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When asked his name during his constipatingly staged rap debut, Karl Rove responded "Peter...Patrick Fitzgerald." It was an open taunt, an in-your-face jibe at the federal prosecutor who did not bring Rove up on charges in the CIA leak case. In the wake of Senate and House investigative committees looking for Unka Karl to answer a few questions regarding the firing of the eight US Attorneys, Lambert spots the above Hallmark moment, wherein Rove is seen carrying a "Coptix" brochure:
I guess Karl likes the personal touch when he’s putting White House email out of subpoena range. And this photo is the first hard evidence we have of his personal involvement.
Now, who—you may ask—is Coptix? Let’s review:
Coptix administers gwb43.com’s nameservers. (Rove privatized his email at gwb43.com, in violation of the Presidential Records Act).
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So: Karl went out and hired his own, bespoke, politically wired nameserver company. Of course, Karl would never give business to any company that hadn’t sworn fealty to the authoritarian agenda, but I imagine Karl is also getting a level of, erm, personal service that he wouldn’t get from a fiddy-dollar administrator like GoDaddy or Yahoo or whatever.
Services like storing one's email safely offshore, or perhaps records destruction could be handled in a snap of those porcine little fingers.
Rove is laughing at the notion that he might be subject to the same laws as the little people, standing behind Commander Codpiece and publicly daring someone to hit him. The sheer arrogance on display is certianly not shocking, but it really does beg for some karma-leveling influence in the universe to knock his block off.
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Jane!
So, what would it take to bring up charges on his violation of the PRA? Is it even enforceable?
grrrrr
Awesome catch! Corrente had a good piece on it… Striking, eh?
Are all of Bush’s men so physically unattractive? Or is it just my disgust of them that makes it seem so?
(((((Jane))))))
SusanD @ 4
As I’ve seen others on here say: “They look like Republicans”.
‘Nuff said.
Hey Rovey, didn’t anyone tell you pride comes before a fall.
I’ve been really concerned about those gwb43 and rnc emails being difficult, if not impossible, to get - subpoena or no subpoena. There was some discussion here at the lake about it on Friday that made me feel a little better.
This post makes me worry all over again. I flat out don’t trust them to be forthcoming.
To date Rove seems to have been careful to leave no direct fingerprints, but to work through underlyings such as Sampson, Griffin, Goodling, Jennings, Ralston, et. al.
Targeting that layer of minions seems important as a way to get direct evidence of Rove’s actions, if possible.
This seems a lot like a Mob inquiry, where you work the chain upward to find out who got the orders from the Don.
In the NYT’s on Paul Charlton’s firing, a good read. It does not make the FBI look good: USA Paul Charlton Firing Story
SusanD @ 5
Their greed and lust for power is a dead give-away of their insecurity about their homeliness and, in many cases, portliness.
Bravo Jane!
OT - Bill Bradley virtually endorsed John Edwards just now on the unspeakable & unspellable Suzanne Malvoux at CNN. In the contex of comparing other democrats running for president. Refreshing, of course he is hawking his new book yet it struck me as newsworthy and will clearly cheer the John and Elizabeth Edwards camp.
The sheer arrogance on display is certainly not shocking, but it really does beg for some karma-leveling influence in the universe to knock his block off.
You mean like Rovie commanding the emails to be purged, followed by some Koolaid-intolerant tech revealing the existence of a backup of said emails? Just imagine the look on his face if that actually happened.
Remember, all of those gwb43 email had to get “recieved” somewhere. They would get archived on servers somewhere.
And looking at him, is it any wonder GWB calls him “turdblossom?”
So will Susan Ralston speak Thur?
Shes had her fingers in all of this for a long time.
Will they really release the e-mails from gwb43 or are they scrubbed?
Actually, this makes me feel better about the whole situation. Looks like CREW is on it.
Now where are those “National Security Letters” when you really need one?
SusanD @
5
Both.
Man in the Mists @ 14
He (or she) wouldn’t even need to be Kool Aid-intolerant. Devious would do quite nicely here.
Mandrake @ 12
I suspect a lot of them are insecure about not only their homeliness and their portliness, but also their strong but unspeakable attraction to other men.
All this brings up the off-point question that I never see anyone asking…back when the Plame case first broke, didn’t Pres. Bush state that if anyone in the Whitehouse was exposed as the perps outing Plame, he/she/they would be immediately canned? As a Christian, isn’t Bush to be held up as a man of his word? Why aren’t the Blogs and MSM reporters following up on this? Back to Turd Blossom.
I keep chuckling at the fact that he was joining bush and the SS to “dine” at Porkers.
It could not be more apropos.
Computer savants: does this shit connect up with this?:
http://www.educatedguesswork.o....._uncl.html
I just don’t know, but I’ve not often trusted them before and I’m losing less often than Chris Evert did.
LS @ 8
Except when pride comes & a fall doesn’t.
Ah, what KKKarl and the rest of the Chimpy’s xristians forget is the admonition: as ye sow, so shall ye reap.
Payback is going to be a SERIOULY mean mutha!
…and they all look just the same. the karmic whip is all most at the place where it makes the cracking sound. good luck with that “RAPE the PUBLIC if you CAN” party.
I would volunteer to knock his block off…but some people might think that is wrong.
Of course, I could (and would) pledge $15,000 to charity for three rounds in a No Rules ring with Rovie…if that makes it easier to take.
If someone can arrange…please let me know.
From your keyboard to Fitz’s ears!!!
subdomain: mail.georgewbush.com (5.00 / 6) (#5)
I discovered this last night: the jury’s out on whether or not it’s significant, but I sure hope someone follows this up.
The subdomain mail.georgewbush.com shares an IP address with ONE site, webmail.focushumanitarian.org. They use different nameservers but it is odd that these are the only two sites using 65.207.101.51.
I also found it odd that when I tried to do a reverseIP check at domaintools.com, I got the following error:
Now who or what is FOCUS Humanitarian Assistance? See this USAID company profile for FOCUS Humanitarian Assistance:
Responds to disasters in Tajikistan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, India, and other areas of Central and South Asia with programs that range from relief and recovery to prevention, mitigation, and preparedness to help people cope with both natural and man-made disasters. FOCUS is an affiliate of the Aga Khan Development Network, a network of agencies that focus on health, education, culture, rural development, institution building, and economic development.
I would still like to know why they share the subdomain IP with mail.georgewbush.com! Also, FOCUS Humanitarian Assistance is under the umbrella of the Aga Khan Development Network. Who is Aga Khan?
His Highness the Aga Khan became Imam of the Shia Imami Ismaili Muslims on July 11, 1957 at the age of 20, succeeding his grandfather, Sir Sultan Mahomed Shah Aga Khan. He is the 49th hereditary Imam of the Shia Imami Ismaili Muslims and a direct descendant of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) through his cousin and son-in-law, Ali, the first Imam, and his wife Fatima, the Prophet’s daughter.
This guy’s organization (one of them) is sharing an IP with mail.georgewbush.com? I’d like to see an explanation for that.. . . . . . http://scoop.epluribusmedia.or.....22612/9031
SERIOULY=SERIOUSLY. Damn, I hate when my fingers aren’t as fast as my brain.
anonymous @ 21
I absolutely agree. I’m not a psychologist, but I’ve always believed each of them secretly doubts his own masculinity. Everything they do, all the rule- and law-breaking. Their lust for blood and violence, all seem designed to scream “Look! I’m a man, a MAN! Really!”
Personally,
Those e-mails were deleted a longggggggggggggggg time ago.
They sure do operate like a criminal syndicate, don’t they?
The link @ 30 lolo is a smoking gun. Please read the whole post over there. It is loaded with juicy bits. They have been working on this for a long time.
Man in the Mists @ 14
I watch Erin Brockovich over the weekend for like the 50th time. I just love the creepy guy in the ball-cap who was instructed to shred documents and “he wasn’t such a good employee.” Let’s hope there are people like that on the inside for these e-mails.
great pick-up, lolo.
their tradecraft sucks.
The problem with deleting e-mails is that you have to have control of all the sites where they might be stored, as well as the backups for the servers they were sent from and received at. (I understand the big ISPs only save headers, so all you’d get from them is the fact that a message went from A to B.) I suspect there are people in DC who are very worried about what might be sitting on backups somewhere.
Deleting the emails doesn’t erase them. From everthing I’ve seen/read the Mis-Administration seems close to being technological illiterates. Who in their right mind would dump 3000 emails for a Congressional hearing and put them on public view?
I’m going to be very amused if their use of private servers is what finally hangs the lot of them…
kirk murphy @ 36
I know. I am going to go and find an article that I read that connects heroin trade. be right back…. lolo
oh no…unclosed bold!
SusanD @ 32
It is also about keeping a dirty secret and being a bad boy. They get off on that, too.
Zee @
9
How do we know that the NSA wasn’t covering their butts and collecting data streams from inside the WH?
Wouldn’t that be ironic?
Mauimom @
29
Brisingamen @ 38
Can Waxman ask the FBI to secure those private servers from further tampering?
Jane,
What an incredible pickup!
Whoever Lambert is, I want to buy him/her a drink!
Jane, you are on some roll today, honey.
Dale @ 22
Immediately after the “investigation” began, W’s standard reply was that he wouldn’t comment on an ongoing investigation. Still his line, since Libby hasn’t been sentenced. MSM challeges get shunted aside with ridicule.
portia.vz @
42
I really hope that some of those people who were covering their butts begin to see the writing on the wall and do the right thing. It would be a nice change.
meanwhile, abu is gettin’ busy…
http://www.rawstory.com/showar.....ional.html
Dale @ 22
Actually, Bush’s Christianity appears to be yet another dress up thing for him.
looseheadprop @ 44
She’s always on a roll!! LOVE Jane…and FDL
Jane- I’ll hold him while you punch.
Susan Ralston said she finally had the Blackberry that would let her communicate out side the White House.
They need to subpoena the big frackin’ intercepting server Shrub had installed at AT&T here in San Francisco.
Didn’t that sniff n’ store 95% of the emails sent in the country?
coyne @ 27
WAY TOO PERFECT………I’m sorry to say.
eCAHNomics, thanks for the input. But, didn’t he at one time make a statement similar to the one I paraphrased to the press?
Quod licet Rovis,
Non licet vobis.
etc.
SusanD @
5
No its the inbreeding Kyle Sampson is a mini me clone of KKKarl, bush might look normal but his intelligence level suggests otherwise! I wonder if Nietche’s sister’s colony of inbreed Supermen in South America would look like Karl and bush if they got some food to eat (their desperatly poor farmers). Hey Maybe thats why bushie is bying land in South America he wants to be near his people! The geneticly Challenged!
Dale @ 54
Of course, but just because he said it doesn’t make it so. In fact, if W sez it, it’s a safe bet that the opposite is so.
I was thinking about the karma aspect, and perhaps the ultimate come-back-around will be the destruction of the old white boys network once and for all.
things come undone @ 56
It’s the Stepford husbands phenomenon.
I’ve always felt that Rove’s email to Stephen Hadley, where he claims that he “didn’t take the bait” when Matt Cooper asked about Niger, reads like it was written on the presumption that it could one day be subpoenaed and scrutinized. Especially since it claims that all Rove said to Cooper was not to get “far out in front” of the Niger story, when we know that he in fact leaked Plame’s role to Cooper. The email has always struck me as planted exculpatory pseudo-evidence.
So one wonders whether more truthful Rove emails on this and other press contacts exist(ed) and whether Fitz ever pursued them, or will now.
Tweety just shouted… “Bob Novak is a great reporter!”
Badwater @ 48
Bush’s Christianity is limited to having private conversations with God. No transcript please.
Mimir @ 55
AH~HA!!! Mimir | 01.07.04 - 8:24 pm
Zee @
9
If they are not forthcoming (which, of course, they won’t be), what about probable cause or reasonable cause or whatever…they argued that they could spy on people for those reasons in the eavesdropping deal didn’t they - same goes for their evil Patriot Act rationale. What about circumstantial evidence. Throw it back in their faces. Pull out all the stops. RICO or breach of fiduciary duty. I’m no lawyer obviously, but there must be something. They can run but they can’t hide. They will be caught. There are so many more brilliant minds outside the WH than inside. I have faith in that. Tic…toc…tic…toc
Shoot went to find an article and guess what?? I think it got pulled, grrrrrrrrrrr
Uh, is it ever a good idea to taunt a special prosecutor? Karl should remember that the case is inactive “unless new information comes to light…..”
lolo @ 65
What article? Maybe one of us has it.
guy’s a skunk
lolo @
30
WTF how in bed is karl with Iran? This alone is enough to investigate him Ties to the Shia! The majority religion of Iran!
Zee @
46
It wouldn’t be right. It’s just evening the score.
With regard to whether the NSA may have vacuumed up any of the RNC emails, didn’t I read once that all Blackberry emails are routed through Canada and therefore technically can be considered foreign communications subject to NSA’s giant data-mining operation? And we know that Susan Ralston was thrilled with the RNC Blackberry with which she communicated with Jack Abramoff.
All your email are belong to us….
One immediate potential bit of fallout from this gwb43.com revelation, including Waxman’s request regarding the use of non-official lines of communication to carry out official business, is the paralysis it might induce in a complex path of information flow that was previously generally unnoticed and undisturbed.
Where do they go now to whisper ?
It was about Aga Kahn and the heroin trade and it really tied into all Sibel and Valerie Plame. Oh and WMD and gee here we have a dual ip to Aga Kahn. I will keep looking
lolo
dreamcatcher @
62
Although he hires from so-called Christian stock, I hae never been convinced that Bush himself is one of the true believers. He knows the language, images, code, dogwhistles and stuff, but I think there is just too much meanness in him to be one of them. The true believers are sincere. They might be ruthlessly partisan and deceptive but I don’t think most of them would have mocked Karla Faye Tucker or her conversion. Righteousness, yes; cruelty, no.
I have been stuck on my computer at FDL since six this morning. But I continue cause the information and reasoning are incredible. I am overwhelmed, happy and scared all at the same time. And I have HOPE once more.
Thank you.
Eureka Springs @ 61
Eeeewwww
Mary McCurnin @ 75
keep coming back !!.
P J Evans @
37
Bingo. As well as every fucking laptop, PC and blackberry where any given communication ended up.
Jane (peace be upon you), how do we know that gwb.43 is in violation of the PRA?
Has anyone checked into carrier pigeons lately? Because these guys might be using them for the really untraceable messages.
(Intended as funny, but maybe not really … I can see the GOoPers in DC doing exactly that.)
Every day. Since the beginning.
tidbits from the archives
from Wiki, Peter Fitzgerald:
Throughout his tenure in the Senate, Fitzgerald battled with the state Republican Party leadership. He insisted on the appointment of an out-of-state US attorney, Patrick Fitzgerald (no relation), to investigate corruption in the Illinois state government, which led to several indictments, including that of former Republican Governor George Ryan, who has since been convicted of several criminal abuses of authority. Fitzgerald declined to run for reelection largely because many Republican insiders who had failed to support him in his first run in 1998 had made it clear he would not have their support again, in what he knew would be a much tougher race.
from Wiki, Patrick Fitzgerald:
U.S. Senator Peter Fitzgerald chose not to run for reelection in 2004, leaving Patrick Fitzgerald without a congressional patron. In the summer of 2005, there were rumors that he would not be reappointed to a second four-year term in retaliation for his conduct in investigations into corruption in Illinois and Chicago government, as well as for his investigation of the Plame scandal.
from sourcewatch:
Smear Campaign
Joe Conason wrote in the August 1, 2005 (issue) of the New York Observer that the “Republicans [Are] Ready to Slime Fitzgerald”:
“Circled in a bristling perimeter around the White House, the friends and allies of Mr. Rove can soon be expected to fire their rhetorical mortars at Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor investigating the White House exposure of C.I.A. operative Valerie Wilson. Indeed, the preparations for that assault began months ago in the editorial columns of The Wall Street Journal, which has tarred Mr. Fitzgerald as a ‘loose cannon’ and an ‘unguided missile’.
from the Chicago Tribune:
Fitzgerald not packing his bags
Chicago Tribune, August 4, 2005
U.S. Atty. Patrick Fitzgerald, his future in Chicago uncertain as his four-year term nears its end, said Wednesday he plans to keep at work ‘until someone tells me they’d like someone else to do the job….You’re very lucky to get the job, you do your job, and if someone tells you it no longer serves the pleasure of the president, then you pack your bags and move on,’ Fitzgerald said in answer to reporters’ questions at a news conference.
The title of that photo should be “The Smugness of Evil”.
Bush, a Christian? bwahahahaha
That would explain, then, why - next to Reagan - he’s attended church less during his tenure than any other president. Not to mention a whole host of other behaviors.
The fact that the Republican Party is a criminal enterprise; they have a huge stake in the ‘08 election. If they no longer have the President and the Justice Dept. protecting them, the financial losses and the potential for prosecution and jail time is very real for thousands. These scum will pull every dirty trick and the run-up to the election will be a knife fight in the alley every day.
With that said, I have mentally taken a 180 degree turn and think Hilliary is our best hope. My pick would have been Gore but I think he has made the same assesment and doesn’t have the heart for it. Even after a Democrat wins the election, the Republicans will make Bill’s time in the White House seem like a walk in the park.
Of all the possible candidates, Hillary knows at an emotional level what is going to happen and if anyone has been immunized to fascist attacks, it is Hillary. Hopefully she and Bill will have revenge on their minds and will restore the Rule of Law.
i’m listening to nancy pelosi’s address to israeli’s knesset, now on c-span…. it is so depressing.
she has many good qualities - but this isn’t one of them…. she has given me no reason to trust her when it comes to ME politics.
lolo - Was it a post on dkos?
Muzzy @ 72
They could do it like we do it here at the lake. Couldn’t they hold meetings etc. the way we have the book salon and late-night with TRex. They could pick one of those websites and chat away about anything and who would know?
Very interesting.
This is the website that the Rove/Coptix picture was pulled from:
http://thegidcumbs.com/dblog/archives/000345.php
If you click the link, you will see that it tells the story of a gentleman who happened to be eating in a Chattanooga restaurant when Bush and a bunch of his staff, including Rove, came in to eat.
Keep in mind that Coptix is located in Chattanooga.
So what do we have here?
We have Rove, with Coptix materials, in Chattanooga, the home of Coptix.
We also have Bush, in Chatanooga, contemporaneously, along with other key members of Bush’s staff.
One wonders whether the whole Bush team made a visit to meet with the Coptix crew while they were in town.
Perhaps the Coptix visit was the real reason that they came to town (he was ostensibly there to talk about health care).
Anyway, someone needs to do a grab of the entire page at the link I referenced above, because it tells the story of the encounter at the Chattanooga restaurant, and it has pictures of Bush and others eating at the table with Rove.
One could infer a lot from the fact that a large Bush team was in Chattanooga at the same time, with Rove, and the Coptix materials.
I really do encourage everyone to click through to website that was source for the Rove picture and see if they can connect any dots.
Here’s the link again:
http://thegidcumbs.com/dblog/archives/000345.php
Lou Costello @ 63
I’m afraid this is turning into a maxim, but I hope it is disproved soon.
Mary McCurnin @ 75
New to the lake? I’ve been here since just before the Libby verdict. Its remarkable, huh?
Muzzy @ 72
They’ve been busy consulted AQ on how they do it. Runners are probably the solution.
P J Evans @ 79
Jeez, don’t let Judi Guliani near any.
Somehow, this reminds me of the Austin Lounge Lizards’ tune Shallow End of the Gene Pool
I just listened to the speech selise, and I concur.
;(
Really, I have been here from the beginning. Promise. Commented maybe 50 times.
oh well . . .
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Fitz ask for ALL White House E-mails connected to the leaking of Valerie’s identity as a spy? Fitz didn’t specify E-mails from the WhiteHouse Server. I and any reasonable person can use the reasonable person standared to take that what Fitz meant was ALL E-MAILS sent from or received at the White House regardless of server domain name and all this other stuff I’m not sure I understand. Who ever is in charge of seeing that the WhiteHouse comply with Fitz is in trouble obstruction of justice. I’m betting it was a justice dept lawyer who now faces diabarrment, that and Gonzo has some more explaining to do! Gonzo will say I had nothing to do with it to protect himself. Which leaves the Justice Dept open for a trap! After all if Gonzo didn’t give the order not to turn over all the E-mails who did?
Damn - this is mighty interesting stuff. Great catch, Jane - and great followup information by many about this. I wondered where the photo might be from - it doesn’t look like Rove was necessarily expecting to be photographed (he wasn’t looking his shiny best), but I found the fact that the Coptix document was so obviously displayed a bit suspicious. Unless he’s trying to send Democrats on a wild goose chase, he might be relatively sloppy in not only his appearance that day in Chatanooga, but also his motives.
May karma reach up and bite him in his ass soon - for the good of our country.
Mary McCurnin @ 94
Oops, sorry. Like I said, I’m pretty new. Just chatty.
angie @ 93 -
somehow we’re got to find a way to support israelis that doesn’t require treating the lives and voices of palestinians as less important.
this isn’t a fracking sporting event where we have to pick sides… or worse, a western where we have to identify the black hats and white hats.
we can support israelis WHILE supporting palestinians (and lebanese, …)… indeed, imo, that is really the only way…
tommy yum @ 78
From the Presidential Records Act:
Basically, if it’s official business, it belongs to the United States, not to the president. “Deliberations” are explicitly included. This law doesn’t specify that they use the White House communications and archiving systems (though there may well be other federal regs that do), but at minimum, if gwb43.com isn’t made available to Congress and turned over to the National Archives before Bush leaves office, it’s definitely a violation of the PRA.
No penalties in the PRA itself that I can see. Since this is a post-Nixon law, I find it hard to believe that this would be a “nobody thought an administration would be criminal enough to violate this” situation; maybe it’s part of the chapter of the federal code this is contained in.
gag me with a spoon. I just got this as a “breaking news story” from ABC news
Gee, I guess Shrub and Turdblossom think another pre-emptive war is going to help them cover up their scandals. Oy vey!
For an Irish Catholic girl, I have a lot of yiddish. It’s such a great language.
landofthefree @ 97
Click the links III left for you at # 88 above. Read the story
Eureka Springs @ 61
heh heh - poor Tweedy’s got too much personality and too little substance and stuck inside an adolescent mind, and an incurable and massive Irish/American ego. He ought to study Patrick Fitzgerald and get a clue how a great Irish/American succeeds.
Well I guess I’ve been blogging here for about 6 months when I saw the sundance movie ‘blog wars’. totally awesome.You guys are great.
I’ve seen a few silly links here before..’wink’
but today I would like to submit a link.
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(with a big smile)
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Tweedy is, after all, a bird.
lolo @ 87
Oooh, I hope they do! They’d have to communicate to each other where to meet, and considering the technical competence of the Bushies, it probably wouldn’t occur to them that such a thing could be traced. Then after a subpoena of Google caches, they’d be in the position of Ollie North’s crowd after they learned about email backups the hard way.
Or to put it in non-technical terms, they’ve got three choices:
1. Don’t use any form of written communication, which will make it damn hard to keep their lies straight.
2. Hire someone technically competent to set up a secure system for them, which will make it utterly obvious that they’re conspiring to evade archiving regs and congressional oversight.
3. Be clever and try to do something on their own that will be off the books, and end up making it look like they’re conspiring and that they’re idiots.