
Ever looked for a nursing home?
Medicare has this helpful feature on their website called Nursing Home Compare, that allows you to search for Medicare/Medicaid approved nursing homes. You plug in some search criteria (zip code, city, etc.), and up comes a list of facilities that meet your requirements. For each of them, you can check out the quality of the setting (on measures like % of residents given influenza vaccine during last Flu season, for instance), look at the results of recent health and fire safety inspections, examine the staffing levels (# licensed RNs/patient, for instance), and get an overview of the facility (for-profit or not-for-profit, # beds, etc.). You can easily compare multiple facilities, and all in all, it's a pretty good tool for sorting out a lot of data.
Once a person has used this tool to narrow their search, Medicare has a great five page checklist [pdf], that you can use when you are evaluating a facility. It's full of yes and no questions, with spaces for comments and other notes as well. Take one to each place that you are interested in, ask your questions and make your notes, then compare the results once you're done.
As a military facility, Walter Reed Army Medical Center is obviously not in this Medicare database, which is probably just as well for its leadership, given the incredible reporting by Dana Priest and Anne Hull, starting with a bombshell piece this past Sunday.
The common perception of Walter Reed is of a surgical hospital that shines as the crown jewel of military medicine. But 5 1/2 years of sustained combat have transformed the venerable 113-acre institution into something else entirely -- a holding ground for physically and psychologically damaged outpatients. Almost 700 of them -- the majority soldiers, with some Marines -- have been released from hospital beds but still need treatment or are awaiting bureaucratic decisions before being discharged or returned to active duty.
They suffer from brain injuries, severed arms and legs, organ and back damage, and various degrees of post-traumatic stress. Their legions have grown so exponentially -- they outnumber hospital patients at Walter Reed 17 to 1 -- that they take up every available bed on post and spill into dozens of nearby hotels and apartments leased by the Army. The average stay is 10 months, but some have been stuck there for as long as two years.
Not all of the quarters are as bleak as Duncan's, but the despair of Building 18 symbolizes a larger problem in Walter Reed's treatment of the wounded, according to dozens of soldiers, family members, veterans aid groups, and current and former Walter Reed staff members interviewed by two Washington Post reporters, who spent more than four months visiting the outpatient world without the knowledge or permission of Walter Reed officials. Many agreed to be quoted by name; others said they feared Army retribution if they complained publicly.
While the hospital is a place of scrubbed-down order and daily miracles, with medical advances saving more soldiers than ever, the outpatients in the Other Walter Reed encounter a messy bureaucratic battlefield nearly as chaotic as the real battlefields they faced overseas.
Mold on the walls, leaky pipes, lost paperwork, overworked caseworkers, poor coordination of resources for families, lack of translators, poor training for staff, suicides, uncaring supervisors . . . all in all, it's not a pretty picture. And if you're into pictures, check out the photo gallery by Michel du Cille and Kate Robertson that goes with the Priest and Hull stories.
I have a friend who inspects nursing homes for a living, assessing their facilities and standards of care. I'm almost afraid to call her and ask what she thinks of Walter Reed. She'd have a lot to say, I'm sure, but it would probably boil down to one thing: "If this weren't a military facility, it would have been shut down for endangering its patients."
That was Sunday's piece. Yesterday, they reported that Building 18, which played a leading role in Sunday's page A1 story, is now being dealt with. Top to bottom inspections have suddenly been made of every room, and the problems of that building are beginning to be addressed.
But that's one building. The harder issues will be rebuilding trust with out-patients and families who have long lost it, creating and maintaining a records system to handle the case load, hiring and training staff to meet the medical needs, and so much, much more.
And that's just one hospital base. I've got a hunch that Walter Reed isn't the only place that's been shattered and overwhelmed by "5 1/2 years of sustained combat."
Since the party who gave us this war has been so uninterested in any kind of accountability, it's no wonder this kind of thing has taken place. No one wants to admit how much of a toll this war has taken, and no one wants to admit that we are ill-equipped to care for the wounded and their families. If the Decider-In-Chief has his Official Smiley Face on, woe be unto the staff member of a 113 year old military hospital who says "Uh, boss? About those wounded vets . . . they're really starting to pile up around here. We could sure use some more resources to deal with it."
In yesterday's briefing, Tony Snow was asked about the Walter Reed stories in the Washington Post. According to today's story by Priest and Hull,
Snow said Bush "first learned of the troubling allegations regarding Walter Reed from the stories this weekend in The Washington Post. He is deeply concerned and wants any problems identified and fixed." The spokesman said he did not know why the president, who has visited the facility many times in the past five years, had not heard about these problems before.
(Bush can now find all the Washington Post's WRAMC coverage right here, and so can you.)
Hmmm . . . That "first learned of the troubling allegations" line sounds familiar. Katrina, anyone? No, IIRC that was CNN, not the Post. But I digress . . .
When DC was overrun with military casualties during the Civil War, it gave Abraham Lincoln a clear unvarnished view of the toll a war takes. Bush, I'm afraid, looks at a daily one-page briefing sheet, strolls through the spit-and-polish amputee ward, calls or meets with a few family members to offer condolences, and thinks he understands. But Lincoln and Bush differ in much more than how each looks at war's toll - they have a difference in understanding what war is all about. Lincoln knew what Bush apparently does not: that war isn't ultimately about battles and guns - it is about what happens after the guns fall silent.
With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.
When you put this mess on top of the military contracting debacle that is Iraq, the result in unconscionable. We've got a helluva long way to go in caring for those who have "borne the battle" and for the survivors left behind by the fallen. "We Support the Troops" is a nice slogan, but without accountability, it's only words.
And you can bet that the White House and Congress know the words. Today's Priest and Hull piece promises "swift action" and describes lots of VIP visits, special orders, and the like. But what will happen when the publicity fades?
By all means, go and visit the local wounded veterans in your area. Donate to the various relief funds. Volunteer to help out however you can, and share some links in the comments that you've found useful. But don't stop there. Get on the phone and call your distinguished representatives and senators - especially if they are Republicans. Ask why they allowed this to happen through their lack of oversight, and what they're going to do about it now. This isn't going away any time soon, and wishing won't make it disappear.
The bill for this war is coming due, and it's going to be a doozy before it is all over.
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Peterr!! Fitz!!
AZ Matt @
2
I’d give Fitz the top billing, myself, but thanks!
Hmmm . . . That “first learned of the troubling allegations” line sounds familiar. Katrina, anyone?
No one could have anticipated the breaching of the Humvees.
Dana Priest and Anne Hull are heros. This was a stupid problem that never had to happen, and now appears to be getting fixed, thanks to their efforts. Sunshine is the best disinfectant, and Building 18 needs a lot of it.
Brava!
ot-Frontline is running a 3 part series on the state of journalism in the US. Last night was part 2. You can watch both 1 and 2 online here.
Watch part 3 next Tuesday on your local PBS station.
Awfully wicked comparison of Bush to Lincoln.
Excellent title, Peterr. The bill is coming due in a multitude of ways for us and our offspring. Often, they are not bills we incurred, but will have to pay nevertheless. I’ve not approved of what is happening, nor has happened, yet to most of the world, I am a beneficiary of it. And they will hold me and mine accountable. So it is time for at the very least, small steps to try to heal and remedy the situations that cascade over us.
Short Tony Snow:
“Who could have foreseen that the only part of the hospital our hackjob on the Federal budget hadn’t undercut was the part the POTUS and congressmen travel through fairly routinely?”
Thanks, Peterr. Sorry about confusing not only your role during the live blogging, but your hometown earlier.
W/apologies to Randy Shilts (RIP)- what’s the “Butchers’ Bill” for the totality of the Bush administration? And, what could it finally be?
From a Pentagon press conference this morning, per the WaPo, the problem is a breakdown in leadership . . .
Given the model for leadership and accountability set by the Bush administration, I wonder what “the right thing across the board” looks like. The civilian leadership in BushCo certainly has no clue about what holding someone accountable looks like - let’s hope the DOD career folks do.
I have e-mailed Pelosi, Reid and my own Senator. I also called his office. The outrage I feel toward the people that permitted this situation to occur is beyond everything I ever felt before. I’m on the verge of hate. An emotion I reserve for the likes of Hitler, Tojo and Stalin. I watched on TV 2 men PATCHING drywall that appears to have mold infestation. Mold spores are airborn. The men were wearing masks but the men that live there don’t. Why not REPLACE? The spotlight is on Bldg 18 because of deplorable conditions but they better not lose sight of the bureaucratic f**k ups with the men, their condition, and making appointments. Those with difficulties should have escorts to pick them up for appointments, transport them and then return them to their domicile. It’s done at VA hospitals and at civilian hospitals too. The Secretary of the Army already wanted to put the blame on “non-commissioned” officers. He needs to be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail. The DOD has all the time and money in the world for Defense Contractors and failed weapons systems but not enough time or money for these weapons systems. They are depleted and not fit for combat so f**k em. They are no more than warehoused. And the lady that wouldn’t permit an amputee attend a comrade’s medal ceremony because he only had shorts should be shown the door with a foot up her ass. Would Eisenhower, Bradley, Marshall or Patton allow our troops to be treated like this? There is no doubt there will be no courts marshal or civilian heads rolling because of this disgrace. Business as usual.
Sometime the rage is really, realy, I mean FUCKING REALLY HARD TO CONTROL!
These neo con ass holes are all gonna burn in hell if there is a god.
We tried to tell this country when we marched in the streets that the price of war is alot fucking higher that they had ANY fucking clue about…but no VVAW was just a bunch of longhaired disaffected malcontents that were just a bunch of WATB.
Well fuck ya all.
Yer doing it again!
This administration, these phony patriot bastards are fucking the GI’s again and there is NO ONE raising hell in congress about it. Every fucking rethuglican should spend a week in a ‘bldg 18′, whacked out of their head on meds. 90% of the people in power have never heard a shot fired in anger for their country, hell they’ve never faced any danger and their actions show it.
Only a gibbering fool would go charging into a war with no clue as to what the cost is…these assholes can wrap themselves in athe flag all they want and pound the hell outta any holy book they want but they are and will always be callow, corrupt, knuckle dragging, sister fucking white trash, greedy little bastards.
They thought they could fight a war on the cheap and fuck us and our country for a couple of bucks.
The real horror of it is WE LET THEM!
(fuck the sdpell jcheck, let it go!
Ed*ard Teller @ 8
“Who could have anticipated . . .” is going to be the epitath for this administration.
As for the earlier thread, that’s no problem on my end. I just want to make sure the right folks get credit for this incredible place.
For shame. Please Dems, media, more oversight!
Thanks Dana Priest and company…more please!
My father, a quadriplegic for over twenty years had been a recipient of VA hospital and nursing home care and it was fine when Clinton was president. It has gotten worse and worse each year under Bushco. The privatization of staff has been a disaster for the patients. Bill Nelson has received letters from me about this matter. My father died last year, in large part due to inadequate care. The Republicans are hell on disabled veterans.
Walter Reed isn’t the only military hospital dealing with returning injured soldiers and their families. I wonder if the local media near other VA or military medical facilities are following this story, and checking into their local situation. Could be worth spotlighting this around to your local media outlets, and asking them.
Here’s a funny sign about war with Iran I put up next to I-80 in Berkeley:
http://freewayblogger.blogspot.....-iran.html
Bush first heard about it from the Washington Post? I thought he didn’t read newspapers.
EPU’d from past two threads;
How about a weekly FireDogLake TV Show?
One that concentrates on the “missing news” that the MSM ignores or covers up?
Any sponsors out there willing to consider it? The opening page of the TVshow could look just like the website.
Think about the expertise and talent we already have in front of us; Jane’s the producer, Christy’s the Director and Marcy’s the copywriter. Swopa could be the daily host and Pach could do the hard-hitting, thought provoking editorials. And the rest of the crew could help cover the stories and production.
And punaise could offer some occasional humor, either original or gleaned from othere on the blog…
Invite Arriana now and then for a guest editorial.(Hey, I’d watch it just to see those girls again. True confessions from a recovering dominant male, just don’t tell my wife of thirty years…)
How about this; it starts with “Live, from the campfires of Firedog Lake, we bring you “The Weekly Truth” a television show dedicated to uncovering the secrets and lies of our lawmakers and political leaders.”
We may not be able to sell it to the MSM, but there’s lot of local-access cable and u-tube for now. If the sponsorship was great enough, even one of the MSM outlets might bite on it.
We could even produce a weekly DVD to mail out to anyone who wants to pay the nominal “inter-netflix” fees it might take to send it out.
We could have a “truth and concequenses” game, reading the tripe that the Judiths, Victorias, Babs and others post and cutting it to shreds with simple logic and offsetting facts, much like we did with Juliet Eilperin and Michael Grunwald today about their whitewashing of Tauscher.
Just consider it, at least as an experiment; FireDog Lake, as part of the MSM?
Well, I guess it goes to “if you can’t beat em, join them.”
And then beat them at their own game.
Jane, you must have considered this some time or another, what’s the chances of mixing medias here, making FDL a true multimedia entity, with radio and TV versions, all built on your website model.
Instead of the MSM finally getting onto the blogs (Keith’s “Bloggerman” was one of the first to recognize the potential), we’ll be the blogs finally getting into the MSM.
Look for an email from me. I think this is a good beginning to a plan to open up the truth to more people who, due to MSM billionaire bosses, never hear the truth.
I will be persistent here, I want a personal rejection of some sort from one of you SENIOR FDLers for this idea, I won’t be offended, and anything less would leave me hope that these mighty mediums might merge sooner than later.
If history looks back on this moment, FDL’s entry into the MSM as a “conscience transplant” for a sociopathic mainstream media may well have started with your work this past week.
JEP
JEP @ 19:
Great ideas. But one step at a time.
JEP @ 19 — yes Yes YES! I’d PAY to see that!
I read somewhere just after the war started in ‘02, that wounded vets were being housed in empty, OLD, military barracks and not receiving the full care they should. Cannot, of course, remember where I read it, but I know I read it somewhere.
We were talking about this within 6 months of the war starting — and were organizing materials to be sent to local groups who were trying to help. We started making quilts for veterans, which is still going on to this day. Will bring this subject up on Friday when we meet again.
Terrible, terrible people are in charge and they are criminals. Can’t really say it any better…
This is disgraceful, but sadly, not unexpected.
Lots of the same is going on in our other hospitals, too.
fyi– cspan1 is carrying a live program hosted by Steph with all the dems who are ‘08 hopefuls. I just tuned in and Edwards is up and the crowd sounds exuberant.
http://inside.c-spanarchives.o.....hedule.csp
hackworth @
15
I’ve been involved with VA hospitals and disability policies since I left the Army with a messed up back and kidney - from a helicopter crash - in 1967. I heeded advice from other vets and stayed away from VA hospitals, but had to deal with VA on student loans, flying lessons. And, quite sadly, watching and staying with a few friends in their final days in the Seattle VA hospital.
Funding HAS gone up and down over those 40 (!!) years. But so also have the attitudes of the employees in the system. In ‘67, the Vietnam vets were severely looked down upon by the old-time employees, mostly WWII-Korea vets. If you walked into a clinic or assistance office with long hair and an attitude, your paperwork could get lost for a year.
Eventually, the old school guys were replaced by younger Vietnam vets, simultaneous with a greater understanding of PTSD, agent orange and substance abuse as disease rather than as personal shortcoming. Early efforts to jump start VietVet programs, like the Vietnam Vet Centers of the early 80s, were still government-affiliated, but as the privatization has grown, so have inefficiencies and the costs of the programs have skyrocketed mostly because so many of these wackjob orgs running the private programs are so typical of such privatization efforts.
I could go on and on, but one can’t only blame presidents for the longterm problems at VA, just like one shouldn’t point to W when railing about how inadequate the NO levees were and are. A change in the White House is only going to help some, but not a whole lot.
As you might guess, Larry Johnson has a few choice words on this.
He also quotes the Army Times, contrasting pre-war and current care levels (click through for links):
And you thought your insurance was a mess. Grrrrr . . .
Thanks, Peterr,
A lot of those at Walter Reed which is a hospital for active military as opposed to the VA which is for discharged veterans will be transferred to the VA system. The VA has never been particulary strong in long term physical therapy or psychiatric services and what resources it does have are probably already filled to overflowing. So cleaning up Walter Reed may simply push patients further down the pipeline and, hopefully from the Administration’s point of view, further out of sight.
jamesbailey @ 12
Excellent rant. You are 100% right. Hell is too good for them (and that goes 10 times for Lieberman)
Now…take a deep breath
I wanted tomake sure my definition of “sociopathic” was accurate in post 19 so I looked it up. One of the definition links from “sociopath” in Wikki listed this;
Psychopath;
A person with a personality disorder indicated by a pattern of lying, exploitiveness, heedlessness, arrogance, sexual promiscuity, low self-control, and lack of empathy and remorse. Such an individual may be especially prone to violent and criminal offenses.”
May I paraphraze?
An administration with a personality disorder indicated by a pattern of lying,(WMD)exploitiveness (no-bid contracts), heedlessness (”bring em’on”), arrogance(for us or against us), sexual promiscuity (Foley et al), and lack of empathy and remorse (abu grahib, waterboarding). Such a government may be especially prone to violent (shock and awe)and criminal (outing Vallerie Plame) offenses.
Nuff said?
Ed*ard Teller @
24
Amen Brother!
This is an issue that goes to the utter and complete incompetency of this administration.
A fish rots from the head- and the goopers elected a president who had already rotted. Everything begins there.
These people want the wrong things- but they couldn’t find their asses with both hands.
Shrub and Dick’s Excellent Adventure is costing somewhere around $200 Million per DAY, according to many sources including the Dept of Defense. So that’s about $6 Billion per MONTH! Man, just imagine the kind of care our troops and their families would get for $6 Billion, or one month occupying Iraq. Staggering.
Oh yea, and there’s still the unaccounted for $9 BILLION. Our “leaders” HATE our troops. The troops are cannon fodder, PR - hence the sudden and fake outrage after the recent article, and a means to profits for the NeoCons and their country club buddies. They must be removed immediately! Dems and self-respecting Repubs in Congress: What the Hell are you waiting for?!? It’s urgent!!
so, can we now disabuse all the mouthpieces that we are no longer the greatest country in the world, not the greatest democracy and not the greatest military either (as Walter Reed and the VA are surely part of the DoD)? with all the money that the DoD sucks out of this country’s citizens, you think they could do better???
Maybe one day we will be truly great again and a beacon of hope and justice, but it is surely not now.
No Quarter has an article on this as well, citing an Army Times story about Walter Reed:
http://noquarter.typepad.com/m....._army.html
As a commenter over there pointed out, there have been stories about this problem before, but I they weren’t in the Washington Post, and they weren’t covered on PBS. You have to wonder how much news is ignored for that reason.
angie @ 31
Hugh @ 25
Angie, Hugh’s got it right. The VA hospitals are part of the Department of Veterans Affairs, while WRAMC is a hospital for active duty military under the Dept of Defense.
But Hugh’s last point is the big one. Out of sight is out of mind for this administration, and for the Congressional republicans who enabled them for the last six years.
Oversight hearings. Now.
They’re already years late, but better late than never.
Ed*ard Teller @ 24
Agree in the majority
except
This president activly increased the stress on the system.
Like everything else this Administration has wrought, the long-term costs are barely conceivable.
dab from CT @ 27
Yeah, I took a deep breath, hugged my dogs and remembered that if I don’t want to end up with those bastards in hell I gotta keep my karma clean.
PTSD in our house means ‘put the shotgun DOWN’.
See ya all later.
With all due respect Peterr– they should be joined at the hip, especially in time of “endless” war!
piss poor planning and they never even read history, much less learned from it! argh.
angie @ 32
Oversight is undoubtably called for, but I am not certain what nation gets to be the greatest democracy, or beacon of light …
Canada?
Switzerland?
We *still* have a shot at reclaiming those titles,
only because the rest of the world ain’t that grand either.
Peterr @ 10
I had a conversation bearing on Walter Reed a little over a year ago with a high pentagon official. I got the (possibly mistaken) impression that the Administration intended to downgrade the facility.
As our nitwit in chief said recently with respect to Ahmadinejad, “what’s worse, that he knew or that he didn’t know?”
Nitwit, heal thyself.
JEP @
19
Rather than start from zip, why not cooperate with people who are already onto a project like this? One is politicsTV, who did the wrap segments with Jane and Marcy etc every day and who specialize in YouTube news, and The Real News, which is planning a more TV type news. Check them out here at www.TheRealNews.com A weekly or more frequent Firedog show would be a good fit, I think.
knut–
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb....._8-25.html
mack @ 35
That’s right. And Reagan too. His eight-year tear down was also a damaging blow.
OT– Kucinich on fire and right on point on cspan1. Hope this is replayed.
Biodun @ 18
Laura read it to him.
angie @
44
I loved his “tricked by George Bush” comments.
It sounds a lot like the VA horror stories of the Vietnam era. Strange coincidence, don’t you think?
BU DHABI — Iran may pose a greater security threat to the strategic Persian Gulf than does Al Qaida, warned the U.S. Fifth Fleet commander at a news conference in Bahrain.
“We consider this moment in time unprecedented in terms of the amount of insecurity and instability that is in the region,” U.S. Fifth Fleet commander Vice Adm. Patrick Walsh said.
“Although our presence in the Arabian Gulf is for defensive and not offensive purposes, the U.S. will take military action if ships are attacked or if countries in the region are targeted or U.S. troops come under direct attack,” Walsh added.
At a news conference on Feb. 19 in Manama, Walsh said Iran could pose a greater threat to Gulf security than Al Qaida, Middle East Newsline reported. The naval commander said Iran’s frequent military exercises were meant to provoke tension in the region and threaten the closure of the Straits of Hormuz, which contains about 40 percent of global oil shipping.
via war and piece:
audio streaming at the link… if you aren’t already frustrated enough… susan page (she’s sub’ing for diane rehme) does a good interview - lots more info/background.
;) twolf1!
the bill is coming due….
What? You mean we have to pay China back?
Dick Cheney is semi-living proof that we can’t buy or charge a heart.
/arghh
Thanks for the heads up angie. Kucinich is rockin’ on cspan now.
US Navy says that we have unprecedented instability in the middle east. How’d that happen? (scratches head).
As for other facilities, Dana Priest was on NPR this morning and (if I remember correctly) flat out said that they could get access to Walter Reed, but that most military medical facilities are located on bases where they can keep reporters out. Point being, no one should assume from this series that Walter Reed is the only one with these problems, just that it’s the only one they could show us.
She also emphasized that while the physical conditions are striking a chord with the public, the more serious problems are the bureaucratic ones — insurance-company-style crap like declaring psych problems from head injuries were actually pre-existing conditions, soldiers with short-term memory problems from brain injuries being required to remember their own appointments, etc.
There is no level this administration will not stoop to to make America look stupid. But wait, Americans voted for it…twice.
Now, let’s see how Democrats handle things. I look forward to seeing the McCatskil/Obama bill.
The George Bush democracies are really taking shape in the middle east- a genius!
GrandmaJ @ 22
Hi GrandmaJ
Went looking for that Ft. Stewart, GA, info and found the same problem at Ft KNOX! It’s entrenched, systemic, and ongoing.
Veterans for America
hackworth @
43
Look,
W’s the most awful man we’ve had as president. But many of the privatized programs that aren’t working came out of DoVA during the Clinton administration. And before. I’m unfamiliar with a history of problems at Walter Reed, but I’m sure many of the systemic problems which have been extremely exacerbated by these wars date from before Jan. 20, 2001.
Howie Klein is a master at pointing out how deep the rot goes in DC. If we expect the retirement or demise of W will be an instafix to any of Ameica’s maladies, well….
Countries lining up to get the George Bush democracy treatment in which the President first shocks and awes em- then destroys their government and replaces it with a piece of paper that no one understands.
“Hottest game in town” say officials in the region.” Everyone wants one.
Peterr @
25
And you thought your insurance was a mess. Grrrrr . . .
Oh.My.God. My stepson’s case is in that backlog.
angie @ 43
thanks for the heads up… i am bummed i missed it, but now will know to look for it as a replay or in the archives.
p.s. mike gravel is sounding pretty good!
p.p.s. howdy angie!
hi selise! I missed Clinton, Dodd and Vilsack, but the rest has been very interesting.
OT - Just finished reading Jerlyn Merritt’s column at Huffington Post. She believes Libby should be acquitted and because it is Fitzgerald’s fault. She bought Libby’s (and Judy’s too) story about faulty memory.
That is just plain upsetting, but alas, I fear he will indeed be acquited.
Rayne @ 58
Oh.My.God. My stepson’s case is in that backlog.
Paraphrasing Fitz’s closing yesterday, “To the Bush Administration, these are problems to be dealt with; but these are real people we’re talking about, with real families and real lives.”
Hang in there, Rayne, and pass our best thoughts on to your stepson. Keep us posted, and don’t let us forget about this mess.
“If the most important thing to any of you is choosing someone who did not cast that vote or has said his vote was a mistake, then there are others to choose from.”
You bet your whatever, Hillary. And you are one pig headed Demo Senator.
Rayne @
59
Oh.My.God. My stepson’s case is in that backlog.
So are a couple of my ex-students. They used to be positive young men, looking forward to their military service and life ahead. One is still OK psychologically, but the other has been utterly destroyed - a mere husk of what was a vibrant, strong personality. All this change in him in two years. Besides being injured, talking to him, I feel he had to do some major violence he can’t face before he was seriously wasted on his last tour. He can’t even look me - or other people - in the eye for more than a brief second.
They’re both in a limbo between physical evaluation board and final discharge, so the Army is saying they’ll be VA any day, but they can’t get a decent appointment at the Elmendorf AFB hospital or clinics.
OT– Durrani being replayed on cspan and sez waah, waah Pakistan is only responsible for 10% of the bad stuff in Afghanistan and 90% is the fault of the Afghans.
utter and transparent bs. ‘where’s my pipeline?’
GrandmaJ @ 62
Means nothing. I’ve tried many cases and predicted what a jury will do silently each time.
Sometimes I’m right, often I’m wrong, and even when I’m right, the reasons turn out to be well different than what I think.
Nobody knows what the Libby Jury will do, including people who were there for every minute.
No Hardballs today- upstaged my an Anna Nicole hearing–
Hillary will vote in ways that will support attacking Iran and also will allow her to say she didn’t intend to support it.
Not voting for her, she’s more of the same cr*p. Calculating, triangulating, lying, and very very smooth.
GrandmaJ @ 62
As someone who has tried cases, NOBODY ever knows what a jury will do. Even when I’ve been right in the general verdict, I’ve often been wrong as to the WHY.
In short, only 12 people have any idea and at this moment maybe even some of them don’t know.
GrandmaJ @
62
That was a very strange post. She also said Fitz should’ve indicted DeadEye Cheney. Wha?!?
She basically repeated Wells’ closing from yesterday without addressing Fitz and Z’s closing, where they did make a very strong case that Scoots lied and had motive to lie. Outside of having Scoots on tape talking to the reporters, not sure Fitz could’ve done much better than he did.
Jeralyn also said Wells’ emotional appeal was very effective. Jane, emptywheel, and many others said it seemed fake and almost comical. Who ya gonna believe?
Scoots Skates or Scoots Sinks…time will tell all!
GrandmaJ @ 62
Yeah, that article really bothers me too. I think it’s going to be a hung jury though. I so hope I’m wrong.
Jack Murtha issued a statement yesterday on WRAMC:
Yes, but the troops have to come home to the government they have, not the government they deserve.
Apparently some woman named Anna Nicole Smith is dead- did some drugs and stuff- can’t tell why anyone would want to watch lawyers talkin bout her death.
Jep,
I like your t.v. idea. But it could replace oddball on Olbermann.
yellow snapdragon @ 72
I disagree with her, and I think she and a lot of other people didn’t give enough weight to Fitz’s rebuttal. His even-if-Russert-got-hit-by-a-bus point was devastating. You can’t be surprised to hear something on Thursday if you were talking about it on Monday and Tuesday. The defense simply had no response to this. All they could do was throw up a bunch of bullshit and hope the jury would just give up trying to sort through it all. And the jury is still out, which means they didn’t just give up. I remain cautiously optimistic that the jury will convict on at least 3 counts.
Senator Clinton’s arrogance is offensive. The Senator thinks all Demos have no place to go but to her in 2008. And she is ruthless in proving her point. I resent it.
GrandmaJ @ 62
But Jeralyn forgot to talk about how Libby didn’t just “forget”, he fabricated conversations that never happened. I think the jury will mull over that.
Does anyone recall how cozy Hillary has been with Newt, Bush and many Republicans in the very recent past? Same with Bill. I sure do.
Just saw the jury’s goin’ home for the day with no decision.
More waiting tomorrow.
new thread upstairs!
Bush doesn’t know what is going on around the corner from him in Building 18 because he’s in “the beautiful White House,” the same reason he gave for not knowing what it’s like in Iraq.
Another story that is seldom making it into the news is that of the terrible hurdles that surviving spouses and their families are encountering. We did read the very recent article about the grandmother who can’t receive her dead daughter’s insurance to help rear the granddaughter but that heart-breaking story is the tip of the iceberg. As I recall, Christy posted on this subject but the major outlets have not.
At one time we were a nation of problem-solvers. Afghanistan and Iraq should have been great challenges for American ingenuity but total incompetence and greed and indifference took center stage. We can’t even get a building in decent shape to house the wounded who have suffered terrible physical and mental damage because of the same incompetence and greed and indifference. And then there’s New Orleans and points south….
Will we ever find our way back?
Dru beat me to this, too.
New thread - by Marcie.
Destined for EPU..
It seems the WH doesn’t
give a fat flying fiddler’s fuckknow what’s going on in their own army/city unless it hits the media. I guess two years ago Mark Benjamin and Salon didn’t get as much mainstream non-blog coverage as, say FDL does today.The more things change, the more they stay the same. Too bad every generation has to learn the shameful truth - wounded soldiers are forgotten and left to their own resources.
Check out the movie Article 99, from 1992. It vanished quickly from the screen but was very close to a documentary about what goes on in the hospitals.
Thanks to everybody who brings this BACK to our attention. Hopefully something will be done to ease the soldiers’ suffering.