
Ah, irony. Not only does it look like the Regent University grads and Bush flunkies did a horseshit job of redacting today's doc dump, but one of the nicest chunks of damning evidence against Alberto Gonzales is one that never got redacted.
Check this out, courtesy of a fellow over at DailyKos:
Smoking gun? ( 20+ / 0-)
This was not even redacted. Batch 5 p 14. 2/12/07 From Monica:This is the chart that the AG requested.It shows detail for each fired USA and each proposed replacement. Information Abu said UNDER OATH that he did not have, and was not involved with.His testimony should be interesting...
Yeah, it should be.
I can't wait.
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UPDATE: The Bad News -- if only I'd looked at The Damned Date, I would have seen that this memo was dated AFTER Abu's testimony. Arrrgh! The Good News -- there's other, much better evidence that has Kyle Sampson crafting at least one chart for Gonzo BEFORE he testified.
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So long sucka.
45 minutes to go. I picked Friday the 13th at 4:45. I’m holding my breath.
I have just one more thing to add:
(nelson muntz)
HA-HA!
(/nelson muntz)
Are these all from doj or did Monica fork em over along with her immunity deal?
Who do you think will replace him?
And GOOD RIDDANCE Abu….ya loser!
Digby had a post about how people are not doubled over with laughter at the prospects of Gonzales having stopped everything, everything and taken to 5 hour cramming sessions for his upcoming testimony.
We are paying a man that much money to cram for testimony about a matter he had little to do with?
That is funny.
-GSD
Well, if I were Monica, no matter how brass balled, I’d have been ducking and weaving too, knowing God-zalez was a big fat liar and was going to get to be toast!
lolo @
4
This is all from today’s doc dump. And the section that nails AGAG wasn’t even redacted.
Phoenix Woman rises!
I am thinking that there may be something to Friday the 13th being a lucky day after all……
Every little straw like Imus, the e-mail disappearance and Monica G. is undermining the Bush White House.
April is also the cruelst month
Cramming his foot in his mouth.
Put me down for Next Monday as Gonzo’s Last Goodbye.
And I’ll give even odds that he has an ‘accident’ before he can spill anything.
Meanwhile . . . Deadeye Darth Vader is off killing birds . . .
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITI.....index.html
When the going gets rough, the VP plays with dollies!
GSD @ 7
Yup. It’s also funny how people who tell the truth, plain and unadorned, don’t need to cram in the first place.
Oh, ow.
Hey, PW, did you like all the people signing Issa’s hissy fit letter about the lack of illegal immigration prosecutions, in October 2005? And one of the co-signers was Duke Cunningham–only a month before he had to resign? And Doolittle?
Isn’t the timing of their concern interesting?
It’s in sec. 7. Page 18, I think.
As a friend of my son’s used to say in situations like this, No tact. No class.
Phule @ 13
I am thinking some time this weekend.
Texas Betsy @
5
Goddess knows. But we should be ready to start Googling him/her for Regent connections.
drive by from work . . .
laughing too hard to comment
as our beloved Sharkbabe would say -
The calls are coming from inside the house!
Remind me again about the dates. Did the firings occur before this e-mail? And when did he make the “I don’t know anything” statements? I thought at one point that the DoJ was trying to make up reasons to justify the firings long after the fact, and it would have made sense for Gonzales to ask for a list of the reasons that were being made up, so he’d have something to say. But if this occurred before, then it looks pretty smokey.
The rating is now 25 .
I’ve been looking in on the stuff at TPM from time to time. I think the commenters are ready to start throwing canned veggies in response to the canned official answers.
CNN attacking Margaret Chiara for the staff bonus thingy in the documents. One should note, that there is no clear reference who wrote the note, “Hey Rachel” or when it was written, that was quoted on CNN. There follows a memo from Chiara explaining that she realized that some people didn’t get awarded that particular year, but maybe next year, if their work was outstanding.
Did someone at DOJ pull the trigger on purpose for leaving that little tidbit unredacted?
If so,
THANKS!
LJ/Aquaria,
there’s yet another connection btw all those pukes on that hissy fit letter -
all of them rec’d $$ from and lobbied for the Bajagua project (San Diego/Mexico), you know, the vendor nobody wanted . . .until Cheney met with them twice
Why didn’t DOJ redact the damning stuff as they had before? Intentional nails?
just a clarification –
there is a strong possibility that the “redacted but readable” documents aren’t redacted, but highlighted.
It wasn’t a bird, it was a homicide pigeon.
Time to crack down on this threat too.
-GSD
LJ/Aquaria @ 16
IANCHS (or AL), but I’ll reply anyway. :-)
One of the small silver linings of consolation about seeing Darrell Issa blow off a few million of his own money to pay for Gray Davis’ recall was knowing that he’d done it so that he could run for governor — only to be shoved aside by Pete Wilson’s boys, who ran Arnold hoping that the Terminator would be an obedient little T-800 unit. They thought wrong, and Ahnuld’s now putting as much daylight as he can between Wilson (and Bush) and himself.
I will give Issa this: He’s at least willing to defend Pelosi against Bush’s bullcrap attacks RE: Middle East trips.
On CNN just now, Wolf asked Andrea Koppel if there was anything interesting in the DOJ document dump today. She said there is one interesting thing. She proceeds to quote from the letter a staffer wrote about Chiara’s cruel management style. Then, Andrea concludes, this document bolsters DOJ’s contention that at least Chiara was fired for performance reasons.
Excuse me, I have to go throw up.
Not just Gonzales, but Sampson made some statements about the AG’s involvement, also under oath, that do not really jive with this either.
Monica seems to be less willing, what with emails in her name, to lie under oath to Congress. Popcorn time.
If jayt is around (or any other hoosier who will appreciate the time references) I put up an appreciation piece for Mike Pence up at kos
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/13/151456/369
Reminds me of that Janis Joplin tune, bye bye baby bye bye…I was just listening to that on the ride to work.
scarecrow @
20
Scarecrow: Looks like it was 1/9/2006
Update: Looks like the “memo” was from that date.
Ruh roh, Houston, Abu has a problem.
To me, this document drop, seems like damage control for the previously dumped docs. They’ve had plenty of time to mess with the documents to present them the way they want to.
Also, there is a section where they are watching Issa on C-Span questioning a border control guy, and the DOJ is getting all pissed at the border control guy for answering truthfully, instead of sticking to their coached answers.
Implosions tend to happen quickly.
Next week’s gonna rock.
p.lukasiak @ 26
Yeah, some people were considering that; the one thing making folks think it was indeed redaction is the neatness of it: the squared-off blocks, etc. The guess is that it was done by hand with black pen — red marker would have guaranteed it wasn’t legible, but not many people know this.
Was Andrea Koppell in on the Whitehouse pundit/pressure presser?
These nitwits need to be spoon fed everything.
There won’t be a story until Josh Marshall digests and explains everything so that MSMonkies can follow along.
-GSD
p.lukasiak @ 26
Big blocks like that? Sure looks like my old man’s WWII V-Mail.
I’d look carefully at Chiarra’s deal. Read local media about her close ties and working relationship to a couple tribal judicial functionaries.
Either she was ‘good’ (in the sense of doing what we’d consider serving justice)…or it’s part of Abramoff.
A smear needs to be scrutinized more closely, imho.
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EPU’d
Cash hosted ‘Derek/Dominos’ on TV show. Google Vid has it. Then, Clapton/Cash/Perkins perform “Matchbox” - 8 min clip.
Comment 118 last thread has the link.
Have any documents turned up with the name Valerie Flame written on them in a jagged Judith Miller cursive?
-GSD
but look at the date. this is way after he testified. And this is from the older dump as well. this isn’t new. in fact, it would actually show that he didn’t know when he testified. This is the doj trying to justify the firings after the shit hit the fan…
this was present in doc dump number two. They’re sendig the sme stuff again.
This idiot Tasia or whatever the name is has the “Clinton FIRED all the USAs when he took office” as a talking point for the 3/6 briefing of Abu. Or maybe Moschella? They make this kinda difficult to follow. Lots of duplication here.
Interesting too that over 40 USAs (presumably First and Asst) have left their posts for various reasons over the previous 5 years. Is that a normal rate of turnover for DOJ?
This sounds like perjury,
When Henry Waxman’s done with Abu G,
He’ll be half the man he used to be…
…’Cause he’ll be charged with perjury!
p.lukasiak @ 26
And it’s possible that Rove really thought that the emails were saved elsewhere when he deleted them.
Blank Kludge @ 39
Clapton, Cash, Perkins!
Their primary loyalty is to their demi-god bush. Why would they redact anything about torquemada? He is to be the junta’s next fall guy.
LS @
22
I missed this. What? Are they using this as an excuse to fire Chiara now?
EvilDrPuma @ 43
Very nice! original?
Pelosi-Murtha ‘07!
Texas Betsy @ 48
Burma Shave
The White House was up to their necks in this stuff:
EvilDrPuma @ 43
how about a haiku contest?
Right out of the Bush playbook. Mission accomplished.
AP - Iraq’s parliament met in an extraordinary session of “defiance” on Friday, the Muslim day of prayer, and declared it would not bow to terrorism. A bouquet of red roses and a white lily sat in the place of Mohammed Awad, the lawmaker killed a day earlier in the dining hall suicide bombing claimed by al-Qaida.
Texas Betsy @ 48
Not entirely…but I thought the surviving members of the Beatles would prefer to go uncredited.
Jwoods @ 52
they told me to live up to my abilty
now I’m in a correctional facilty
Al Gonbyebye. Is their one identifiable person of principle in the Bush admin?
They state that wanted muddy the waters at the hearings.
From page 121 of 211 in the 7th set of docs:
—– Original Message—–
From: Scolinos, Tasia
To: Bartlett, Dan; Martin, Catherine
CC: Roehrkasse, Brian
Sent: Mon Mar 05 10:51:44 2007
Subject: US Attorney Hearing: DRAFT Talking Points
>
>
Dan/Cathie -
In preparation for tomorrow’s hearing where six of the dismissed US Attorneys will be testifying, we have drafted some talking points that we were going to insert into Will Moschella’s testimony (the DOJ witness) that get out the message that although we stand by the decision to remove these folks the process by which they were informed was not optimal. Right now the coverage will be dominated by how qualified these folks were and their theories for their dismissals. We are trying to muddy the coverage up a bit by trying to put the focus on the process in which they were told - I suspect we are going to get to the point where DOJ has to say this anyway. First, it is true. Second, we are having morale problems with our other US Attorneys who understand the decision but think that these folks were not treated well in the process. I think from an internal management perspective it needs to be said. We are also discussing internally if we can/should release more information about why these folks were let go if we can address the privacy act aspects. I think it cuts both ways - it does prolong the story in a sense because I suspect that the US Attorneys will just go away at some point when they feel they have vindicated their reputations. On the other hand, I don’ t know if the Senate Dems will let this go until it is all out in the open. Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks.
I can find the comment, but the diary seems to have disappeared.
Now who would delete a recommended diary? Who was the poster?
Phoenix Woman @ 3
what’s a nelson muntz?
pwrlght @ 47
They are trying to show that Chiara had employee “morale” problems to back up their post-firing, retro damage control claims, and notations on her performance review.
Jwoods @ 52
Abu Gonzales
Frogmarched into Leavenworth
Let the games begin.
Abu Haiku:
The new emails show
You were lying all along.
Your career is toast.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 56
No.
This has been another installment of Simple Answers to Stupid Questions.
We’re in high crimes and misdemeanors here, pups.
Looks like Abu isn’t the only one tossed over the side.
Someone wanted to clean house at DOJ.
____________________________________________
Document set 6 (OLP-917)…
Page 29
Senior DOJ officials talking about how to use their official knowledge of a SEALED indictment to help the White House’s immigration messaging.
They have so politicized JUSTICE that not just any attorney, an attorney who is now…
in the Office of the Deputy Attorney General of the United States of America..
asks her legal peers “can we use this” SEALED INDICTMENT?
Why do the Bushies hate Justice?
__________________________________________
re:
“Alien Smuggling Arrests - SEALED INDICTMENT”
“this sounds like a story that the WH-1 immigration working group should be aware of and perhaps highlight.”
(from)
Courtney Simmons Elwood
Deputy Chief of Staff and Counselor to the Attorney General
(to - includes Kyle Sampson and Jeffery Taylor at DOJ, as well as Brand)
Brand (ODAG) asks “Can we say anything about it at this poinnt?”
Taylor (OAG): “Not until it is unsealed, an then, of course, we would have to be careful.”
Ryan W. Bounds (OLP) observes to Brand (ODAG) …and only Brand:
“That is all very serendipitous, since we were just talking with Taylor yesterday about criticism for the lack of alien smuggling prosecutions in So Cal….”
[from fdl 10:20 PDT April 13 - kjm]
The blithering idiots of the MSM (I’m talking about YOU, Brian Williams) will need about four days to catch up. Expect to see this story on CNN on maybe Tuesday. And they wonder why their audience is dwindling.
LS @ 60
So that was the excuse they came up with after she was fired and they were under pressure?
A couple of commenters have asked the question about the relationship between the date shown in the document (2/12/07) and the date of Gonzales’ testimony that he did not get involved in the details (which one of those commenters - - Robin as quoted below) indicated was prior to this document. If the testimony preceded the document, the document proves nothing since it could easily be explained as Gonzales simply trying to get to the bottom of the story after the fact.
robin @ 41
TRex @ 62
After Gonzales
Confirmation hearings start
Leahy does a dance.
Jumping in quickly to say:
I’ll bet a sweet cuddly puppy that Bush nominates Yoo to replace Abu.
The DAG said that they are actively working with the members to tee the right questions up
And which members were they coaching? All Rs, I would guess. This ought to be followed up, too, because the DOJ really shouldn’t be doing it as a way to get around the investigation of illegalities (or as a way of putting unqualified nominees in office).
This will leave a mark.
Ow.
—– Original Message—–
From: Moschella, William
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:32 PM
To: Goodling, Monica; Roehrkasse, Brian; Sampson, Kyle; Elston, Michael (ODAG); Hertling,
Richard
Subject: Re: Press calls are coming i n t o OPA
Adding Richard. We should make sure R’ s are educated. I would hate t o lose t hi s
provision.
AG wi l l need a paper on t hi s.
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Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
Is anyone else getting frustrated with not having good header/mailer info on these docudump email messages, at least the domain names? It makes it impossible to know where things are coming from/going to.
BTW: Why would someone include a message about sent from a Blackberry?
Karma punks you G
Docs are out for all to see
So No Soup For You
Audrey @ 69
oooo! now THAT would be interesting!
Audrey @ 69
We happen to be in need of a sweet puppy. You’re on!
Audrey @ 69
Bush nominates Yoo
The Senate hands him back his ass
Advice and consent.
EvilDrPuma @
43
And, if convicted, I recommend he serve out his sentence in the Texas prison system. Maybe, Huntsville….
EvilDrPuma @ 63
Stupid questions?
Overheard in the WH: “George, don’t drink another one yet. We need you to sign some pardons. We don’t think the preprinted ones are a go.”
P J Evans @ 70
I’ve seen other docs where they were coaching Sessions, and then expanded it to try to get the friendly questions to all Rs.
I’ve also seen where they make a point of saying “the Dems are having a hearing”, rather than the House or Senate.
Audrey @ 69
Oh please - I so hope he does.
Torture USA under Senate Confirmation Hearings.
Booyah ;)
My name is Abu
I love Harriet Miers
Have fun, you’re fired
EvilDrPuma @
61
nice haiku, but maybe we should wait and see how deadeye’s current bird hunting trip turns out before we start a poetry contest. He’s our main muse.
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Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
Is anyone else getting frustrated with not having good header/mailer info on these docudump email messages, at least the domain names? It makes it impossible to know where things are coming from/going to.
BTW: Why would someone include a message about sent from a Blackberry?
Blackberry automatically does this.
Anyone see Mary’s new diary at Kos–hilarious–read and recommend
Phule @
13
I can’t help but point out that Monday is Patriot’s Day in Massachusetts.
I’m gonna go call my broker and buy me some popcorn futures. Toodles.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 78
Okay, that was harsher than I intended. How about “senselessly rhetorical?”
Your lies fall away
Like fragile cherry blossoms.
Na na, hey hey, BYEEEEE!!
looseheadprop @ 59what’s a nelson muntz?
A character in The Simpsons. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Muntz for details.
Hi TRex!
EvilDrPuma @ 87
Same deal.
For the best laugh of the day, go read Mary2002’s diary at dkos: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/13/151456/369
pwrlght @ 84
Ah. Thanks. Never had one, never got mail from one, so I wasn’t sure how it worked.
But the question remains… Was it an official BB…or an RNC BB…?
That’s why I’m a little frustrated that there’s such…skimpy header/mailing data here.
A. Gonzoles should just role over now and give us Rove… that’s who we want anyway….
and then the President.
TRex @
88
Gotta admit - one of the best Gonzo (as in HST’s definition) Gonezo haikus ever written. mixed metaphors and all.
Abu no will go
POTUS want go Slow
Abu run out clockit on docket
LJ @ 72
It’s almost certainly automatic, like the ISPs putting a self-advertising message on the stuff sent through them. Does tell you they were using their blackberries, though.
Liberty Lover @ 94
1) Gonzo
2) Rove
3) Cheney
4) Bush
Don’t forget Rumsfield. or Poland.
EvilDrPuma @ 68
Monica Goodling
Your handwriting shows your lies
Immunity God?
OT: SHOCKED.
Yes, I am Shocked, SHOCKED I say…
Wolfie apparently lied his ass off when asked about his role in getting his favorite sex partner a 60% salary increase. White House says that of course they stand behind Wolfie- cause he’s taken total responsibility for the problem..
This is such total horseshit. When you take total responsibility- you resign and pay the money back personally that you stole..
Wolfie (and most goopers) think that taking responsibility is uttering the words “I take responsibility”- they don’t even know what the words MEAN.
Watching Dana Perino’s presser from C-SPAN on my laptop. What is the WH Counsel talking with the RNC Counsel about after this subpoena process has started? Is that OK?
You covered his ass,
Spared him from jury duty
He’s not your “client”
rwcole @ 103
Bush said “Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government and to the extent the federal government didn’t fully do its job right, I take responsibility.” That certainly proves your point.
Rove is the linchpin.
Ed*ard Teller @ 104
Of course, obstruction, collusion, deception. It is all at the pleasure of the president, if you will.
-GSD
Patriot’s Day celebrated in Maine, too. IIRC.
Multiply EPU’d and reposted from Easter… :) :)
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And LO! And so it came to pass that it was blog-commented on the Holy Day of the Bunny, that verily the “BeGonezalez” drumbeat accelerateth. I hereby repeateth and reiterateth my prediction of yore that Prince Alberto will be in the can prior to the advent of April the 17th.
The probability of that event is undeniably increasing, neh? :)
Jim Clausen @ 101
Wireless, Rove plots to
Take over the government.
Beware, Karl, bloggers.
Badwater @ 79
Never fear, autopen is ready & waiting.
OHHHH…BEHBY BEHBY BAYYYYBEE, BABY BABY BABYEEE…
man, life is SWEET since the adults are BACK IN THE HOWWWWSSSSSSSEEE
rwcole @ 103
Anybody who sleeps with Wolfowitz deserves a 60% raise.
Sorry, sexist comment, I know, but I’m a private citizen. Also, I’m sure this is an old joke by now, so I’ll apologize for that also!
Does her smug little smirk remind you of all of those mean girlz from middle school? Wouldn’t you just love to make her look bad in front of all of her friends?
Shit- Clusterfuck is makin a career out of “taking responsibility” for shit- trouble is- he doesn’t know what the words mean either.