such conduct, warrant impeachment and trial, and removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the California Democratic Party commit to move the Legislature of the State of California to act under Section LIII, Section 603 of the Jefferson Manual and the Hinds Precedents, which allow impeachment to be set in motion “by charges transmitted from the legislature of a state”; and that the State Legislature, having acted through resolution to cause to be instituted in the Congress of the United States, in concert with their oath of office to defend the United States Constitution, proper proceedings for the investigation of the allegations against George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney, shall then transmit a copy of this resolution and its adoption by the Legislature to the Speaker of the House of Representatives, under the great seal of the State of California, marked with the word “Petition” at the top of the document and containing the authorizing signature of the Secretary of State; and that the Speaker of the House of Representatives, in conjunction with the Constitutional duty granted the office, shall route the petition to the House Judiciary Committee for consideration.
Submitted by D. Joye Swan, 42nd AD Delegate
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And to go back to the actual Tillman/Lynch scandal, and how it leads to Rumsfeld, and Waxman Waxman Waxman.
And the WaPo oversight articles which talks about hiring 200 investigators, etc., along with training seminars about how to study contracts and the rest.
The question is, are all of those “200″ working for the House and Waxman? Is a single one of them working for the Senate and “Govt Affairs” and sleeping/enabling holy Joe?
As Waxman–patient for 12 long years, having to put up with Burton’s junk for the first 6, and then having Condi and others completely ignore him for the next 6–becomes a bigger and bigger story, the fact that Lieberman is doing absolutely nothing should become a story in itself, especially here at the Lake. And especially when–you guys would all know this better than me–he campaigned on doing thorough oversight on Katrina boondoggles, didn’t he?
Ed*ard Teller @
31
Sorry for the long pause, had to do the Mom-Taxi thing…
Keep in mind that DoD issued several hundred millions in contracts to firms like Rendon Group, SyColeman, Lincoln Group and others for the purposes of “information management” — ostensibly to put the best face possible on the war to the Iraqi public. But we know that Rendon was used to manipulate public opinion in the U.S.; at what point did this stop? At what point did the other contract companies pick up the slack?
And from whom, exactly, did they take their orders on how to skew the perception of the war?
I seriously doubt they took their cues from Rummy…
The attitude of the “real” media was summed up by Tweety. “Pat Tillman is a hero. All of this is a distraction.” just move along. They are trying to make a single case of this instead of the custom and practice of the military to lie whenever it suits them.
The foul-mouthed Texan who is the WaPo’s ombudsman
has made it clear in the past:
No retractions. No apologies. No give a s**t.
Don’t let old Republican men dance. Ever.
First Wolfowitz (above). Now Bush. Please, G*d, make it stop!
I meant to work this into a post today and missed it somehow with all of the hearing watching this morning. Bill Moyers has a documentary on PBS this evening about Iraq and the role of journalists in selling the war to the public. Tom Shales has a review of it in the WaPo today that is painful to read. The documentary will be broadcast tonight at 9 pm ET on most PBS stations — thought folks would like a heads up.
“Nobody suffers more than (the president)and I do”.
I’d like to send them both a picture of the little boy with both arms blown off and make ‘em keep it on their desk.
Shrub always has such a clean desk.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 96
Christy — thank you for the reminder on the Moyers. Bits and pieces have been slipping out, and Moyer’s distinctive voice and ability to speak truth to power have come through loud and clear — unlike the disgraceful Charlie Rose interview with the Deciderer last night.
Ed*ard Teller @ 86
Thank-you for illuminating this wretched situation. Many folks are perhaps not aware that this is going on.
Christy, FYI, I sent you pictures on the reddhedd email of honey bees I photographed this morning.
Ed*ard Teller @ 89
I don’t suppose any of our public servants thought to ask Noam Chomsky if he has copies of both his correspondence to and from the late great Tillman?
When does Patreaus testify?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 96
Driving from job to job yesterday, I listened to Limbaugh’s substitute, O’Reilly and Hannity ALL mention Moyers in a negative light, linking him to that evil puppetmaster George Soros, again and again and again… I believe O’Reilly called Moyers “despicable” more than once.
Georgesimian @ 102
I think it’s just in closed session now.
If Shrub didn’t know the truth how could Steno Sue be expected to know anything
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/arti.....F6FC13.DTL
Maybe Kucinich could use some of Moyer’s footage as some of the evidence to impeach Bush as well as Cheney.
raven @ 87
I was being facetious Bro’ I apologize. From one Vet to another me(USMC 86-90) that wall is something else. I never cried like I did that day. I had cousins in country that didn’t make it back to reality. They came back, just not to planet earth. We lost them to their memories. So thanks bro. By the way, even those mini-walls make me lose it. I’ve caught a few around the country, very hard to keep it together. It will be the same for this war too I suspect, it already is. Hang Tough, Semper Fi, Tap