I have to say that the knowledge that reporters in the courthouse media room had about the Libby case was remarklably good, certainly far more comprehensive than the thick-witted credulity shown by Steno Sue Schmidt and others as the shoveled one press release after another issued by Arkansas political operatives onto the front pages of the Washington Post during Whitewater. Even when the story made patently no sense reporters failed to ask appropriate questions. I do not know whether Glenn Greenwald is right and blogs are having an influence, but it did seem that the abililty of the Barbara Comstocks of the world to fob off outrageous spin as fact was somewhat diminished in this case.
One of those journalists was James Gordon Meeks, who said we "owned" the story on Washington Journal in the video above.
And he wasn't the only one who noticed. Glenn Greenwald did too, and Jeff Jarvis had this to say:
In the rearchitecture of news, what needs to happen is that people are driven to the best coverage, not the 87th version of the same coverage. This will work for publications and news organizations. It will also work for individuals; this is how a lone reporter’s work (and reputation) can surface. We saw that happening with the Libby trial and Firedoglake’s liveblogging of it. As Jay Rosen said at our NPR confab last week — and I’ve heard this elsewhere — theirs became the best source for keeping up on the trial. Reporters and editors knew it and were using it. So those same reporters and editors should have been sending their readers to the blog as a service: ‘We’re not liveblogging it, but they are. We’ll give you our analysis and reporting later. Enjoy.’ That is where the architecture of news must go because links enable it and economics demand it.
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FDL!!
FITZ!!!
Give truth back!
Jane!
JANE!
FDL!
Jane,
Do you still have the Snoopy dance?
We’re at Plame House doing PoliticsTV. What a long strange trip it’s been…
Maybe those reporters and editors ought to pitch in a little too. After all, via PBS: “Who is going to pay for the news?”
Anyone else not getting a video or is it just me?
Thanks to everyone who made this possible.
The Wilson’s statement on the verdict.
EPU. Your feedback please:
Today the former chief of staff of the Vice President, Mr. I. Scooter Libby was found guilty of two counts of lying to FBI investigators, one count of perjury for testifying falsely under oath, and one count of obstruction of justice in the leak investigation of a CIA agent’s identity.
If Mr. Libby’s motive for lying, perjury and obstruction of justice was to conceal Mr. Cheney’s role in the disclosure of classified information and insulate him from legal jeopardy, then it is the sole responsibility of Congress to investigate; and to initiate impeachment proceedings if there is probable cause and ample justification
While Mr. Libby has been found guilty of perjury and obstruction, there has been no determination regarding who is responsible for disclosing the classified information and blowing the cover of the CIA NOC. Mr. Libby learned of the CIA agent’s identity from Mr. Cheney. There is evidence presented at trial that indicates that Mr. Cheney learned about the CIA agent’s classified identity from his CIA briefer and a classified State Department memo. The prosecutor was clear where the facts lead. He stated in his closing argument, “There is a cloud over the Vice President.”
Congress must investigate in order to meet its responsibilities under the Constitution. As you know, this disclosure of classified information came from senior White House officials and occurred during a time when our President had war authorization for a pre-emptive war in Iraq to disarm Saddam Hussein of his nuclear WMDs, which as we all know never materialized. This disclosure of classified information came from senior White House officials in reaction to an op-ed in the New York Times challenging the intelligence used to justify war authorization. We now know that Mr. Cheney’s office was involved in providing “intelligence” for war authorization. This disclosure of classified information came from senior White House officials and revealed a CIA agent’s identity, Valerie Plame, who is also the wife of the man who published the op-ed. On or about the time Valerie Plame’s name was published, the President’s chief policy advisor Karl Rove told Chris Matthews, “Valeria Plame is fair game.” The identity of the CIA agent was classified and her status was covert. She had non-official cover.
I call on you to conduct a thorough investigation into this matter, using subpoena power, as a high priority in Congress. If instead Congress elects to investigate the intelligence used for war authorization, then the interests of the integrity of our Republic will be equally well represented. Thank you.
Nice damn work.
Joe and Valerie Wilson’s statement at CREW:
STATEMENT IN RESPONSE TO JURY’S VERDICT IN U.S. V. I. LEWIS “SCOOTER” LIBBY
Washington, DC – First, Valerie and Joseph Wilson would like to express their appreciation to Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald and the entire team of federal prosecutors for their professionalism and hard work. Their prosecution of a senior White House official illustrates that we are a nation of laws and that no man is above the law. The Wilsons respect the jury’s verdict and thank the jurors for their service. The entire Wilson team is pleased by today’s verdict and believes that justice has been served in this case.
The Wilsons will continue to pursue the civil case against Vice President Cheney, Mr. Libby, Mr. Rove and Mr. Armitage because it hinges on additional and different facts from those underlying the criminal case. The criminal trial was about whether or not Mr. Libby obstructed justice and committed perjury by lying to FBI agents and the grand jury about the fact that he had disclosed to reporters that Valerie Wilson worked for the CIA. The civil suit, on the other hand, hinges on whether or not the defendants violated the constitutional rights of Valerie and Joe Wilson by making those disclosures in a concerted effort to retaliate against Joe Wilson for revealing the falsity of the president’s rationale for the Iraq war.
Disturbing facts emerged from the criminal trial that are highly relevant to the civil case. For example, the American public learned details of how Vice President Cheney orchestrated the concerted White House effort to discredit and retaliate against Joe Wilson. Towards that end, the vice president enlisted the aid of other senior administration officials including former press secretary Ari Fleischer, vice presidential assistant Cathie Martin and presidential advisor Karl Rove. Testimony in the criminal case also confirmed that Mr. Libby spoke to numerous reporters in an effort to persuade at least one of them to publicly reveal Mrs. Wilson’s covert status.
Melanie Sloan, CREW’s executive director and counsel to the Wilsons, stated, “The civil case may provide the American public with its only opportunity to hear directly from Vice President Cheney, Mr. Libby, Mr. Rove and Mr. Armitage about what really took place behind the scenes after Joe Wilson exposed the truth about the administration’s justification for the Iraq war.”
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Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) is a non-profit legal watchdog group dedicated to holding public officials accountable for their actions.
For more information, please visit www.citizensforethics.org or contact Naomi Seligman Steiner at 202.408.5565/press@citizensforethics.org.
What you guys did was so important. Thank you so much. And it’s only right that you get as much credit as you are getting. Congrats!
No video here either. I’m sure they’ll get it fixed.
I’m so glad I made a “founders” donation.
You did us all proud!!!
I’m wondering if fitz reads the lake
I can see the future Ph.D. thesis now: “Disintermediation and traditional news reporting: the case of Firedoglake and the Libby Trial.”
I hope it’s appropriate to EPU the Video of Christy on CSPAN a year ago this month that is referred to in the video above.
ReddHedd on CSPAN - March 2006
Oops… I should have wrote out Christy’s name. Feel free to modify for me mod. I was just lazy and now I can’t edit.
Sending some PayPal Turkee your way, because you provide orders of magnitude more-bang-for-the-buck than “Times Select”.
“Alinsky’s conclusion that the ‘ventilation’ of hostilities is healthy in certain situations is valid, but across-the-board ‘social catharsis’ cannot be prescribed.”
~Hillary Rodham Clinton (1969)
Jane - You are entitled to four counts of ventilation.
Catharsis - Maybe later.
EPU’d Joe Wilson coming up on NPR all things considered soon!!!!
EPU’d:
Media Matters has an excellent list of “Media Myths and Falsehoods” to look out for in the coming days. It’s an excellent review of winger & TradMed talking points, and specific refutations of each one.
{TSF taking wee bow; thanking FDL}
YEAH FDL.
Regarding reporters - on MSNBC kelly O’Donnell was talking about how emotional everyone was, and mentioned Wells emotional tears at the end of his closing. If she had come hear she would have known they were FAKE!
Is rearchitechured a word?
Jeff Jarvis is one tough no-nonsense customer who usually knows what he’s talking about, and doesn’t mince words.
The “remarklably good” spelling error above, aside,
I still think a “My Fair Lady”-esque trill of praise is due to you and the other F-dog folx for all your efforts in keeping people informed: a la
“We know the blame for Plame from Jane and Rayne…”
or such.
Take a bow yourself!
FDL RULED on the Libby coverage. Plain and simple. And the MSM had to know that you had the goods…so they had better act accordingly….at least in most cases.
Thank you - not only for the play by play, but for the analysis that you also provided at the end of each day.
Doubtless this has been linked, but can’t hurt in case people missed it: Glenn Greenwald’s take on the Libby conviction. GG in short: it marks, in a meaningful way, the ending of an era of unaccountability.
My pleasure at the verdict was momentarily disturbed when I ran into one of partners on the way to lunch. Have you heard the news, I asked? He expressed surprise. Really, I said, have you been following the trial?
It doesn’t matter, he said. The DC Court of Appeals, Silberman especially, will figure out a way to reverse.
I’m still not sure why he is surprised at the jury verdict, but he may be right about the DC Circuit, at least if Silberman and Sentelle are on the panel. After all, they’ve been giving the Supreme Court the finger when they don’t think the Supremes have got it right.
Oh well. As Scarlett O’Hara said, I’m going to think about that tomorrow.
Well done.
Thank you thank you thank you. I watched (or at least think I did) the Watergate hearings which opened the world to something not nearly as destructive as we have witnessed recently. Of course I would have loved to watch this live, but because I couldn’t, you were there for me. I came to Firedoglake when the brouhaha began and left until the trial started and find myself back again. This is the coverage you all do best, and although I appreciate the other stories, it’s hard to beat court reporting at its finest. Am looking forward to future installments of The Perry Mason Show on Firedoglake. Thanks again.
I am glad what I could contribute helped in financing your efforts! It woould be interesting to know a ballpark figure what your costs ended up being to better give us all an idea of what future project costs might be.
The impact of FDL was demonstrated every single time the servers crashed! Did anyone count?
There’s no question that at this point FDL has, indeed, (how else to say it?) arrived.
Congratulations to Jane, Christy, emptywheel, Pach, TRex, Swopa, lhp, scarecrow, and many others whom I do not have the space to name here.
Biodun @ 26:
Must be a different Jarvis than the one I used to read occasionally.
IMO, he’s a glib, narcissistic twit, but if he saw the light briefly enough to praise FDL, it goes to show how clearly Ms. Hamsher’s vision lapped the field.
I sure would like to know if Cheney is responsible for the leak and culpable under the law. If Fitz believes it is Chaney, then Fitz can’t pursue it, right? Congress must.
I am listening to Collins–and liking this guy more and more!
Not wanting to endanger future court live-blogging with this comment, but I have a question. Tape recorders are not allowed in the pressroom, but laptops are. If you were blogging from laptop with a built-in microphone, it would be pretty easy to record the sound of the events. (Naturally if you were typing on it, it would also be picking up keyboard clicks, ect.) I guess my point is, how do they check that people are not indeed RECORDING AUDIO via their laptops? And what would the penalties be, if caught?
I’m still waiting for someone to publically notice that HR Haldeman, Richard Nixon’s Chief of Staff was coincidentally convicted of Obstruction of Justice….
kimalanus
jane, before we get to next battle, were we able to cover costs for this one? Want to make sure FDL is in the black.
Should we contact the Libby Defense Fund and offer a free box set of the Oz series for Scooter so he can get primed on life in the can?
-GSD
I just watched Tweety on Tucker. He’s foaming !
I think he read Marcy’s book too. Seems to have a new “command” of the total picture.
baked potato @ 18:
A fine book should come out of all this: using the occasion of the Libby case and trial to analyze the collusion between MSM and BushCo in contemporary American landscape. And Christy should write it. She already has all the material.
As I think about Fitz’s post-trial press conference, I am amused at two things he said. 1 - this investigation is inactive, and 2 - unless new information comes to light.
This amuses me because I can see Fitz is already working to flip Libbey. Fitz is saying to Libby ‘get ready for your 25 years in prison’. And then Fitz says ‘of course, if new information comes to light…such as Libby squeeling like a pig to avoid prison time’.
BIG game of chicken being played right now. Libbey better firm up that pardon promise from W. Judge Walton ran a pretty tight ship for all these proceedings, so an appeal is not automatic.
Jane,
Our victory lap is only possible because of Fitz and his team and because of FDL and your team.
The victory lap(s) and congratulations are for you all!!
Thanks again for this great service to our Country!!
was EPU’d (again) and again and again, threads moving fast!!!!!!
March 6th, 2007 at 11:21 am
thanks for the post (about the juror) jane, (and now marcy)
i was hoping the jury was approaching it and digging through it in a manner that is above reproach…….
hoping the republicans and the democrats everywhere will remember, truth is not partisan, we need more of it expressed and displayed every day…(c’mon out all you closet truth-loving reps and senators)
and to say again, my bumper sticker which i found in wva says:
when you tell the truth you don’t have to remember what you said
and thanks to all who relay the tv stuff, i only get pbs here and am on dial-up so can’t stream anything…….when i had cable, i was a political news junkie…….so thanks for your daily reports……..
and to add on–marcy, i can’t imagine what you and your gang are feeling right now, so won’t try to insert a word that may not describe it, just hope that it is all good, and that what you are feeling right now gets you through a rough day in the future. i wish i had more money to send toward your efforts, and will be sending some when i get a reimbursement soon……..it’s all yours!!!!!!! i know you all will spend it wisely, feels good to be able to say that to someone i don’t even know…….thank you.
and to add on more-
i cannot thank you all enough for how much i have learned in this past month, i read all of the posts and all of the comments….it’s been hard to keep up but i have….i also follow the links…..has pushed my own reading onto the back burner, but been well worth it….i hope you all are feeling the steel-founded strength that you have given all of us out in the netherlands…..and can use it to your own volition…
oh my god joe wilson on npr right now…..all things considered….i love it……just love it….thanks for what i am feeling right now.
Indeed, what a long strange trip it’s been.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vPNgjA4i6gM
Keep on truckin’ FDL, you do indeed rock.
A victory lap and a bow. Curtain calls, especially for FDL’s leading actors. Bravo! Flowers, standing ovations that will not die down.
Calls for encores! because the audience is never satisfied …
That’s my pessimistic opinion, too.
But you know what? No one said we had to make it easy for him.
Oh…and by the way…..don’t we still have another sealed indictment sitting in a drawer somewhere?????
many of us cannot afford to donate much, i was able to buy Marcy’s book. A pittance given for what we have received here. Thank you Mustang, Thank Steelthing. Thank anonymous donors who keep this enterprise afloat. Your gifts are so great. Those of us who cannot afford much are deeply indebted to you.
watching the TV news today mostly on msnbc (on dial up here), listening to the repug pundits..That kool aide is really really strong. They cannot handle the truth ! Here is to watching the wheels fall off this criminal cabal.
Here is to Congress, may they do the right thing, “catch the ball” and seek to IMPEACH.
Thank you FDL !
ding!
This asshole Tucker Carlson is just taking clips out of context and hammering that there was “no underlying crime”> Why, you may ask, am I watching?
Matt Cooper on NPR.
Neil - your #12 emailed to all three of my congresspeople. Thanks.
Cranky
Marcy, Jeralyn, Jane, Christie and all the crew at FDL, you are to be commended for, first, not allowing this case to be relegated to the shadows and more importantly, for establishing the facts of the case clearly as the investigation proceeded and as the case against Libby was made. Sadly, the real crime goes unpunished but the revelations that have emerged and the fact that establishment types like Matthews and Imus became so interested in the trial gave it a lot more juice.
I’d still like to see the minutes from those ultra hush-hush Cheyney energy task force meetings.
LOL! Mathew Cooper using Joe Wilson’s Al Capone getting caught on taxes analogy!
Interested Observer @ 40
Court hearings are not an opportunity to play games. It’s not a question of getting caught, it would never occur to anybody to deviate from the court’s will on an issue like that.
raven:
Tucker is an annoying twit. His voice alone drives me nuts. But sadly, I have to watch him and others for billables, as they say.
Victoria Toensing saying “aba aba aba” on CNN.
i gave to the marcy book fund because i thought it was important and it was the right thing to do. i give to firedoglake becasue they have become like my family and i am just helping out. i lurk, but i lurk many times a day. well done my friends.
…don’t look at on CNN…
It is now clear that the Bush Admin committed treason with Scooters conviction. In RICO the man at the top is responsible.
It is also coming out that plans to destroy Plame’s covert CIA operation Brewster -Jennings was the real target and decided upon before Joe Wilson even wrote his article.
The Joe Wilson smear spin is just that, spin that the MSM has swallowed hook line a sinker. Brewster-Jennings was our Nations most important intelligence operation tracking Nuclear and WMD acquisition and development in the Middle East. Cheney and Bush wanted tnis destroyed so there would be no ‘pissant’ cia trying to meddle in their Iran and Iraq war plans.
It is also rumored that Plame’s Brewster-Jennings just prior to Plames exposure had been instrumental in stopping a load of WMD headed for Iraq through Turkey, and it has been conjectured that this was the shipment and Bush operation to plant the WMD’s in Iraq.
When Brewster-Jennings was destroyed, people were killed as a result and a multi-year and multi-million dollar covert front company was destroyed. Covert front companies are the most complicated covert operations to create, and maintain, and they historically provide the best intelligence.
Bush and Cheney destroyed our nation’s most important and primary WMD/Nuclear proliferation intelligence efforts in the Middle East. And for this they should be tried, impeached and hung for treason.
THIS MUST GET OUT!!!! Write letters to the editors, blogs, websites. Make a stink!!!
Do the research yourself for what I say is true and it is the most disgusting and reprehensible thing that has ever been done to our country.
It is a heinous and treasoness conspiracy with no equal. The Joe Wilson smear angle was BS from the start and is pure Rovian mis-direction. It may even be the case that Cheney’s office sent Wilson to Niger to get the conspiracy and mis-direction rolling.
Think about it, but try to stop from puking or running ro the pitchfork.
My thanks and admiration to all involved in this quest for truth and justice from the first hint of the outing to the guilty verdict today. Occupying a HUGE space in this is the community of Firedoglake and Marcie Wheeler. They may have started out as pound puppies but are now sitting on the podium at Westminister.
For the many who have come to know this place as THE place to get the truth, there were long dry spells but also wicked hope and a growing faith and trust. Everyone from the tiniest cog, to the biggest (empty)wheel can say they had a part in bringing justice to Valerie Plame and the American public when so many administration criminals and press lackeys would have rather seen it buried.
((Hugs)) to you all. *ouch* (I just pulled a muscle trying to get my arms around TRex)
Okay… who is next. My preference, Cheney.
Indeed, while some of us are disappointed at Fitz’s having said that the investigation is now “inactive” (my own reaction, like others here, was, “No!”), Fitz is, of course, not really talking to us, he’s talking to Scooter: You think you’re being left hanging? You really think that you’re the scapegoat, the fall guy? Well, unless you talk, you’re right, I’m done, you’re the only one going to jail, and all your buddies are getting off scot free.
Might not work, but if Scooter (or his family) feel that it ain’t fair, and with jail that much more concrete a vision after today, it just might.
too late on CNN — is it just me, or does Victoria Toensing look like Novak in drag?
“…don’t look at on CNN…”
Coultergist must not be available
Blitzer with Balls? When did this happen?
March 6,2007 “a Day That Will Live in Infamy”
Thanks,firedogs, now let’s get back to work!
have you guys seen the screencap of the Wikipedia page for Libby?
As they say, it is to laugh…
http://www.boingboing.net/2007.....s_all.html
People can email questions (as well as call)
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/
CNN notwithstanding, I am loving watching Victoria Toensing look like a blooming idjit.
Thanks for this victory lap, FDL. That cool wind in my face feels great!
Poor Vicky T. Her lame attempt at jury tampering fell flat.
Maybe she can hop on to the case in Michigan and help the husband accused of dismembering his wife.
She can argue there was no underlying crime.
-GSD
Twolf…. too late!
Still whistling past the graveyard… and it REALLY pisses me off that they never mention her glaring conflict of interest…
Amen.
You have an eternally loyal soldier here, Jane.
Any FDL’ers in Manhattan interested in getting together tonight at a bar to watch the Joe Wilson interview and have a celebratory drink?
Does Libby sit in jail tonight?
*xyz — where in manhattan?
This much shit coming down and we’re not even in the Ides of March.
Hold on to your seats.
OT.
Two US troops dead in Ethiopia. Bush and Cheney are overstretching the military all over the planet. We are like Savoir Faire, we’re everywhere.
Plus the mystery of the dissappearing Iraqi general looks like it may heat up. Israel is on high alert.
Does this mean Collins? If it does, I don’t think Larry - or the CNN promo folks - know what “exclusively” means.
blitzer says: soon - “we’re getting reaction from Dick Cheney”
Jay at 78 — He’s out on bond until sentencing.
Woodhall Hollow - I hadn’t thought that far ahead. I can go just about anywhere that’s convenient for other folks. But I won’t be able to get out of work until around 8pm.
I went over to http://justoneminute.typepad.com/
and tried to explain the whole Fifth Amendment issue with a pardon and they all acted like I was a complete moron and there was absolutely no problem with Libby being pardoned. Oh well. Hopefully they will soon see the light. A toast to FDL!:)
john kerry goes strate to the heart of cheney with this statement
Well done FDL!
Fitz!
Neil @ 38:
I think Fitz COULD constitutionally go after Cheney — in other words, I don’t think the Veep is immune from prosecution until removed from office — but I don’t think he has the goods on Cheney. And the reason he doesn’t have the goods is that Libby lied (not to mention the mysteriously unprosecuted Rove).
Despite Shooter’s high regard for Scooter, he still can deny that he instructed Libby to leak Plame’s status. He can still say, without contradiction, that if Libby leaked, and if Libby lied to the GJ, he was doing so on his own initiative. There is no testimony to contradict that story, and as far as we know, no documents that contradict that story either.
Sure there are documents that strongly suggest Shooter’s role as leak and obstruction mastermind, but “strongly suggest” is not the same as proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
Someone has to turn. Someone has to flip. And I don’t think Libby is going to do it. He’s counting on his pardon, and perhaps Judge Silberman too.
That’s why we need a Congressional investigation.
*xyz — I am 2 subway stops into Brooklyn, so as long as it is not too far uptown I would love to celebrate with nyc firepups.
I’m not sure what apoplexy is, but I hope that’s the reaction we’re getting from Darth Cheney.
I’m off to take a nap - what with a victory lap and doing the Snoopy dance all afternoon, I’m plumb tuckered…
litigatormom @ 89
Very well put, on all counts.
I think he wants to be re authorized…can congress do this?
Oh oh, der Murray Waas”up” is coming out with an
“INSTANT BOOK” on the trial,
lucky us, see Breitbart at http://www.breitbart.com/news/.....T2KO2.html .
Maybe others are more deserving of writing such tome.
Thank you Christy, Jane, and Marcy for keeping this story alive, making it understandable, and making it clear how important it was. You’ll be getting from me asap. A luta continua!
Thank you Fitz, Judge Walton, and jury for your devotion to law (and the Constitution).
And thank you Amb. and Mrs. Wilson for your past service, and your dignity through all this.
Now to resume my dopey grinning that suddenly I can’t seem to stop.
FDL Indeed!!!
I am so proud and appreciative of Jane/ReddHedd and the entire crew they have led and assembled along with the format, tone, approach, the depth of understanding and quality of writing they have applied to this unprecedented crisis of criminality in our government.
This place set the standard and, well, Marcy “wrote the book.”
You folks roped me in almost two years ago when I started coming her almost daily - originally because of the espionage/treason coverage and then for everything great that followed - and today it’s a privilege to be reading this news on the most appropriate forum anywhere.
slainte,
cl
Woodland Hollow - That’s funny - I always thought you lived out in the country somewhere like Vermont, based on your screen name. I will be happy to head somewhere downtown to meet up with folks. Do you have a place in mind?
Has anyone else mentioned Wilson being interviewed by Olbermann tonight?
vicky t. still claiming to have written the IIPA law, and that Valerie wasn’t covert.
on msnbc, buchanan speaks of a call he got from Joe Wilson within the last hour, yelling about something!
Hey, girl power, girl power, Jane and the girls absolutely kicked ass. I’m telling the world if they don’t know already.
I’m sending in some scratch for the future matches! Keep up the AWESOME work Pach, Jane, Christy, Jeralyn, Marci emptywheel, AZ woman, and the others…….a great day for democracy indeed.
and this verdict sure must have made Ted WELL(S) up with tears! sorry couldn’t help the snark! I learned it here :D
Wow - they were sure quick to update this:
http://scooterlibby.com/news/
You guyz rock.
you know what would seal this administrations fate?
libby jumps bail
Great coverage! Thanks for the insight. I still have a question:
If Libby is pardoned, couldn’t he be forced to testify again, maybe by Congress? If he lies again, couldn’t the whole thing start all over again? Does a pardon somehow protect you from future acts?
*xyz — that’s funny since I am from Vermont! No I don’t have anywhere in mind, since I don’t usually go to bars with TVs! But I am flexible below Columbus Circle on the west side or Grand Central on the East.
How else would he know to say hi to Marcy? He must read the Lake.
heh
And Truth takes an Obvious Hill in the battle against Infotainment!
Christy @ 84
How I savour those words: “He’s out on bond until sentencing. ” *slap happy*
sent another contribution today - third during the trial. I hope it helps buy a few new gerbils for the electronic wheel next time there’s a conviction!
perris @104:
I think this administration’s fate is already sealed…it is the rest of us I’m worried about.
Trying to get the lame explanations I’ve been surfing between CNN and MSNBC. Buchannon on Tucker said all he had(paraphrasing) was an obstruction cahrge, not outing a NOC. Why can’t these robots see that the reason Fitzgerald could not go beyond perjury and OBSTRUCTION was because Libby’s lying put up a road block. One thing he did was keep the VP out of the dock and will probably get a pardon. I just bought a 42″ LCD TV and I almost destroyed it when I got to CNN and Blitzer. Morticia Toensing did everything but call Fitz stupid for bringing an indictment against Libby. She can gag a maggot. She and her sleazy husband deserve each other. If I woke up in the morning and found her head on my arm I would chew my arm off at the shoulder just so I wouldn’t have to wake her up.
Why can’t someone on the air simply ask Vicky T…..
“If Valerie Plame Wilson’s identity was NOT classified, why does the indictment and trial documents show that she WAS classified?”
Will nothing shut this [expletive deleted] woman up?!??!????!!!
perris - you know what would seal this administrations fate? libby jumps bail
he’s got a future as a ranch hand in Paraguay
“If I woke up in the morning and found her head on my arm I would chew my arm off at the shoulder just so I wouldn’t have to wake her up.”
LOL
EW, you got company coming from Murray Waas:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin.....-Leak.html
I liked his reporting on the case, so I view it as a welcome complement to EW’s tour de force.
And when does the second edition, “soon to be a major motion picture” glossy of Anatomy of Deceit come out with trial updates?
Thanks again all!
litigatormom at 31
Mygawd. You didn’t deck your “colleague”?
You have buckets more self control than I.
He essentially said, “Don’t you know we have people who take care of that sort of thing?”
as in, heaven forbid he should risk chipping his own perfect manicure, but he assumes justice will be overturned since, of course, that’s the natural order of things in the “real world”.
You keep yer head up, Scarlett, and don’t back up an inch. Tell him you have friends who have friends, and they’ll take care of it. Then flounce off & leave him to ignore the oncoming freight train of justice all by hissownself.
To the lawyers at the Lake….
Fitz’s charge was to determine whether a crime was committed in the leak of Valerie Plame’s identity.
Why would Fitz stop now? Won’t Fitz be talking to Wells soon about a “bargain sentence” in exchange for ratting out the Shooter?
a juror and joe wilson will be on larry king and cnn tonight