Login HereWhile we are distracted by the excitement of Alberto Gonzales' imminent resignation, and the upcoming Constitutional Showdown™, we must never forget that AL GORE STILL LIVES! And he is determined to sacrifice all human wealth and industry upon his mad green altar of trees and electric cars! People, it is not too late - if we rise up now, we may yet be able to stop him before we are completely overrun by glaciers and polar bears and oxygen!
Okay, I admit it, I've been buying up land in Western Pennsylvania, and when it becomes beachfront property, I will be rich. The question is, will Al Gore be better able to thwart my nefarious plan from inside the White House, or out on the lecture circuit? Is it more important for him to be personally pushing for reform, or building popular demand for it? Are they necessarily exclusive?
Some tidbits from today's hearings:
- TPM Election Central has a clip of Gore's testimony today - apparently we need more cowbell and less denial.
- John Dingell called Gore "Mr. President."
- Kit Bond actually suggested that global warming might be caused by... sunspots. Even Denny Hastert knows better.
- James Inhofe is a massive, dishonest tool.
- Barbara Boxer does not suffer tools gladly (unless they possess Joe Lieberman's raw sexual magnetism):
Hitting a note that some of the vice president’s critics have sounded in recent weeks — the size and energy-consuming properties of his new home in Tennessee, Senator Inhofe sought to exact a pledge from Mr. Gore to cut electricity use so that his mansion outside Nashville used no more than the average American home within a year.This set off a verbal jousting match with both Mr. Gore and Senator Barbara Boxer, the committee chairwoman.
The chairman turned to Mr. Inhofe and said, “I want to talk to you a minute.” She went on, “Will you agree to let the vice president answer your questions?” As the Oklahoma senator argued back, she made a tart reference to the change in power in the Senate, saying:, “You’re not making the rules. You used to when you did this” — here she waved her gavel — “but you don’t do this any more.”
She can wave her gavel at me any time.
Feel free to use this thread to speculate about what Karl Rove responses to the USA purge list might have fallen into the gap. I'm thinking it'd be stuff along the lines of, "This is great - Dusty and Brent will breathe much easier. Hey, how about this great weather we're having?"
UPDATE: C-SPAN has video of the climate hearings on their website (RealMedia format). Thanks to angie for indirectly prodding me to look.
UPDATE II: YouTube also has a video, in case the C-SPAN one goes away. (h/t RedShift)
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Al Gore!
I, for one, welcome our Mighty Moon Worm-riding overlord.
Random thought: If Karl is Bush’s brain, and if Karl is Turd Blossom, doesn’t that make Bush Shit-for-brains?
Jean2k @ 3
No, his shit for brains makes him Shit-For-Brains.
Al Gore in 2008 - Accept No Substitutes
My husband made a bumper sticker a while ago that reads, “When we said we wanted gore, we meant Al Gore!”
Love the Futurama video. Did I hear that his daughter writes for that?
She should have spanked him with that thing.
How do they manage to be each one more detestable than the last.
I’d vote for Al. Again.
I will NEVER vote for Hillary Lieberman.
inmymind’seye @ 7
They practice a *lot*.
From 2 threads back, I can’t take another ___gate. I have suggested OFUS for Operation Fuck the US. Comments?
Renee in Ohio @ 6
Al Gore is a very good sport. And very charismatic and funny when he’s just being himself.
Al Gore was magnificent today and I am sincerely hoping that this President will be our next leader.
Barbara Boxer smacked Inhofe up side the head (he was insufferable) and whiny, “woe is my folks” Kit Bond and the rest of the nucular and denying thugs were disgusting.
Thanks Eli.
If anyone has the occasion to watch Mr. Gore’s opening statement to the Senate, please do yourself the favor.
The tart reference by Ms. Boxer was: elections have consequences and I make the rules now.
Senator I’m a Hole needs his hole-tubes tied.
The spanking would only arouse him.
I have to throw up now.
M’self, I think Boxer should have hit him over the head with that gavel. But, then, she’d have to shove it up his ass first to do that….
Jean2k @
3
Doesn’t look like a “random” thought at all — more like an example of straightforward logic.
(And I wish I’d thought of that.)
i’m watching cable at work and cnn is picking al gore and global warming apart right now.
i am so glad i’m not paying for cable.
cable is evil.
this country is in the crapper.
i am so sad.
maybe i’ll take the hatchet to my car.
angie @
12
angie - do you have a link?
angie @ 12
Is there video online anywhere, or was it on CSPAN? I made a quick search, but didn’t see anything (hey, maybe I should check C-SPAN’s website, eh?).
Angie - from the last thread: yes! Goode has got to go. Too bad I don’t live where I could vote him out though!
So do I, when I remember to do so.
It is a point of pride with me that, in the past seven years, the number of times that I have knowingly and willingly referred to the current White House occupant as “President Bush” can be counted on the fingers of one hand.
inmymind’seye @
18
I just updated the post with one. C-SPAN, of course.
squirrel hiller @
17
That’s why I want to emigrate to New Zealand. Fuck this shithole.
One of the questions i keep asking is, “are the people of the US WORTH saving?”
I look at places like this and I wonder if there are enough people with enough brains worth saving, and increasingly, the answer is a resounding no.
If the nation and its people are not worth saving, what’s the point of all this? Let the folks linked above have the shithole. They deserve it.
you can catch all of Gore tonight on cspan1 @ 1110 or go to the archives under “recent programs” and watch it there.
http://www.c-span.org/
LoudounLib– I feel your pain!
Phoenix Woman @ 21
Yes! When I feel compelled to use the appelation in writing, I always write it as “pResident Bush.” He’s just temporarily squatting in the people’s house.
I looked–it’s Kristin Gore who has worked on Futurama.
Bad things about California:
Governator.
Earthquakes.
Cool things about California:
Coast Highway from Monterey to San Simeon.
Ocean and Sierra Nevadas within 1 day travel of each other.
Gilroy: Garlic capital of the world.
Watsonville: Artichoke capital of the world.
Hollywood Bowl.
No wingnut senators.
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dmac says:
March 21st, 2007 at 6:11 pm
oregon dave thanks–
the ones i’m talkin’ about are-
but when i click on it, the new window happens so fast that the address is lost, immediately converts, when goes to acrobat text, is a wink of an eye then there it is……….is not like when linked to a site, which i can copy at leisure……the link disappears…any tips for that?
Mutant Poodle @
27
WRONG!
Boxer is in favor of the war, as is Feinstein.
They supported Lieberman. They are for the war. You can’t be one without the other.
Bad things about California - Guitar playing Bastard lives there. :-D
Gore: “…And if the crib’s on fire you don’t speculate that the baby is fire retardant…”
Gore will prevail!
Guitar_Playing_Bastard @ 23
Guitar—
I live here and I am trying to do some good, raising children, saving the lives of newborns, and working to make our government more responsive. Lead. Follow. Support. Teach. Learn. Everybody can do something to help, can you be part of this please?
I hope you will think about me when you want to wipe us all out. The people that I love ARE worth saving. We care about you and want you to live in a good country, so many of us are working for that. Join us? Don’t give up please. I have lifetime depression, I know about giving up. Please stay with us as we fight for a better government.
GSB - what is your occupation? There are some crying needs here in NZ for certain occupations.
Olberman showed the parts where Sen Boxer did the smackdown on Inhofe. Talk about priceless! The stupefied look on Inhofe’s face was one for the ages…
Guitar_Playing_Bastard @ 29
Did anyone hear that Arnold is going to run against boxer?
Jean2k @ 3
Obviously! Approximately 70% of the USA and somewhere around 95% of the rest of the world acknowledge it to be true.
Guitar_Playing_Bastard @ 23
sign me up for new zealand.
only thing is, i’ve heard it’s really difficult to find a country that will take americans.
and that freaky fence on the mexican boarder is really meant to keep us in.
we may have to stay and blog our brains out trying to have some impact.
dmac @ 28
Don’t click on it right away. Place your cursor on the link, and RIGHT click. You will get a menu. One of the options should say something like “copy link location.” After you choose that option, move to your email or wherever it is you want to place the link, place the cursor in the appropriate position, right click again, and one of the options will be “paste.” Choose that, and voila! You’ve got a link pasted in your target destination.
Ya know, Eli, if there’s too much oxygen the atmosphere will explode.
Of course, that might melt the glaciers…
Umm, now, about Rove’s upcoming testimony.
Under oath: “Umm, not to my recollection….”
Not under oath: “Fuck you.”
Under oath: “I have no recollection of that.”
Not under oath: “Fuck you, too.”
Under oath: “It’s not something I remember saying.”
Not under oath: “Ah, fuck you all. I’m outta here.”
Eli in da
houselake.Heh.
Great post.
Miss P. @ 30
Whenever I attended fire safety courses they always talked about using things like blankets and jackets to put out a fire. Never heard anyone mention using a baby.
Learn something everyday.
As much as we would like to see Gore as the next president for eight years, why in the world would he do it?
This is CNN’s stoopid line on President Gore’s expert testimony: “Skeptics frosty at warming warning”. They must write the headline before the actual event. I hate CNN.
Cujo359 @ 38
You’ve seen this, right?
Karl’s Chop Shop features piped in inspirational Muzak:
“oath? hey, can you see, by the Don’s early lie…”
Mutant Poodle @
27
heyyyyy
pch from monterey thru watsonville, santa cruz, davenport, almost all the way up to sf is also very lovely!
Eli @ 43
Didn’t Reagan say trees cause pollution?
Sally @ 42
*If* Al believes that:
A) It is the most effective way to stop global warming, and
B) That he can be elected (and I think there should be no question about that now),
He will run.
NZ Expat @ 32
NZ Expat - I’m thinking of making a trip to NZ in a few months. Do I recall correctly that you live near Lake Tekapo? We’re likely to pass through that area - the guidebooks make it look gorgeous.
Mrs. K8 @ 46
More than any other source, I believe.
i saw a clip of al on lehrer report tonight
he is emotionally eating
that shows a conflict of motivation……..he wants to run, he doesn’t want to run.
not being clear headed if he is doing this, which he is…emotional eating is stifling inner motivations….. he is doing this, obviously.
in a previous thread i said all this………
i hope his desire to be a public servant outweighs his desire to be an informational director………this is definitely causing a conflict in him.
he needs to start eating right and get a clear head…….they go together. i hope for the best, i hope he steps up…….motivation cures all ills…..i hope he sets his right within himself……….
NZ Expat @ 32
NZ Expat - Might you possibly have heard anything about demand for adult psychiatrists?
*xyz @ 48
NZ Expat — Where can one turn to find a list of occupations for which there’s a “crying need” in NZ? Thanks in advance for any suggestion!
egregious @ 31
Welp, I’m on other side of the whole child thing, I’m one of those evil childfree people.
With that said, I’ve tried to join you, and I’ve mostly been rejected as “too confrontational.”
My problem with most Dems is an almost compulsive aversion to confrontation. We’ll see whether the dems have the stomach (or the votes, Lieberman will almost certainly vote with the repukes on all this) to go to the mat.
They HAVE to go to the mat. This is where they HAVE to make their stand. This is the hill we take.
I’m telling you, the only way to defeat the other side is to adopt every single one of their tactics. THEY get away with it, and our side wrings its collective hands and refuses to take the low road.
I know I sound like a broken record, but this is a street fight. It is a fight for the soul of the nation, a fight for our way of life. At the risk of invoking Godwin’s law, fighting the republicans…ALL the republicans, is analagous to fighting the Nazis. Look at their tactics. It’s only a matter of time before they start talking about a “final solution.”
The sooner people start standing up and fighting…as if their lives depended on it, the better. As long as we say “I won’t stoop to their level,” we lose.
Again, we can raise the level of discourse, ONCE WE’RE IN POWER. Until then, we need to fight as dirty as we possibly can.
That’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it.
punaise @ 44
“… what so proudly we flailed,
in the dark night’s fast scheming….”
Hey now, we can’t lose all our FDL’ers to NZ!
dmac –
Did you catch my explanation at #37? Just want to know if I was clear enough.
Mrs. K8 @
46
And cows…
*xyz @ 48
Regrettably, I’m a dork web geek. No shortage and I don’t have a college degree. Do they need roots guitarists?
Cujo359 @ 41
I do not get your point. Er, wer’re talking about saving a life, not throwing bodies into the fire…
dakine01 @ 57
Trees must have a much more complicated life cycle than I had previously imagined…
Eli @ 47, maybe he picked up my long-distance plea, too, and he’ll sure as heck go for the presidency again. What a lovely thought!
GSB - Truth in advertising. I’m on my way back to the US, at least for a year or so (family circumstances). But also because the US of the past was a place that provided haven for my father as a refugee. I too have questions if I want to live among people who are content with this sort of government, but I have a tremendous love for the rivers and the rocks, the far horizons and the near meadowlarks of my past. I’m made of its soil and air.
So the question for me, for the next year while I am there, is what way can I shove and push against this evil? I don’t want to be unrealistic about what I can do, but I’m no good German.
Loudonlib
was just complaining to Loudonlib about the dearth of prosecutions/convictions under Alice Fisher’s tenure -
one of the investigations that appears to have just stopped is
total $90k in 03 & 05 contributions to Goode from Wade/MZM (some of them illegal) and suddenly a Goode staffer is informing Wade there is $9m in appropriations for a MZM facility in the good congressman’s district
Sally @ 61
I really hope so. I can’t think of anyone I’d rather have as president right now.
Eli @ 60
Ronnie forgot that the “pollution” caused by trees was actually oxygen…
Cujo359 @ 41
Clothing has much less water content per gram.
Eli @ 47
I think there’s more than that. While he’s most focused on global warming (since it’s our biggest problem), he’s a public servant who’s dedicated to the welfare of “we the people.” So I think it would be better stated that if he can do more good overall by being elected without being less effective on global warming, he may go for it.
I certainly hope so.
dakine01 @ 65
Oh, I thought trees caused cows. Hence my confusion.
I think to Republicans, maybe oxygen *is* pollution…
Al, sorry, love you man, but you are a hypocrite. You just can’t live in a 10,000 square foot house and fly around in private jets then get up on a soapbox and preach to me about sustainability. Nope, sorry, I like you Mr. Gore but that is just pure hypocrisy. And please don’t bother with the “carbon offsets” crap either. In my book the wealthy are still unable to purchase indulgences for either carbon or heaven.
Take a look at the picture they use for this Time article: Time: A Coming Battle Over Bush’s Executive Privilege
I was quite amused. Symbolic, don’t you think?
Ronnie forgot that the “pollution” caused by trees was actually oxygen…
dakine01 –
Too much of that stuff’ll make ya dizzy, doncha know.
;-)
dakine01 @ 65
That’s a poison, right?
And cows do come from trees. Those brown spiny things on the pines called
conesnaughty word that fall off and dry out and crushh into brown dust.That’s where the smashed brown dusty piles in the pastures come from. We only see the cows aound these piles, so that’s where cows came from.
Back to Liberty U!
I go back and forth on the question of whether Al Gore can accomplish more via his Truth tour or the presidency, but ultimatley I keep coming back to this: the presidency.
In that role, he can hurry the USA’s entry into responsible behavior on the world stage.
It’d be nice to be leading the way as environmentalists and planet savers rather than as warmongers. You know, just for a change of pace.
Mrs. K8 @ 71
Someone even said it might make the atmosphere explode.
“Joe Lieberman’s raw sexual magnetism”
Now, that’s a sentence you don’t hear every day.
News Grinder @ 73
Maybe we should be grateful that Bush isn’t a big believer in global warming, or he’d be invading everyone who refused to sign onto Kyoto…
GSB - I’m in Taupo, on the edge of Lake Taupo. Someone told me a few months ago that we needed two psychologists or psychiatrists here in Taupo. I know quite a few docs that come over for a set time and then have to leave, but by then, they go back and know how to fit into the system to come back with residency. I ran into an American social worker who is on her third year. She wanted to go back, kind of, because she missed bookstores and affordable books (terriby expensive here - I use the library), but now her husband (who I could see flyfishing as we talked) refuses to return.
Engineers are also needed. They shut down the hydrogeology program at the university here, so my husband has hired from Switzerland, Tasmania, Argentina, etc. In his division, the Kiwis are in a minority.
cleter @ 75
It’s the only explanation I can offer for his popularity within the Democratic caucus.
It’s a minority opinion, certainly.
Someone even said it might make the atmosphere explode.
And here I thought they liked “shock and awe.”
Mrs. K8 @ 79
If oxygen could be used to make the atmosphere explode in specific locations, they would be researching the hell out of it.
Eli @ 22
It’s also up on YouTube, if you want to include a (potentially) more permanent link.
Thank you to Paul Waldman from Media Matters on Scarborough a few minutes ago, for shooting down Terry Holt’s umpteenth repetition of the utterly tired, worn-out RNC-spawned/Rethug talking point about Al Gore’s claiming “invention” of the internet. Of course, Holt has no real rebuttal except to say “oh, now the left is blaming the media?! That’s rich!” and tries to interrupt until Scarborough goes to commercial.
I’m turning off the teevee. Thank Gore for blogs.
Want to know how much trouble we are in as a nation??
That energy hog that Al Gore built for himself is a NEW house. In other words, while Gore was jetting around the world warning us about climate change, he was building a perfect example of everything wrong with energy consumption in USA.
We are SO f**ked!!
Fiyero @ 82
Yes indeed. Saw that. Loved it.
Fiyero @ 82
amazing how those fools just snicker and laugh…
Fiyero @ 82
According to my video clip, he also invented the environment.
Mrs. K8 @ 79
No, now they’ve gotten confused, They’re always trying to quote Ronnie and he only said “Aww, shucks…”
sorry, the following is just mean, but i’m still pisssed off at cnn for dissin al.
“Joe Lieberman’s raw sexual magnetism???”
maybe its hidden in those deep folds of skin he calls a face.
I see the Inhofe staffers have discovered FDL.
NZ Expat –
How about engineering support staff? Mr. K8 doesn’t have a degree, but he does have a significant amount of expertise in a narrow field of engineering research — He’s currently running a test lab at his company.
And I met him way back when while in a support job — engineering documentation.
Guitar—
[I’m starting afresh here because of relentless mod notes…sheesh…give us a break]
I hear your anguish and share it to a remarkable degree. It’s so frustrating to see our country go down the tubes and wonder why people can just continue to live their normal everyday lives. Don’t they see? Well, no, not yet.
There are a lot of us who do stand up to evil, whether that’s here or in other countries.
I like to think I’ve helped a little by working not only for a better political situation here but for a number of years in the former Soviet Union. You wanna talk about darkness.
My most recent trip to Russia was the anniversary of the end of the Nazi blockade of Leningrad where a half a million people starved to death. Every single family was affected. They still talk about it.
So yes I do know a little bit about darkness, both Nazi and Communist. I am standing up to this evil the best way I know how, which is quietly to do good, set a good example, and hope that others will see and follow. Apparently we did something breakthru in 1999-2000 by building an ICU for newborns, which was covered in all the papers and all tv stations in a city the size of Chicago. People came from all over the city just to see our ICU, a sign of hope in a very dark country.
Please don’t think that just because I have children that I think others who do not are somehow evil. Everyone is free to make their own decision, and frankly my life would be a lot more civilized if I lived alone.
As to being confrontational, there is a time and a place. I have experienced some of those confrontations: physically, emotionally, and spiritually. The world needs people who will stand up to evil.
You sound like one of us. Tell me more about how you would like to be involved.
yeah, more trolls than usual this time of day. must be hungry.
dakine01 @ 87
LOL!!! That’s a good one — I think punaise would approve.
Eli @ 89
yep, flying high with their faxes and rhet-or-ic.
guitar playin bastard
One of the questions i keep asking is, “are the people of the US WORTH saving?”
I look at places like this and I wonder if there are enough people with enough brains worth saving, and increasingly, the answer is a resounding no.
If the nation and its people are not worth saving, what’s the point of all this? Let the folks linked above have the shithole. They deserve it.
oh my, where i live in se ohio there are a whole lotta people worth it……even those that vote republican…….we are a community, and all play a part, no matter where you go, you will be a part of a community for better or worse, so pick your locale according to that….
Let’s hope Al Gore is no longer enamoured of Joe Lieberman’s raw sexual magnetism. That was his biggest mistake in 2000–assuming that America, too, was transfixed by Lieberman’s heady musk.
cleter @ 96
I don’t think it was decisive in the election, but I fear that if he *had* gotten elected, Lieberman or the Republicans would have found a way to poison him or engineer an AF1 crash, and we’d probably be exactly where we are now.
Eli @ 89
Yeah, I noticed that. Did you know that John Edwards is a hypocrite, too, for advocating for the poor when he has money?
randiego @ 92
Yes. And they must find the message of this thread threatening.
That in itself is very, very useful information.
Sillies, Lack of pirates causes global warming. The FSM tells us so.
Redshift @ 98
Wo that’s pretty harsh. He was not born into money, he earned his wealth by working, and he is well acquainted with people in his area who are either very poor now or one paycheck away from poverty.
cleter @ 96
By now, we’re all more than a little tired of his musky head….
egregious @ 101
I think maybe your browser does not support the sarcasm tag?
Didn’t Ronnie say “If you’ve seen one troll . . .”
(waving at egregious!)
As a descendent of a somewhat migratory tribe (Mennonites!), I’ve grown up with a notion that the nation was never the final answer, that one needed to have more loyalty to one’s values and, if not possible to practice those in a certain location, one moved on. I get a lot of flack from relatives for paying this much attention to politics. Feed the hungry, clothe the naked, comfort the suffering.
Yet, I can’t see standing by and letting the have-mores walk off with the whole country.
On the other hand, the older I get, the more I think I am one of those that is the constant drip of water against the stone. Someday, someone, will be the drop that breaks through. And each drop before made a difference.
(I still don’t know how I’m going to behave around malls and smugness and “it’s not my problem” and “aren’t they all crooked anyway” sort of crap.)
cbl @ 105
“There they go again…”
Educated Plaintiff @ 45
that’s a