
(Peanut butter jar remnants photo via Dr. Stephen Dann.)
As the mother of a healthy, growing preschooler -- who also happens to be a bit of a picky eater, but loves peanut butter toast -- this is not only infuriating, it is downright terrifying:
The Food and Drug Administration has known for years about contamination problems at a Georgia peanut butter plant and on California spinach farms that led to disease outbreaks that killed three people, sickened hundreds, and forced one of the biggest product recalls in U.S. history, documents and interviews show.Overwhelmed by huge growth in the number of food processors and imports, however, the agency took only limited steps to address the problems and relied on producers to police themselves, according to agency documents.... (emphasis mine)
They knew -- KNEW! -- for years that there was a problem but relied on the companies to "police themselves"??!!?? Are they completely daft? (Don't answer that.)
As a mother, the thought that the FDA knew that my child, and every other peanut butter eating child in America, could potentially contract salmonella poisoning from a plant with a history of contamination issues but just kept right on allowing that company to manufacture the peanut butter without ensuring the safety of the product? Even after the contamination was discovered? That is beyond incompetent and negligent. Especially when you consider just how deadly salmonella can be to a small child. And if you consider how many kids with compromised immune systems could be added into the mix with a food substance that kids eat by the jar on a weekly basis? Or how many poor kids whose families can afford peanut butter as a staple for these kids, and who depend on this as a means of feeding the family several days a week for lunch and/or dinner? Uh. Mah. Gawd.
As a former prosecutor, the words that I'm looking for are alleged criminal negligence and/or manslaughter. This is beyond infuriating and, as a parent, I am now asking myself "what else?" Beyond tainted peanut butter and spinach, what else is getting into our food supply that the FDA knows is a problem but isn't bothering to tell the public about it? And, here's a question, if the FDA knew that there was a problem -- then did these manufacturing and processing facilities also know and just keep right on churning this tainted food into the grocery stores anyway?
Here's a clue: you know of a problem in the food supply that could kill my child, the answer is not to keep your mouth shut and hope that the problem magically disappears on its own because the corporation might just be run by some good citizen who will shut down production, not worry about immediate bottom line profits and do the right thing. Nuh uh. You shut down production immediately, you fix the problem and you do not endanger my child. Is that clear enough for you?
Speaking on behalf of infuriated mothers everywhere today, let me just say this: do this again, be this lax about our children's safety? You are getting more than a time out, mister.
Howie has much more on this and the danger to our pets from the same sort of negligent nonchalance. (H/T to Valley Girl for the link.)
PS -- Mess with my chocolate, and I will personally start kicking asses. Don't test me on this one. More from C&L.
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Christy!
HA! Zed
Peanut!
WOOT!
trifecta!?
(((((FDL))))
FITZ!
Choholics of the World, unite!
The only thing we have to lose is the cocoa butter!
That story is freaking astonishing.
Sorry to EPU, but I thought this was important:
Speaking of interesting graphics that make you go WOW, check this article & graphics out from ePluribusmedia.
Rove-ing emails: what else could go missing?
The people running the underground US House of Representatives “political” servers and the official GOP servers are sleeping in the very same bed. The graphics here make it very clear to see.
Brisingamen @ 7
Edited for spelling…
I just put this on the last thread, but what about the Mad Cow cover up!?
People fired for finding cows contaminated with Mad Cow. Beef regulators not allowing independent inspections of cows. It all stinks. It was all reported in the papers, but for some reason, nobody really cared and it just went away. They blamed it on Canada.
Makes you wonder how much they contribute to BushCo, now doesn’t it?
Bush’s America — with everyone with means policing themselves while the rest of us up and die. They call this neo-conservatism? Neo-feudalism is more like it.
Jeebus H Christ, the whole point of the FDA is to keep stuff like this from happening. When did it become acceptable for the foxes to guard the chickenhouses (or, to put it more bluntly, for companies to tell the FDA ‘Nothing to see here, just keep moving, please’)?
What will it take to get this mess straightened out: to get businesses out of ‘regulating’ themeselves and to get Congress and the rest of government to do proper non-partisan oversight?
Christy, I’m surprised there isn’t/wasn’t a class action suit on the peanut butter fiasco.
I don’t want my Chocolate Corrupted like everything else the Bushhie touch!!
R**se’s peanutbutter cups are in double danger.
As a life-long peanut butter junkie AND choco-holic, these a**-wipes are messing in the wrong areas. They are screwin’ around with the very basic fundamentals of the food chain here. I was a picky-eater as a kid (and still am to a large extent), but I could live on Ch*erios, chocolate, and peanut butter and mayo sandwiches (please do not turn your nose up at that one, just try a half sandwich sometime - very creamy but tasty - as the Frugal Gourmet said as he ate one on camera one day - don’t knock it if ya ain’t tried it).
Seriously, if they have known about these problems for years, couldn’t it be considered a criminal conspiracy between the companies and the gov’t? RICO? I realize it is bidness as usual for BushCo but still…
this had me hopping mad when I saw it early last evening -
my first response ? started googling Brackett - he is not a crony or graduate of Blessed Virgin School of Public Health - he appears to be a real scientist/chemist - yeah, an ideological idiot but a scientist
Brisingamen @ 9
For you SF bay chocoholics our all time favorite source of world class chocalates is the great old Michael Mischer Chocolates on Grand Avenue in Oakland - www.michaelmischerchocolates.com - sorry haven’t yet mastered the hidden linky magic.
Sad but not surprising. Everything they touch turns to shit.
Is it just me, or are others getting numb to the scandal/outrage du jour from this corrupt stinkbomb of an administraion?
I mean really, my small little mind can only hold so much, and now that the oversight “light” is on even I’m amazed at how many roaches are scurrying about.
The DOJ, EPA, FDA, GSA all up to their eyeteeth in political hackery if not outright scandal. The cleanup of all this will take years.
So now, all I have capacity for is anything to do with endgame. You know, locating the e-mails, committee hearings, resignations and the like. Anything else about these crooks goes into my “water is wet” category.
AZ Matt @ 17
And if BushCo, succeeds, I have no idea what I’m going to keep in the freezer for the quick choco snack. Right now, it’s a bowl filled with Reese’s minatures but those will be gone if these clowns get their way.
How long before the Administration blames Jimmy Carter?
My seven-year-old eats very little besides peanut butter (talk about picky eaters). He just decided he might possibly eat a raw spinach leaf … just as they pulled all the spinach off the shelves. “Sorry, honey, you can’t have spinach it might be contaminated.” How does one try to introduce new foods — and GREEN ones at that! — and not scare the child from veggies forever because they might make you sick?
Its absolutely infuriating.
maybe if we were all fetuses we could get some government protection
Christy, I think you left out a couple more words, like “Conspiracy to obstruct.” If folks knew, and deliberately refused to act, and other discovered this, and refused to call in other authorities . . . IANAL, but it smells like the legal definition of conspiracy to me.
Your words go for us mothers of the male variety, too. My little one is very adventurous in his eating — he loves calimari, for instance — but is also an absolute fanatic about getting his midday PBJ.
I don’t know what the federal guidelines on timeouts call for, but 20 years to life might be a place to start.
Thanks for picking this up CHristy. I wrote this on the end of the last thread and it is very on topic to your new discussion.
The gutting of the FDA has been going on for years. Agrabusiness has demanded it.
The Problem with food contamination isn’t just because of the gutting of the FDA and the breakdown of Government. The Clinton’s did little to address the issue too. The lack of regulation and the rise of powerful agribusiness firms over the last 40 years has made things completely untenable.
A case in point is meat packing and hamburger. (I get this info from my husband’s family who owned a meat packing plant back when their employess could send their kids to college, before Nafta turned them into sweat shops in order to keep up with the giants in the US and Mexico.) It use to be that the scraps were ground into hamburger at a local plant and sent to the local market. Now it is shipped to a vat at a central prosessing plant with all the other scraps from around the county. This is then processed into hamburger sent out to a lot of chains. One bad cow and you have a huge batch of tainted meat. And the number of inspectors has dropped to the point where they are hardly ever there to test it. That’s how a fast food hambuger becomes a game of Russian roulette. My husband banned us from fast food resaturants almost 10 years ago. He thought it would be an outbreak of TB not E Coli but his fears were justified.
Your best defense it to support local farmers.
OT: Sorry but this is too funny, and sorta goes with kids and peanut butter:
Shorter Dana Perino, speaking for Bush at the WH Presser re: Reid calling Bush “in a state of denial about ‘Progress’ in Iraq”
“I know you are, but what am I?”
please pardon me whilst I go totally off-topic for a moment:
As a life-long peanut butter junkie AND choco-holic, these a**-wipes are messing in the wrong areas.
Last Thursday, I saw a van go by the the worst business name ever - *Ash Wipers*.
They were chimney sweeps.
“Self-policing” is like “voluntary compliance”; to a corporation, it means something they pretend to agree to for the PR value and totally ignore in practice.
BushCo would have let the Manson family “self-police”, if they had formed a corporation and hired Repub lobbyists.
Christy said:
I hear this logic all the time from my sister. “Let the market decide - Corporations know that selling poison peanut butter will affect their bottom line, so they will do ‘everything in their power’ to police themselves.”
[CHS notes: Absolutely no references to violence against public officials. Period. Even if you are kidding.]
Hi Firepups. I’ve been working with some bloggers on the contaminated pet food issues.
Over at Pet Connection the self reported number of pets that have died from tainted food is over 4,000. That’s right, not 16 as the FDA keeps reporting as the only official number.
Because the FDA doesn’t have the resources to actual look at all the dead pets they keep reporting that number even after the state vet groups have officially reported many more.
The FDA also doesn’t have the power to force recalls on pet food. They are voluntary.
The FDA also hasn’t been compelling people to report WHO they sold the contaminated wheat, rice and corn gluten from China to.
There for companies (ChemNutra and Wilbur-Ellis) that sold the tainted gluten to companies didn’t have to reveal the names of the pet food companies that they sold that gluten too!
The brilliant Nikki from Howl911.com pointed out how crazy it is that companies and now countries won’t work harder and tell people faster the information they need regarding a safe food supply. She said can you imagine this news alert?
This is unconceivable. Yet, when it comes to our pets this is what we get.
Today it’s pet food. Tomorrow it WILL be people food.
Sen. Dick Durbin did a great job grilling the pet food industry execs. Here is a link to the video clips I posted. (Durbin interviews Pet Food Industry exec.)
Sen. Durbin also made the brilliant move of asking the pet owners what kind of real regulation that they should expect from the pet food industry. For once maybe the lobbyists won’t write the bill regulating themselves!
Follow the money - the plant was owned by ConAgra.
Melissa @ 24
Your little fellow might like Edamame and it is usually in the frozen food category either in shelled or whole pod. Great finger food and oh so nutritious for young and old.
Christy,
Peanuts are loaded with mold. I get headaches and after years of food diaries etc., I have had to eliminate so many foods. Thank God (or Glaxo) for Im*trex. Restaurants are off limits for me too. Most restaurants don’t even wash the vegetables even for salads and raw dishes. I am serious. As far as chocolate only 99% cacau for lolo. I sweeten it with agave or eat it unsweetened. I know I am a fanatic, no dairy, beef, refined, fake, pork, anything in a can, it has to be a real
isolated food. It is the only way I can control headaches and flares from the rare autoimmune disease that I have. It is a jungle out there and forget anything imported from a different country. Cloned beef and milk anyone”?
lolo (doing the zed dance)
My dog Jake just asked me if he would be put on the no fly list
if he sent his Iams dog sample(tainted food) packet to the FDA
as well as a case of Georgia peanut butter to GWB at the House of
Shame in DC. Told him to save his money and buy a plane ticket
to Spain. He is so fed up that he has stopped reading entrails.
All he says now is that it is time to Impeach the Bastards-run them
out of town, Disgust is his look these days.
Going to let him run alongside the tractor this morning. We are out
to rip some Earth for Spring planting. We all have to eat good food
and no longer take in the ………. from this government.
YOYO
OMG, Dana Perino ACTUALLY SAID the reason that Abu Gonzales said “I don’t recall” over 70 times, was because THE SAME QUESTIONS WERE ASKED OF HIM OVER AND OVER.”
Could someone check wiki for me and see if she graduated from Regent University. My eyes are swollen from laughing so hard i’m crying at her idiocy.
Georgesimian @ 11
I agree. I have a lot of concern about mad cow and how we’re screwing up the foodchain with contaminated and completely unnatural feed. I know someone who died mysteriously of CJD in the US under very unusual circumstances that may have been tied to the care of animals. I think many companies add a lot of fillers to pet feed that will come to haunt our health.
The government indifference to oversight and regulation of companies is going to hurt people. I’m not surprised that our government has become more lax and “trusting” of companies to self-regulate in the past six years.
OMG! Fuckety, fucking, fuck! Why does anything these fuckers do shock me. They really don’t give a flying fuck about anything but corporate welfare and a woman’s uterus.
Jacqrat @ 39
And she won’t be pressed on it. In the warm, sweet afterglow of the WHCA dinner, all is schmoozy and loverly. Cigarette anyone?
AZ Matt @ 15
make your own it’s fun and easy.
More Tests at Quarantined Hog Farm
This Administration, and their fellow travellers have ALWAYS been against the regulatory state. It is ALWAYS profits before people. A cursory glance at the industrial food industry will reveal increased speeding up of the processing - both in the farm sheds and on the killing floor, centralization of the process on large lots, and increased reliance on immrigrant labor. Costs are for socializing and profits are for privatizing. We the people get scant info which sadly is the latest food borne illness, be it salmonella, listeria, or e-coli. We have returned to the golden age of industry - the beginning of the 20th century, and this would be a good time to dust of your tattered copy of the Jungle a book the brought this to light and resulted in the creation of the FDA.
My dad was a butcher and meat cutter. In the mid-70’s this centralization began, and his wage earning ability declined (along with other union jobs). He used to receive whole or split carcasses. He was able to find the USDA stampt of approval as well as make the final determination about the quality of each animal, if he believed it was unfit for the intended purpose, it did not make it into the meat counter for purchase by the consumer. He and his coworkers made ground beef from that day’s trimmings. Now, ground beef, from animals of unknown origin or health are ground together (as many as tens of thousands) and then shipped in huge “chubs” to be parcelled out in individual portions for purchase.
How does this benefit the public?
newspaperbrat @
36
Thanks — I’ll try that. We tried to get him to eat sugar snap peas recently …. wouldn’t touch them. He’s also decided he’s a vegetarian, but not swayed by my argument that if he’s a vegetarian he actually has to eat vegetables occasionally.
This problem is endemic in the whole Republican philosophy: people are expendable, profits are not. I am afraid it also reveals the heart of darkness at the core of the core of the capitalist system. Any system which is grounded purely (or even primarily) in personal greed is inherently evil (and I do not use this word lightly). Free market capitalism as favored by the Republicans will invariably and inevitably produce these kinds of results (look at 19th and early 20th century industrial history). Classical liberalism has sought to curb the worst excesses and most flagrant abuses, but has always been fundamentally reactive. I am afraid that the liberal view that you fix the problem by tweak the system is basically flawed. These problems are inherent in the system and can never be eliminated without fundamentally altering the system
In the past few years, I’ve stopped eating American chocolate because it’s already damned awful. The native chocolate uses waaaaay too much sugar and low-quality ingredients.
Want to have a Hershey’s bar the way it tasted back in the old days (but with less sugar so that you can actually taste the chocolate)? Find a Japanese market, and look for anything chocolate with the Meiji label. I have yet to try one of their products that 1) I didn’t like and 2) wasn’t superior to an American equivalent. And that’s if America makes anything like it: Example: the Meiji Black Horn chocolate bars. On second thought, don’t try those. I love being one of the few who knows about these wonderful little treasures. More for me!
Jacqrat @
32
Tell your sister to remember her statements when the next folks die because the corp. decided it was cheaper to pay-off after the fact than to do it correctly from the beginning. BTW, I have the same type person in my wing-nutter brother.
I think the movie Class Action with Hackman is probably on point as well.
My grandfather used to say that the downfall of all of us would be grocery stores. He was a big believer in not eating anything he hadn’t raised himself.
Looks like he was right.
Should the FDA management be required to read The Octopus or The Jungle? There’s also Gilbert and Sullivan’s ’skim milk masquerades as cream’ and (I don’t know the source) ‘Some circumstantial evidence is very strong, such as finding a trout in the milk.’
There’s a really good reason for having outside regulation of businesses.
So it would be fair to say..
Republicans poison their own people and their pets.
and I was worried about bees.
lolo @ 37
I sypathize. My son is allergic (but not deathly) to dairy, wheat, egg, and corn. We rarely eat out, and practically anything in a box or package is off limits. Oh, and mango triggers my migraines. Ack!
musicsleuth @
13
No. This is Murder. Negligent homicide, in lawyer language.
Add this to the list to which Fuckwad the Killer is Responsible.
What’s that Leonard Cohen song about
“I’ve seen the future and it’s murder.” ? (That may not be the title). In it, Leonard mentions Charlie Manson.
George W. Bush is our Charlie Manson President. First Iraq, now this.
Three more words to add to this incredible post: school lunch program.
Screw with one kid — that’s a problem.
Screw with a school of kids — that’s a big problem.
Screw with dozens of schools of kids — that’s . . . unconscionable.
Are none of the FDA folks parents? Do none of them buy the food they oversee?
Should the FDA management be required to read The Octopus or The Jungle?
Read, are you kidding me these people do not read. They should be made to eat everything they believe is contaminated.
Good article in Sunday NYT magazine on food topic: You Are What You Grow, detailing how farm subsidies support least nutricious highest calory foods.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04.....f=magazine
DrDick @ 48
Hate to break it to you but the Clintons and the DLC are just as bad. They gave us NAFTA which has really wrecked havoc on many smaller businesses that took pride in their product: the meat packing business is a perfect example. Once upon a time a worker in a meat packing plant could afford a nice house and to send their kids to college. Now it is a sweat shop and their are no standards.
As for changing the system, Regulations and incentives to support small businesses changed the system very successfully once before and we can do it again. There is a huge and growing local foods campaign in this country. Become a part of it.
Eureka Springs @ 53
But we must continue to worry about bees! It’s just a bigger plate of worry, now.
it’s time to revisit these -
2004
HR339 - Personal Responsibility in Food Consumption Act - sponsored by Rick Keller
and it’s ugly little companion -
S1428 - Common Sense Consumption Act - sponsored by Mitch McConnell (natch)
we then called them the ‘cheeseburger bill’ as they were proposed as a means to limit obesity claims - but at the time many of us were worried the broad language of both was intended to protect Big Food (ADM, ConAgra) from liability/negligence claims period
am googling now to see if either passed - don’t think so, but best to check
P J Evans @ 14
When did it become acceptable? January 20, 2001.
1,495 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’GOEZ ON AND ON AND ..
Citizen Hardin Smith and the Firepup Patriots:
The continuing, daily scandals of the corruption of all the instruments and institutions designed to protect the people and their Constitution, lead us to only one political conclusion: corporations as entities for the consolidation of wealth and the execution of political power must be dismantled. The original language of most instruments of incorporation used to include specific periods of time for incorporation after which the authorization expired. The language also used to include a statement or two about the requirement of the corporate entity to exist for the benefit of the public. Now, since the legal anthropomorphising of corporations with all the rights of an individual in society, corporations exist imperpetuity and certainly have a life expectancy as well as power far beyond that of a human citizen.
It is time to organize the progressive movement around dismantling the existing corporate power structure. To this end, progressives and progressive candidates for office must also champion the idea that federal taxation is for the purpose of advancing the health, safety, and defense of the people. And this should include the redistribution of wealth and the defense against the concentration of wealth as a defense of the individual.
The dismantling of our entire system of protections of health, safety and social/economic opportunity didn’t begin in 2001, it began formally in 1981 and the ideology of corporate fascism swallowed the old Republican Party whole in 1984.
I’m serious, here folks, our Constitution has not yet been corrupted, but the power of the corporations especially as expressed and exercised by the Supreme Court are close to makin’ our sacred document a piece of old toilet paper. If we don’t get the anti-corporate message out and branded on the Democratic Party, then we don’t stand a chance in 2008 no matter who is elected. Mrs. Clinton, the DLC and the A*P*C aparachiks must be isolated from the Democratic Party and exposed for the corporate Quislings they are.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THIS FIGHT WON’T GO TO A DECISION!!!
dakine01 @ 50
After reading some of the comments on this thread, I immediately thought of Class Action too. A real insight to the mindset of Big Corps.
I also thought of the *D* (Big Pharma) part of FDA. Let’s not forget about how the current FDA hands out drug approvals in record time with very little long term knowledge of obvious and/or potential lethal side effects. Vioxx anyone?
I am surprised that many of you are surprised by this. The entire gov’mint is poisoned. I thought we were in agreement with that?!?
OfT:
fresh hell, in Mosul.
Melissa @ 46
Thanks — I’ll try that. We tried to get him to eat sugar snap peas recently …. wouldn’t touch them. He’s also decided he’s a vegetarian, but not swayed by my argument that if he’s a vegetarian he actually has to eat vegetables occasionally.
The edamame in shell may prove a perfect finger food for him - just pop the frozen pods in boiling water, let em drain and cool and show him how to shell them and pop the nutrious little pods in his mouth and he’ll not only feel calm he’ll beg for more. If you have a Trader Joe’s store where you live try theirs - excellent quality and oh so inexpensive. Japanese restaurants offer them as appetizers and what a pleasure for those of us with lingering childhood picky eaters syndrome they are heavenly - like green candy and in my case immediately calm anxiety.
I hear this logic all the time from my sister. “Let the market decide - Corporations know that selling poison peanut butter will affect their bottom line, so they will do ‘everything in their power’ to police themselves.”
I too believe in free markets, but you must have both 1) informed choice and 2) disciplining mechanisms. Two changes would allow “free markets” to operate. a) Let us sue the companies that injure us for damages. b) If internal corporate documents show that management knew of health problems, throw those responsible in jail — forever.
Repubs have a bias against BOTH regulations AND discipline mechanisms (e.g., lawsuits). So, unfortunately, WE reap what THEY sow!!
Bearpaw @ 31
Amen.
Re peanut butter, isn’t it fairly easy to make one’s own? Would this be safer for kids? (I know they probably prefer Skippy’s creaming style, but maybe if they helped to make it they might get hooked on the homemade stuff.) Just a thought.
not null @
26
707!
FDA - the group of clowns that allowed mercury in childhood vaccines. I remember back in the 70s when organic growers were told that they could not market ground peanuts (without added sugar and oil) as peanut butter. Freshly ground nut butters purchased at food co-ops (Mt. People’s Market, Christy)are healthier and better quality. Vegetables in season from local farmers markets are the only answer to a safer food supply. I realize that is not a solution for everyone, but it’s the best we can do until we can get these incompetents and criminals out of our government.
jayt @
30
worst name? you remembered it with one glance at a moving advertisement. it’s funny, to the point, hard to get better than that.
there is an actual grocery chain in Arkansas called “The Mad Butcher”. catchy a name but they had a radio jingle that went “Nobody, but nobody beats the Mad Butcher’s meat!”
There is going to be future disasters with all the Frakenfood that D*W and other corporations have been creating. These fake foods have never been tested. We are the test rats for gene splicing and who knows what else. I was poisoned by a neurotoxin. This has happened to me already. It ruined my life.
lolo
Here is the witness list for the House Energy & Commerce Committee hearing tomorrow on the FDA and food supply: Witness list
We’ve been practicing ‘don’t ask don’t tell’ with our food supply for years. Just try to find out what food we eat has growth hormone or genetically modified material in it.
Anyone can drastically reduce their chances of eating contaminated food. You have the power.
Buy locally produced food, and organic as much as possible. I and many of my friends have been able to for many years, even when times weren’t great financially. It’s all about priorities, and shouldn’t what you put in your body be at or near the top of the list, especially for people with growing children?
The military mission has long since been accomplished. The failure has been political. It has been policy. It has been presidential. - Harry Reid
Who says Reid is spineless? Give ‘em Hell, Harry !!!
update - so called cheeseburger bill did not pass Senate -
per a comment on an earlier thread - can’t help but wonder if this is what scares the bejeepers out of ‘em when it comes to President Edwards
Maybe I missed it, but one of the things I want to see is Democratic outrage about the peanut butter problem. It’s an issue that is naturally Democratic, resonates with parents, and would put Repubs on the defensive trying to defend the market structure that they created (which, by the way, is NOT a free market). We don’t even need more regulations, just COMPETENT enforcement of laws that have been on the books for 75 years or more.
So, have the Dems weighed in on this?
Part of a 2006 interview with Robert Brackett in Food Insight Newsletter:
Food Insight Newsltter
spurious @ 67
Pretty good idea! It’s fairly simple with a food processor or a blender.
OT- Swamped w/work & haven’t read prev. threads since early morning. Perhaps this has already been posted. Larry Johnson’s take on George Tenet’s upcoming book & 60 Minutes appearance update:
Give the Medal Back, George
(I am lousy at putting in links but…) you should also read the column by Peter Kovacs in todays opinion section of the Washington Post called “It’s Not Just Pet Food.”
Scary scary stuff and the writer was president of NutraSweet Kelco Co. from 1994 to 1997. He is a management consultant to many large food ingredient companies.
Damn, I’m scared to eat a Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup now.
From an embedded link at the FDA website:
My bold. No further comment.
I am surprised that many of you are surprised by this. The entire gov’mint is poisoned. I thought we were in agreement with that?!?
Them purple hearts just got poisoned as well.
Are the free market believers willing to die, have their family members die, or have their pets die so that unregulated companies will decide to clean up because it’s better for business?
P J Evans @
52
That’s Buttercup’s “Things are Seldom What They Seem” from H.M.S. Pinafore.
Oh calm down! Don’t you know that the Free Market will eventually take care of this? When the Free Market sees that the peanutbutter they buy for their children is killing their children, the Free Market will force the peanutbutter companies to clean up their act or the Free Market will refuse to buy peanutbutter. All it takes are a few hundred deaths. Much cheaper than the couple million taxpayer dollars it would take to inflict unnecessary regulations on the “few” companies involved. Especially once we pass tort reform to prevent the outrageous and unfair awards that crazed liberal juries hand out to the liars and malingerers that infest our “justice” system for being injured by peanutbutter. And besides, do you really think that the CEOs and Management would stand by and allow their product to harm their customers?
gag, retch.
And don’t count on the grocer to behave in an exemplary way either.
Saturday morning I woke up and clicked on the news.During the usual fluff pieces a special announcement piece came on a bout a beef patty recall affecting 100,000 lbs. of frozen beef patties in Cal., Ore, Wa, And Idaho. Several different name brands.
One hour later I walked into my local grocery and saw several examples of the same frozen patties.
The manager and a clerk were nearby and I asked them if that was the ones being recalled.
They said they had not heard back from an email they had sent the processor.
Waiting for an email about contaminated meat from an outfit probably closed for the weekend.
Oh yeah. Great call.
Mandrake @ 84
Hey, you got your salmonella in my vegetable fat substitute!
TeddySanFran @ 65
this came out yesterday. i think somebody posted it, or, maybe i read it on another blog ……
The US Senate just began today’s session and I’m oh so happy to note Senator James Webb is presiding - lucky egregious and her fellow Virginians. Maybe Boxer & Feinstein will learn how an authentic Democratic leader & U.S. Senator is supposed to lead by doing.
twolf1 @ 90
707!
Is there an age requirement to get this ref? ;-)
Bustednuckles—
When I was on the local board of health we used to check all the stores when there was a recalled item. Not every board takes this responsibility seriously.
Marie Roget @
81
Note to Dems and their allies:- first use Tenet to bring down Bush & Co., then tar and feather Tenet for not speaking out sooner. In all fairness to Tenet, when Clarke & O’Neill spoke up, they were summarily brushed aside by Congress.
mnlurker @ 82
Here is the linky:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01124.html
Anybody want to bet how much of this gets into the mainstream TeeVee news? The local papers?
In the now well-established tradition of short simple answers to complicated questions…
Nada.
Which is weird ’cause all we heard about for weeks was killer organic spinach. Funny that; if it’s organic it’ll make the news: “See? Organic, non-processed food is BAD FOR YOU, it might KILL YOU!”
But if it’s mainstream AgBiz, nah, why bother the viewer’s pretty little heads, right?
mnlurker -
More Than Pet Food - Peter Kovacs / WaPo
oh, and why are we not surprised # 7283
twolf1 @ 89
707!!
A question for those firepups in the know. I have heard that there are only about a dozen food inspectors that work for the FDA. I find that impossible to believe that the number could be that low, but I can’t find any info to either verify or refute that assertion. Does anybody know what the approximate number is and provide a reference. A dozen? For the whole country?
OT - sorry if posted before: Reid: Congress will endorse Iraq pullout
Petrocelli @ 95 says:
Except we have a “new world order” now if you will. The Congress that blew off Clarke & O’Neill was of the Republic persuasion; unlike the exterminators/light shiners of the new Congress.