
(The Monteverde Artista, a gorgeous pen at a good price.)
Okay, gang, I got nothin' tonight, so we're going to talk about pens. Those of you who find this topic to be a total snooze would be advised to come back tomorrow night for your regularly scheduled snark fest. As for the rest of you, I'm going to do my damnedest to make this into an informative and entertaining post, although I have to tell you that my New Best Friend the heating pad has been stuck to me like velcro off and on for most of the day and the constant soothing warmth has got me all drowsy and lackadaisical. *Streeeeeeeeeeetch* Yawn. *blink, blink*
(And yes, my back is feeling much, much better today. Thanks for all of the helpful advice and support last night, gang! You RAWK!!)
So! Some of you have indicated to me in previous pen threads that you're interested in getting a nice pen, but you're not sure where to start. Some of you wrote with fountain pens in middle school or even younger and you'd like to have one, or you've always wanted to try one, or you've even had some old cheap fountain pen that spat ink all over you and made a huge mess, dripped inside its cap, and generally was a monumental pain in the ass.
A problem with buying fountain pens in the US is that many stores and catalogs only carry the most expensive and luxurious pens since those are the ones with the highest profit margins. Most pen companies make student models, cheaper pens for everyday use, and they're a great place for anyone to start. And to my thinking, there is no better student pen than the Waterman Kultur:

About the only reliable stateside source of these little beauties that I have been able to find is eBay. They run from $15 to $20 and come in fine and medium nibs and in a dizzying array of colors and finishes. One thing that they all have in common, however, is the clear feed:

The feed is the part of the pen the ink travels through on its way to the nib. As you and your pen become better acquainted, you will find that the patterns that form in the feed can get downright psychedelic. I like to see how things work and before I bought some Kulturs from eBay, I had never seen exactly how ink flows through the pen to the page. Now, of course, I think it's the coolest thing since sliced bread.
The Kultur is the same model, basically, as the Waterman Phileas, which is widely available in the US, but usually at an inflated price and to me, frankly, they're just not as cool looking. In the last few years, I have begun to eschew gold-tone fittings on my pens. It's just a personal preference. Just like I wouldn't wear phony gold jewelry, I don't really want my pen to, either, and all the Phileas models and colors come with gold-tone clips and bands. Plus, whereas the Kultur will only set you back twenty bucks, the Phileas sells for about twice as much. Waterman pens can use cartridges or converters and work with a wide variety of brands of cartridge including Private Reserve, Pelikan, and of course, Waterman.
Now. Say you've got the hang of this fountain pen thing and you'd like to get hold of a nicer model, but you still don't want to shell out a hundred bucks or more for some fancy-shmancy piece of Austrian pocket jewelry. Or you want to get a gift for that certain elegant someone in your life who likes to write and could use a nice pen.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, meet my favorite new pen of 2007, the Monteverde Artista:

Monteverde is an American company that seems to be intent upon creating several lines of lovely, affordable pens. I have a Monteverde Mauna Kea (as do a few of our readers) and it's one of the best pens I've owned in the last decade or so. It's tough, reliable, and incredibly comfortable to write with. Some of your less exhorbitantly priced pens are nice to sign things with and make the occasional note in your address book, but if you write with them for more than a page or two they start to make your fingers and hand hurt. Not so the Mauna Kea. It's smooth sailing even after pages and pages of work.
This bodes well, to my thinking, for the Artista, which retails for about $60, but I've been seeing them a lot of places for about $50. A clear pen is called a "demonstrator" model, mainly because for decades, these were display pens, meant to show the inner workings of the pen to prospective customers, but generally not for sale. Over the last couple of years, demonstrator pens have become increasingly popular, but are often hamstrung by their designers' lack of foresight. Too many times, the pen itself is gorgeous, but the converter or cartridges are just plug ugly, which kind of defeats the purpose of having a see-through pen.
The Artista is stainless steel and clear resin from one end to the other. It takes the same kinds of cartridges as the Waterman and also comes with a converter for bottled ink and, in a surprisingly cool bit of design, even the back of the nib is clear:

I am guessing that turns the color of whatever ink you're using.
Rowr!!
Now, I can hear some of you in the audience slapping your foreheads and exclaiming, "Jeez, fifty bucks for a pen?!" The thing to remember is that a good fountain pen, if properly maintained, will work for the rest of your life. This isn't a 99 cent Biro to use until it dies and then throw into the landfill. It's a personal tool that will get better and better the more you use it and maybe someday, it will be something that you pass on to your kids, grandkids, nieces and nephews, etc.
Both of these pens are steel nibs. There is a school of thought among pen geeks that anything less than a 14K gold nib is like brushing your teeth with sandpaper, but you know, I have one pen with a 21K nib and it's almost too smooth for me. Slippery. I find myself gripping the pen with a death-grip just to feel like I have control of it. Ultimately, I really like steel nibs. Maybe that makes me some kind of Philistine, but it also means I can buy a whole lot more pens for a whole lot less money.
Personally, once I get a few bills knocked out this month, I think I'm going to be ordering myself an Artista. It's just too good to pass up. It comes with a converter and a brace of ink cartridges (pictured at the top of this post). Me, I only really use blue inks, so if any of you guys want to call dibs on the other colors, let me know, okay?
Here are some quality pen retailers:
Fahrney's Pens: Located in Washington, DC, this is Christy's favorite pen shop.
Art Brown: Located in New York City, this is my personal favorite, just because their prices and selection are second to none.
Colorado Pen Direct: These guys have an incredible selection, but are sometimes on the pricier side.
Swisher Pens: Ugly website, good pens.
Fountain Pen Domain: Another unattractive website with a great selection.
Any other questions you may have, I'll be here in the comment thread to answer as best I can. Enjoy!
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Trex!!!
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Trex!
How is your back tonight and did you follow the ice-it advice from last night???
Ah, fountain pens! I have an El Cheapo see-through pen of uncertain lineage; I’ve been debating picking up another, better pen.
My issue with pens is being a lefty. It is a pain, where ink is concerned.
I truly love what we used to call “mechanical pencils.” Love that fine line, love that it erases cleanly.
Hey TRex- just as I was asking about Late Nite… were your ears burning?
So, just a quick comment before I totally zone out. But, fountain pens…. these are not friendly to lefties, of the hand variety. Unless there has been a major shift in fountain pen awareness…
The velcro-ed heating pad would suggest that the ice suggestions were not well received…
bg- SNAP!
Trex, you should send Judge Walton a pen to sign the order sending Libby to the Big House, the Slammer!!
A PEN IN SPACE
When NASA first started sending up astronauts, they quickly discovered that ballpoint pens would not work in zero gravity. To combat the problem, NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion to develop a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, underwater, on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures ranging from below freezing to 300 degrees Celsius.
The Russians used a pencil.
http://www.wocka.com/690.html
VG–a lefty. And also loves cats.
Just saw this at rawstory:
New Orleans courts in decay: Federal report says justice is ‘unavailable’ for New Orleans’ poor.
Sadly, my first thought was, “Things are finally getting back to normal there.”
Trex, isn’t “I got nothing tonight” pretty much what you said last night? And look what happened! I wasn’t there, but I heard you may have broken records.
Pens?
I’m pretty indifferent to them, but, Old School that I am, I LOVES a good mechanical pencil, which I use a lot for roughing out music charts (before I put ‘em in Finale on my iMac for that finished look).
_
bg @ 12
cats- you or me or both?
Both. And both.
I spoke to two friends with extensive knowledge of back and other athletic injuries and they both said that ice is only to be applied to traumatic injuries in the immediate aftermath to stop swelling (if you just did you knee in and it’s swelling up to grapefruit size, for example). Otherwise, it’s heat, heat, heat.
good nite pen pals! cul8tr
Hi TRex and all….. been at client meetings since Monday with NO Toobz … was in pretty full blown withdrawal by Wednesday…..
TRex… glad your back is better….. alternating ice and heat, walking twice a day (recommended by my neuro-surgeon) and then exercising to strengthen your core.
And for the post…. another factoid I can put in my little old brain file cabinet and can boor my co-workers with my trivia knowledge!
Jeezus, George Miller ‘08!
That’s more like it.
TRex- sorry I missed the story- did this have anything to do with YOGA?
Reading FDL has made me pine for quill pens:
“When in the course of human events . . .”
John Hancock had style, and you know that quill pen looked oh-so-tasty as it dipped into the ink well to sign the Declaration.
katymine in the house!!!
What up?
I got laid off today. Surreal.
_
Ann in AZ @ 14
Well, you know how it is. A dino can’t be a genius EVERY night. It would place an undue strain on my poor walnut-sized brain.
BobbyG @ 24
Whaattt?
Valley Girl @ 22
Yes, he said sheepishly.
Bobby G–ouch!!
The psychedelic patterns - got any more on that? Or a link?
Or does seeing them require special chemical assistance? :-)
TRex @ 27
oh dear, I am sorry about that.
Trex, that was terrible. And I didn’t even read it. So there. hahaha. What I mean to say is. I’m going to bed and. Oh, the snow. My head hurts from shoveling.
Valley Girl @ 26
Yeah, Fucking got RIF’d. Medicare recission of some of our contract funds. Seven of us got canned. One day notice. Boom. Gone.
_
Markinsanfran @ 29
Well, the thing is that people almost never photograph their pens with ink in them. They want you to be able to see the lines and parts.
Trust me, though, you don’t need hallucinogens. It’s lovely au naturel.
My Montblanc fountain pen leaks again. Frustrating. It now is consigned to standing in an empty vitamin jar tucked inside a pewter Tabasco holder only to be used when I’ve an abundance of time to rinse, fill, wipe and write.
TRex, love your pen tales.
Hysterical spaniel tail now waving frantically beside me…blizzard be damned, it’s time for an outing.
G’night, pups. Keep the faith and
ADB HRC
As a struggling college student I used to use very generic fountain pens. I fell in love with them, but am the rarest of all combinations: a tightwad gay man. Who knew they existed? I just have never been in a position to justify purchasing a good fountain pen. Unfortunately I am also struck with a notion that when it comes to things that define you–and yes, using a fountain pen defines you as a person–that you don’t skimp.
But when law school comes around…oh yes. I shall be following Mr. TRex here’s advice. Though- how a dinosaur writes with those gimpy little arms is beyond me.
Look at the nib on that Monteverde! It looks like you could pave a road with it.
Hi Bobby G… I had internet for a few minutes last night… heard about your layoff….
I wish you a speedy resolution of the situation…
So can someone give me the reader’s digest of what I missed in the last 4 days?
Lets see… No verdict…. Cheney almost made a martyr… still have that picture of TRex doing yoga in my brain… Anything else?
BobbyG- that is terrible. I trust/ fervently hope your local support system is in place.
(((((((bobbyG)))))))
I’m off to Fitzgerald’s court tomorrow and humbly ask your prayers/positive energy thx must sleep now
——————egregious
Lamy pens are so sexy. The Safari fountain pen is gorgeous and adorable.
http://coloradopen.com/categor.....ntain_Pens
My pen!
TRex @ 18
Yup. There’s a reason that Bikram Yoga is so popular: Heat loosens up cramped muscles and helps the blood to circulate and remove toxins and such.
I love using my Lamy pen when writing. It’s cute and wonderful to use.
http://coloradopen.com/categor.....ntain_Pens
katymine @ 37
LOL!!! Thanks. So, I’m sittin’ in my group exit interview, and my cell phone rings. It’s this dude from a VAR of an electronic medical records system we’ve been involved with, based in SoCal. They wanna talk to me about coming to them.
So, I’m good. My big issue at the moment is me Ma down in FL. She just got out of a month in the rehab hospital, and is not OK. Doc is saying “nursing home.” Shit. I’m checking flight schedules.
_
I love to see fountain pens spotlighted! I’ve been using and collecting them for several years. I’ll be interested in knowing if there’s a staining problem on the clear feed of your Arista.
Oh, and I think this is my first time posting here, though I’ve been reading for a long time.
{{{{{{Bobby G}}}}}}}}
Almost Layoff #1 - unscheduled company wide meeting in lunch room with two women with suits and manila envelopes… everyone else was going to be RIF…. except the nurses…
Layoff #1 (for real)- manager in the office before 7 am(unheard of) and unscheduled meeting, two women in suits with manila envelopes…. now they layoff the nurses!
Layoff #2 - One BIG national insurance company buys out the little state wide HMO where they had told us for 6 months that the nurses jobs are safe…… two women in suits with manila envelopes lay off the nurses from the little company.
Layoff #3 - unscheduled meeting in the lunch room…. two women in suits with manila envelopes ….. I walk in the room and say “FUCK …. WE are going to get laid off”…. OH man was I attacked for that one!
Little SF bay area quake . . . TRex, you stompin’ around again?
Prairie Sunshine @ 34
I am not a fan of Montblanc pens. There’s a number of reasons, but let’s just say that the main one is that they’re more for looking at than actually using.
Send it back! They’re supposed to have a lifetime guarantee!
Cool commentary. I never knew that pens could come at a price of $800 and up until I went to Fahrney’s in D.C. But, I will look for your recommendations. They all looked terrific. Thanks. I love pens, fine points only.
RevJen @ 45
Welcome, sweetie!
Since most inks are water soluble, I am thinking that it should just wash right off the feed. But since all my inks are shades of blue, it doesn’t matter so much to me.
Peterr - I felt that little shaker. Gaia is alive.
Poprocks @ 43
I got the Vista, which is a Safari demonstrator. It’s cool, but not really me, so I sent it to my Dad today.
Well that settles it - I am going to get myself a nice fountain pen to go along with the antique inkwell passed down to me from my Grandma. Thanks for the push, TRex, and for all the great info! Am totally exhausted from last night’s “coming out party”, but I wanted to at least say something tonight!
quake stats
4.2 2007/03/01 20:40:00 37.901N 122.098W 16.6 2 km ( 1 mi) NE of Lafayette, CA
don’t spill your ink
OK all you fountain pen folks, what nib do you prefer
Fine medium or broad?
I’m a medium myself.
Oh, a little dirty hippie shake this evening out California way?
shaker was a 4.2 according to the usgs and was centered berkeley
TRex, have you ever tried one of the Namiki pens with the retracting nib, and if so, what did you think of it? It seems a little blasphemous, but I’m getting tired of finding limpid pools of blue-black ink at the bottom of my briefcase and such. (I have a dozen or so fountain pens of various types, all of which leak like Karl Rove.)
It must be hard to refill a fountain pen with those teeny little forelegs of yours.
just updated it to centered in lafayette, east of berkeley
4.2 quake, felt like more
TRex- do you happen to remember the Sterling Silver Parker pen and pencil set I told you about? (and also linked?) way back when? Alas, I deleted the pix or I would send you a link. You said it might be “space age” inspired, or something like that.
Pens, a subject I enjoy. I like the XF nibs, when possible. The very fine line looks good for flowing script.
Have had great luck with Rotring Art Pens. Their steel nibs are quite smooth. The new Core are funky looking, fun and smooth.
Cross had a line at one time which had excellent nibs for F and XF. Quite cheap for what they were.
Pelican had a line of student pens that were worthwhile as well.
Then by hanging out in old jewelry stores you can get new old stock. Parkers, Sheaffers, etc… Usually for their 1960-70’s prices.
Ebay is a good place as well.
A note. You can hone fountain pen nibs to smooth out rough or scratchy surfaces. Some may say extrememly fine grit sand paper but that isn’t right.
Drafting film (mylar) will act as super fine paper and your can make even the roughest nib silky. 81/2 x 11 sheets are cheap. Just hold the pen as normal and write, draw circles,etc…until the scratch disappears. May take time and reworking but with it you can make the cheapest/worst pen write better than that $1000 Euro model.
thanks for the links-
Thanks for the welcome!
It’s also great to see you highlight Fountain Pen Domain and Swisher Pens. Both of those guys are small operations and dedicated to quality and service. Both also tend to give pretty good discounts, as does Fountain Pen Hospital. Colorado Pen tends not to discount.
LoudounLib @ 53
Which one is interesting to you, LL? I can help you with this.
Remember, you never throw a fountain pen away! It’s environmentally responsible!
TRex @ 18
Hmmmm. My doctor insists on ice, ice, ice for any kind of injury or inflammation - or ice & heat.
But if heat works for you, that’s great.
I never got the hang of fountain pens - I always ended up with my fingers covered in ink.
I couldn’t believe there was a rollerpen on the Art Brown web sit for $1,450. Yikes - that’s more than a good computer.
NormalLiberal @ 58
I’ve tried the Namiki/Pilot Vanishing Point. They write well and work well. I find it not natural to grip with the clip down by my fingers, but lots of my friends love them.
Isn’t the quake rated on both intensity and duration? I felt sharp jolt but no duration.
I was told ice for the first 24 then heat but then I was also told that your body will tell you which one works best - ice or heat. TRex, hope you get those kinks worked out of that humongous set of vertebrae you have there.
My back’s best friend is my heating pad.
NormalLiberal @ 58
I think those pens are kind of gimmicky. A lot of people are just wild about them, though. I’ve used one once and it was pretty good, but not really my style.
I like a Medium Monteverde nib, but a Fine Waterman.
joysness @ 55
I tend to prefer a Fine or, if the nib is oversized, an Extra Fine. For some writing, though, a broad stub nib is nice and can provide nice variation in line width. And I’ve grown to like some flex in the nib. I find pens like the Lamy Safari kind of like writing with a nail. A little flex is more comfortable.
TRex @ 18
Another heating pad suggestion — microwave beanbag heating pads. Ms. Redshift has one and loves it for her back problems; it’s very useful for bedtime. Since it gradually cools off, unlike an electric heating pad, you don’t have to worry about leaving it on all night, and you have more control over the heat level than with the single-use drugstore heat patches.
Not knowing a whole lot about fountain pens (yet!) I would probably lean towards a Waterman, only because I’ve heard of them, or towards your new fave as noted above. And I’m all about being environmentally conscious, and the idea of using a fountain pen definitely appeals!
T Rex! glad to hear your back is better
((((BobbyG)))) here’s to you landing on your feet in a place ya want to be
((((egregious))))
egy - Jane Hamsher does not dispatch flibbertigibbets to Prettyman, you will be just fine and then some - lit a brand new lavender infused beeswax for ya just the same, Now go in there and bring us out a VERDICT !!!
- believe it is their Pelikano line that has some groovy ones for lefties
Hayward or Calaveras fault ?
Mad progressive love to all Firedogs, de lurking and otherwise . ‘Nite
RevJen @ 66
Thanks for the report, RevJen. I have a Lamy 2000 that is the most wonderfully comfortable shape and weight, but when you take off the cap it tends to be full of ink. I’m willing to work with the clip.
While I’m soliciting advice and recommendations, have any of you pen fiends ever dealt with a place in Iowa called Pendemonium? The oh-so-clever name makes me a bit leery, but they have quite the collection of inks and other paraphenalia, and I’m feeling tempted.
Well Bobby G, I’ve been laid off so many times, being from the Tech industry, that the last time I said F* it! and bought a small business. I sold that one and bought a bigger one (that has nothing at all to do with Tech), and that supports us nicely. I miss the intellectual stimulation from having lunch with some of the smartest people in the world, but at the end of the month, the amount of money in the bank and the decisions that bring in that money, are mine. It ain’t easy, but it’s totally worth it.
Not everyone can afford to take this step (I was house-rich), but if you just start thinking in this direction and it seems right, opportunities may start showing up…
Kids, I’m heading out through the rain and home.
Back in a bit.
cbl, looking at this link, appears to be
haywardcalaverasNormalLiberal @ 74
NormalLiberal, if you’re into vintage pens, Pendemonium is great! I dealt with them through the mail, phone, and email for ink, Clairefontaine notebooks and pen cases for several years
before meeting them at the DC Pen Supershow last summer.
Pens. So personal. Pens to me are like Duff Beer to Homer Simpson. Ooooh, peeennnnsss. But for a space, “The pen is mightier than the sword,” would be true. I had a Waterman when I lived in France in college and used turquoise ink with a fine nib. Even then, it didn’t feel right. Too scratchy and shrill. I’ve gone through the green ink phase. Dabbled in purple. Black is best with the Pilot RazorPoint (Liquid Ink Marker Pen). I really, really want to love the MontBlanc … but it’s a high maintenance pen. Then, the Japanese enter the market with the dichotomous retractable fountain pen. Who ever heard of such a thing? It seems so ridiculous, but you click the button, the nib pops out, and works perfectly every time. No jamming, no leaking, no skipping. Eh, who’da thunk it?
Oh Gee Bobby G you’ll be in all our thoughts and may I say once you get there I’d get a second opinion from another doctor…just to be certain all options are explored.
Airlines have been known to give discounts in such short notice emergencies depending on seating availability so don’t be shy and emphazize the emergency.
Keep us posted as time permits cause you know we’re all with you both in heart and spirit.
thanks Suzanne,
don’t know whether it is a good thing or not, just recall that the Hayward needed every bit of stress relief it could get :)
Suzanne @ 77
Inneresting - that link shows a lot of little temblors following up. I only felt the first in Berkeley. If it were the Hayward I would have felt more, sitting right by it here.
my favorite pen was the plain black government issue ball point pen that i would offer up while saying press hard four copies line 24 not an admission of guilt only a promise to appear on the date and time listed.
TRex!!!
Thank you. Ever since that last post about fountain pens I’ve been wanting to ask questions. You’ve covered many of them above.
I resurrected my Esterbrook J from 1956 (it’s older than my teeth). I writes great, doesn’t leak or make a mess. The 50 year old ink sac seems to seal just fine. and I’m writing a journal just for the sheer joy of using it.
Found this little gem from Sheaffer, 1947
The 26 Old Characters
I tend to have a bit of a heavy hand so I find I tear the paper with a fine nib
the micro tremers following the quake are common and usually not felt - microquakes below 3.0 are usually not felt
Felt the quake here in San Joaquin County.
FDL is a neverending source of all kinds of useful information.
Earthquake updates with pen shopping advice. :)
Trex -
Finally a post I feel I can contribute too, I always read before and after work (can’t check during the day) and usually am too late for the party.Been watching and waiting on Fitmas forever it seems.
Pens are a love of mine, my favorites are a metal nibbed pen from the 18th century of carved Ivory ( dip, not fountain), a blown glass pen with a glass tip (also dip, not fountain) and a True Write Fountain Pen from Levengers(reasonable price and quality).
One of the wonderful things about pens is how the instrument changes the experience and I would argue the content of the writing.
BobbyG @ 44
BobbyG, try this:
http://www.medicare.gov/NHComp.....teria.asp? version=default&browser=Firefox|2|WinXP&language=English& defaultstatus=0&pagelist=Home&CookiesEnabledStatus=True
It compares nursing homes within any area you choose.
I admit that I am powerless over fountain pens. I bought a Waterman Phileas (didn’t know about the Kultur yet) almost ten years ago. I’d had fountain pens before, but this time, when I bought my pen, they sent me home with a catalog. I fell in love with all the pretties. Then I entered “fountain pens” into a search engine (pre-Google) and I was lost forever.
Now, ten years or so and about 150 pens later, I’m still searching for the absolutely perfect one.
Suzanne @ 83
Suz! I am about to crash, but I saw your comment and just had to say “hey”. Very funny er… real comment. Conjures up an image, it does. xxoo
glad i made ya laugh vg - sleep well.
if you guys dont watch sara silverman on comedy central youre missin out.
she’s totally nuts. love it!
RevJen-
I’m afraid to look at the vintage stuff, because I know I will buy something I shouldn’t. But I’ll definitely be checking out the ink collection at Pendemonium again.
I have a Japanese fountain pen with an insanely fine nib, which suits my Bartleby the Scrivener handwriting, but it’s extremely fussy about what types of ink it will consume.
TRex confirms my visceral sense about the Vanishing Point (another slightly too clever name), so I think I may wait until I can play with one before I commit.
And now I’m going back upthread so I can capture that thing about the mylar sheet and scratchiness…
Suzanne @ 91
thx- always appreciate a laugh, especially when the story is based on Real Life Experience. xxoo
urban pirate @ 92
She rocks! I’ve been a big fan of hers for quite a while. Glad she got a show of her own finally, she aint right!
I’m just glad I found text edit.
Valley Girl - You still here?
yes
Pens? We don’t need no steeinkin’ pens!!
We got laptops! *g*
OT, but this should be good for some laffs. Santorum to be a commentator for….[drumroll] Fox News! (HT Huffington Post)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....42415.html
And as for the pens, I lost a great one a friend gave me, but I still have my I Castoni Stipula, which was another gift. It’s kind of greenish/brown, with gold trim. Medium tip. Me likes.
My least favorite pen-is is now a Fox Snooze contributor.
Old Man on Dog himself.
-GSD
bmaz…but not for long… oh, wait, were you suggesting that I finally go to bed, bmaz? Or did you have a question for me?
Garbo by a hair.
-GSD
ccmask @
11
I think that’s a myth. I own a Fisher Space Pen. Fisher designed a pen for use in space with no government money at all.
NASA did spend 4 thousand on mechanical pencils though.
There’s great story about how a Fisher retractable saved Aldrin and Armstrong from being stranded on the moon. A switch was broken when one of the astronauts was climbing back into the module. The Fisher Space Pen was inserted into the broken part and the switch was thrown! The rest is history.
VG - enjoyed the conversation. Let me know the info and I’ll take care of your friend. If you can’t find her email we”ll leave a comment here so she can tell us. Left you a late email a bit ago. Good night.
TRex said
WHAT? No call to your loving brother?
WHY I OUGHTTA….
urban pirate @ 93
that woman upsets me….
I am drawn like a moth to a flame in spite of the fact that I know she would mock me mercilessly…
bmaz- I will contact you anon- as in the morn. Great talking to you too. Also will check email in morn.