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Howard Kurtz is whining again. In his Christmas Day column, Kurtz waxes nostalgaic for the Good Old Days when men were men and women were women and "truth" was a construct that was doled out to us in manageable bite-sized portions by the holy trinity of the three big networks and no one else.
I love practically everything about being wired.
I like being able to click on newspapers from around the world, see bloggers smack each other around, Google any person or thing that pops into my brain, watch news videos (and some stupid stuff, too) on YouTube, and generally surf till I drop.
But while I hook up my laptop just about anywhere, IM my buddies and continually check my buzzing BlackBerry, one thing is missing: what I call Ed Sullivan moments.
There was a time, younger readers -- pre-fax, pre-voice mail, pre-MySpace -- when families like mine sat around a black-and-white TV set with a handful of channels, watching many of the same shows. And whether Sullivan's guests were the Beatles, impressionist Frank Gorshin or Topo Gigio (a silly mouse puppet who appeared 92 times), it was a shared experience.
Oh, fie, indeed, Mr. Kurtz. It's all gone to shit now that people like you and David Brooks are just more road pizza on the information superhighway, hasn't it? Now just anybody can get tens of thousands of readers a day, can't they? The peasants are revolting! Why won't they just sit back and be told what to think anymore?
Howard Owens has something he wants to say to you, by the way. In fact, he's gone all polemic on your ass.
From the excellently titled "Old Fart Media vs. Distributed Media: A Response to Howard Kurtz":
This nostalgia for mass media is misplaced. Sure those Ed Sullivan moments were fun, but they were an anomaly. They were moments in time that only a Baby Boomer could love. Mass media is a relic of the 20th Century, the only period in human history in which it existed.
Kurtz again:
How do we pick out the stories, sites, blogs, videos and info-shards that are worth our precious time? We can follow the electronic links from people and places we trust, but in an odd way, that’s bringing back the old gatekeeper role, with popular portals granting admission to a selected few content creators.
Mr. Owens, your witness:
First, it’s not bringing back the gatekeeper role. The gatekeeper has always been with us, it’s just that the job descriptions and qualifications have changed. It’s no longer crusty city desk editors and executive producers. It’s you and me. As to Howard’s first question: You just do it. You figure it out. You are in control. You’ll find some good stuff, and you’ll also waste some time, but at least you aren’t being forced to pay for the whole CD to get just one song, or buy the whole paper just to read the comics.
… awkward old Ed Sullivan would have a hard time making it today. Maybe he’d have to sell his best segments on iTunes.
Exactly, old Mr. Kurtz. Now you get it. Assuming Mr. Sullivan produced content worth buying and mastered promoting himself and his content on YouTube, his own blog and MySpace. I think Topo Gigio would be a big hit on YouTube, unless Mr. Sullivan tried to make it all too slick.
(hat tip to Romenesko)
To tell you the truth, Kurtz's column reminds me of a certain famous quote by France's Louis XV:
Après Moi le Deluge
by Paul Jay, Chair, IWT-The Real NewsThe leader of the most powerful country on earth, with an unquestioned faith in his divine right to rule and the absolute power of the centralized state, was the namesake for Louisiana.
When he died in 1715, Louis XIV had built France into the dominant power in Europe, but he bankrupted the nation, forcing him to levy high taxes on the peasantry while the nobility paid none at all. Most people lived in poverty while the King built an empire.
During the empire’s demise his great great grandson Louis XV ruled France and its possessions, which included the colonial city of New Orleans. He lived for indulgence and luxury as his people descended further into despair. It is said near his end he uttered the words "Après moi le deluge." After me come the floods.
That's from an excellent essay about Hurricane Katrina, but the same could be said of the cocktail weenie circuit and all the other BushCo enablers who stood by with their thumbs up their asses while our nation was delivered headlong into the worst geopolitical strategic blunder in its history. Old blowhards like Kurtz just sat idly by and chose not to make waves and yet they wonder why their credibility has evaporated, their readership has fled for the deeper waters of the web, and their circulation has dwindled to nearly nothing. Oh, noblesse oblige, where have you gone? Sense of entitlement, why hast thou forsaken me? Who shall direct the reading habits of the rabble? Oh, truly these must be the end times of man.
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Sounds like what Howie Kurtz would really like is state-run media. As long as he could decide what the shared experience is going to be, of course.
I miss the Ed Sullivan moments, too: the real ones, growing up in Manhattan, having my parents come home from a late afternoon cocktail party and deciding to take us to to that evening’s live audience screening.
I saw the Rolling Stones before anybody in America did.
neurophius @ 4
I’m swinging for a triple tonight, neuro!
TeddySanFran @ 7
…and before Keith Richards achieved Taoist alchemical immortality.
Attacks in Iraq rage as Saddam death looms
Attorney warns that ex-dictator’s hanging could increase sectarian violence
I’ve never seen a finer example of colonialism than the U.S. attacking Iraq (based on complete fabrications), toppling it’s leader, trying him and executing him. All for oil.
There are still those MSM shared moments that are shockers - watching on live TV the Katrina mess, waking up to read that the Dems had apparently taken both the House and the Senate. What is missing from MSM these days too often is truth and candor! Look what happened to the Dixie Chicks. That was MSM’s response. Look what has happened to Air America. Why did Romney’s investment group by Clear Channel? MSM is no longer the old MSM.
Olbermann! Saving grace of network ? TV!
With Saddam out of the way, W can be unchallenged for the person who has been responsible for more murders in Iraq than anyone. More than Saddam, by a long shot. When’s he gonna swing?
OT - (watching the evening news) - interestin’ how shrub is such a funeral avoider…
Teddy - great memory!
Reading Trex’s latest (and what a joy to get so many Trex’s in one day!) I am torn … I don’t want gatekeepers and certainly not Kurtzian ones but the shared national experience that many of us grew up with had some value. Everyone watching Edward R Murrow, or hearing Cronkite object to the war or seeing MLK speak … those were shared, nation changing moments. And I have fond memories of everyone seeing the Beatles *and* the Stones on Sullivan.
Still, if forced to pick, I’d go distributed any day.
OldCoastie @ 14
It’s just as well. When he does go (e.g., Coretta Scott King), he just ends up making a fool of himself and shaming the nation he allegedly leads.
OldCoastie @ 14
He can’t afford to go… There will be people there who disagree with him, and some of them may have the cojones to tell him to his smirking little face. Ew. Better to stay on the pig farm…
When was the last time W and Poppy were in photo range of each other? Maybe he’s just avoiding Poppy, “I have a good son: Jeb.”.
That’s what I’m thinking.
I like having Jane and Christy & Co. as gatekeepers. Lots of great stuff gets in, and no garbage!
true, EvilDr, but doncha know people who just can’t force themselves to go to a funeral? and interestin’, when he has caused so much death and destruction…
EPU’d, with comment: why is no one in the MSM discussing the distatefulness of this execution, the flawed trial, our former US Attorney General {who can hardly get airtime here} who advised Saddam’s defense?
TeddySanFran @
147
Why must we export the deathpenalty with our Democracy brand? Most brands of Democracy have discarded this abomination; even Florida has suspended theirs!
We are led by a sociopath who must be stopped. National Democrats, please make it stop! Or the people will.
‘Artificially induced limits and mass conformity…Where have the pixie-dust sprinkled good old times gone, I tells ya!’
Yeah, whatever, Gramps…Here’s ten bucks, go buy yourself some Night Train and a stroke book to while away the hours in your pup tent with.
Now go sack race with the rest of the out-of-timers…we’ve got a modern world to save!
;>)
There’s been some controversy about the process for Saddam’s execution date. I’ve seen references to a misunderstanding or bad translation that the law does not require such a speedy execution. The BushCo might be overstepping bounds there, too.
I don’t support the death penalty by the way.
That stuff Howie is nostalgic for was great, and would still be great now, because it was great, NOT because of some bullshit notion of “shared experience.” Colonel Kurtz is stupid.
Saddam to ‘dance’ within 48 hrs. … MSNBC.
Wonder if there will be satellite hook up in Oval Office?
With all due respect to the gorgeous TRex, WhoTF? gives a rat’sass what kurtz has to say anymore? A couple dozen rightwinghangerson? The very old media howard is grasping. Turn the yellowed page/switch the busted channel already.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 25
No, but there will be in Crawford. Bush hasn’t giggled about an execution for a few years now.
Siun @ 15
I can’t imagine us going from the Saturday Evening Post and LIFE magazine directly to the web-distributed content, so it’s just as well teevee was there for a while. However, the center as defined by Kurtz, Howell, and VandeHei will not hold. No one’s interested in anyone’s opinions unless they’ve earned our trust — and no one who cheerled our Cheerleader-in-Chief deserves our trust. I’m looking at you, Richard Cohen!
BTW, just bookmarked;
http://www.howardowens.com/
Thnx TRex.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 25
Are you kidding? The videotape of that will become Bush’s favorite porno flick.
Actually, there still are “shared national experiences.” It’s just that nowadays they tend to be viral videos and American Idol. A little while ago it was Seinfeld… In my mother’s day they gathered around the radio, in my earlier days we gathered around the tube, and now we “gather” on line. Actually, in a “gathering” like this I’ve got a better chance of feeling comfortable and being able to speak my mind. Thanks, FDL!!!
This is actually a very cool sentence, in its summary of all that’s wrong with the Beltway Boiz (and Ladies):
TeddySanFran @ 32
I can just taste those cocktail weenies!
Marion in Savannah @ 31
it is a huge improvement over yelling back at the tv… my friends and neighbors sure appreciate it…
I would like to see George tried for his crimes against humanity, convicted and appropriately sentenced.
As far as the timing of Saddam’s execution (may it not come to pass) I wouldn’t be surprised to see it scheduled just in time to suck the MSM attention away from the new Congress taking over. OOOOHH…. LOOKY THERE…
Saddam to be hanged by Sunday:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16384738/from/RS.1/
EvilDrPuma @ 27
That we know of . . .
It’s got to be tough becoming irrelevant.
Having to watch your own slow taper to oblivion.
Oh great Gate Keeper!
My column inches for some pertinence!
Oh mighty, blurry black and white world!
Where have you gone?
Too much, too much.
If I had a remote, I’d push “off.”
looking things up - I see that Ed Sullivan got the show by first being a good show business writer with a keen eye for talent. If he was around to day his major problem would be, frankly, he wasn’t very pretty. I don’t see how the Information Superhighway can be held to blame for that. It’s the professional media that Kurtz is an honored member of that prizes looks before everything else and gives pretty nitwits with good hair air time - not the blogs.
Riesz Fischer @
37
The phrase that jumped out at me in that article was “prepared to give his life as a martyr to his country.” Hasn’t it occurred to anyone that this may happen? That he’ll morph from a mass murdering ethnic cleansing tyrant into an Arab martyr to Bush’s lunatic vision? That’s JUST what we need…
I always get a giggle out of the thought that the media critic of the Washington fuckin’ Post is completely clueless about media….
And, the lament, spoken or unspoken–every time the subject of the nets comes up–”why, oh, why aren’t people impressed with us any more?,” is always there, like a pimple on his ass that he can’t see, but can always feel when he sits down to write.
If most of the big paper columnists today didn’t write like they were Westbrook Pegler with a case of crotch rash, and ventured out from their little cloisters to test their theories on conventional wisdom against reality, people might actually read them and think about what they say….
moeman @
29
He’s excellent.
marion at 31 =totally agree. There are plenty of shows on MSM to watch with friends and family who share your values and experiences.
As for FDL- we how many times are we all watching c-span, olberman, colbert or the daily show “together”. i love that the people here love these shows like I do I esp. love when i am at work and someone can live blog an event and keep me posted. i f this is the new shared experience, i’m in.
darkblack @
22
TRex–
I know we aren’t supposed to bring up touchy subjects from previous threads, but I didn’t get a chance to ask you…Does Juan Carlos have a *weight problem*?
My cat, who looks a lot like JC’s picture, sure does.
For those in the FDL community who are interested, ConsortiumBlog has a list of next month’s anti-war and anti-torture events.
Siun@ 15
I find more information or entertainment than ever before. The cream rises to the top for the most part and discussions of a wide variety have never been better.. Sounds like old Kurtzy, like many of us, is trying to sort out the changing times or procrastinating a resume update.
For example: Hey everybody, Blog wars is on Sundance channel now!
TeddySanFran @ 32
Oooooh, thank you! Flattery of my sentences will get you ANYTHING you want from me.
Neurophius, my guess is that JC is just a big-boned Meezer. Right now we have one of the lithesome, slithesome ones but the previous Principesa was more of a “meat loaf” shape. JC doesn’t look overfed to me, just a substantial kitty, with, like all Siamese, the courage of his convictions!
Marion in Savannah @
41
It’s just more proof that chaos in Iraq is part of the BushCo plan for the future. Hell, even his worst enemies will claim his martyrdom if it’s a convenient excuse for violence.
neurophius @ 46
He’s a little round, but not grossly overweight. He weighs 13 pounds. The vet says he’s healthy, if a little spoiled.
Now I have to run around shrieking as I try to come up with a Late Nite post.
TRex, the Kitty Blogger role worked well…!
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least to see Saddam become a martyr.
Yes Saddam did monstrous things. And so does our President.
TeddySanFran @ 21
Great typo, TSF. I love it. Alluding perhaps to dysfunctional States everywhere . . .
Oh. My. Word, oregondave! GREAT catch! I had to look at that 3 times before I saw it, and I used to be a proofreader! I think that should be a new word… Maybe we can all “viral” it out there…
Eureka … nodding!
BW is not on until midnight here, apparently Chicago gets Sundance West … let me know what you think. We have a large FDL presence in it I must say
TeddySanFran @ 21
Because the MSM loves a good execution. They just wish they could broadcast them live. People like you and me who find it distasteful (or morally offensive, or serving no good purpose) only make cameo appearances as villainous kooks lurking in the background.
Oklahoma kiddo @
25
Tomorrow night
our lives will change
Tomorrow night
we’ll be entertained
An execution,
what a sight
Tomorrow night
–SP:BL&U
Whenever Saddam hangs, Iraq’s gonna go up like a torch. It’ll make April of 2004 look like a picnic.
If they have any sense, they’ll commute his sentence to life in prison. For the good of the Iraqi people.
CNN just now:
“But we want to know what hanging will feel like.”
and now they’re telling us that there’s no pain … argh
Siun @ 60
Now there’s a straight line if I ever heard one. :)
Siun @ 60
And they’re welcome to take a rope into the bathroom and find out, but I wish they’d leave me out of it.
it takes a very special american president to turn the butcher of baghdad into an islamic martyr.
Siun @
60
You MUST be joking, I hope, aren’t you? Who was the bonehead who delivered him/herself of that pearl?
creepy, creepy, creepy
This is a truly disgusting report … ghoulish delight in the details of hanging … how many minutes, what level of pain, etc
I think folks should know what the death penalty is really like but this is just awful.
I hope someone being interviewed on TV about Saddam’s hanging raises the question, why are we hanging Saddam Hussein, rather than Osama Bin Laden, who was responsible for 9/11 and who we have allowed to remain free for the past five years?
Maybe this is an execution of convenience.
Osama who???
Marion - they did a whole piece on AC360 complete with Foresnsic guy and diagrams and pics of a recent hanging in Baghdad.
They did at least mention that two US states still can use hanging though it’s been a while since they actually have.
Siun @ 67
I wish I was surprised. It takes something like this to throw the voyeuristic thrill machine that is the American broadcast media into sharp relief.
Siun @ 67
Imagine how ghastly it would be if we could keep the electricity on long enough to use the chair?
hangings, beheadings, torture, crusades ……… does anyone think the black plague might be just around the corner?
how about the babylonian captivity of the papacy?
The In Cold Blood killers were hanged in Kansas in 1965.
That may have been our last hanging.
I wonder if the hanging of Saddam Hussein is the kind of “shared experience” that Howard Kurtz wishes we could watch together on TV?
It’s not easy having those kinds of natural born killers in the White House.
I don’t think Johnson, or for that matter even Nixon, liked what they were doing in Vietnam. This president is different. He enjoys his work.
rumi @ 76
Everybody else is just a frog to him.
neurophius @ 75
All the networks are starting to seem like this network….
neurophius @ 75
Now, that’s just TOO creepy to even begin to consider. But I’ll bet it’s something that the TV news people are drooling over…
rumi @ 76
Jane? Story idea here? The sequel?
Marion in Savannah @
41
And it’s exactly what Bush wants. More violence = a perfect excuse (in his mind) to
surgeescalate troop levels.For Bush, the hanging of Saddam will be divine pleasure. Our prez is sick.
Time for a subject change/break.
If you are going to be in the Bay Area Jan 9-12….
Follow this link to a free exposition pass at MacWorld in San Francisco 9-12th….
Code is PC0425. Takes about 3 minutes.
https://register.rcsreg.com/regos-1.0/macsf2007/ga/index2.html
Happy trails
i am so embaressed to ask this but what the heck i can laugh at myself too……..what is the picture at the top?
lo @ 85
It’s a ship at sea during high seas….
lo @
85
First I thought it was an Alp or something, then I realized it’s a REALLY REALLY big wave coming right at the bow of a ship…
oregondave @ 81
I’d hate to insult the subjects of the first one. Maybe a pseudo-scifi thriller that begins in the forest at the altar of a large owl, as young master Bush is inducted into the unholy family of supernatural evil….
Ed Sullivan, lawerence welk, leave it to beaver, father knows best, my three sons … were All the most boring crap imaginable. Also the brady bunch .. you would have to be stoned to watch any of that crap.
john in california @ 89
I always assumed that people were stoned when they watched “The Brady Bunch.”
oh…thanks.
lo @ 85
I thought it was a mountain range coming into view.
I’m having a rather bad “hand aches” day today, so I’m going to sign off and gobble some ibuprofen and hit the hay. Have a great night, everyone. I’ll be back in the morning. (My Meezer yowls goodnight too…)
rumi @ 88
And what would be the “fi” part of the sci-fi of this? Sounds like a documentary to me.
Marion in Savannah @ 93
“Night, Marion. Sleep tight.
rumi @ 88
Directed by David Lynch, perhaps?
oregondave @ 94
you’re right….I need to add some embellishment.
EvilDrPuma @ 96
Maybe a sequel to “Eraserhead” might be more appropriate. Laura as the “lady in the radiator….”
Funny you should mention Ed Sullivan. I never watched him when it happened, but we spent Christmas afternoon looking at the DVD of the Beatles on Ed Sullivan. Great show. I was in college at the time, and we didn’t have time to look at TV in those days. Cards, women, and term papers. Still sounds good to me.
John Dean said that everything is 100% politics with BushCo…. every decision, action, press release/leak, everything.
So….. what if Saddam hanging was to be the suck media attention from new Democratic Congress event but Prez Ford screwed it up with the inconvenience of dying at the wrong time?
Good night all. I’m off to watch “Children of Heaven.” (Yes, NSA, it is an Iranian film. You got a problem with that?)
We’re home!
And there was much rejoicing.
President Ford’s posthumously revealed remarks about his disapproval of the Iraq war stand as a service to his country. The cable channels seem to be giving Ford’s comments a fair amount of attention. Not what Karl Rove had in mind for this week’s news.
EvilDrPuma @ 96
I’ve trusted your judgment since I’ve been here. No reason to stop now.
Google is an amazing creation.
I was sitting here reading FDL and watching James Brown’s posthumous appearance at the Apollo Theater when it occurred to me to wonder whether James Brown ever appeared on the Ed Sullivan Show.
Here he is, in 1966:
http://www.videosift.com/video.....-Show-1966
Had this thought while listening to the radio today (Kissinger others blathering on about Vietnam from a March symposium):
Guerilla warfare is nothing new. It is simply what you get when the Empire overreaches itself. I’m reminded of the Athenians and Carthage (I think…I’m a physicist, not a historian).
Anyway, I’ll take two weeks of riots from the time of the hanging, with an untold number of Iraqis and more than 100 American soldiers dead. Given the right odds, I’d lay down a bet that there will be problems here at home, but I hope it doesn’t come to that.
We need something faster and stronger than impeachment for this situation. I’m not advocating violence, but the wheels are off the bus and we’re about to go over the cliff.
Christopher Dickey has a good column over at Newsweek:
he goes on to really smack shrub around.
Renee in Ohio @ 102
Good…
TRex, you are en fuego tonight.
oregondave @ 55
typo? you assume that’s a typo?
Jay @
109
There’s more on the way.
Katymine
This’ll be EPU’d, but that’s o.k.
Just wanted to say thanks for your comments, even tho I couldn’t stay around to read them earlier.
We’re with your dad on this. A PhD & a MS in the family in biol., prof. ecologists galore among friends & acquaintances - and this situation just breaks our hearts too.
We thought we were worried back in the sixties.
Now we’re just sick to see the wanton criminal malfeasance in our own government.
Something just HAS to be done.
Sorry. gotta quit again. just a wreck here, dang!%&!
We won’t quit if you guys won’t. deal? ;->