
(Yes, I am aware that the WVU Mountaineer statue has nothing whatsoever to do with this post. But I'm still a little giddy over our NIT tourney win from last night, and I couldn't help posting a little celebratory photo. Go, 'Eers! Apologies in advance to any of our readers who are Clemson grads...)
NOTE: I will be on Air America talking with Thom Hartmann today around 1:40-ish pm ET.
Via Digby, I found this op-ed in the LATimes from yesterday that clamors for reading and discussion. It was written by the former head of the civil rights division at the DoJ, and it is a refrain that I have heard over and over again from current and former civil servants who continuously bump up against the Bush Administration's demands for fealty over any adherence to the rule of law. From the LATimes:
This pattern also extended to hiring. In March 2006, Bradley Schlozman was appointed interim U.S. attorney in Kansas City, Mo. Two weeks earlier, the administration was granted the authority to make such indefinite appointments without Senate confirmation. That was too bad: A Senate hearing might have uncovered Schlozman's central role in politicizing the civil rights division during his three-year tenure.Schlozman, for instance, was part of the team of political appointees that approved then-House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's plan to redraw congressional districts in Texas, which in 2004 increased the number of Republicans elected to the House. Similarly, Schlozman was acting assistant attorney general in charge of the division when the Justice Department OKd a Georgia law requiring voters to show photo IDs at the polls. These decisions went against the recommendations of career staff, who asserted that such rulings discriminated against minority voters. The warnings were prescient: Both proposals were struck down by federal courts.
Schlozman continued to influence elections as an interim U.S. attorney. Missouri had one of the closest Senate races in the country last November, and a week before the election, Schlozman brought four voter fraud indictments against members of an organization representing poor and minority people. This blatantly contradicted the department's long-standing policy to wait until after an election to bring such indictments because a federal criminal investigation might affect the outcome of the vote. The timing of the Missouri indictments could not have made the administration's aims more transparent.
This administration is also politicizing the career staff of the Justice Department. Outright hostility to career employees who disagreed with the political appointees was evident early on. Seven career managers were removed in the civil rights division. I personally was ordered to change performance evaluations of several attorneys under my supervision. I was told to include critical comments about those whose recommendations ran counter to the political will of the administration and to improve evaluations of those who were politically favored.
Morale plummeted, resulting in an alarming exodus of career attorneys. In the last two years, 55% to 60% of attorneys in the voting section have transferred to other departments or left the Justice Department entirely.
The laws of this nation are not meant to be enforced for political expediency and to win elections. The courts do not exist to serve "Rove's shop" and "the math," and yet that is exactly how the Bush Administration has seen them from the time they entered office. A commitment to the "Rule of Bush, And Bush Alone" is not the same as advancing the interests of justice and honoring the rule of law, it simply is not.
I keep thinking back to the GOP opposition to the renewal of the Voting Rights Act, the voter ID law shenanigans, and so many other instances over the last few years that I have lost count. These were designed, in so many ways, to game the system for political advantage, regardless of the fact that it was an unethical perversion of the laws, their intent, and an overall attempt to thwart the sacred right of citizens in this nation to cast their own votes for their own political representation.
And I keep going back to "A Republic, if you can keep it," and wondering what else I should be doing to ensure that we do just that.
Will Thomas at The Muck caught a bit in a NYTimes article that I missed in yesterday's frenzy over the Sampson hearing -- but it is VERY important and deserves a lot more scrutiny in the days ahead. And it serves as a glaring example of why public testimony under oath is not only a good idea in terms of public scrutiny, but exactly why such disinfectant is needed in the first place. From the NYTimes:
...The group meets in the Roosevelt Room and includes aides to the White House counsel, the chief of staff, the attorney general and Karl Rove, who also sometimes attends himself. Each of them signs off on every nomination.Mr. Rove, a top adviser to the president, takes charge of the politics. As caretaker to the administration’s conservative allies, Mr. Rove relays their concerns, according to several participants in the Wednesday meetings. And especially for appointments of United States attorneys, he manages the horse trading....
Political advisers have had a hand in picking judges and prosecutors for decades, but Mr. Rove exercises unusually broad influence over political, policy and personnel decisions because of his closeness to the president, tenure in the administration and longstanding interest in turning the judiciary to the right.
In Illinois, Mr. Rove once reprimanded a Republican senator for recommending the appointment of Patrick J. Fitzgerald, a star prosecutor from outside the state, to investigate the state’s then-governor, a Republican. In New Jersey, Mr. Rove helped arrange the nomination of a major Bush campaign fund-raiser who had little prosecutorial experience. In Louisiana, he first supported and then helped scuttle a similar appointment....
Absolutely there are going to be political considerations involved in any appointment by a political branch for any appointee who works in the judiciary. That is absolutely true -- and ought to be, because elections do have consequences.
But when those appointments are made not to advance the interests of justice and fairness and for the betterment of the communities that those people serve and the nation at large but, rather, to advance a particularly narrow agenda of getting more Republicans elected across the board at the state, local and national levels by gaming the system and pushing political considerations in prosecutions above all else? That is just wrong. It would be wrong for Democrats to do it as much as Republicans -- because the judiciary is not to be used as a political bait and switch, or to provide cover for scurrilous, and otherwise illegal, plans all dressed up as prosecutorial initiatives. It is too important that the rule of law be followed for the sake of continuity and even-handed, blind application of justice.
Frankly, it is no wonder that Kyle Sampson did not recognize a distinction between politicization and performance assessments, because the Bush Administration makes no distinction other than "helpful to our agenda or not." And their agenda, as driven by Rove's insatiable appetite for collecting power chits is as follows: win at any cost. That the cost is the taint of our democracy and the undermining of the rule of law is apparently of no consequence, and that is profoundly disturbing -- and an argument for more and more Congressional oversight, if I ever saw one.
I have said this before, but it bears repeating: the Rule of Karl must end. For all of our sakes. He is a one-man, malignant, festering boil that threatens to overtake the entire political system in this nation by turning it into an enormous cheating sinkhole. And that is just plain wrong. (And the fact that all of his minions have these convenient cases of "Rovenesia" whenever they are called to account is truly the last straw for me. H/T to reader "WB" for that one.)
So I am asking you, for the sake of our nation, to stand up today and say "Enough!"
If there is a lesson in all of this it is that our Constitution is neither a self-actuating nor a self-correcting document. It requires the constant attention and devotion of all citizens. There is a story, often told, that upon exiting the Constitutional Convention Benjamin Franklin was approached by a group of citizens asking what sort of government the delegates had created. His answer was: "A republic, if you can keep it." The brevity of that response should not cause us to under-value its essential meaning: democratic republics are not merely founded upon the consent of the people, they are also absolutely dependent upon the active and informed involvement of the people for their continued good health.
Stand up today and be counted. Send a letter to the editor to your local paper. Call into a local talk radio show. Call or fax your elected representatives and tell them how you are feeling about these issues. Talk with your co-workers or family or friends. Reach out beyond the usual bloggy hangouts, and do something to advance the notion that in this nation of ours, whatever change we wish to see is up to all of us. Every single day. And, I don't know about you guys, but I have damn well had enough.
Now, let's get to work.
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Christy!
Yesterday I heard an interesting stat from Randi Rhodes …. that there are 150 graduates from Pat Robertsons law school in the Bush Administration.
My question….. Does any other so called university have as many graduates within the Bush Administration?
Does this law school have legal ethics classes?
Redd!
Makes me weep, Christy.
So government “small enough to drown in a bathtub” was just another lie?
katymine @ 2
Yeah, its called the Book of Proverbs.
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) — Radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr made a scathing attack on the United States in a statement issued Friday, blaming it for Iraq’s woes and calling for a mass demonstration April 9 to mark the fourth anniversary of Baghdad’s fall.
The statement was the first by al-Sadr since March 14 when he called on his supporters to resist U.S. forces in Iraq through peaceful means. Al-Sadr has been said by U.S. and Iraqi officials to be in neighboring Iran. His aides insist he is still in Iraq.
Has the boil been served his papers yet?
I want that weasel under oath and under guard.
Can this lack of qualified attorneys help explain the lack of terrorism convictions by the DOJ.
the one in Georgia by a Reagan judicial appointee - imagine how legally rank your crap must be
My question, and I think it’s one of the money questions, is when will the Republican money elite — the bankers, the CEO’s that actually manage, like Paul O’Neil, the lawyers who are not in thrall to K-street — come out hard against Rove. They have an interest in honest government that transcends their Republican loyalty, and they are higher on the pecking order than your neighborhood gauleiter car dealer. I would imagine that the WSJ will send the signal when it’s time for Rove to go. So far it’s holding firm.
I never thought the term fealty would enter the modern political lexicon. That is how far we have regressed in six years.
Sharon @
5
It wasn’t a lie..it just depends what your definition of government is. Bush is Reagan’s legacy. Small government in Republican dog whistle means elimination of social programs, elimination of oversight such as food inspection, financial regulation etc. The second part of Republican small government is massive corporate welfare and “privatization” of normal govt functions in-order to siphon more tax dollars to your friends.
Yeppers
Pectopah at 9 — I don’t know about that, but it certainly can’t help for the Bush Administration to have run out a huge number of very qualified attorneys because they wanted to adhere to the rule of law and/or marginalizing the very skilled trial attorneys that had worked those sorts of cases whose experience is an invaluable resource. When you put ass-kissing toady abilities at the top of your promotions list of values, you don’t exactly get the highest caliber folks in positions where you desperately need them. (And that isn’t to say that there aren’t highly skilled attorneys trying to do thse jobs, they are just hamstrung in what they are and are not allowed to do by political appointees who are put in to be their “minders,” to be certain that no politicaly damaging information gets out to the public among other things, which can severely undermine a case, depending on the minder.)
I take it there are no hearings today - and a good thing too - maybe I’ll get some billable hours in today.
Sorry for being slow to respond and being “off topic” here with this post. I lik eto think about letters before posting them and this one when this morning. Hopefully, as we follow this blog down the yellow-brick road to sentencing in the Scooter trial others will share their letters to Judge Walden.
What caused me to write was how angry I became thinking that the charector references sought by Libby’s lawyer would only worsen Scooter’s crimes as they would be further proof of how he betrayed the trust of his friends and colleagues and admirers and the trust of us all in the notion that GOP or Dems, these are people trying to do the right thing on behalf of us all. What scum he is!!
Judge Reggie B. Walton
United States District Court for the District of Columbia
E. Berrell Prettyman United States Courthouse
333 Constitution Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20001
March 30, 2007
Dear Judge Walton:
I write to ask that you sentence I. “Scooter” Libby to the toughest sentences you feel are warranted when an officer of the court and an assistant to the President and Vice President of the United States of America is convicted on several counts of perjury and obstruction of justice for lying under oath to Federal Bureau of Investigation officers and a federal grand jury in a matter related to the disclosure of the identity of a covert agent of the Central Intelligence Agency during a time of war.
The message sent by this man’s actions and the posturing of his cronies that Mr. Libby has been convicted wrongfully for innocent misstatements, at most legal technicalities, is an appalling approval of outrageous behavior that undermines the justice system and undermines faith in government.
I ask that you send a very strong message that the crimes committed are indeed serious and were committed by learned counsel placed in positions of extreme trust.
Sincerely,
The Danger of Falling for “The Plan” II
(Schlepped over from the previous thread, but still seems on point)
..is having “Gonzo has to go” built up to such a crescendo, that when it is done, this will all be over..
Our Naked Emperor (ONE) is clearly building Gonzo up to be the “High Value” target, so that when he is forced to fall on his sword, that is the final head… Rove-Sputin lives to soil on our country for another day.
I certainly hope you are right. But, I don’t hold the average Congress-person is very high regard, intelligence wise.
The audience is the most important aspect of a political fight. They need to be nurtured to have and epiphany. For example; I was much more impressed how Waxman handled his hearing on Wed, than the “less-than-theatrical” Senators yesterday. The audience must be brought along.
The media - whom it does no good to slam in the short run - was dead on Waxman’s which was the more effective hearing, audience-wise.
I’m of dubious nature with almost all politicians.
A republic, if you can keep it.
That is worth a bumper sticker. It bears oft repeating.
OT Senator Leahy on Meet the Press this Sunday.
Yes, can spell “Walton.” No, I can’t figure out how to edit something I posted.
imo, there’s a fundamental principle that seems to have gotten lost.
it goes way beyond the idea of “the rule of law”…. because, we can (and should) all argue about what the rules ought to be (legal, moral,…) - but there is something we ALL need to get straight first…. and that is that whatever the rules are, we agree that they cover everyone in the same way (us and people we think of as our enemies). there is not a different set of rules for different people.
have we completely lost the ideal of “blind justice”?
i ask this, because every time i’ve gotten into a deep conversation about a disagreement wrt political/legal/moral right & wrong (from invading a country that hasn’t threatened us, or using torture to fair elections)… what it has always come down to is that we (or our friends) ought not to be subject to the same set of rules we apply to our enemies.
this is a big problem… and i haven’t found a good way to address it (other than calling it to the person’s attention).
hychka @ 17
Nice succint letter, but I ran out of breath reading the opening sentence. Add some punctuation and periods.
Great post, CHS.
Your comparison of Rove to a festering boil on the body politic is so very appropriate.
That’s why the WH Correspondents’ Dinner vid is something I can’t watch even to make fun of it. Rove & Bush don’t just bring to mind Nero anymore- it’s more like Caligula & his horse…
Christy, I had no idea you were a Mountaineer. I am a Mississippi State Bulldog. One of those left crumpled on the floor after Tuesday night’s buzzer-beating loss to your WV team. It was a great game though. Games like that are why I LOVE college sports!
Anyway . . . congratulations on the NIT title. You guys have a great and deserving team and really nice fans. We played host to them in Starkville this past football season and they were really nice folks. Hope I get to come to WV this fall for the game.
We now know that this administration has:
-purged minority voters from the rolls
-used the DOJ to influence elections
-used redistricting to ensure more repubs
-(maybe) rigged the voting machines
-phone jammed in New Hampshire
My fear…..what don’t we know
OT..”1984″ is alive and well..we have always been at war with Oceana>
Google has now gone back to pre-Katrina maps of New Orleans on it Google Earth web-site.
link
I think we lost the concept of blind justice when Ashcroft put that stupid drape on the statue to cover her boobs…. We should of got the message then.
Insights Christy! Fascism brewing! 2000 Supreme Court Judicial Coup…a Presidential Selection! Will we ever recover? Iraq will not!
Today in the New york Times article “Ex-Aide Disputes Gonzales stand over Dismissals” Lipton and Johnston report “But Mr. Sampson said that shortly before the November 2006 election, Mr.Rove complained to Mr. Gonzales about Mr. Iglesias and TWO OTHER PROSECUTORS - Mr. Sampson did not identify them.”
Will we ever know who the TWO OTHER PROSECUTORS were?
Thanks Christy for the post and the incentive to roll up sleeves and dig in.
hychka @ 17
Perfect sentiments! Amazingly perfect! Yayy! Right ON! Please send it, like I did my own! Thanks.
Good News from TPM:
House Dems to Question DoJ Officials in Private
tpm link
Maybe Conyers (D-MI) has “juevos” brains and the appreciation of how to bring the audience along to an epiphany - THE NAME OF THE GAME, IMNSHO
katymine @ 28
well, i never thought that aschoft was a believer in blind justice… it’s just surprised me how our culture has rejected that principle - and i don’t claim not to have been affected, there are so many counter messages it’s hard not to be affected.
Christy,
After listening yesterday with incredulity, I awoke this morning to the sudden recognition (!) that most of the ideals I cherish as an American, in fact most of my identity as an American, springs directly from my belief in the Constitution, my acceptance of the Rule of Law, and my respect for the principles of Justice and Equality Before the Law.
I have idealized those whom I entrust to protect and defend the Law, thinking that they share with me, above all other differences, the same respect and commitment.
This morning I awoke to the sad realization that malicious, venal, pathetic, incompetent, and cowardly fools have risen to the top, even in the Department of Justice, and for the first time in my life I felt real fear for my own government.
This is serious business, indeed, and one can only hope that there are enough people of conscience and good intentions left that we can keep our republic.
Remember, there are 150 Regent University (Pat Robertson’s University) graduates in the Bush Administration….maybe one less when Monica Goodling “resigns”. And how many Pat Robertson graduates of the School of Communications and Law school are trolling around TV Stations, radio, newspaper, magazines, movie studios etc. These “Christian Madrassa” desciples are wending their way thru our media. And we can’t forget the Oral Roberts (ORU) people and the Falwell Liberty U. nuts. These people are flying under our radar. I would like someone to cull the graduates of these schools with our media and government. Just how pervasive is this problem?
KO reported last night that when AGAG was in Chicago the other day, he met with 6 US Attorneys who read him the riot act and told him the firings and subsequent chaos was hurting morale. They told him they were worried about their OWN jobs. IIRC from the pics of the preceding newsconference, Fitz was sitting right beside AGAG on Wednesday. How much you wanna bet he gave AGAG an earful? After all, he very nearly got the axe. Wouldn’t you like to have been a fly on that wall?
And is there a mole in Fitz’s office passing timely information to Rove?
Would anyone be surprised?
There are a few thousand grok boxes in the field at the present time, and one of the projects I’ll be working on gathering some of the owners into the Heart Chat environment.
It’s going to be quite interesting to see the effect of hearts around the world ’singing’ in unison. It will be paradigm shifting to say the least as it grows.
The main experiment, it seems to me is what happens when linked hearts in various places, focus their collective attention/compassion on a matter of importance.
Ya see I got a different perspective on the problems facing us:
The only way to defeat The Borg, is to become Q.
hychka @ 17
Thanks for reminding us! Folks should spread the word. Reggie will be swamped with letters from the peasants seeking justice and truth!
Thanks again for the reminder.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 15
I suppose the real answer is, no terrorism convictions because it was hyped anyway.
Still, the meme that they are compromising our nation’s security for political hackery should be broadcast louder, especially when the DOJ should be the front lines of the “Wore on Terra”. It is FEMA redux.
Bush just reiterated his support for Alberto. Remember, he still stands by Libby, so this shouldn’t really be a surprise.
As for ones he dumped - Ken Lay/Abramoff - who knows. I guess even his loyalty to incompetence and lies has its limits.
Puesto @ 32
I dunno about anyone else, but I dislike the notion of doing ANY sort of inquiry of this nature behind closed doors. While Conyers’ record as a progressive is sterling and perhaps I should cut him some slack in this case, it still sounds like a “blink” on his part… correct me if I’m wrong here, ‘pups…
You know what’s crazy?
We sat here yesterday, glued to our CSPAN3, as we watched our Senators questioning either a foot soldier or an underboss about the identity of a capo di tutti capi.
The racket they were uncovering was one that obstructs justice, suppresses voters as a protective measure; the portion of the same racket they investigated the day before was another underboss who worked on protective measures related to skewing the vote.
It’s our republic, if we can pry it out of the fingers of these criminals who’ve stolen it.
Great post.
I have had enough - but at times, I find the fight overwhelming. It amazes me the lengths to which the Loyal Bushies have gone to politicize parts of our government that have no business being driven by partisan politics. Long gone are the days when I thought that they would show some sense of respect for the constitution and for the traditions of our nation. It is painfully obvious that their primary goal has been to radically restructure our government for long-term domination by their ideologues.
It makes me think of a particularly wealthy businesman who is very religious and conservative. He is putting millions into programs that will draw high net-worth conservative Catholics who are dedicated to “social change”. The goal is to indoctrinate as many wealthy business leaders, lawyers, judges, and politicians into one movement that can significantly alter the political, legal and businessworlds to support their religious beliefs. Perhaps this might be troubling, but it is certainly legitimate in the private sector. To try and get people with like minds into leadership positions to try and create social change in line with their beliefs is okay, as long as their actions are both legal and ethical.
However, what the neocon crowd has done is to step way, way over the line of what is both legal and ethical. To radically change laws and functions of government to fit their long-term political goals is abhorrent. The notion of anyone restructuring our government in order to create a perpetual self-supporting organization for a particular political ideology is frightening. And, to do all of this under the guise of “patriotism” is the height of hypocricy.
Too many people in the neocon cabal have been exhibiting cult-like behavior.
I wonder what teenagers today think about the government? I remember as a kid, one of the most important things we were taught to be proud about was that our government always functioned with some sense of ethics. Those who exhibited egregious unethical behavior were almost always found and held accountable. There were lines that just were not crossed - one couldn’t imagine a President politicizing departments like the GSA, DOJ, and others to get them to further support their party above the rule of law.
I’m hopeful that as these scandals continue to be unearthed, more of the cult supporters will wake up and realize that the neocons actions can not be justified by anyone who has any sense of patriotism.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....v=hcmodule
portia.vz @ 36
I’ll bet AGAG intentionally sat near Fitz to bolster his image by being seen close to a popular USA. Like Bush standing in front of the troops.
Kathleen @ 38
Thanks again for the reminder.
Could someone pls post the URL of the FDL thread some days back, where many of our letters to Judge Walton about sentencing Libby, some serious and (others mostly) funny, were posted? There were some good (serious) ideas in there which might be plagiarizable :) :)
Rayne -
left you a note downstairs
Sparkles at 44 — The sad thing is that Ms. Doan apparently doesn’t realize that they’d have access to her fingerprints if they needed them anyway — because she would have likely had to file them with the FBI for her background check.
OT, re: Roots Project beta site
If you set up your account and start posting some of your own content to your own blog there, Matt Browner Hamlin and I will be looking daily for original material generated by the community to promote to the front page. You’ll also WIN FREE STUFF.
Well, maybe not, but anyway, it’s next generation Internets that we’re building, and you can be a a part of it. Check it out.
Pectopah @ 45
… and both look pitifully shrunken and mendacious in comparison (though they both don’t realize it)
BwahaHAA (except that the joke is on us)
S.O.S. from MA @ 41
I dunno about anyone else, but I dislike the notion of doing ANY sort of inquiry of this nature behind closed doors. While Conyers’ record as a progressive is sterling and perhaps I should cut him some slack in this case, it still sounds like a “blink” on his part… correct me if I’m wrong here, ‘pups…
Check out the article. He is going to get a transcript, within which lies can be prosecuted. The prosecution of which can then be public.
Secondly; There is nothing which says the Senate can’t subpoena off some of the tidbits. One of the problems yesterday, and on this whole issue, for that matter, is the audience needs, quick sound-bites and small doses of red meat. I know, I know, I don’t like it either. BUT, the audience is the reality. Bring ‘em along to an epiphany is the goal.
My girlfriend was just asked to give a reference for a friend and colleague for a job at an NPR show. One of the questions the person hiring asked was whether her friend was willing to stand up to his bosses; that it was important that a person in the job being filled be able to disagree with his/her superiors if that was the right thing to do.
When I was working in corporate America, I always encouraged people to ask questions, and the more they knew, the better the questions and challenges to directions I was taking. In the end, that made my department stronger - by being willing to stand up to me, they’d also stand up to higher-ups in the company when they were challenged.
It’s clear that the first rule of this administration is to hire sycophantic drones, so instead of coming to good policies through robust debates, they come to terrible policies through the lens of wingnut politics. And, if they screw up and bring someone in with brains and a spine, they are shown the door ASAP.
Every few months I link to this, but it’s worth a review. Bush ran, among other things, as a business man (perhaps “bidnessman” - I can’t remember), but other than the time he used eminent domain to grab the land near Arlington Stadium, he has been a colossal failure. So none of his management failures should surprise anyone. In this piece by Kevin Drum, it’s laid out for all to see.
What I’d add is that Bush is sure he’s right, and Rove feeds that mania to make sure that all of the “policy” (read: wingnut feeding) conforms to their divisive, and now failed, strategy of getting the narrowest majority possible.
In short, Christy is right (what else is new), but it’s only because Buish himself is so inept and psychologically damaged that he can get away with it.
cbl @
14
I keep wondering that, especially since KSM’s “confession”. What if, instead of shuttling him through a bunch of black sites and then taking him to Guantanamo, we had simply brought him back here and turned him over to the FBI? What if, instead of having him “confess” in a closed tribunal in Cuba, he was tried in open court by a highly-competent US Attorney (Patrick Fitzgerald would do nicely.)? Wouldn’t that have looked so much better for us?
regarding hearings: Conyers is having closed-door but transcripted hearings today with McNulty, and perhaps others in his list of “interviews” (get more info here).
While some might find the notion of closed-door testimony revolting, I am actually encouraged by this bold move by Conyers. He’s trying to get people on record quickly, before they have time to get their stories straight. By keeping the testimony private, they may unearth some information that wouldn’t have been ferretted out if the public testimony were reviewed by future interviewees. Conyers may find a smoking gun before “Rove’s Shop” can get to it.
cbl @ 47
At (187)? Yup, we were on the same wavelength.
I said more than 2 years ago I thought this was a RICO outfit at which we were looking. Testimony the last two days has rather clinched it for me.
Pectopah @ 45
I kind of doubt that Fitz said anything at all. He doesn’t usually speak if he doesn’t have to, and he didn’t really have anything new to add to that discussion.
Pectopah @ 39
Quality above party politics FITZ AND MCNULTY. i just hope that McNulty’s investigation of Rosen and A^I*P*A*C is not side-swiped by this AG scandal!
Question:
When Fitz closed his statements after the Libby trial saying that the investigation is closed unless new information comes forward.
Just what did he mean? Who was this bait for?
Question: Why do Kristol, Lowry, Frum want Gonzales gone?
landofthefree @ 54
Interesting and comforting analysis, land. TYVM!
PS — C U over in GabblyLand sometime LOL
Mutant Poodle @ 52
Yeah, whacky, isn’t it, that a country that was so sold on a CEO president never bothered to check the man’s resume?
There’s no way I would have hired the guy to be a dogcatcher, let alone run the largest economy in the world.
landofthefree @ 54
I think it’s a good move, too. Closed-door testimony means they can’t watch each other on CSPAN to make sure they all remember to forget the same things.
landofthefree @ 54
I guess it’s easy to get negative, but I fear “Rove’s shop” - Zampoliti - has already cleaned up the mess. He reminds me of the “Fixer” in “Pulp Fiction.” He moves lightening fast, and is very thorough. His boy Sampson showed us that yesterday.
And, like a good little Fundy-bot, he was falling on his sword with zealous aplomb!
Alice B @ 35
Each and every one of these 150 people - starting with monica - should become the subject of investigation by netroots people
it’s important to establish who they are, where they are, and then conjecture all the intersecting ties that bind
what’s important here, I think, is to ferret out where the repubs are trying to go in the future
these folks are their future - we NEED to KNOW more
someone should set up a database - or a wiki article
Hiding in Plain Sight -
Mr. Sampson played Rove’s game yesterday, to no one’s surprise on this blog, but probably much to Mr. Gonzales’ chagrin.
Like other administration figures and their supporters lately, Sampson admitted how they think when he claimed that the distinction between politics and professionalism was “artificial”. Put another way, it is professional to be partisan. What’s the big deal? “Everybody does it.”
I wonder if Mr. Orwell ever imagined he would be an icon, rather than the bane, of Presidential wordsmiths.
Latest from NM is that the long-awaited indictments have been handed down in the case that Igleasias was hounded over.
Perhaps we will find out what took so long, several pleas were made, maybe they needed the pleas/flips to bring the charges.
I like the shock ‘n awe of Democratic oversight.
Incoming!!!
o/t
you don’t have to attend Ave Maria Law School to be a loyal bushie - this one went to Duke !
shouldn’t we just call him ‘Mother Josh’ :)
S.O.S. @ 41, how does the questioning in private of DOJ officials satisfy the peoples’ right to know? I read the article with disgust. I doubt Representative Sanchez went along with this and hope Speaker Pelosi did not.
Sally and others -
Congressman Conyers meeting today will be on the record
Wouldn’t this require recognition we are all the same - w/o/r/t ethnic, cultural, religious, societal, sexual etc. differences.
Ya know, like maybe we are all human beings living on a single planet?
landofthefree @ 54
i’m not sure… will the transcripts ever become public? i, for one, want to know…. the lack of transparency does not reassure me.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17868754/
loyalty only holds up until the lies are exposed…
Great post Christy and Scarecrow’s earlier one was fantastic, too!
Puesto @ 61
You’re kidding, right? Sampson called Gonzales a liar on live television. He further inflamed the AUSAs by saying they were fired for poor performance, which is what started this whole mess to begin with. If that’s what a cleaned-up mess looks like, you need a new fixer.
Rayne @ 55
IANAL, but CHS, LHP — is there any way RICO could be applied to the activities of the Republican party?
Personally, I wonder how on Earth Fitz resisted the urge to bitchslap Gonzo and stomp on him a few times for good measure.
Puesto @ 61
But what bugged ME most of all, and I was shouting it to the screen, was “WHY DON’T YOU DOZY DEMOCRATS ASK HIM ABOUT HIS NEW GONZO-GRANTED JOB STILL WITHIN THE DoJ [ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/.....s-sampson/ ] AND WHAT DOES IT PAY AND WHAT DID YOU HAVE TO SWEAR TO THEM THAT YOU’D FORGET IN ORDER TO KEEP IT??” But no one did. I call bullshit on THAT. Well, maybe soon someone will.
PS — pls pardon the SHOUTing but I was :)
Link to emptywheel’s post & the thread of “letters” to Reggie Walton: Letters, we’ve got letters!
I guess I’m confused as to whether it makes sense for people like us to write letters to Judge Walton about Scooter’s sentence. We don’t personally know him nor the victims of his crimes. While it’s true that *justice* was a victim, it seems like letters from dozens of people not directly connected to the case may not be useful to the Judge.
I’d rather spend some time writing LTEs about this case, about the politicising of our government, etcetera to our local papers. I think this is one way we can make more of an impact in protecting our republic.
Sally @ 66
Let it go for now. The transcripts of all of the relevant answers will probably be printed in the indictments.
landofthefree @ 75
Um, we ARE the victims of his crimes.
landofthefree — I think you are correct that getting McNulty, especially, on the record in a transcript, before he has the time to get his story synched with “Rove’s shop” is a good idea. I just wonder if, indeed, this is going to be quick enough. But I do know this: Conyers and his staff have been working their butts off on this issue and, likely, have a few items of particular interest to discuss with Mr. McNulty. And, if there is a transcript, it will eventually be made public, if not immediately — and I know nothing about how they are going to time this, but Congressional investigations generally require public documents for scrutiny, unless they are dealing with sensitive national security matters. Politicizing the DoJ? Not a reason to close off a transcript.
I’m just wondering when or if an investigation of the charges made by Sharon Eubanks, re: the cigarette case. I’m sure she didn’t make those charges just to hear herself talk, yet it seems to have become only a one day story. This was gross abuse of power and meddling in a case before the law to the detriment of the citizens of this country. I think they could actually get full blown charges out of an investigation of what happened, so when? Who? Why haven’t we heard more about this? Is there something quite kosher and not at all extraordinary about a prosecutor who is given a closing statement written by someone else and told to read it verbatim? And is it not unusual for a prosecutor to be asked to have your witnesses soften their testimony? WTF?
Are folks reading or hearing anything in the MSM about Grassleys (sp?) disappearance? Is Rove holding him in an undisclosed location? His loyalties being questioned? Is he being sent to Guantanamo or being offered something he can not refuse?
Beautiful post, Christy.
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Sally @ 66
Beware the ever elusive knock-out blow. Bringing the audience along toward an epiphany is the goal.
The opposition can use your efforts at the “knock-out blow” to make you look stupid, and like you are “shadow boxing.”
These discussions in private will have transcripts, and what is said is “presecutable.”
Then, sound-bites can be pulled out and prosecuted in public to give the audience a more focused target. Short and sweet steak in the heart. The audience likes blood. Not bureaucrat-speak word fights.
I’m gonna repeat something I said at greater length in a previous thread. Voter participation is an apple pie and motherhood kind of issue. Every election year we read editorials decrying the american turnout rate. I think it’s time to start pointing out that one reason the US has relatively low voter turnout is because one of our parties works actively to keep turnout low, from negative advertising to opposition of reform to outright election day suppression efforts.
I think this is something worth routinely connecting–republicans are opposed to encouraging citizen participation in elections.
We can, if we want to add a positive message to such a connection, decide on a reform measure that we prefer, like 24 hour polls, or Saturday voting or voting by mail. But every American should know that republicans don’t want high turnout elections, and work hard to keep them from happening.
It doesn’t take much in the way of qualifications to mull over torture statements until they give you the one you want, classify anything else including the torture techniques, then round up people for shipment to Syrian or Egypt or our own black holes for torture, and to be stuck for years in Afghan and Iraq detention facilities, or to have the Department of Justice round up and disappear American citizens into military abuse for years.
You need qualified lawyers to do competent investigation, compile credible facts and put together coherent strategies.
When you go to war against decency, humane treatment, justice and most of all - a war against truth - competent lawyers, like judges with integrity, are counterproductive