
NOTE: Good Morning! Christy will be doing a Libby trial wrap-up with Sam Seder on Air America at about 10:00 a.m. EST. Here's the link: Air America. Those of you with iTunes can also find it in Library: open Radio; Talk/Spoken Word; Air America.
Yesterday a jury of 11 of his peers convicted Scooter Libby of four felonies: giving false statements (lying) to the FBI, two counts of perjury (lying) before a federal Grand Jury and obstructing justice in the investigation into who disclosed the identity of a CIA agent. But the unamimous guilty verdicts by the jurors who actually heard the evidence did not matter to the Administration apologists who simply don't care about the evidence. Unlike Iraq, where the Administration apparently has no "Plan B," their supporters were ready with their response to the verdicts: control the media narrative, bury the obvious accountability moment, obscure the "cloud over Cheney," and more important, discredit the legal process and manipulate the eventual outcome. The coverup is in still on.
Last night those predictable apologists ran to the news programs with a massive disinformation campaign, starting with Fox News declaring the jury was "hopelessly confused" but focusing more on how "unfair" it was to poor Scooter Libby. TRex' late nite post reveals another example of the "poor Libby" theme carried out by the right wing. These were followed by similar attacks on the verdicts on CNN and MSNBC. The apologists were very clear about what they are trying to do. It is a sign of the arrogance and moral depravity of this regime and its supporters that they did this right in front of us. It began with Ed Rogers, who told Hardball's Chris Matthews that "Libby would never lie to anyone" and had been wrongfully convicted of lying. "Justice has not been done," he declared. Putting the lie to the notion that there is no connection between the Libby trial and any "underlying crime," Rogers inisisted that the worst "lie" being perpetrated in America today is the charge that the Administration lied us into a war, so Dick Cheney never had anything to cover up, . . . so Wilson was wrong. And then Rogers smeared Joe Wilson, again. He would be the first of several Bush/Cheney apologists to do that last night.
As Darth Vader once boasted, "the circle is now complete." The case began when the Vice President of the United States and his Chief of Staff (and Assistant to the President) conspired to smear an American Ambassador, Joe Wilson, and to smear his CIA agent wife, Valerie Wilson, both of whom had served their country with honor and courage. The smears were perpetrate to punish both Joe and Valerie, and to intimidate others, for telling the truth about the Administration's complicity in the false claims about WMD. If nothing more had happened, using their offices to smear decent, honorable people would be enough to earn the nation's contempt for Vice President Cheney, Scooter Cheney, Karl Rove, Ari Fleischer, and everyone else who participated in smearing these loyal Americans. But the President's men didn't stop there. They never do.
While they were smearing the Wilsons, Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby, Karl Rove and others in the White House recklessly shared classified information about Valerie Wilson and then participated in a scheme to expose Valerie Wilson's CIA employment and position. In the process, they either deliberately or recklessly revealed her classified status (which Fitzgerald again asserted was "100 percent certain"), destroyed her career, blew her cover and the cover of anyone else connected with her cover operation. And all of this caused as yet unknown harm (because it's classified) to the nation's intelligence capabilities in the area of nuclear weapons proliferation, one of the most important national security topics of our age. That is why the CIA angrily asked the Justice Department to investigate the outing of one of their agents.
Now Scooter Libby, the man who the President was asked to implement this despicable scheme has been found guilty of lying about his and the Vice President's role in this shameful episode. But instead of showing the slightest remorse, embarassment or responsibility for this sorry chapter, Mr. Libby had his attorneys still proclaiming his innocence, the Vice President joined the defense counsel in expressing disappointment, Karl Rove is hiding, the White House won't comment, the President expressed concern only for Mr. Libby and his family, and the Administration's apologists are still lying and still smearing the Wilsons!
The Administration and their supporters are still trying to punish Joe and Valerie Wilson for telling the truth and still trying to cover up the roles played by the Vice President, Karl Rove and others. Who can blame the juror who noted that Libby seemed the "fall guy" who had done what Cheney directed him to do. As the juror asked, "where's Rove -- you know, where are these other guys?" Where indeed.
On PBS NewsHour, Victoria Toensing did her best to continue the diversion but was obviously limited by the presence of Richard Ben-Veniste. Ben-Veniste noted the jury's sympathy for Libby possibly being the "fall guy" for others, including Cheney and Karl Rove. Toensing also noted the juror's "where is Karl Rove" comment, presumably to support the notion that indicting/convicting Libby was not fair. She then tried to restate other elements from her Washington Post hit piece by suggesting that Fitzgerald "had an agenda" and should not have brought the prosecution with so little corroborating evidence. This was just a "he said/she said" case, she repeated, and no one pointed out the trial public record: we know that this argument, at best, applies only to the single count for which Libby was acquitted and that the other four counts had more than ample independent, corroborating evidence. She characterized the smears of the Wilsons as just normal political attacks, which Wilson deserved, and which should not be criminalized. Toensing repeated the "no underlying crime" mantra. Ray Suarez asked her whether lying to a Grand Jury is a serious crime, but she dodged that. Ben-Veniste was simply too polite, and Ray Suarez too poorly informed to ferret out Victoria's calculated misinformation and smears of Fitzgerald and Wilson. It won't stop.
On CNN, Wolf Blitzer explored the "fall guy" theme with John Roberts. What does the trial tell us about Dick Cheney, he wondered? The jury had no doubt that Libby was the fall guy for Cheney and others, Robert's concluded, after showing the juror's statements. Roberts said the trial reenforced the image of Cheney as the guy pulling the strings behind the veil of secrecy. The report then noted the Wilson's civil suit and the barriers to its success. Blitzer noted that the civil suit could force Cheney and other to testify, but only if they can get beyond the barrier that Libby was "acting in the performance of his official duties." No one noted that lying to grand juries and obstructing justice are not within the scope of official duties for public officials.
The most disturbing aspect of news coverage was the number of guests who either advocated a pardon for Libby or even if they opposed it, assumed, as John Dean did on Countdown, that a pardon was inevitable if not imminent. On four different shows, I counted five or six analysts who hoped or assumed it would happen and none who said it was not likely, though there was mention of the Democratic leaders' opposition to any pardon.
In contrast, on CBS News, at least Bob Schieffer asked, "why would Scooter Libby lie?" Schieffer concluded that Libby must not have wanted anything about the Vice President's role to come out, adding that this will hurt not only the Vice President but the whole Administration. Arianna Huffington, appearing on Scarborough, spoke clearly about how dangerous this situation is; MSNBCs David Schuster did his usual excellent job on the facts, and Howard Fineman noted that the underlying story was about Iraq and Dick Cheney's role in selling it.
But the main theme was still about a pardon. On the second round of Hardball, Ed Rogers was missing, but the National Review's David Rivkin pushed the NRO argument that Libby should be pardoned immediately. He argued that the trial would hurt a free press (unlike NRO's call for prosecuting the New York Times and Washington Post, for exposing Administration lawlessness) and was unfair to Libby, so why wait. Ben-Veniste at least said Libby was carrying out Cheney's "dirty business," but Rivkin denied there was any "dirty business" to carry out. Rivkin repeated the standard apologist line that there was no underlying crime and Valerie was not covert and "everyone knows that" -- three falsehoods in one sentence. Then Rivkin smeared Wilson again, claiming Wilson misrepresented that Cheney sent Wilson. He also used the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report to continue the lie that Wilson partly validated the Niger claims. As readers here know, that lie has been thoroughly exposed and discredited by eRiposte and others.
Lies never die with these people. The guilty verdicts changed nothing for them. All of the lies that have been repeatedly discredited are still being told by the Administration's supporters without shame and too often without response. The cover up continues and is in full force. Libby is still the fire wall to protect Cheney and others, and the apologists and neocons are working very hard to make sure he stays the firewall. The strategy now seems to create a dominant view that a pardon is not only fair to poor fallguy Scooter Libby but inevitable. So there's no reason to wait.
But if that's true, then why hurry? Libby can still appeal, and the appeal may remove the guilty verdict from his record. In the meantime, he remains free. So why press the case for an immediate pardon? The most likely explanation I can think of is that the Administration's supporters may be very worried about Mrs. Libby. If she is uncertain about a pardon or its timing, she has much to lose. This is a critical time for the Libbys, and they have a choice to make. By clamoring for a pardon, those who are continuing to cover up or excuse the crimes of this Administration are working very hard to ensure that he makes the choice that continues the firewall and the cover up. This is a sorry, shameful business.
Yesterday's jury verdict was an important victory for American justice, but only if Libby's conviction leads to further investigations and is not negated. And this story is connected to the continuing horrors of the war, the exploding scandal of disgraceful conditions facing returning veterans, the suspicious firing of US Attorneys (watch TPM) and every other story we've been following about the duplicity and extreme lawlessness of this regime. If the American people have had enough of this lawlessness and the horrors it has created and justified, they -- we -- need to demand that Congress investigate every aspect of this matter and every story that connects to it, and then demand more indictments and prosecutions. Andrew Sullivan sums up the argument as well as any:
Something is rotten in the heart of Washington; and it lies in the vice-president's office. The salience of this case is obvious. What it is really about - what it has always been about - is whether this administration deliberately misled the American people about WMD intelligence before the war. The risks Cheney took to attack Wilson, the insane over-reaction that otherwise very smart men in this administration engaged in to rebut a relatively trivial issue: all this strongly implies the fact they were terrified that the full details of their pre-war WMD knowledge would come out. Fitzgerald could smell this. He was right to pursue it, and to prove that a brilliant, intelligent, sane man like Libby would risk jail to protect his bosses. What was he really trying to hide? We now need a Congressional investigation to find out more, to subpoena Cheney and, if he won't cooperate, consider impeaching him.
Patrick Fitzgerald and his team have done all that they could have done, given the continuing coverup. Jane, Christy and Marcy and the wonderful crew at Plamehouse did everything they could. And Joe and Valerie Wilson continue to do everything they can do. Now they all need our help. It will take a lot of pushing from all of us, because many, perhaps a majority in Congress are at least negligent, if not complicit in the true underlying crime of misleading the country into war. But holding up that mirror is the only way this coverup and the crimes behind it will end.
UPDATE: True to form, the Washington Post editorial page continues the deceitful attack on the Libby trial.
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NPR’s “On Point” today with Tom Ashbrook will be talking about Libby. It would be great if some Firepups called in!
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Howard Kurtz makes mention of Jane this morning in his Media Notes Column:
if I were Scooter, I would worry that the whole house of cards was about to blow down…
Cheney could retire for health reasons and Bush could be impeached - those aren’t odds I’d want to be betting my life on.
EPU’d, but actually even more relevant here :)
Crazy Horse @ 388
I bring you insight from Upton Sinclar: It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.
The wingnuts do not operate as good faith parties acting within political deliberations to form good policy. No set of facts, however monstrous, will snuff out their spinning, just as no set of facts will keep a good defense lawyer from advocating for their client. The wingnuts are paid advocates. If Arianna were to put enough money on the table, I guarantee you that Malkin would have a “come to Jesus” moment and start writing daily screeds for Huffington Post. Note that I do not think this would be a good use of the money.
For instance, try this on for size: “We all know how liberal the media is, and one of the jurors had a clear bias to ‘get’ Scooter Libby. He even knew many of the other liberal media figures who figured in the case. Who knows what they told him?” And I’m just an amateur at this.
Wow– what a post, Scarecrow.
amen.
Scarecrow!
Good Morning All,
was just teeing up Toesuck on the tivo - yuh ah ah!
here’s a refreshingly different (reality based) take on yesterday’s events from Matt Cooper’s atty
having trouble directly linking it - so go to Tweety page and click on it from the “More from Hardball” list just under the Edwards pic -
Tweety Page
oh yeah, preach it you handsome devil!
Thanks for expressing my sentiments on this so much better than I can. The level of spin and the enabling media is just out of control. It only serves to diminish the media outlets credibility even more than it has been already. More incredibly, the actions of those in power — hiding and having their minions speak lies to lies — is so weak it’s downright scary.
Ed Rogers counts on one of my list of the Worst Americans. He is filth, he is filthy rich on lobbying, and he has his press buddies cowed because he wines and dines them.
(This post by Digby says it all, with its description of Rogers’ 18,000 sq. ft. Surry Hill mansion, built from the spoils of his corporate lobbying. This is a fake-cornpone member of the permanent governing class, unelected and unaccountable.)
He’s a shill and an unabashed liar who needs to be called as such to his face, because he has no qualms about doing the same to others. Bob Shrum doesn’t have the courage to do it. So it’s up to whoever appears alongside him — Cliff Schecter, take that booking — to do so.
As for Fred Hiatt, he’s proved that the editorial board of the WaPo is part of the Beltway’s power structure, and as such, cannot be trusted to comment upon it.
It isn’t about party: engrained power becomes its own party, particularly in an environment like Washington. Let’s call it the ‘Cocktail Party’. And think of the the decadence of Versailles (or White Mischief), propped up by the belief that little people’s laws don’t apply to Important People. The notion of accountability is what provokes the most outrage among the pundit-politician complex.
Scarecrow - you are on FIRE! Yup if I was Mrs. Libby I would push to turn on Cheney.
The WaPo is its usual disgusting self on the editorial page today. How discouraging it must be for the few decent reporters who work there to always have the Criminals excused by the “opinion makers” at the top.
Fantastic post, Scarecrow. Thanks so much for pulling all of this together.
Wish me luck on the interview this morning, gang — The Peanut is still home sick, and I’m going to have to juggle a chatty almost-4-year-old and a radio interview. I need a miracle. *g*
We knew this would happen, but sometimes it does seem overwhelming. As Professor Foland observed on the prev thread,
So, what is the point of haranguing wingnuts? A reasonable amount of pushback, yes, stating the facts, yes, and LTE’s don’t hurt.
But I wonder, is there someone else we should be talking to? Like Congress?
See Jane go after the truth, while the rest of the media plays catch-up.
Go, Jane, go!!
pseudonymous in nc @ 11
Excellent suggestion.
Good morning, firepups! Still bitter cold here in MA, but at least the sun is out.
I’ve been searching the media this a.m. looking for other signs of the spin. But so far the “where’s Rove, where’s Cheney?” is getting a lot of play. The jurur did his job.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 14
Christy!
“All we need is a miracle…
All we need is YOU”
You could let her talk with us while you do the radio interview.
Rayne @ 16
Oh, perfect Rayne! That link’s going right up top. Gimme a minute.
See Marcy staying on top of the truth, listening and taking mental notes as fast as Fitzgerald speaks.
Go, Marcy, go!!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 14
My sympathies on the juggling. I’ll wave hi to the Peanut if I hear some noises in the background ;-)
Break a leg, Christy, and go get ‘em.
{{{ Peanut }}}}} — thanks for the dino suit, and thanks for letting your mom save the country (in her spare time). Christy, you rock!
See Scooter’s shattered defense and foundering relationship as the truth hits home, while Pat_AlexVA catches it in real time.
Go, Pat, go!!
Wishing you luck Christy!
Worst. WaPo. Editorial. Ever.
Professor Foland @
4
any idea who will be the guest(s)?
this is, as others have noted, an excelletn post. it shows the blueprint of the bushites, and why they will continue to beat their false drums relentlessly.
i am truly baffled why more people don’t get it: how this case is like the serpent’s egg, showing the outlines of the true deceitful nature of the entire iraq enterprise. and how the great efforts now being expended to shoo folks aways — like fitz said, the “nothing to see here” con — also are a piece of the very same enterprise.
the best we can hope for is that this gets some traction in the democratic congress, and that there continues to be pressure and investigations into the nihilistic behavior that has degraded our culture and weakened our nation.
yesterday was a very good day. may there be many more.
allan_in_upstate @ 26
Yikes! Not before breakfast…
what baffles me with some of the news coverage is that they act like Scooter was somehow and UNwitting scapegoat…. some sort of innocent victim in all this…
See Fitzgerald remind us “[A]ny lie under oath is serious. We cannot tolerate perjury. The truth is what drives our judicial system. If someone tells a lie under oath, it is every prosecutor’s duty to pursue that case. It is obviously a serious matter when a high level official does that under a national security investigation — it should never be tolerated.”
GO, FITZ, GO!!!
YAY TEAM!!!
musicsleuth @
29
un f’ing believable!
Rayne @ 31
Hear! Hear! And your Jane pic link is now in the last paragraph. Thanks. Everyone refresh.
Fantastic post Scarecrow, and it is wicked cold her in NYC too!
Re Mrs Libby. I speculated yesterday that given her behavior after the verdict (hurling herself tearfully at Wells and not even touching her husband) that she is one pissed off wife. Any decent defense attny would’ve explored with the Libby’s the potential dangers of going to trial and also would’ve encouraged them to consider a possible pre-trial deal with Fitz. If the Mrs was in favor of Libby doing something of this nature, and he refused to consider her feelings on this matter, her anger would be very understandable. As a lawyer herself, she would’ve been more aware than most people of the potential pitfalls. And since she is a Democrat, it is not likely that she would be too happy to see her husband choose Darth Cheney over her and her two young children.
But I think the biggest clue as to her state of mind would’ve been the constant use by Libby (and his spokesperson Wells) of the words “the wife” — which may be what his own wife is, in his mind.
Scarecrow @
33
Oh, not my pic, the pics were all Pat_AlexVa, who dropped everything yesterday and flew over to the Prettyman Courthouse to take snaps while Jane and Marcy worked the story on the ground right to the end.
An enormous THANK YOU!! to Pat_AlexVA. It was almost like being there with him on the ground to cover this. Seriously, we’d have no snaps of Jane and Marcy in action if he’d not been there.
Their lies continue. It’s all they have.
Let there be Congressional hearings, and revelations and doom.
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On Fox Noise last night, as a guest was mentioning that Libby made false statements to the grand jury, Hannity cut him off to yell “Allegedly!! Allegedly!!,” as though Libby had not just been found guilty of that in a court of law. Unbelievable.
Novak was on there as well, proudly saying that “Her cover was first blown in MY column!” Since when is outing a covert officer something to be proud of?
These clowns are unbelievable.
Thank you again, Jane and the gang, for the amazing and historic coverage of this trial.
GREAT post…thank you!
allan_in_upstate @ 26
thanks for the link. i just added my voice to the chorus of commenters at the wapo site noting the editorial’s utter lack of honesty.
exactly what is the difference between the wapo and the wsj editorial boards again?
Scarecrow, Thanks to you and all the FDL team. This post is a great one for keeping the fires burning.
Yesterday was a great day for America. If we can keep the truth coming like a train.
Rayne @
21
Marcy only takes notes when she hears something she doesn’t already know.
Thanks, Scarecrow! Your eloquence helps me see my outrage more clearly.
the cloud continues
fresh air from the Wilson page
Compare this forthright editorial in this morning’s Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lead.....31,00.html
with this piece of rubbish:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....02020.html
We are in serious trouble if one of the leading newspapers in our country cannot bring itself to admit that this scandal is all about the war in Iraq, and refuses to pay any attention to the copious evidence produced publicly at trial that put a spotlight on this administration’s contempt for ethics, the press, the American public, and people who dedicate their lives to safeguarding this country in the intelligence community.
I thought John Dean did a great job on KO explaining that Libby was not just a fall guy. On the contrary, he was a hyper active participant in the neocon hive.
Rayne @ 35
The pictures are great. Kudos to Pat_AlexVA.
Has anyone mentioned that at least Matthews called the vile Ed Rogers on his contributions to the Libby Defense Fund?
Christy Hardin Smith @
14
Pssst, Christy…. E L M O
Scarecrow @ 41
Hence the “mental notes”…she was filing away verbatim in her awesome holographic memory what the Tall Man said for future use. Not fact check because I’m certain she could teach him a thing or two — if he hasn’t already read her book and blog.
DeWitt Grey @ 44
“We agree that the food riots in Paris are a distraction, and that brioche is a more than adequate substitute.” — Frederique de la Hiatt, La Poste de Versailles
Be sure to leave your comments at the end of the WP editorial. Let them know that there attempt at spin, jury nullification, and smears will not work.
WP editorial - leave a comment
CocoaBeach @ 47
Yes, that was an interesting accountability moment for Rogers. Rogers then said he’d contribute more.
Matthews keeps asking a really important question: if the VP asked the CIA for more information about the Niger claim, why shouldn’t we assume the CIA gave him a briefing about Wilson’s trip, early on — and if that happened . . . why didn’t Cheney stop peddling false info and stop the 16 words in the SOTU speech.
Larry Johnson has stated several times that such a briefing would have been routine — someone at CIA knows the answer to this explosive question, but they haven’t come forward. Hello, Congress?
We need a congressional investigation to at least put some doubt into Libby’s mind regarding the possibility of a pardon. If the congressional investigations are televised and people become aware of the things that eRipost and others have written about the forgeries it becomes clear that Bushco lied us into war. Do I think he will step down…no. But it would create some doubt about whether or not the Bush presidency is viable and can give the pardon. That doubt might be enough to push Libby to roll over, especially if it looks like the cat is coming out of the bag without him.
Lets make a push to congress, to move forward and investigate the lead up to war…We need to push hard, but I know it works!!!
I just watched teh juror on ABC, interview by Diane Sawyer. While the coverage overall was good, Diane, as usual, did not get it.
She kept wanting to know why the trial was not about the leak but the cover up. Um, Diane, obstruction of justice, mean anything to you?
A commenter on Fred Hiatt’s WaPo editoral makes a fun point (my bold):
One standard of proof for BushCo, another for everyone else, oh course!
Thank you, just thank you so much for all of your hard work in covering this trial. For those of us who live in the hinterlands and need this kind of detailed coverage, you all really came through for us. Bless you all.
From the op-edThe damage done to journalists’ ability to obtain information from confidential government sources has yet to be measured.
Oh please! Just when it seems they were done with that sales pitch, it resurfaces in an op-ed. Oh pooor Judy, Wahahaha.
Fred Hiatt needs to be fired.
pseudonymous in nc @
50
Fab quote, I think I have to cross-stitch that one on a pillow.
Brioche for everybody!!!
Now where’s that circus they promised?
In an otherwise excellent review of the danger to the verdict from the spinmeisters and liars, you cite and link in your first para.–the only one most people will read–the WaPo article on ” the accountability moment” in which Maitlan calls Wilson a demonstrable liar and pursues the spin you are covering. It also as threatens Democrats if they overdo it by launching investigations.
How could you? Did you read the piece? This blog is the watchword for attentive scrutiny and we deserve better,
Scarecrow @ 52
I have always been curious what else Fitz knows about Cheney’s involvement that hasn’t come out because the trial was about Libby and not Cheney. Would we have known about Libby’s MIB testimony without the Libby trial? The person at the CIA hasn’t come forward… publicly. I wonder what’s in the GJ files.
From EPU @184 on “The Tall Guy” I had a question (some editing):
IANAL but in the comments in these posts somewhere, someone observed that the power to issue pardons ceased if the president was under impeachment proceedings.
If this is so, it is imperitive that such start immediately. That ought to leave Libby, Libby, Libby, hanging, slowly twisting, in the breeze - to recoin a phrase, oughten it?
Just how difficult would it be to impeach investigate the spectrum of malfeasance until the term is expired and still not return to senate for trial. It might be the leash needed to put some manners on the administration and maybe impear some of the excesses.
Please enlighten as curiosity is eating me alive. All the best…….
If it hasn’t already been noted, tomorrow is International Women’s Day.
What an appropriate time to salute all the women of FDL!
CocoaBeach @ 47
Do tell!!! When will someone have the opportunity to call Tucker out for his dad’s money and role in the Libby Defense Fund?
Did the Washington Post and the Washington Times merge? They are starting to sound the same.
I’m not sure prison is the right choice for Scooter Libby. If the sentence is, let’s say, two years, how about Scooter being sentenced to spending eight hours a day, seven days a week, as an aide helping our wounded service personnel get around Walter Reed. If Scooter is in prison, he can see himself as a victim. If he is helping service personnel with brain injuries, amputations, and other injuries move around the military care system, he might eventually realize what he and his bosses did.
bg @ 54
of course it does. she was in nixon’s white house.
I don’t have a lot of faith that Congress will advance the ball on this story. They can’t even coordinate a plan to end a war that only 30 percent of the public supports.
And the White House crowd is well beyond shame. They simply don’t care anymore how much bad press they get. They have 22 months left in office and neither the Prez. nor Dr. Death is running again.
The general populace has outrage fatigue.
Thank you Jane, thank you Christy, thanks FDL Firepups esp Steelthing for financing Plame House and Anatomy of Deceit. Thanks Next Hurrah, Huffington Post, Talk Left and dKos for working together — we are not used to seeing cooperation in our society, but I have a feeling we will be seeing lots more of it. Thanks PoliticsTV for the punchy videos.
Thanks to the Plame House Team — Marcy, Swopa, Pach and Honorary Guest Liveblogger Egregious, and to Pat_AlexVA for photographs and glasses retrieval.
Thanks Looseheadprop, Mary, eRiposte, Scarecrow and all the posters and commenters who educated us.
Thanks Patrick Fitzgerald and Team Fitz for giving us honest service.
Thanks PayPal for making it easy for us to support the truth with our $. Newspapers, MSM — you are dinosaurs — adapt or die.
BTW, anyone know if/where we can hear Christy on the radio?
Sue Ri @ 66
oooh, an accountability moment, indeed.
i’ll second that emotion.
Denis Collins has a very long posting about his experiences up at HuffPo
INSIDE THE JURY ROOM
HUFFINGTON POST EXCLUSIVE
By Denis Collins, Juror #9
Denis Collins
Scarecrow, great piece. I think you are right on target. Mrs. Libby’s (Harriet Grant) body language seems to say a great deal. She was distant from her husband and the situation. She seems to be wondering why her husband is taking all of the heat for Cheney and the war machine (although Libby has been pushing for taking our Iraq quite some time). He is a warmonger and chickenhawk, Libby has plenty to answer for and has plenty of blood on his own hands. And as Matthews pointed out he is not a “scapegoat”( which would infer innocence. “Fall guy” maybe, but Libby is guilty of lying and being part of the lie machine that took this nation into an unnecessary war.
Thanks for reminding us to call and put pressure on our reps(who are not representing us) and demand further investigations.
One has to really question Victoria Toensing’s intentions (who I believe wrote the INtelligence Protection Act). Did she write the UPA to protect agents or not? Did she have some other agenda? She is oh so creepy!
Those of you who are more educated in politics and law than I can probably answer: Wasn’t there a lot of testimony, at the Libby trial. about the involvement of Cheney, Addington, Rove, etc. in the leak? Was there not enought there to pursue a trial of Libby for the actual leak, and/or perhaps Cheney et al?
looseheadprop — you out there?
Any other attorneys with appropriate background?
IANAL, need a clarification; both a 6(g) and a 3(g) motion were referred to yesterday in the “More” thread, need to know which it is before I send my fax to Conyers.
Thanks much.
My letter to the WaPo:
This scandal was propelled by the outright lies of an administration determined to drive the country to war at any cost.
Ambassador Wilson has served the United States with far more courage and honor than any member of the Bush Team, and was the best person available to investigate the alleged attempted yellowcake uranium transaction, regardless of who recommended him for the task.
The entire editorial board of the Washingtom Post needs a refresher course in jounralistic ethics. The above drivel is remarkable for the fact that it repeats nearly every lie and half-truth promulgated by apologists for the OVP over the last four years.
Frankly, Katherine Graham must be spinning in her grave to see how far The Washington Post has fallen. There was a time when your newspaper had high standards and the courage to speak truth to power. Patrick Fitzgerald is a shining example of what is right with America: a man determined to do his duty under the law without regard to partisan political concerns.
Mr. Libby is now a fingerprinted, convicted felon, soon to be disbarred, his life in shambles, because he had the hubris to think he was above the law.
I hope Rep. John Conyers soon delivers subpoenas to the OVP with an eye toward the impeachment of Mr. Cheney for high crimes and misdemeanors.
The Washington Post editorial could have been written by Cheney. Hell, it probably was. How else could it be wrong about nearly every damn fact?
bg @ 54
It’s pieces like this that remind us again and again how the Mainstream Journalists [i.e., “talking heads”] don’t have a brain among them. They spout off with such authority, but they haven’t a clue what they’re talking about. They can’t even ask intelligent questions, because that would highlight their ignorance. [I exclude Bob Schieffer of CBS from this.]
In addition, it’s such a contrast to Marcy, Pac, Christy, Jane and all the others here who are smart, but who aren’t afraid to admit when they need additional information and ask for it. Imagine what it would be like if “our folks” were the MSM!
allan_in_upstate @
26
No shit. It’s a jaw dropper.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 14
Now is the time to fire up an anime, and hand her a CHEWY granola bar. Good luck!
(I have a four-year-old, myself, and she has that universal Mommy-may-NOT-complete-a-rational-thought-while-on-the-phone agenda, too.)
dmg @ 70
I like this idea, but all of the Bush chickenhawks (including Kristol, Rivkin, Reuel Marc Gerecht etc.) all need to do life sentences at Walter Reed or outpatient work serving and waiting on the soldiers that they were so willing to sacrifice for their agendas.
Another alternative is to drop all of them butt assed naked in the middle of Baghdad and let them fend for themselves.
annx @ 51
That editorial is so sick. I don’t think I could comment on it.
the firestorm of negative comments on the
waPo’s editorial is impressive. Go there and post. It can’t help Hiatt that only one or two — out of hundreds — of the comments support him. Lots of well-informed angry concern out there. How can we harnaas it?
LaFourmiRouge @ 75
Katherine Graham blocked honest and balanced reporting on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. The Post has been in lock down for a long long time.
BTW, anyone know if/where we can hear Christy on the radio?
See the NOTE at the top of the page for the links.
all this poor Scootie stuff I’m sure he will get a job studying ethics in government like his pal Eliott Abrams
http://rightweb.irc-online.org.....g/profile/ 969
a convicted felon who was hired by goopers to work on ethics in government Scootie has a lot of work
in store for him
My letter to the Post:
Today’s editorial on the Libby verdict illustrates what has become the modus operandi of your editorial staff in the years since the Bush administration manipulated the evidence to sway them and the American people into supporting the invasion of Iraq.
To maintain the “we weren’t wrong” position, your editorial writer has had to cultivate an indifference to the evidence in both the case against Libby and the case for war — even when that evidence has appeared on the front page of your newspaper. This is sad and strange to witness.
Not content with that, the editorial writer has resorted to easily disproved canards regarding both the covert status of Valerie Plame and the decision-making of the prosecutor. This is inexcusable.
(By the way — if Richard Armitage had never opened his mouth, do you really think that Karl Rove and Scooter Libby would have behaved any differently? I thought not.)
Ultimately the history of the Bush years will be written, probably by both historians and journalists like Tom Ricks and Dana Priest. How ironic it will be when they have to point out the role that their own paper’s editorial staff has played in helping the Bush administration flout the rule of law, the rules of evidence, and the rules of common decency.
elef @ 73
There was a lot of testimony, but the difficulty is that their knowing about Valerie Wilson and her classified status, and their not LIKING what Joe Wilson wrote, does not equal a leak by those people. Suggests a conspiracy maybe. We don’t know what Fitz has, really. His case is “inactive,” not closed. We don’t know. The White House was allowed to know about Valerie Wilson. They were allowed to not like what Joe Wilson wrote. Where the info got out AND where state of mind suggested a desire to hide his release of info, centers around Libby. (And Rove…what did he DO to get out of this?)
There is, in my mind, a preponderance of evidence that Cheney directed Libby to smear Wilson, but preponderance works better in a civil suit. That’s why I’m going to help out with funding the wilson’s suit.
Congressional Oversight!!!
Pat_AlexVA @ 61
Matthews ended his one hour last evening focused on this issue. Thank you to Chris Matthews for dogging this. I swear he is one of the only mainstreamers doing his job.