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(Photo of angel statue giving a thumbs down via R80o.)
Alberto Gonzales did not have the best day yesterday, did he? In fact, from where I sat watching the entire hearing from start to finish, it was difficult, combative and nasty -- and that was just when the Republican Senators were asking questions.
Although, frankly, there has been a fairly long string of bad days of late. There was that letter from several prominant libertarian conservatives calling on him to resign because he is an incompetent political shill who doesn't uphold the Constitution. Ouch. There is the letter from a number of DoJ employees to Congress detailing how politicized even the college intern program has become in terms of hiring -- not based on merit, but based on political affilation and activity -- including detailing where to find all the evidence thereon. Double ouch. There is the rising number of questions about the gutting of the civil rights division at the DoJ, and the politicization of the cases that are prosecuted so that they are skewed toward suppressing minority and poor voters' rights.
Former US Attorneys and Department of Justice lawyers are speaking out -- and it isn't pretty. Patrick M. Collins had a scathing op-ed earlier in the week in the Chicago Tribune.
A DOJ process that exalts partisan political loyalty over independence and fairness is a fundamentally flawed one. Political blinders are critical to a prosecutor because, without them, important decisions about how cases are investigated and prosecuted can be hijacked by improper considerations with tangible (even tragic) consequences. Naturally, this is most critical in political corruption cases, the legitimacy of which hinges on the political independence of the prosecutive team's work.In corruption cases, the potential for partisan shenanigans may arise in two different ways, each of which disserves the interests of justice. First, partisan prosecutors might ignore credible allegations of corruption because they fear embarrassing their political party or patron. Second, partisan prosecutors might pursue flimsy allegations for political purposes....
We have heard as a defense of the summary dismissal of eight U.S. attorneys that all U.S. attorneys "serve at the pleasure of the president." And that, of course, is true. But they must never serve only to please the president. U.S. attorneys serve the people of the United States. (emphasis mine)
I bring this up because Sen. Whitehouse used this so effectively in yesterday's hearing during his questioning of the Attorney General. (Whitehouse, I have to say, was very impressive in terms of his personal command of the situation -- having so recently been a USAtty in Rhode Island.) Alberto Gonzales either did not get this crucial point -- or he was being deliberately obtuse throughout the day yesterday in an effort to refuse to acknowledge that this was the very sin that he and his political appointee minions have attempted to foist on the Department of Justice at the behest of some as-yet-not-publicly-identified-by-the-AG political opportunists at the White House and the DoJ.
While Alberto Gonzales bears substantial responsibility for allowing himself to be used as a political tool in his position at the DoJ, he was not the only person who was acting in this way -- and, thus, should not be the only person who faces consequences for this perversion of the justice system. The actions taken, and their ever-widening consequences, are as offensive as they are wrong to anyone who has ever tried to uphold the standards of integrity and justice in enforcing the rule of law that any decent prosecutor should adhere to in the performance of their duties.
And it was appallingly clear yesterday -- in very stark terms -- just how little the Attorney General of the United States either knew or cared to answer with regard to specifics. Repeating a mantra over and over again that he was responsible is merely stating the obvious. And anyone who has any commitment at all to the notions of justice and honesty and integrity ought to be appalled by his performance.
Dana Milbank has a sketch of the Committee proceedings that includes some color commentary on the AG's demeanor that really brings home just how squirmy and weaselly the non-answer tap dance was yesterday:
The hearing was billed as Gonzales's chance to explain the contradictions, omissions and falsehoods in his response to the firings. But instead of contrition, the attorney general treated the committee to a mixture of arrogance, combativeness and amnesia. Even his would-be defenders on the Republican side were appalled....For much of the very long day, the attorney general responded like a child caught in a lie. He shifted his feet under the table, balled his hands into fists and occasionally pointed at his questioners. He defended his actions: "The decision stands." He denied responsibility: "This was a process that was ongoing that I did not have transparency into." He blamed the victims: "Poor judgment . . . poor management." He blamed his subordinates: "When there are attacks against the department, you're attacking the career professionals."
Mostly, though, he retreated to memory loss. He was asked about the firing of the Arkansas U.S. attorney. "I have no recollection about that." The Nevada prosecutor? "I just don't recall the reason." The western Michigan U.S. attorney? "I don't recall."
You know what is most offensive? That whole "if you criticize our many disgusting failures, you are criticizing the USAttys" malarky. You want offensive -- how about asking yourself how the USAttys feel having their integrity called into question now because the political stooges at the DoJ and the WH didn't have the decency or the foresight to realize that a hack firing job like this would bring all of the Rove's shop politicization efforts to the fore? How about the fact that decent, hard-working USAttys were fired not because they lacked competence in their jobs, but because they didn't kiss the ass of Rove enough to keep him happy? How about the fact that getting along with the political toadies was more important that following the evidence and making honest and decent decisions based on the facts and not the ramifications of the case for the political winds down the road?
And yes, if you are wondering, I am well and truly disgusted by this whole, sorry smarmfest of a saga.
As is the NYtimes, apparently, whose blistering editorial on the subject is a must read this morning. I have rarely if ever seen that level of fury and disgust on an editorial page -- and rarely have I seen a performance which deserved it more than yesterday's abysmal "I don't recall" fiasco.
More here, here, here and here. And for a glimpse into the delusional, bunker PR mentality of the loyal Bushies, try here.
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zed?
I gnu I’d be EPU!
The reality-based world is SO seven years ago…
mornin’ Redd. mad props for all your hard work yesterday! that was amazing. thanks so much for all you do (and hugs to Jane wherever she may be today).
Mornin’ Christy! Just to give you a little zen place, my mom sent me this link to a live video feed of an osprey nest on Long Island. Something to give you moments of zen…
TiredFed at 4 — Thanks much. I’m afraid my brain is a little fried today, but it was soooo worth it. And I’m glad everyone got a chuckle out of my “Texas Toast” graphic. Still cracks me up. *g*
morning’
What is interesting are the questions that did not get asked. Nina Totenberg was wondering about that yesterday.
…and now, back on topic, my fave Milbank grafs may have been these:
Take Gonzales’s tally along with that of his former chief of staff, who uttered the phrase “I don’t remember” 122 times before the same committee three weeks ago, and the Justice Department might want to consider handing out Ginkgo biloba in the employee cafeteria.
Did he take some of TRex’s snark pills this morning?
I think Prince Hamlet(read Bush) is ready for his final swordfight.
We know how this drama will end, but I feel sorry for the custodians that will have to clean up the set…it is pretty well destroyed.
“First, partisan prosecutors might ignore credible allegations of corruption because they fear embarrassing their political party or patron. Second, partisan prosecutors might pursue flimsy allegations for political purposes…”
Might? heck, this is exactly what this admin wants. They fired anyone who didn’t follow along.
Didn’t either Shumer or Leahy nearly come out of his chair and strangle Gonzo over that one? One of ‘em did: said it was as full of shit as the “if you oppose the war you don’t support the troops [and/or are a traitor]”
Christy! Pups! Great post, CHS. I agree that one of the biggest fireworks moments of yesterday was the Durbin Gonzo exchange. I could not believe it when Gonzo said that the Committee’s investigation was impugning the repretation of the USA’s. WTF? I loved Durbin’s reply - you are making the same point as those who say if you question the Prez’s war policy you are against the troops. The problem is, too many R’s agree with that B.S.
BTW, morning Gonzo testimony is up on C-SPAN as this first video entry. It includes the press gaggle that Schumer did at the end. You must persist through the C-SPAN announcer’s first attempt to draw it to a close.
Mauimom at 11 — Leahy did, I believe. He did a great job yesterday trying to maintain some level of order in a tough situation, I thought. Very well done.
yellowdogD @
1
zed = what? It is supposed to represent the letter z in Great Britain, Australia, and New Zealand, according to two dictionaries I consulted.
I am so glad the senator (I forget which one, darn) shut down his “you’re insulting the troops” line. He didn’t use it again after that. I was shouting that at my monitor already, it was so great to hear it said there. You know that was part of his prep, how could they not see that going badly?
NYT had a great point in that article: he had no problem remembering complaints from politicians, but couldn’t remember anything about actual performance.
I’m reminded of Orson Scott Card’s classic essay “How Software Companies Die”:
Only now it’s our government dying, and it’s not accidental.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 14
Christy — said above, props for all you FDL’ers do in getting this out. It’s Friday dump day. Please get Peanut into the dinosaur costume to improve chances for Abu’s resignation by cob.
anyone else notice that Gonzales mispronounced Bud Cummins’ name? He stuck a “g” in it: Cummings. Kind of speaks to the loop he’s in.
I also think that if we were to go over Gonzo’s testimony I bet we could come up with THE definitive list of “weasel words”. I’m sure it would merit an entry in Wikipedia.
Morning Christy, thanks for the liveblog yesterday. I wanted to see someone bang their shoe on the table, like Kruschev at the UN! Or better yet, flip the table over and tell Fredo “it’s go time!” In my dreams…
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 15
All hail Zod.
Short NYT:
We don’t yet know whether Mr. Gonzales is merely so incompetent that he should be fired immediately, or whether he is covering something up.
Short ET:
Do your fucking job, NYT, and maybe we’ll find out.
This is not a case of politicization of the DOJ; it is a case of criminalization. The whole affair is a criminal enterprise run out of “Rove’s shop.” The attempt (perhaps already successful) to turn the DOJ into the enforcement arm of the “permanent Republican majority” must be thwarted at every step. A series of hearings, or even the firing or resignation of Gonzales, is not enough, for without a wholesale housecleaning, opponents of the regime will be subject to arbitrary prosecution (or even incarceration without prosecution). The Maladministration has already shown us that it will use any and every extra-legal authority it has claimed in the GWOT for narrow partisan purposes–perhaps only for partisan purposes.
I’m with retirin in five about the peanut in the dinosaur suit. On the otherhand, I could easily see wanting the peanut to wear the dinosaur suit 24/7, and I’m not sure how much the parents would like it.
Great summation CHS! Thanks for the NYT ed link, and from it:
“We don’t yet know whether Mr. Gonzales is merely so incompetent that he should be fired immediately, or whether he is covering something up.”
This is the crux of the matter. But, either way Gonzales (and America) loses. Sad, sad, sad. We cannot let this happen again - never ever!
I think Dick Durbin did the best job of turning that argument around on Gonzo, that the Dems were not impugning the folks who did the work, Gonzo was.
Mauimom @
11
That was Schumer, but Leahy wasn’t far behind. It was almost as raucous as when all the former Marines in the damn House (including a few Republicans) rose up en masse to go after Jean Schmidt’s trashing of John Murtha, a guy who if he’d taken a slightly different career path would have been Commandant of the USMC.
Tear down this wall, President Bush!
EPU’d from below @193 but if anyone needs a morning laugh:
Mornin’ pups! Just getting here in a drive-by while perusing the news sites but seeing the post thought this might be pertinent:
Scarecrow posts:
_”The best thing about my family is my wife. She is a great first lady. I know that sounds not very objective, but that’s how I feel. And she’s also patient. Putting up with me requires a lot of patience.”
One of the gossip columnists at E! online, Ted Casablancas, had a bit in his column yesterday claiming that Stepford Laura is living at the Adam-Hays Hotel in DC. She’s supposed to have moved out because Commander Codpiece is off the wagon big-time.
(Hey, we can’t be serial all the time ya know!)
TiredFed @
4
Hear! Hear! Great work, Christy.
As for Jane, she’s probably on a long walk after a great, healthy breakfast.
If you back out your viewpoint to, say the spacestation, Gonzales appears to be nothing more than a vulnerable minority, real estate lawyer who got some good jobs because of his unbridled adoration and willingness to fulfill all the needs of a spoiled brat, elitest, reckless, control freak. Gonzo is one of child king W’s doting nannys - nothing more. If he ever had any dignity, George has used it and sucked it all out of him. If I was his wife, I’d be really pissed of at W, but apparently reports say she is pissed at everyone else instead.
‘Morning, Christy, excellent job yesterday, and thanks to Jane for sneaking in and picking up so seamlessly after 4:00 pm.
Let me say first that I’m not a lawyer, but I think it’s the lawyer-component in the Senate Judiciary Committee on both sides of the aisle that was disgusted by Abu’s testimony yesterday.
This whole thing broke open after McNulty’s testimony that the Gonzo 7 (Chiara hadn’t yet been connected) were fired for performance reasons. That was the first salvo against the integrity of attorneys, who by virtue of their profession must rely on integrity as a key asset; it thoroughly torqued off David Iglesias to hear this assassination. And this wasn’t just a defamation of their character — the kind against which attorneys regularly take action for clients — but the falseness of the claims. Carol Lam said she had no communications from DOJ-DC about immigration being a problem; if anything, DOJ-DC had defended her office’s performance, as the doc dump shows. This makes claims that her performance was poor not only defamatory but false. IANAL, but in the corporate world, this would be enough to start a wrongful discharge and/or defamation of character suit. The bulk of the members of the SJC are attorneys; they didn’t see just badmouthing by Abu G., but a gross breach of standards of professional conduct in their profession, along with the otherwise actionable damages, right under their noses, to their faces. It was completely unconscionable behavior, like watching a school-aged child having a full-body tantrum in the main aisle of the church during a wedding; it’s just not done or permitted, remove the child now. That’s why even the Republicans were unhappy with Abu; he was beyond the pale.
I haven’t seen any lawyers commenting on this component, yet — the gross lack of professional conduct — but I wonder if it’s also not most lawyers’ training in conduct that prevents them from pointing to this.
Political Value -
I still think there is much political value in keeping Gonzo in his chair. Think about:
Bush defending him for a few more months will cause even Joe Moderate Sixpack to question his mental state.
Impeachment “foreplay” can go on for months while more and more facts are delved into.
Pressure will build on his underlings to “flip” because they seem him still afloat.
Rove will continue to finger his fundie-bots, like Sampson, and keep feeding them more damning info to Rove’s own peril… More obvious leaks, etc. will have to be resorted to.
Maybe the guy ought to stay and be the “Poster Boy” of Our Benighted Emperor’s mentally deranged state.
I’m glad AGAG didn’t resign earlier. This is a prism through which the standard operating procedure of the entire Bush Administration can be seen. AGAG was on the hot seat, but don’t you just know that if GWB had to answer for his decisions (Iraq, Katrina, Abu Gharaib), his performance on the hot seat would mirror his AG’s.
Whole thing sounds like just another version of the 60 Grit Employment Agency being run in Iraq by Mr. Kate O’Beirne.
And Whitehouse was very impressive.
Other Pat @
19
At this juncture, Mr. Gonzales might not know whether he’s coming or going… *g*
yeah, so what now? On Matthews last night, even the Dem said there is no underlying crime… what about all those emails? PRA? Hatch Act? Obstruction?
Arrgghh!!
notjonathon @ 24
so true. must start this ASAP. We can count on getting rid of schedule C appointments, but not the Browniebots that get permanent jobs. God help us if that happens. I’ve been here for almost 30 years!
Conason is calling for a special prosecutor.
Go Joe!
salon.com link
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 15
Get to the fresh thread first, there is a ZERO as the comment number {changes to 1 on refresh}.
The ‘zed’ is ‘z’ for ‘zero’ … but I guess it should be ‘nil’.
Yeah loved those mantras: (whine)” when you are attacking me, you are attacking career prosecutors.” As Alicia Silverstone would say, “as if!”
Abu also used some of the same lame phrases and justifications that Sampson did (almost as much as the contradicted each other), like: “they served 4 years. The US attorneys have no guarantee of a job” or “(the decision) was the concensus of senior officials.” I almost forgot that Abu is a senior official during the testimony.
What might Whitehouse have been alluding to regarding the OPR investigating lawyers? Anyone?
LS @ 32
No offense, but DUHHH! This whole house of horrors has been built in this exact same pattern. The fake evangelical bullshit is simply the medium for controlling the fundie-bots.
What, exactly, is the difference between this and the Ayatollah’s, Madrassah’s and street level Mullah’s? What?
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 15
getting the zed is posting when there are zero comments. That’s zero with a zed.
Isn’t taking over all of the departments of a government for your personal political purposes misconduct?
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 37
I think he is staying. GW is one stubborn man, that tennis incident proves that. And besides, the purpose of a firewall is to give it’s life for you. GW will hold on to him until there is nothing but shreds left.
Ed*ard Teller @ 29
epu-d from last thread:
Puesto @ 163
This from Think Progress this morning:
The U.S. military is constructing a 3-mile-long concrete wall in Baghdad “to cut off one of the capital’s most restive Sunni Arab districts from the Shiite Muslim neighborhoods that surround it, raising concern about the further Balkanization of Iraq’s most populous and violent city.”
I assume lots of people are old enough to remember the Berlin Wall. Well, if there is any indication that we are in the middle of a civil war, and have two ideological extremes - Sunni and Shiite - who have hated each other for 1,300 years…
What, exactly, do we hope to accomplish that is in America’s best interests by sitting on a wall between two fanatical religious sects? What?
The 00s are all about walls. Wall in Baghdad (not the first BTW-all the blast walls that preceded it), wall in Palestine, wall that Saudi Arabia is building on border with Iraq, wall on U.S. border with Mexico. Unlike Berlin wall, these are all to keep people out. Now what does that reveal about the society we are living in?
As much as I loathe Abu, what’s with the Peanut Gallery? It was kinda fun but I thought it was also distracting and someday it could be a bunch of Rove’s Brownshirts doing the heckling. I’m convinced Karl has made some RNC e-mails so that next time some of his boys will be in the gallery..
over and over. Which senior officials? Their names? It was striking that he was unable or unwilling to pair a single name with compiling the list.
WRT the Republics on the Judiciary committee. Do y’all think that they came to the hearing expecting that Gonzo would be more credible, and were so shocked by his incompetence that they had to be critical of him? For example, do you think that Cornyn was planning to be supportive, and then changed his mind during the hearing, or do you think that he had decided to throw him under the bus from the start. Thanks, in advance, for your sage perspectives.
Not only was it outrageous BS for Gonzo to say that the committee was criticizing the USA professionals…
but Gonzo actually said he did not know who Patrick Collins was??!! Did anyone else catch that? I am certainly very aware of who Patrick Collins is and his prosecutorial record — How can the AG not know who he is??? Unbelieveable!
Rayne @ 33
IANAL so this may be a stupid comment, but these guys can’t seem to give anyone a straight answer to a yes or no question. It’s always couched. whats up with that? is that a class in law school?
Another year of the Bushista regime’s incompetence and blindly willful stupidities and people will forget where the term apparatchik originated.
[CHS notes: I am so editing this comment. For your own good.] OK Tnx, I can see why. Big whoops. /blush
TiredFed at 53 — Nah, it’s a class in political smarm school — it’s called “Plausible Deniability 101.” Except these were pretty much non-plausible dodges, so the AG mut have flunked the course.
LS @ 46
No, ask Bolton. Acording to him that is your right for stealing wining an election. Their line is “Doesn’t everyone do that?”
The shameless display of incompetence was astounding. (Leahy was overheard on the c-span mics saying: “This guy shouldn’t even be in charge of a lunch room!”)
But not just Gonzales’. Rove’s as well. Not only did he completely blow it for the rethugs in the last election (being wrong about every. single. thing.). He didn’t even have the brains to put the kabosh on this lame-brained USA firing scheme after the Dems gained control of congress.
Hubris emanating from his sealed Whitehouse bubble of an office.
And Schumer/Leahy/Conyers are not going to give up on the RNC emails. Schumer made that clear when talking to reporters at the end. Rover overreached and it will turn out to be a gift that will not stop giving.
I hope he hangs on till we get the RNC e-mails.
Mae @ 51
Hard to tell with people living in a bubble. But from those of us outside the bubble, Gonzo has never said anything intelligent, so testimony came out as expected. D questioners, for me, came out a bit above expectations.
Jane Hamsher @ 36
My former home state comes through. I remember visiting RI last May and seeing Chafee signs which said, basically, keep him even though he’s one of those fucktard republicans, cuz he’s a nice guy and you all really like him. So so glad that line didn’t work, so that Sheldon could take it to the (White) house!
(Sorry.)
Ed*ard Teller @ 29
remember that bridge that was destroyed on april 12th?
yeah. as bernhard writes, connect these dots:
maps, and more at the link.
Pat_AlexVA @ 35
it is clear from both Abu’s and Sampson’s testimony that this whole campaign originated and was run out of the White House. Let’s move on to Miers and Rove. More fun is in store.
Pat_AlexVA @ 59
And the other 750,000 Abramoff investigation documents that were suppressed by McCain’s committee.
O.K. Justifications. Chiara was fired for poor judgement (too many post-it notes?) McKay was fired for some sort of gaffe involving a letter. And Cummins? Oh well, Karl Rove’s boy need a job.
Jane Hamsher @ 36
{{{{Jane}}}} hope this day finds you well-rested and ready to go. could be more Friday afternoon docudumps! all the best.
IMO the White House “full confidence” routine gives Gonzo the cover he neeeds to be able to resign “for the good of the DOJ” and he’ll be gone by the end of the day.
Mutant Poodle @ 61
Why oh why are you sorry? Are you sorry that you popped the champagne and no one is there to share? I have no idea at all why you would be sorry. But if it is about the champagne I mention, how about an address and maybe I can help you out…
Other Pat @ 19
It’s overcompensation to overcome his poor-boy Texas roots. A lot of that crowd has never put a “g” on the end of any gerund or present participle in their entire lives.
But back to something I noticed yesterday: The Republicans kept going on and on about how the “other side” had yet to prove a political motive in the firings. They harped on that.
Whitehouse, like a good prosecutor, laid a good factual case for how politicized the department had become, but it was, surprisingly, Schumer and DiFi who kept circling in, near to landing the fatal blow, on why no one can prove a political motive: the Gonzales DOJ gang is passing the buck so much that the D’s can’t pull in the person who put the purge list together. Without that person, they can’t get at why the attorneys on it were there. So nobody knows who put the list together. It’s not Abu, it’s not Sampson, it’s not Mercer, it’s not McNulty. As Bay State Liberal put it yesterday, this purge list is the Immaculate List–it just appeared out of nowhere, as if by magic. DiFi said it best: Some human being(s) drafted this list. Who?
Schumer thinks it’s Rove and/or Meiers. He’s probably right. So where does he get the link proving it? Is this what Goodling knows? I don’t know. But the D’s are right to lean on her. She has the most to lose in all this.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 56
And speaking of smarm, can we please do something about Orrin “I oil my vocal chords every morning” Hatch? I was driving my sister to the airport when he was on, and I nearly drove off the road.
Ed*ard Teller @
23
Even shorter STTP:
I’ll take the odds on both!
dead last @ 9
Cleanup duty means that it’s finally over. It will be joyous.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 6
Tell me about it! I don’t think I’ve been at a party like that since about 1969. Maybe some Renzi juice could act as a Bloody Mary? :)
Thanks for all the hard work Christy & FDL’ers! It made a Superbowl party out of an otherwise boring Allstar game.
p.s. I knew we were off to a good start when I saw your Texas Toast graphic…just days before while at the market, I saw a mother & daughter racing down an aisle with 2 giant cartons of Texas Toast in their cart, and nothing else. I thought to myself “thats strange…never saw anyone buy that stuff before.” (true story)
lololol
I (prolly imperfectly) recall some of TRex’s outstanding snark from last nite… Abu “shouldn’t be in charge of running a bath much less the engines of justice for our country…” “Bush cronies are to regular cronies as nuclear detonations are to static cling…” can’t get much better schadenfreude than that… Tnx Trex…
Oh… can we get another Mea Culpa from “Nothing to see here” Carney?
Pat_AlexVA @ 68
Reflex with bad puns. No open and flattening champagne to speak of.
LS @ 64
Moveon.org is preparing to run videos in early GOP primary states based on McCain’s Bomb Iran! comments in front of a VFW meeting the other day.
I can just see any Gonzo replacement coming into his/her first day on the new job, getting an overview of what has been going on, and then FREAKING OUT.
Mornin’ Christy, Jane, and Firedogs
Schumer remarks on Indian Affairs Comm. docs
fyi- just finished going through what I had on tivo and didn’t hear it BUT - there’s a ‘gap’ (apparently mr cbl qualifies for a job with Abu!) we don’t have testimony immediately after lunchbreak and the aforementioned reference to Schumer’s remarks pointed to that timeframe
Mae @ 51
What’s really suprising is that Gonzo went through days of practice to get to this level of incompetence. He is a true Bushie.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @
15
“Zed” is “Z” everywhere where English is spoken, in French and German too: I do not know Italian, Spanish or Portuguese, but it looks as if the US might be alone on this one…… like putting the date round the wrong way and having light switches upside down……..
Other Pat @ 19
Oh, I noticed Abu’s tongue began to stick a little to his mouth. Click, click. I do that when I am nervous sometimes. Maybe that has to do with the mispronunciation.
Woodhall Hollow @ 58
And, really, if you think about it, keeping Gonzo in his chair keeps the Republicans from defending “Exec Privilege” or whatever, because Joe Sixpack can see clearly they would be defending an obvious idiot.
If Gonzo goes, then this could appear to be overplaying an overzealous hand.
EPU’d from last thread: I just sent the following as a letter to the editor of local papers and to various congresspeople. Feel free to borrow whatever you like:
CHS
Thanks for the live blogging. I read early in the afternoon, and immediately called Whitehouse’s office to thank them.
Then I read Coburn, was pleasantly surprised, and called his office to thank them. The guy thanked me, saying that most of the calls were going the other way. In keeping with the program of rewarding them when we catch them doing something right, it would be good to call that office and thank them. Point out that it is gratifying that Senator Coburn understands the importance of political independence in the US Attorney’s office, and that he understands that it is more important than his respect for the administration.
bilzim @ 67
(1) Locate Deity
(2) Moisten lips
(3) Locate ears of Deity
(4) Apply lips to ears.
carolyn urban @ 50
Sampson waddled his a$$ over to the WH every week. met with Miers, et al. this list got vetted every week. most of the top DOJ officials have already said they didnt contribute to the list one way or another. Next step: subpoena Miers and Rove.
When it comes to the character of the present AG, one incident, small to be sure perhaps, sticks in my mind. I am speaking of Mr. Gonzales’ scheme to get Bush out of serving on jury duty in Texas some years ago. The real motive of course was to prevent the public from being made aware of the prez’s DUI conviction. The reason for this action, as now many of us know, was to ensure the Bush-Gonzales-Rove quest for the presidency was safe from any threats. Sometimes, little things like this can say a whole lot about a person’s character. Some might argue this dirty little trick, was a harbinger of things to come.
LS @ 77
I doubt it..Abu’s replacement will have the same marching orders from Rove but will be even sneakier and more dangerous than Gonzales..
Somewhat OT, and sad on some levels, but also quite schadenfreudelicious:
“Nifong” has ceased to be a person’s name, and has become a word with a meaning. In a letter to the chancellor of LSU, the attorney for Dana “Pokey” Chatman, the former head women’s basketball coach at the school, said of the school’s investigation of charges that Chatman had become romantically involved with players, “I suggest that the decision making process applied in this case was created by someone who must have graduated from the Nifong school of decision making.”
It remains to be seen whether that allegation by Ms. Chatman’s attorney has a basis in fact. However, after yesterday’s hearing, abu Gonzo cannot justly claim to have been Nifonged.
bilzim @ 67
I don’t believe it. I think Bush will let him twist in the wind a bit longer. It’s called “loyalty”.
Any ideas who he would replace Gonzo with?
I thought the two most important exchanges yesterday were when DiFi made it clear that NO ONE at DoJ was responsible for making the list combined with Whitehouse’s brilliant illustration of the removal of any barriers between the WH and DoJ. Hence the WH must be running DoJ these days, since no one there is. Even though the WH wants to keep Abu in place to continue stonewalling Congress, the testimony yesterday makes the necessity of moving the investigation into the WH absolutely clear.
One of the more interesting parts of the hearing was when one of the rethug Senators (not Kyle, the other one) used his time to rake him over the coals about the lack of DOJ cooperation on other matters. A lot of it went over my head because I wasn’t familiar with all the issues, but I got the point as I watched Gonzales stutter and sweat even more (again, he wasn’t prepared to speak intelligably!).
Part of it had to do with the DOJ trying to prevent a federal prisoner from testifying before a Senate committee, “for the safety of the prisoner!” Unprecedented position on the part of the DOJ, as I understand it.
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There could also be a factor of having played along with some of the Bush agenda in the past. Like Iglesias. Guess what Digby dug out of the WaPo archives about him?
That’s only one case, but it could well be that this didn’t start with Abu. And if more of this stuff turns up from Ashcroft’s AG tenure…
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