Login Here 
Well you certainly expect it of Butt Boil Limbaugh, and I suppose you should expect it by now of Hillary Clinton -- Sista Souljah is obviously a family affair.
I could understand that people just want the whole John Kerry thing to disappear from the stage a week out from the elections, but the Republicans and their compliant media (who seem to think a botched joke is more important than a botched war) aren't letting that happen. Anyway, the appropriate course of action for those wishing for it to fade away would be to simply change the subject, or at least STFU and not seize on it for personal political gain, but John Kerry did after all come out and criticize Holy Joe Lieberman so he must (like Howard Dean before him) be punished.
Meanwhile -- oh lord don't make me do it -- Bob Casey shows he knows how to stand up to Republican bullies:
"He botched a joke. He was honest about a mistake that he made," Casey said after speaking to several hundred students in a packed auditorium at the University of Pennsylvania. "He didn't make a mistake like this president did" with a failed strategy in Iraq.
I really didn't want to have to do that, but credit where credit is due. Anyone with the guts to tell the GOP to Fuck Right Off and stick it to George Bush and his failed war gets a high five.
I know it's hard to be a woman running for President, but her husband triangulated the party right out of an identity in the 90s and we've been paying the price ever since. Can she please find a way to conduct her campaign without tearing apart the Democratic Party? Thanks Hills.
Share This 
Spotlight
let’s pillory Hillary
ptooey, Hill.
You do not speak for me, and haven’t for a long, long time.
Casey was right.
I am so angry at these “me first” dems– put your country first, folks.
I see some sore hands!
I got home from work and turned on the TV. NY1 was on and the story was Clinton’s comment. I immediately began yelling at the TV… I changed the channel. ARGH!!!!!!!!!! I feel trapped that I have to vote for her ’cause there’s no there way I’m voting for Spencer.
PurpleGirl @ 4
Agree completely. Every time I think she can’t disappoint me more…….
OMG, someone is pressing my Hillary button(s) again. I will not succumb, I will not give in, I will not cave to the temptation…
…but her husband triangulated he party right out of an identity in the 90s and we’ve been paying the price ever since.
Geometry 101: Bill triangulates; Hillary’s plane with fire as she bisects you all.
(no aspersions were cast in the making of this comment)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 6
Don’t hold back on my account! :>)
I have been seething for several hours.
Thanks Jane.
That this is the very first apology ANY of these fuckwads have demanded since the first bombs hit the ground during “Shock and Awe (Shit)” is sad testimony indeed…
Next up, Hillary, how about demanding an apology for the “inappropriate” 50% slashing of funding for the treatment of traumatic brain injuries???
If it’s not too much trouble…
Wow. Hillary is a fool. Her short-term tactics doom any long term ambitions for the presidency she may have. They also virtually guarantee a bloody primary for her in the future.
Her last chance is to do the right thing by Ned. I will hold out hope on this until the 11th hour.
Off Topic (with apologies, though maybe not soooo OT)
This is their alleged, sorta, supposed “war on terra.”
The tail isn’t wagging the dog, there is no dog. And the public knows this, and whatever Kerry said (and I’m on the side of not really knowing what he has to apologize for), or what any other Dem says, it doesn’t matter.
Hillary is Joe Lieberman in a dress.
punaise @ 7
god forbid you should ever hear *my* geomotry joke
(its a shaggy dog story with the punch line:
The squaw of the hippopotomous hide is equal to the sum of the squaws of the other two two hides)
(no aspersions were cast in the making of this comment)
grayslady @ 12
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Her version of Democratic politics would never sell in Louisiana. We are looking for a populist with a bit of sleeze and a bit of spunk, and Hillary is not that. Believe it or not, I think Louisianans would warm up to a Feingold or to a Richardson.
punaise @
7
Not only were no aspersions cast in the making of your comment, you also did not go off on any tangents. *g*
*xyz @ 14
that’s just wrong
Hillary stands for Hillary. Period. She’ll throw anyone who gets between her and her objective overboard. That would include us. She’s bound and determined to get to the top, and if you’re inconvenient for her, you’re declared unnecessary ballast and tossed overboard.
I think she is answering the question, “whose next?”
SusanD @ 18
Truer words have not been spoken.
Thanks Jane — and high five to JK and FDL!
At least you don’t have “that woman” as your Senator! And to think she replaced the best Senator NY ever had –Pat Moynihan
At least now I don’t have to vote for the Greenie canndidate — stabbing Kerry like that gets me to plunk for Spencer with zero reservations whatsover!
Thanks sHill!
and that is a god awful picture of her too. she deserves that.
she has the same blood on her hands as every other enabler of this wretched war.
if this election doesn’t turn this country around, then billmon is right: people get the government they deserve.
On the brighter side,
we can now dispose with the flawed logic that Hillary is a good progressive option.
What Punaise said up top.
oh look! Coultergeist up next on KO! (apparently she’s in trouble with the law)
Nice pearls, Hill.
gak.
O’liely is flogging the rigamortified horse (Kerlary) and Joe Trippi is letting him.
That dude is an enabling puss.
Does Pox pay their guests?
All right, I’m weak. I am so angry with Hill!!! And I dislike her too. I can sum it up in one word. Betrayal.
I’d vote for Rick Santorum before I’d vote for her. The day she gets the party nomination for President is the day I change my registration to Independent. They will be seeking net roots/ progressive support come primary time 2008. I hope there is someone else to vote for. The thought of the DLC crowd back in power makes me sick. As a CT Democrat I can only say what they’ve done to Lamont is unforgivable. Schumer, Hil, Bill, Carper, Landrieu, Lowell, Davis et al, we won’t forget
Last time I saw a mouth like that it had a hook in it! (R. Dangerfield)
OldCoastie @ 19
Agreed. She’s going to be right there on the list. She’s on notice.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 27
whew, I feel better, do you OK kiddo?
plop, plop, fizz, fizz, oh what a relief it is!
grayslady @
12
I think you mean, “Polyester Pantsuit” but we get the idea.
PurpleGirl @
4
That’s ok. You’ve got six years to select and campaign for a replacement.
Jacqrat
A black polyester pantsuit.
grayslady @ 34
or yellow.
Oh… and Senator Clinton, shut-up about this ridiculous Kerry business. Just SHUT-UP!!!
Science fiction fans may remember Larry Niven’s Ringworld books, and the Pierson’s Puppeteers. Their entire psychology and decision-making were based on minimizing risk. Their leader was called “The Hindmost”, because clearly a smart leader leads from behind, letting others become casaulties. I’m thinking Hillary Clinton deserves that title.
If Hillary is the nominee in 2009 I will hold my nose and vote for her.
However
Between now and then I intend to work hard to see that my nose remains unbothered.
Hillary’s beginning to sound like a combination of Neville Chamberlain and Joseph Lieberman.
A perfect 10 on the political disaster scale.
angie @ 34
orange jumpsuit
1,321 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Hamsher and the Firepup Patriots:
The fight for American Democracy and constitutional government now enters the final phase. The last battle will be fought within the Democratic Party between January, 2007 and May, 2008. We now know that we have been trianulated into the position of fighting off a classic fascist power structure in order to create space for the consolidation of corporate power. The battle for control of the Democratic Party and the structure of the elected national leadership will determine whether or not our future lies within the chapters of “Brave New World” and “1984″.
Hillary Clinton is NOT an option, Firepups…we simply must stop her cold in the fight for Senate reorganization in January.
KEEP THE FAITH THERE’S STILL PLENTY A WORK TA DO!!
Could somebody please tell me what, if anything, Hillary Clinton stands for?
No, on second thought, better not.
punaise @ 39
noice.
I haven’t read all the comments yet, and will go back and do so, but just to let y’all know…
I made a personal vow over a year ago that if the Dems were boneheaded enough to nominate Hillary I would sever all ties with them. Which, given where I live, would mean I would have to vote for Republicans or nothing. That choice would be nothing. Who the F#CK thinks she would be a good choice in 2008??? HUH??? Let her stay in the Senate and do what she’s told…. GRRRRRR…. (Not that I feel strongly, or anything….)
raven @
29
Hillary - a better than average argument against “catch and release.”
ThatSinger @
9
Agree completely.
I suspect that Hillary has been declared the ‘08 Democratic candidate so often by the Republicans and the DLC that she sees it as fact.
Anyone who seems to be positioning themselves for that primary will most likely get figuratively kneecapped by Hillary. Since Kerry had seemed to be “positioning” himself to run again she’s just trying to eliminate him early and save herself some extra effort and campaign money.
I’m really shocked and saddened by the lack of solidarity in the national Democratic party; they just don’t give a flying fuck about anybody other than their incumbant buddies.
When I saw supposedly progressive Dems like Barbara Boxer fly across the continent to lend support to a guy she can’t hardly stand, and yet Billary can’t be bothered to take a 60-minute limo ride to nearby CT to say “Hi Y’all” for Ned, I’m stunned.
As a party, the Democrats may have seen their best days.
angie @ 31
Yes I do. ; )
This is the sort of shit Hillary has wrought. Look at the front page of CNN.com:
White House: Kerry apology right but late
Sen. John Kerry issued a statement Wednesday apologizing to anyone offended by his comments to college students about getting “stuck in Iraq.” He added: “I don’t want my verbal slip to be a diversion from the real issues.” Senior Republicans had jumped on his statement as insulting to troops. A White House statement said the apology “came late, but it was the right thing to do.”
grayslady @
12
Please. I’m old and arthritic and my sinuses are not what they used to be. The charitable thing would have been to post a spew alert before that mouthful of beer came out my nose…
clio @ 37
I think you’re onto something here :~)
Evil Parallel Universe @
11
You say there’s no dog, and I thought wagging a piece of tail was a good thing…
punaise @
1
Let’s make Hillary auxiliary.
Mike Stark on Olbermann right now.
Mike Stark on Keith
Hillary Clinton has become part of the “vast right-wing conspiracy”.
She was a good first lady to Bill.
She is a dubious Senator, imho, and responds mostly to the powerful in her constituency.
She has NO right to the nomination, not unless she repents and repudiates many of her positions and her ego will never do it.
Case closed, and I do not care how much money she has.
btw, KO plays the entire assault and battery with all the audio. Mike Stark, hero, on right now!
I’m one of those who thought that Kerry should simply STFU regardless of the original intent of his joke.
But with Hillary “Where’s my balls?” Clinton opening her trap, Jeeeeeeeebuuuuuussss!!!
Hillbaby, trying to knock John out of the 08 race now by repeating the Repug talking points and dissing him, kinda hurts the Dems 06 efforts, doncha think?
Doncha care? Oh wait, Hillbaby is all about inside-the-Beltway strategists and pollsters, and they say: Be Repug Lite! You know, balls and no brains.
Ok, you can have some brains, but 1st priority is balls, balls and more balls, because hell, you’re a woman, and nobody votes for women unless they’ve got balls.
Policies, shmolicies…give us chest-beating and ass-kicking and we’ll all be smoking stogies in the West Wing come January 09.
Come-on Hillbaby, kick John “Loser” Kerry to the curb and screw the Dems in the 06 elections. After all, Bill didn’t need ‘em, did he?
Punaise at 51.
It’s innate finger intelligence or piss-poor typing/proofreading ability.
Take your pick.
*xyz @
10
I would love to vote for a woman for president before I die. But I want one with balls.
Cujo359 @ 37
Wow. I’m going to have to dig into the bookshelf to find Ringworld… I think I remember where you’re going, and I’ll bet you’ve nailed it.
And Lord knows the Repellants don’t insult troops! No, they just send them into battle without armor, without other necessary equipment. Oh, and they let Halliburton give them bad food and water. And let’s not forget the “Stop Loss” program that sends them back to Iraq three and four times. And lack of medical care when they get home.
But they do it with respect.
Yeah, right.
grayslady @ 12
There speaks truth!
Sad for Hillary. She has yet to realize she has NO chance in 08, unless she gets a significant portion of the repugs (does she think they will greet her with flowers as their liberator?). She is droopy dog in a pants suit as someone previously said.
grayslady @ 12
We must remember to forward this to Russ Feingold’s presidential exploratory committee.
I guess I’m in the minority here because I think what Hillary said was right: it was inappropriate. A week before the election isn’t time to make jokes about Iraq, no matter how bad they may make Bush look. The speech was ill-timed and an attention grabber.
Go Mike Stark and Keith!
Bravo!
HRC is unsavory, insipid, tasteless, disagreeable, and distasteful. And these represent her best qualities.
FJM @
66
And this, folks is why we need to fight for a higher minimum wage - so liebertrolls can make a decent living!
Mike Stark on KO:
“It’s troubling when a grown man has to get his wife to fight his battles for him. What a cowardly bully.”
(He says George Felix Allen’s wife has been casting aspersions on him)
Hillary, Billary, dock, the Senator ran out the clock. And it’s bye bye Hill.
Well, that interview for the Democratic Party’s 2008 presidential nomination did NOT go well.
It’s almost as though they (Kerry & Hillary or DLC if you wish) don’t want Dems to win too big this year.
How about reminding the voters of how Republicans handed out envelopes stuffed with money on the House floor to get a bill passed?
How about reminding teenagers how the Republicans in the House cut the student loan program?
How about reminding them of how the Republican Congress had no problem with Bush lying to them about the cost of the health care reform bill?
How about letting the public know the Republican House could have stopped the Iraq war by cutting off military appropriations?
How about reminding the people over and over of how the Republican House was just a big ol’ rubber stamp for George W. Bush?
*xyz @ 30
I just wrote her and told her that I wouldn’t vote for her if she was the ONLY choice, and that I intend to actively campaign against her if she runs for president. Like she really gives a shit what I think…but that’s ok.
clio @ 58
I’ll go with the former, since I’ve got the latter covered myself.
I was going to add that if HRC is Holy Joe in a dress, that would mean Big Dog is Hadassah with a putz…but it’s clear she’s got her putz already.
the rude one gets it:
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/
Kerry’s joke may have failed, but from Iraq, WMD, Dubai ports, the class war and even the Cheney hunting accident, President Bush’s sick sense of humor shows the joke is on us.
For the grim details, see:
“Kerry’s Failed Joke, Bush’s Sick Humor.”
I just watched Mike Stark’s actions…he’s kind of a hack. I’ve done the same thing a bunch of times, and I never acted like the spaz he was. Sorry, but he was wrong.
There are ways to do this, but you have to be patient, calm, non-threatening, and polite. Believe me, there were times Joe Lieberman would have LOVED to have had me pitched through a window, but I didn’t give him or his henchmen a good reason.
When Ned Lamont was asked about Kerry, he deflected it right back on Bush and the war.
There’s a video and post by Matt Browner Hamlin of this over at MyLeftNutmeg.
Ned gets it right
Is Hillary actively trying to infuriate the center to left?
ack– Rahm and Mehlman on with Brokaw’s voice narrating on KO.
FJM @ 66
Well, a stand-up comic he isn’t but stuffing the Iraq war down the throat of the present administration is what this election is all about. Probably he should have just hit hard on real points. Somebody needs to take him off to a quiet room and say “Don’t even TRY to make jokes. You are obviously viscerally unable to do it…”
Jacqrat @
69
Now hang on. Agreeing with Hillary makes me a troll?
C&L has a good post about folks voting for Democrats and the screen saying they voted republican. Someone made the following comment and I think it’s a fuckingly marvelous idea:
Folks, let’s get the word out on this fast, and see if we can put a stop to Dieblod.
Whaddya say??
LindaR @ 60
I understand what you’re saying: integrity and courage. I hope the simpler macho definition disappears one day. As I see it, the problem occurred precisely because a man who was attacked as unmanly in 2004 thought that if he didn’t act macho, he couldn’t be seen as qualified to be President. I’d like to see a candidate that is grown up enough, and secure enough, to not worry about this.
Howard Dean spoke up, and didn’t throw Kerry under the bus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....&eurl=
Neither did Wes Clark.
John Kerry made a mistake trying to joke about “getting stuck in Iraq.” But this election isn’t about John Kerry; he isn’t running.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....33048.html
And neither did Ned Lamont.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/11/1/172416/059
All of the above have had Ned’s back, and have gone to bat for him.
Bus named Stand Up for a Change meet Hilliary,
Connecticut Bob @ 78
CT Bob– you truly are a wonderful citizen journalist, but I honestly respect Mike Stark who is, after all, operating in Virginia with a bully and a racist who spits on people, had a noose in his law office and is the son of Coach Allen.
I do not think he is a spaz or a hack at all.
Rock on Mike and Bob! To each his own.
No citizen or citizen journalist is wrong when they ask for the truth.
I so like sharing this Big Tent with y’all.
YEE-HAW… KO just named Diebold as WPITW.
Beware the politicians who dare not speak the truth to the delusional mob for fear of getting crucified.
FJM @ 83
she’s giving the Bush propaganda machine a helping hand.
Heh. Just got a push poll call from the campaign for the local Repuglican attorney general running for reelection. The clear purpose of the call was not to gather information but rather to push an extremely negative message about how his opponent wants to kill babies and he wants to save them, etc. The Repug has fallen behind in some polls. Guess he’s getting desperate. BTW the Democrat is one of those moderate Kansas Republicans who have Had Enough and switched parties.
KERRY CONCEEDED AND WITHDREW THATS THE NEWS. AND HE CONTINUES TO REMOVE ALL DOUBT ABOUT HIS FITNESS TO SEEK THE PRESIDENCY. IMAGINE THIS GAFFE ON THE INTERNATIONAL STAGE? SHADES OF BUSHISMS. I THINK KERRY IS A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.– A SKULL AND BONES COMPATRIOT OF THE BUSH. MR. GORE, IF DRAFTED, OR SEEKS IT OTHERWISE, WOULD MOP THE FLOOR WITH HILLARYS FROTHING SLOBBERS. BUT, WITH THE NECONS HOLDING FORTH, WILL THERE BE A YEAR NUMBERED 2008? –
easy on the caps, dude
can someone translate delbert for me?
Subway Serenade @ 84
We have a winner…….
Beautiful
Left Coaster:
Connecticut Bob @ 47
Dare I conjure ‘third party’. I am outraged at the lack of full steam support for Lamont and other Democrats by the heavy hitters within the party. At the top of my anger list is the Big dog and the Big Dogette. The Democrat movers and shakers are on thin ice.
Regardless of how the joke was delivered, the subject of the joke was our C-student president, and how a C-student president got us into Iraq. That was the joke. Kerry said so.
So… a slam on a C-student president was “inappropriate”?
I can understand an idiot Fox News viewer not understanding that that was what the joke was supposed to have been about… but not Hillary. She knew better.
Yeah, perhaps it’s “inappropriate”, if it comes from your main political rival. And yes, Jane’s spot-on when she says that Bill and Hill triagulated us right the hell out of a party.
Prediction: whatever electoral losses we sustain, our beloved media will blame them all next Wednesday morning on a combination of: [a] the Dems’ just not “understanding” the Red States, and; [b] John Kerry.
You just watch!
Which pretty much jibes with the “Jomentum in a dress” comment above. I have never voted for a Republican presidential candidate before, but if Hillarific gets the Dem nomination, I’ll be sorely tempted do do either that, or not vote at all.
scarecrow @ 85
yeah, true. How about: “one with gonads”??
Christy, you’ve won my life-long devotion with this post. I’m often more skeptical than you about Fitzmas, but you’re 100% right about Billary. She has been getting such a free ride on Iraq, the very issue for which we all want to demolish Lieberman.
And I intensely dislike the DLC.
Fifteen months til Hillary’s graceless concession speech after losing the Iowa caucus to Feingold. One week to Lieberman’s graceless non-concession concession speech after losing to Lamont. One week til all the conventional 2008 wisdom goes kablooey, Hillary. If us crazy internet weirdos can change the goddamned Congress, we can sure as hell pick a goddamned nominee. And it ain’t gonna be you. Sorry.
Keith is simply amazing and only tells the truth yet again tonight!
kerpow!
And why exactly do New York Demos love Hillary so?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 106
I think they love Hillary in much the same way that Floridians love Bill Nelson. Nelson ain’t 40 points ahead of Krazy Katherine Harris because he’s a political genius or because he’s well loved. He’s just ahead because he’s not a bug-shit crazy eyesore.
poor Casey goes to bat, yet there is no joy in Mudville
Oh. My. God…
KO is incredible….
I’m almost struck dumb…
HOT F*CKING DAMN…
FJM @
83
No, showing up in a previous comment thread and saying it’s time to give up on CT because Joe Lieberman will get more Democratic votes than Ned Lamont makes you a LieberTroll.
And a wet fucking blanket.
NorskeFlamethrower @ 40
Yes.
Hillary Clinton and Rush Limbaugh Trash John Kerry
Hillarush Limbton
angie @
87
Angie, fair enough. And thank you.
I was commenting more on his technique than his philosophy. I was a bit put off by Stark’s pushing and bumping in trying to get to the senator. You can do this with a lot less getting thrown to the floor if you use your head. That’s what I meant.
But yeah, he’s dealing with a tougher dude. As far as I know, Senator Lieberman doesn’t have a noose in his office.
Yet.