
Considering FDL's role in the process of remaking and reforming journalism -- a role highlighted by the signally excellent work done by Jane and Marcy and Company in liveblogging the Libby trial -- I thought it might be appropriate to do a long, rambling post on how American journalism came to be in such dire need of reform.
So settle down, kick off your shoes, crack open a cold one and read on for a highly non-neutral, un-balanced, but scrupulously fact-based (at least, I think so) account of how the American press came to be playing Charles Boyer to our Ingrid Bergman in a decades-long remake of Gaslight.
When I was in college, one of my English classes discussed literary theory. The teacher started us out with Leavis and Lacan, finishing up with the late Canadian author Northrop Frye, who -- quite literally -- wrote the book on the subject. So we dutifully read and absorbed what Leavis and Lacan and Frye had to say about neutrality and balance and the rest, and when it was done we felt ourselves ready to go out and inflict literary and journalistic criticism on the world. And then the instructor introduced us to Terry Eagleton's book Literary Theory.
Remember the first time you read Joseph Conrad? Remember that amazing sensation of seeing all sorts of comforting veils ripped from your mind, the strange sort of harsh three-o'clock-in-the-morning floodlit-crime-scene-video clarity that makes your inner eyes squint from the unaccustomed harshness?
That's what Terry Eagleton was like for me. I didn't agree with everything he said, but that didn't matter -- he got me and everyone else in that classroom to think, seriously think, about the underlying assumptions of the cultural matrix in which we lived, had grown up and were nurtured.
The first thing Eagleton did was to step right up and say that he was a Marxist, and an unabashed one -- something that caused a frisson of tittering amongst the students, in this era when Marxism was a dirty word and liberalism would soon join it on the dirty-word heap.
The second thing he did was to say that there was no such thing as "neutrality" in the Northrop Frye (and Western journalistic) sense of the word. Everyone has a viewpoint and a bias, we cannot exist otherwise, and the honest thing to do is to state the biases clearly so people can use them to gauge what you say. In Eagleton's view, "neutrality" as stated by Frye and by the Western media establishment was a cop-out used to avoid confronting various uncomfortable truths about Western society.
Which brings us to American journalism, circa 2007.
As the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but they are not entitled to their own facts. However, in the name of "neutrality" -- or "balance", as it's more commonly called, especially by FOX News -- the facts have been shoved aside by opinions much if not most of the time in what passes for top-flight journalism.
Much of this is because of a genuine desire on the part of journos to be even-handed and fair, and to show all sides of an issue even when one side is clearly in the wrong. This is often a sign of genuine lefties -- the willingness to bend over backwards so far that occasionally their spines snap. But all too often, I fear that this desire for fairness is window dressing -- conscious or internalized -- on the imperative to please their bosses, the conservative owners of the conservative corporations who own most of our major media outlets, and which benefited mightily from Republican givebacks.
What sorts of bennies did they get? Well, there were such things as the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine under Reagan, the massive corporate tax cuts under Bush, and the gutting of much of the FCC's regulatory authority, particularly its anti-trust regulatory authority.
This, to me, is the main thing that explains the increasingly repeated failure of our big-ticket press corps to see what is right in front of their noses. It is very sad to see this -- especially since the American press, after the yellow-journalistic nadir of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, had been intent on improving itself and shaking off the pernicious influence of William Randolph Hearst. (A discussion of the influence of Hearst on the US press would take up at least two posts in itself.)
How did the press get neutered? What made them regress back to Hearst-esque yellow journalism? How were they conditioned to reject calling 'em as they saw 'em in favor of "fairness" and "neutrality" and "balance" -- a "balance" that keeps getting shoved to the right?
The answer lies in the work of none other than the late William Simon, who some of you may remember as the disgraced ex-President Nixon's "energy czar" in the early 1970s. (His son has connections to Enron, by the way. But I digress.)
As a conservative Republican, Simon was deeply, deeply enraged over the fact that Nixon was laid low. He wanted revenge. More than that, he wanted to engineer a conservative takeover, not just of American media, but of American colleges, legal foundations and research institutions -- the very places most commonly associated with determining what is truth and what is not.
The first stage: Convincing his fellow conservatives to stop giving money to mainstream institutions, and to instead set up or give their money to conservative institutions. Institutions such as colleges (such as Jerry Falwell's Liberty University and Tom Monaghan's Ave Maria College), professional societies (such as the Federalist Society, the conservatives' answer to the American Bar Association), and of course Big Media outlets (such as Sun Myung Moon's Washington Times, Rupert Murdoch's FOX News, Jack Welch's NBC News -- remember, former Republican National Committee Chair Roger Ailes ran NBC's news division before Murdoch hired him to start FOX News in the US -- and most of the AM radio dial after the Fairness Doctrine was killed in 1987).
The second stage: Getting the majority of Americans to accept these conservative outlets as the real arbiters of truth and to discredit the non-conservative versions as "liberal" -- and to do this by muddying the waters where truth is concerned. Their chief weapon: The deliberate confusion/conflation of truth with "balance" and "fairness".
By the time of Bill Clinton's second term, Stage One was all but complete, and Stage Two, especially in the radio part of the media, was well advanced. "Liberal" was now just as much a dirty word as "Communist" or "Nazi" in the American lexicon, and few leading Democratic politicians seemed to be interested in reclaiming it. (Or if they were, the media wasn't about to let us know they existed, unless they could be depicted in an unflattering way: "Hey! Look! There's Fat Teddy Kennedy, spouting off again! Aren't his jowls funny? And John Conyers is such a cranky old Negro!") The alliances between the Republican Party and Big Media were rock-solid, so much so that when the GOP Congress sent the Office of the "Independent" Counsel off on its famed fishing expedition against the Clintons, Big Media happily enabled it.
It didn't matter that the Whitewater real estate scam, which the OIC was supposed to be probing, had already been investigated repeatedly and the Clintons shown to be victims, not instigators; the Whitewater probe was just the cover the Republicans wanted to go digging into Bill Clinton's underwear drawer. (The original OIC chief, Robert Fiske, was forced out of the job by the Republicans before he could shut down shop and issue his findings exonerating the Clintons; Kenneth Starr was selected to replace him, and the rest, as they say, is history.)
And when the OIC found evidence of a sexual affair by Bill Clinton, and looked for ways to criminalize it (they finally settled on trying to create a perjury trap, except that the trap was doomed from the start in that the statement in question had nothing to do with what the OIC was supposed to be investigating), they and their media partners thought they had finally hit on the Conservatives' Holy Grail, the revenge for Watergate that they had sought for so long: The toppling of a Democratic President.
Except that they neglected to consider one thing: The rise of online journalism.
Sure, they knew about the internet. Hell, they even used conservative web gadfly Matt Drudge to put questionably-sourced OIC leaks "in play" so people like Michael Isikoff could crib from them and call it reporting.
But they didn't know about the rest of the internet. Specifically, they didn't know about Salon.com.
Back in early 1998, Salon was just about the only place one could turn to for a concentrated and thorough recital of the actual facts concerning The Hunting of the President -- or CoupGate, to use another term for it. It was just about the only major media source in the US that didn't depict Ken Starr and his crew as knights in shining armor.
Through the coverage provided by Murray Waas and Mollie Dickenson and Joe Conason and a few other brave souls at Salon and elsewhere, we learned things about the OIC that the GOP/Media Complex were at pains to conceal -- such as the connections between Michael Isikoff and Ken Starr and the OIC , who fed him patently illegal grand jury leaks that were often pushed through their mutual friend Matt Drudge so as to put them into "media play". (And let's not even go into Steno Sue Schmidt , who should have asked Ken Starr for a paycheck considering how assiduously she stenographed his agenda for her readers.)
The first flush of Salon's journalistic flower didn't last long -- the burst of the dot-com bubble eviscerated Salon's newsroom -- but it lasted long enough to push back the right-wing coup efforts a couple of years. And that in itself bought us enough time to get Air America and Democracy Radio -- talk-radio aimed at those people who weren't already listening to Pacifica or Democracy Now! -- off the ground, and for the reality-based part of the blogosphere to come into its own. (And it's having an influence on how journalists in Big Media view their methologies and philosophies -- as this blog by Eric Black of the Star Tribune shows.)
And as the castle of lies erected by the Bush Junta comes crumbling down, the people who were Bush's enablers are losing credibility and customers: FOX News' ratings have been on a steady downward slide, the righty blogs of the bigotsphere have lost readers even as the reality-based blogs gain in readership and influence, and we've seen people like Bob Woodward and Judith Miller and Tim Russert, the toasts of their fellow Big Media steno pool members, revealed to be hacks and shills and sell-outs.
We're still outmanned and outspent and outgunned. But our numbers are growing, and we have a big advantage in that it's far less effort to tell the truth than to constantly weave and reweave lies. And as Charles Boyer found out in Gaslight, even the best lies eventually fall apart of their own sheer weight.
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A zero for the land down under, now to read the post….
I see four lights
Great post, I’ll tell the folks downstairs that it’s up
If someone were to start an Objective News Network, or buy an existing one and turn it objective, they could potentially clean up.
But it’ll never happen.
I thought so.
And Michelle Maulkkkin is getting a “Truth In Journalism” award and Ollie North gets one for defending the constitution. Talk about Orwellian.
Oilfieldguy @ 7
Get out! That’s too much.
Good post, PW. I wonder if posts like this is what Jamison Foser was talking about:
Clearly they don’t know that I post here occasionally.
Grandpa OFG!!! Congrats on the next little one.
PW- This is such a good post. It should be run more than once so many will see it.
In the meantime, Spotlight-Spotlight.
Oilfieldguy @ 9
All well and good, but how many people read them? Fortunately, they do manage to get under the mainstream media’s skin every once in a while, but if the media just decided to ignore them (and us) completely one day, I’m not really sure what we could do about it.
Very well done and informative.
The only thing I would add is the influence of The Powell Manifesto
Summary by Jerry Landay
Now, I have to go and click the links you gave
john in sacramento @ 13
Not to be confused with the (Michael) Powell Doctrine…
Elliott @ 8
Read it and weep. from the latimes:
(my bold)
I misread it. Ollie North is a presenter of the “Defender of the Constitution Award” not the recipient.
Spotlight- Anyone know if the comments are sent along with the main post?
ReneND @ 17
I assume there would be a link to the main post, yes? The comments would certainly be there if they were to click on the link (not sure how likely that would be).
Oilfieldguy @ 16
(my bold)
I misread it. Ollie North is a presenter of the “Defender of the Constitution Award” not the recipient.
That’s almost the same thing.
Thanks for the quote and link.
North should still be in a lock box at Leavenworth for Iran-Contra, including the shredding.
And Michelle, we’d all be better off if she wore a muzzle.
EPUd, but:
Pachacutec @
68
Pach, are you referring to this by chance?
Egregious last thread, I am now dug out from the last big snow. We had over 2 feet in two weekend dumps.
Now it just looks pretty out. Taking the mini-rogs out skiing tomorrow. Wish me luck!
Balrog @ 21
I would think Balrogs and skiing really would not mix…
Hey Balrog—-good luck.
Eli @ 21
Shows what YOU know.
egregious @ 24
They have to wear some kind of specially insulated snowsuits, right?
As a collection, the left blogosphere has many more readers than most of of our big dailies, like the NYT and such. At least that’s what I understand. The shift is the iimportant thing, the rebirth of populism and the realization by the land of the rest of us, in Drifty’s words, the elite 1% would work us until we die in our traces and harvest our organs.
The movement is on, slow and steady, not as fast as Pach and Christy or the rest of us would like. All we can hope to do is give it shape and targets.
Thanks egregious. I’m off now good firepups. We have an individual artist fundraiser tonite here in OKC called “Biting The Apple.” As a local playwright, I must corral my posse of hot babes to escort me to the event. Ta Ta.
(Grandpa–hahahahaha)
Eli @ 22
Think the Abominable putting the star on the X-Mas tree in Rudolph.
‘Bumbles bounce!’
New Grandpa OFG at 15, either way. Horseshit.
At court yesterday SEVERAL people came up to me and whispered—
“You’re from [looking around] THAT BLOG right? I just wanted to let you know that I and lots of other people read you very carefully and thank you for what you are doing. I’m in profession X.”
It got to be where I could tell on approach whether they were coming over to compliment my Louboutins or our blog.
Yes, lots of people are reading us. But they are afraid. Hm wonder why.
Oilfieldguy @ 26
Is that really the target, though? I’m a lot more worried about TV and radio.
Oilfieldguy @ 26
don’t hurt yourself! ;)
egregious @ 29
Oh wow, that’s exciting!
Heck, it’s been exciting just being here in the comments!
The panel topic? “The Left’s Repeated Campaign Against the American Soldier.”
I posted concerns about the March 17th March in DC and the right wingers campaign to inflame people by saying the march is going to start at the Wall. There are several groups including Rolling Thunder and A Gathering of Eagles that are encouraging vets to come “protect the Wall”. It wouldn’t take much to turn this into a melee and I’m hoping the march organizers have enough control to keep the groups apart.
I heard Markos on Air America today. 500,000 hits a day, and far more during election time. That’s about what Chicago Sun’s readership is. Pretty darn good.
don’t hurt yourself! ;)
Yes, you know what happened to TRex with his contorted yoga poses. ;)
egregious @ 28
Maybe there needs to be an untraceable, anonymous email tip line set up. Gonna be more and more truth telling now that the bloom is off the rose.
Elliott @ 31
Yeah, well, I had trouble remembering to breathe my first day. But it’s getting better. Lots of support from y’all helps more than you might imagine. It’s very stressful, and only looks easy. Major kudos for the people who have organized all this.
Terry Olson @ 34
But how many of those hits are unique individuals, rather than the same people clicking back repeatedly? I’m sure the true number of Kos readers is still very large, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near 500,000.
Still a newbie ’round here and feeling my way around, but I just did my first spotlight of this very post.
urban pirate @ 35
I think you would be surprised at the source of some information making it onto the blogs.
A truly superb post!
Too bad that your post is not on the front page above the fold of the NY Times & WaPo. It would be an eye opener for almost everyone.
Coincidentally, within a year of Gaslight there was another memorable movie that is worth seeing again & again. Mildred Pierce
http://www.moviesunlimited.com.....sku=D36911
LoudounLib @ 38
YAY YOU!!!
Fun, ain’t it?
Fantastic post.
Liberals have to follow the Simon model and put money into honest liberal journalism and media. (And I’ll settle either for honest journalism or liberal journalism, but why not have both?) The reluctance of the liberal money people to support media is puzzling, and it’s been disastrous.
A lot of people zero in on individual reporters, but the reporters all know what their bosses want. The problem is at the top. And no one ever says this, but Graham and Sulzberger at the Post and Times are bad guys. You’re wasting your time waiting for the Times or the Post to get any better, because their owners like them the way they are.
Eli @ 37
True.
My rant about Walter Reed is over at egregiousBlog.
http://mcegregious.blogspot.co.....nough.html
The right is gonna blame this on Clinton’s defunding the VA system.
Count on it.
I say we’ve got to understand the facts and be ready to get the truth out there.
[Mod Note; edited to include correct link.]
egregious @ 41
Yes indeed - it could become a habit! ;-)
LoudounLib @ 38
And you can do 10 at a time. Then 10 more. Then…
ReneND @ 45
Ah, lightbulb moment! ;-)
AAAARRRGGGHHH
Correct link:
http://mcegregious.blogspot.co.....nough.html
But but but….
Eagleton comes from the Barry McCabe box in proclaiming his famous neutrality the while running a sub-text of aiming to destroy the social structure. McCabe, of course recanted in old age: he was after all a genuine intellect. Something dishonest in Eagleton, perhaps his arrogance, seems to prevent him from crawling back under his stone.
While cruisin’ the Google on an unrelated search, I found this gem by Rick Perlstein. He relates some of the ideas he put forth in his book The Stock Ticker and the Superjumbo: How the Democrats Can Once Again Become America’s Dominant Political Party.
Some excerpts:
What happened to EDIT?
I’m within the 5 minute period….
Throwing myself on the mercy of the lovely, lovely, hardworking mods :o
urban pirate @ 36
IhopeIhopeIhope
I deeply luv our mods :)
THANK YOU. You rock.
IIRC I heard that “edit” was disabled during the Libby verdict watch to spare the poor servers.
However I just edited this post. Ignore me.
Renee in Ohio @ 3
Thanks for the great link!
Wonderful blog. For a long time now I have not relied upon MSM for my news opting for NPR and the NewsHour and whatever else I can select on-line. Until this Libby trial I had no idea that FDL existed and only happened upon it. And now, I cannot tear myself away. It is biased, but I agree with the blog that all news is biased. All historical reporting is biased for that matter. Integrity lies in acknowledging this and encouraging critical response. This blog is a valuable asset and I am happily pressing the button to put money where my fingertips are. Thank you FDL.
John Emerson @ 42
Actually the biggest problem at the WaPo is Len Downie, the editor. He “cut his journalistic teeth” at Ohio State, editing the student paper there and supporting the administration against student free speech supporters. No stripes have been changed on THIS zebra.
I’m sure I speak for all when I say thank you right back Teresa. Come back often.
I love Gaslight.
and all of the actors and Ms. Bergman.
Teresa 1958 @ 55
Kind words Teresa and Welcome to the Lake.
I know there is a limit to the length of a post but you really should spend some time on the rise of the news anchor “star” and the Q ratings.
Once the networks moved to attracting viewers based on looks and appeal, the intelligent reporter was pushed into the background. Ted Baxter (Mary Tyler Moore Show) is alive and well on most cable and newwork news shows. The pay scale for top reporters also pushed them into the social circles of the powerful that they were covering. Must be tough to do a hard hitting story on a member of your golf club.
The other fact is that reporters today are very uneducated. Sure they may a degree in “Communications” but how does that prepare them to cover politics, history and accounting are the areas of study reporters should be schooled in. They need to know why and how politicians steal power and money.
I think we all agree that most reporters are lazy. Not that they don’t work hard but they do not work smart. They would rather be spoon fed a story that to spend the time researching all avenues of information. For christ sake, you would think with access to Nexus/Lexus and Google they would be overwhelmed with data.
There is fairness in reporting, there is not absolute truth. Your professor had it backwards.
The Powell Manifesto, “Businessmen of the world, unite. You have nothing to lose but your silk neckties.”
Basic problem, the left is focused on attacking a wealth of problems, from social injustice to environmental degradation to unequal economic access. The right is focused on attacking the left.
Proposal, that we define a few bumper sticker ideas that are axiomatic such as “The purpose of government is to do things for the people that they cannot do for themselves” or “Government solves problems every day the postman comes.”
From axioms that run counter to the Ridiculous Reagan Rubric ” nine most feared words (I’m from the government and I’m here to help), develop postulates that apply to specific issues. It does require organization, which has not only been our weak point it is almost antithetical to our purpose of weakening the power of large organizations.
We are getting better, as witness that I can post this comment. Makes me wonder if the right had forseen the power of the net, would they have been so enthusiastic to embrace it?
angie @ 59
Angie -
Don’t forget Angela (Lansbury)
One of my favorite explanations of the difference between “being neutral” - which often means stenographer to a liar and “being objective” is the “Death Star” analogy:
as explained by Cenk: http://www.dailykos.com/storyo...../133210/10
There are not too many objective folks left.
slainte,
cl
Now I have read back up the line.
I suppose FDL is Left compared with Bush and most of his Republican pals, but to apostrophize it as “Left” means it is biassed leftwards as the Limbaughs, Coulters, Malkins and anyone at Fox is Right.
FDL strikes me as objective, realist and correct! The Left, Over There where the Left has always had a strong voice, from strong Socialist on left to out-and-out Cmmunist, has been the trimmers of the truth.
KEEP GOING, please!
I came here having spent most of my life considered as being right of Attila and having worked in the rightist party in three countries. It took little time to consider the Republican party to contain a solid and dangerous rump of Fascists, now a great deal even more dangerous having handed itself over to the Neocons, the crazed Fascist (Netanyahu Pere Founder) section of The Lobby.
Organic George @ 60
That’s how the term COCKTAIL WEENIE was born here. More concerned about the cocktail parties.
Caoimhin Laochdha @ 64
a must read,
thanks cl
Balrog @ 19
LOL. I loved those comics. I had Dan Martin books.
What a great post - but reading it makes me mad - and makes me scared, like I am everyday - at the rightwing’s fascist domination of our Fourth Estate and the destruction of our democracy.
It’s sure a constant, steep, uphill battle, ain’t it? One we all fight everyday. It’s just so discouraging sometimes - and so aggravating. But we all wake up every morning and know we have no other choice. In our own ways we all keep doing as much as we can because we know we either keep fighting - harder, smarter, more honestly - getting some encouragement from our small and our occasional large victories - or else it’s over…
Thanks Renee ND, this is such a great group. You all resore my faith in humanity and humor!!
PW, I certainly agree with you about Salon being absolutely critical in the late 90’s as a central focus for information critical of the “Take Down Bill Clinton” forces. Without it and its independent investigative Journalists few would have had access to the factual data base with which to take on the right. I would actually take Salon and its message boards in 98 as the raw material necessary for the founding of Censure and Move On, now simply shortened to Move on. Polls showed Clinton remained popular, and through Salon’s journalism and the Move-on movement, the strength of those numbers were provided to a congress that might have gone all mushy on us.
But this sequence demonstrates something else — the fragmentation of media (and it is getting more so) and the necessity of having to create in the midst of a constitutional crisis a whole new organization. We really didn’t have reliable institutions that could dependably pick up and do advocacy. Unlike in 98 there are now hundreds of sites that provide E-Mail “heads-up” notices, links to data collections and analysis, and additional links to sites where you can write Congresspersons or Senators, or otherwise engage in limited political advocacy. And this all comes complete with ways to donate to candidates taking your position. (just ask Lamont, Webb and Welsh how valuable that was when it was needed.) Just as MSM talks about convergence — this is a new convergence on the progressive side of things. So how to strengthen it — what are the potential weaknesses?
Up front — one weakness is the lack of means to put independent news gatherers into the field as needed. That still makes us dependent on what Major Media choose to deploy assets to cover. Somehow we need the financial resources to support putting freelancers with expertise in the field on demand and to some degree task them to address questions not covered in major media. It is being done with donations right here on Firedoglake sending Jane, Chisty, Marcy and others to the DC Courthouse, but this is just a first effort at direct alternative coverage with different kinds of reporters. We have to create hundreds of such efforts, and find a way to properly financially support them.
Then we have to work at this “convergence” thing — issue by issue, narrative by narrative we need to be addressing existant movements, or potential movements and providing the support necessary that they become effective citizen lobbyies.
Phoenix Woman
Thank you,
this is a valuable, and wonderful, post.
Elliott @ 63
She is a peach! Got my Bedknobs and Broomsticks right ‘ere.
restore, sorry!
Eli @ 29
We ARE TV and radio. And we’re as close to live as CNN. and in 22 months fdl and crooks&liars and kos will be able to assimilate and deliver rational information 2x faster than we can today. And 22 months later, we’ll be 2x faster again.
Meanwhile, the MSM is stuck in their paradigm/schtick, falling further and further into the
gutter, uh, margin. No wonder they hate us and revile us so. Look at egregious’s # 28 for further proof.Time to invite Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzales to fdl for a guest post or interview.
Teresa 1958 @ 68
Teresa 1958 @ 68
You want humor? Don’t miss TRex on Late Night.
thanks for helping to set the
rightrecord straight with truth…The time is out of joint; O cursed spite,
That ever I was born to set it right!
Hamlet
angie @ 73
But creepy in The Manchurian Candidate
It’s been fun but I gotta run
L8r
Excellent Post, PW!!! Great to have you posting here.
God it pisses me off to no end.
I had no idea of Isikoff’s role. More corruption. Sigh.
There’s literally billions of dollars in the trough if the republicans gain/maintain power (Taibbi’s piece said the tax cuts benefitted the Walton family alone by $40 BN), so it’s not surpising they’ve poneyed up so much for so long.
These are the same people now extolling “bi-partisanship” (date-rape) and imploring us to reduce the rancor. THey’re terrified people will storm the castles now the a little truth has seped through.
I fear that if we don’t storm the castles we may go beyond the point of no return.
The internet caught them off-guard. We are lucky to get some breathing room. I’m not so sure the puppet masters will let that happen for long.
I have just recently logged on and may have missed the answer to this question, but does anyone feel that NPR has been way too middle of the road borderline sympathetic to the current administration talking points on a number of issues. I am thinking specifically of Nina Totenbergs reporting on the Libby trial.
I forgot to mention - great post, Phoenix Woman.
Ed*ard Teller @ 75
It’s not a question of whether we can match TV & radio in function or content, it’s a question of whether we can match TV & radio in terms of *reach* - that’s where I’m worried.
Teresa 1958 @ 56
Welcome to the Lake!
Yes, indeedy!
petedownunder @ 54
petedownunder!
We would never ignore you.
For one thing, you’ve got the good weather. Send some our way please?
Ok, just cause I love you guys so much, here are some more thoughts on being in court yesterday.
Preview—
Truth and beauty: our weapons.
jeffreyw @ 83
Yep.
A year ago and many times since, I have asked for this to happen.
It’s the future.
Teresa 1958 @ 79
I agree in general, but as to Nina, I have not listened to her for so long I can’t give an answer, other than to note some of the live bloggers in the media room for the trial seem to enjoy her company.
I said the other day that we need FDL XM. No one can sit at the computer to get all of the news that you need.
On that note I’m off to finish a grout project.
BTW, those 12 year olds on HGTV doing this kind of project between commercials are getting lots of help. Who knew?
Eli @ 82
If you look at the growth of readership at progressive blogs since 2004 compared to the drop in readership and viewership of MS flagship relics (and newer models, like FOX), there will soon be an intersection of “reach.” We will win. Not only that, but because our platform is all about innovation and theirs is all about keeping what they have, it will just get more and more fascinating watching them spiral downward.
Thanks Urban Pirate! This FDL participation is gratifyiing because I work in Chicago for a state agency no less where Fitzgerald is both feared and villified, and I have no commrades to chearlead him on with. So you all at FDL fill a huge void not only with respect to news access but hugely valuable commraderie. THANK YOU!!
Eli @ 37
At my humble blog I’ve got over 1,000 profile views.
Some of those are even from other people! :)
ET you still on?
Wanted to tell you of my brother who got his fellow brass players to play a 5th halleluia in the Messiah at a public concert.
Needless to say the conductor was Not Amused.
I doubt anyone else even noticed.
Teresa 1958 @
80