
As C&L says, people need to speak out about this:
Sen. Joe Lieberman, the only Democrat to endorse President Bush’s new plan for Iraq, has quietly backed away from his pre-election demands that the White House turn over potentially embarrassing documents relating to its handling of the Hurricane Katrina disaster in New Orleans. Senator Joe Lieberman has just taken the very surprising step of revealing to Newsweek that he will not use his chairmanship on the Homeland Security committee to aggressively probe the government's catastrophic failings in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.
There's no excuse for this other than to spit in the face of Democrats who Joe doesn't feel supported him in his moment of need, because after all that is what is most important in the situation. How does his good friend Mary Landrieu, who showed up in CT to campaign for him, feel?
Digby calls him "a vindictive old prick." I think that puts it mildly.
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Oilfieldguy @ 0
Yep Oilfieldguy you’re first & Darn I’m second!
Juck Foe.
my contempt for Joe Lieberman will never subside.
punaise @
5
mine as well. Contempt doesn’t begin to describe it.
I will hesitantly gainsay the wisdom of Digby by pointing out an “old prick” can serve a useful function.
Now, if we could get a reacharound with that…
I believe
Joe Switchpack
is the new nomenclature.
The Republicans refusing to investigate stealing and fraud about the Katrina response, and Lieberman helping them out. What a surprise.
And what a STORY! I hope we ride this one all the way.
[rubbing hands in glee]
I call him a traitorous bastard!
Hope somebody is following up on the rumor that Bush’s speech was taped and not delivered live. Remember they didn’t allow any
witnessesphotographers. Strange stuff goin’ on here.Ann in AZ @ 9
I am not a bastard. I just don’t know where my folks are at.
My contempt for Joe Switchpack will never subside…My contempt for Joe Switchpack will never subside…My contempt for Joe Switchpack will never subside.
It is now 100% certain that Lieberman does not care for human beings. How does this effect the minimal efforts to aid the people on the Gulf Coast and in New Orleans? If you don’t know what you did wrong how are you going get it right the next time??????
Joe is at the top of that list.
I have never in my life hated so many people in government at the same time as I do now. My anger is reaching record levels and I feel stressed by it all. Could this all be a collective nightmare we’re having? We’ll all wake up and the last 7 years will never have happened except in our minds?
Ya know - this is in error:
I quoted this elsewhere and it took an observant ‘user’ (screen handle - cool one) to spot it.
The most obvious…is the most inobvious.
Lieberman @ 12
Well a traitorous orphan isn’t as dramatic!
Someone with more patience and better research skills than I could find great alignment between the donors of RGJoe’s $20,000,000 general election fund and corrupt Katrina contractors, I betcha.
Lieberman is a compassionate conservative.
RevDeb @ 8
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 13
so resolved: Joe Switchpack it is.
Fuck Lieberman. There was plenty of malfeasance during and after Katrina. There must be plenty of House and other Senate committees with jurisdiction.
bilzim @ 22
I’m not so sure, Homeland Security is his committee and they have oversight of FEMA and Chertoff’s bright shiny toy. Could Government Reform do it?
TeddySanFran @ 19
Now wouldn’t that be intersting?
Any reporters left in CT who actually want to do their jobs? Report to the assignment desk.
Joe is NOT a democrat, he is a judas sheep WHY is he still chairing our committees?
Joe Switch-PAC
I wonder if Bush has recently replaced the US Attorney in NOLA as was done in San Diego. Do ya think they might be stacking the deck.
bg @ 26
more better.
perris @ 25
Asked
bg @ 26
Answered
Joe Switchprick? He has so many nicknames now I can’t keep track.
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Mary McCurnin @ 27
Dianne Feinstein is concerned about this.
Excerpt:
Quato-joe
RevDeb @ 28
oh, yeah. that’s good.
TeddySanFran @ 32
So is Senator Mark Pryor, much to my surprise.
This ‘bipartisan’ working group or whatever Bush/Joe have cooking is really a group of spies and traitors. It lets Joey2Face play the role of Cheney in Senate affairs. For one. He’ll be advancing Bush interests at every turn and subverting moves to challenge the Admin (THAT’S PARTISAN! We need BIPARTISAN solutions.”) …at our peril, if you will.
I’m stickig w/Joey2Face. It embodies scorn, it has a catchy ring of a comic book DickTracy/Batman bad guy, the aura of ‘horse-head-in-bed’ offer ya can’t refuse and is symbolic of his chameleon/changeling nature.
perris @ 25
Because the number of Senate republiscams if 49, the number of Senate Democrats is 50, with one ill and hospitalized. And then there’s Joe.
perris @ 25
Good question. Do we need to talk to Harry Reid?
My contempt for Joe Leiberman is as vast as his ego.
my contempt for Joe Switch-PAC is boundless.
TeddySanFran @
32
They need to find out.
egregious @
11
I was in a motorhome… same DirecTV feeds as at home, but the first few paragraphs sounded like he was talking from inside a tin can.
egregious @
11
Jeez, if it was taped why didn’t they do a few re-takes? It was so awful it had to be live, I can’t imagine they would let that go to air if they had a choice. Unless, of course, they did do re-takes and that was the best one…
Teddy,
Please recommend an e-mail address for those who want to help MSNBC correct their mistake in labeling Lieberman as ” the only Democrat.”
egregious @
11
Through the day we were told he was working for at least two hours practicing his speech… I’d wondered, two hours for a twenty minute speech???
I just hope that all the nice folks over at the DSCC, the DLC and Clinton and Schumer and all the other supporters of Joe, or the non-supporters of Ned are happy now.
We all know that if the party establishment had gotten behind Ned and came to CT to make the point that Joe was no longer a Democrat then perhaps a majority of the 35% of Dems who voted for him would have voted Lamont and Ned would be in the Senate and that lying piece of trash would be a lobbyist for big Pharma.
When the Dems gain seats in the Senate in ‘08 and Lieberliar is no longer pivotal to keeping a majority I hope they strip him of his chairmanship for malfeasance over this. Let the whiny bastard eat crow or switch parties and join the minority. Either way, he will become the most irrelevant man in Washington.
Mary Landrieu will have a fair bit of explaining to do to folks down home about Joe- Party-of-One not following up on promises he made. Chertoff must be relieved, Halliburton too.
mui @ 38
Harry Reid cannot change the numbers. Is he gonna cut off his nose to spite his face? Are you?
TeddySanFran @ 31
YEAAAAAA!!!! Teddy
We just finished voting in AD 5, and everyone I voted for WON. WOOHOO!
I haven’t heard from Nefarious Leslie in the 8th or Donna Marie in the 3rd yet, but I have my fingers crossed for them too.
P.s. fingers crossed for Mommybrain too - if she’s running again
For those who don’t mind self-abuse I post this link to Holy Joe on Broadwater. via CTBob
For those who want to see something more cheerful and a breath of fredh air, I post this link.
Joe Lieberman, I douchebagious.
-GSD
I did call Sleazy Joe’s senate office and said he should just end the pretenses and switch parties.
-GSD
Punaise and I have agreed to share our mutual, boundless, and utter contempt for Holy Joe.
Vindictive old prick — I’ll add it to the collection of Lieberman curses I asked for yesterday.
Do you think Bush is try to flip Lieberman (and thus the Senate) by calling him out in the speech with another “Kiss” (albeit a rhetorical one)? Or is Bush just toying with Lieberman by naming him to a non-existent committee and getting a blowing-up-frogs kinda thrill by watching Lieberman prostitute himself? Or is Bush just trying to get under our skin?
Joe Lieberman is…
70 nomads. Who gives a shit?
Should been 100.
What was it about those who are willing to kill innocents to advance their political agenda?
-GSD
GSD @ 52
Satisying, perhaps, but counterproductive. Let’s wait two years until we have a larger majority and kick him to the curb then.
Digby calls him “a vindictive old prick.” I think that puts it mildly.
I defer to Henry Rollins.
(H/T to driftglass for linking this video a couple days ago.)
well, just went and kicked Barbara Boxer in the shins again about her good friend, Joe…
apparently, I am still really mad at her…
I’d rather get it over with. I’d rather lose than be blackmailed.
-GSD
Joe-Party-of-One is an unstable isotope for either party. If he switched I don’t think the Repubs would trust him very far. He is doomed to be an unhappy man. It is too bad he causes the problems he does for everyone else as there is important work to be done ripping the guts out of GWB and Friends.
AZ Matt @ 47
I wrote to her (again) and said she should be ashamed of herself for supporting Ho Joe. She has really screwed NOLA.
I agree with “why are they still calling him a Dem?” He’s not even the leading man in his own party. He’s a man without a party.
Joe Bad the Nomad
uncle toby @
54
All of the above.
GSD @ 56
Even Joe Klein is scared now
john in sacramento @
49
congrats!
If Lieberman wants to caucus with Democrats, fine. But he is not a Democrat or an Independent Democrat and the media should not make that mistake. Joe should not have a choice in this description because the CT Dems have spoken in their primary.
At least we can still have investigations in the House.
GSD @ 52
Ah, a numbers change! Well, try this on for size. The number of republiscams is 50, the number of Democrats is 50, with only 49 voting with one hospitalized. Even when or if the one recovers, the number of voting Dems is 50, and guess who gets to break the tie. You got it, Big Dick!
Liberman (I-Banality)
uncle toby @ 54
The correct answer to that question is “All of the Above.”
By George, there’s been a coup.
Could it be better to insist that Ho Joe switch over and bite the majority bullet now? Why should the Dems let him manipulate the senate? He is such an ass(0).
From the dictionary:
Bi-par-ti-san-ship (noun)
Of or involving the agreement or cooperation of two political parties, specifically the Republicans and the Lieberman for Lieberman party.
AZ Matt @ 61
Joe is like that girl you “stole” away from another guy. But the problem you don’t see on the front side, is that because of her leaving another man to be with you, you can never trust her. And the relationship is doomed. That’s Joe.
Teddy at 31 has identifying personal information.
How. Very. Sad.
Almost as sad as Alberto Gonzalez firing the U.S. Attorney investigating Duke Cunningham because her investigation was leading into criminal activities carried out by the CIA.
We truly are a Nation governed by thugs and criminals
IMPORTANT post over at BlueMassGroup. We must pay attention to this.
Moyers on the Media
Lieberman (I-Self)
and,
An Open Question to Senator Hagel:
How can a man of conscience remain a Republican in these times?
Let’s hope Hagel’s brother and Jim Webb can provide more perspective to the Senator on that question. And Senator Kerry…his “Last man” question of the Vietnam era resonates in both the Katrina and Middle East debacles.
For the love of God, for the love of America, Senator, please listen.
Digby calls him “a vindictive old prick.” I think that puts it mildly.
“Vindictive” means he screws over those who oppose him; but Joe screws over those who support him, too. His other Homeland Security brainstorm is to support the spreading of first-responder/preparedness money equally across the country, which is a great big fuck-you to Bloomberg, who was *also* a big help to him in ‘06.
Joe’s like a hooker that gets in the biggest car that pulls up every 1/2 hour. No offense to hookers.
Mary McCurnin @ 73
If he won’t lead the Homeland Security Committee then Reid should replace him.
ccmask @ 81
None taken.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 67
But he’s sort of got everybody over a barrel–the repugs, if they want to claim ‘bipartisanship’, and the dems, because if he ever switches parties, all the committee chairmanships go by the wayside. Unless I’m missing something?
Eli you funny.
I know this waaaaay OT, but I just got in town and missed all the morning threads. Having just run for state assembly here in WI, I second everything NYBri had to say. If anyone else is interested in insight about running, I’m willing to talk too, although my experiences were quite different than his. My contact info can be found on my official site, which is linked to off the webpage link here. Hope that’s not to circuitous.
spurious @ 84
The thing is, unless Joe *really* thinks he’s going to be president or veep, he could doom himself to irrelevance in 2009 if the Democrats increase their Senate majority. Which they have an excellent chance of doing (21 Republicans up for re-elect, vs. only 12 Dems).
Damn you, Al Gore. Why did you pick Lieberman to be your running mate? He brought nothing to the ticket, and it made him a big name in the party. Without your boneheaded decision, Lieberman would be just another random northeastern senator that nobody paid much attention to. What were you thinking, Al?
Here’s an important New York Times story I found by way of Raw Story:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01.....nted=print
Wait a second — is this carved in stone? Can’t Reid yank Liebertraitor’s ass off the Homeland Security Committee if he fails to hold hearings? He’s an Independent, remember? Isn’t he there by the grace of the Dems? And can’t they kick him to the curb regardless of who the hell he “caucuses” with and what does that mean, anyway, if he protects the opposing party? I’d really like to know if the rules prohibit dumping him.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 82
HoJoe is probably most useful as an R-tool if he stays on committees and basically does sabotage.
dalloway @ 89
I seem to recall a lot of talk after the CT primary about how Joe couldn’t be removed from committees without some kind of procedural vote which could only take place at the start of a new congressional session or something like that. Probably bullshit, though - I suspect that if they really want to boot someone, they can find a way.
Can somebody please get Olympia Snowe or Susan Collins or Chuck Hegel or somebody to jump ship, so we don’t need Lieberman any more?
going to sue the United States for nearly two billion dollars for “unfairly accusing” Niger of selling uranium to the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.
“Our lawyers are about to file a lawsuit against the US calling for damages of about 1000 billion CFA francs ($2.42 billion dollars) for the harm suffered” by the country, Moustapha Kadi, president of the Collective of organisations in Niger defending the right to energy (CODDAE).
In January 2003, US President George W. Bush accused Saddam of having bought uranium from Niger to make weapons of mass destruction.
The Niger collective said in a statement that investigations by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), world media and US officials, all concluded that it was a “false accusation” against Niger.
That false information was used by Bush “to invade Iraq,” said the collective’s statement, which also called for support from Niger’s President Mamadou Tandja, who back in 2003 said the US allegations were “harming Niger’s image”.
Niger is the world’s third-largest producer of uranium with about nine percent of the global market, according to 2003 figures.
The country’s two uranium deposits have been mined for 40 years by the French group Areva, number one in civil nuclear energy.
http://www.theaustralian.news......02,00.html
egregious @ 76
Which is quoted again at 49.
Teddy?
Mods?
Yooohooo?
[Mod Note; we saw it the first time and are confident that if he’d like it removed, he undoubtably will let us know.]
cleter @ 92
They would just wellstone somebody. Maybe they already tried.
Mary McCurnin @ 73
The question is: How could it be better to insist that Ho Joe switch over and bite the majority bullet now? As it stands, we will undoubtedly lose a few due to Who’e Joe’s manipulation, but we have a majority, which gives us the leadership position, Committee Chairmanships and subpoena power.
If that speech was taped instead of live, could Bush already be at Ranch 2.0?
spurious @ 84
My point here is in relation to how the media incorrectly labels this. He may caucus with Dems but he is not a Dem. He doesn’t need to switch party, just with whom he will caucus. Not sure what would happen if he did switch caucus in the middle of a term. Would all committees change over to Republican?
egregious @
11
My initial reaction is that his handlers are now having trouble keeping him sober on a regular weeknight at 9:00pm. The alternative is to tape the speech early in case he gets too drunk too early. He was a mess the next morning addressing the troops in a memorial/medal service and I think I saw where the troops weren’t allowed to dine with him at lunch. I’ll have to look this up.
My comments are speculation for entertainment value.
egregious @ 76
By the way, I’ve been meaning to say, congratulation Teddy! Does this really mean you’re taking the leap? If so, Best of Luck to you!
Eureka Springs, AR @ 98
Yes.
Reid is shrewd and mean. I have no doubt that he’s been working on all possible defectees… either they won’t bite or, for all we know, negotiations are in progress. Hopefully these negotiations include a new chair for the homeland sec committee. Please, please, please let that be the case.
egregious @ 96
ccmask @ 98
ya’ know, I just wonder if the reason it might be taped is they were afraid shrub would, at the last minute, refuse to read what was prepared for him… the bland background, his weird demeanor - I almost wonder if it wasn’t a “practice” tape that was put together for him to watch and he then refused to do the live speech…
something is wrong with that address…
PoliShifter @ 77
Now we’re starting to understand how Mexico feels. I tell you, it’s time to give Alberto his walking papers. This is doable!
My contempt for Joe Lieberman knows no bounds and will never fade.
ccmask @
98
George Bush Drunk?
Just think, if a few more votes had been counted in 2000, this thread might have us all moping about how Vice President Lieberman had an insurmountable lock on the nomination for 2008.
I believe the procedure for a 50/50 split would provide for shared control. The last time this happened was early 2001. PBS described the procedure here:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/ex.....aring.html
Eli @ 102