Login HereNed Lamont, Alan Schlessinger and Joe Lieberman's ego were not the only ones in attendance at today's debate. You wanted it...you asked for it...the Kiss Float returns!
The fabulous Kiss Float, the iconographic image of the CT Senate race if not the entire November election, is on the road once again. Spazeboy brings us the video as it comes out of storage to the delight of residents across the state of Connecticut.
For more recap of the debate from others in attendance, please visit:
My Left Nutmeg
CTBob (the artist formerly known as Bob Adams and the wonderful Kirby)
Spazeboy
LamontBlog
CTBlogger (should have video up soon)
We hear tell that there are some adventures the Kiss Float would like to make but so far they are running at quite a deficit, so Mom (whom we assume is somehow associated with Dad, the artist who created the float) is asking for PayPal donations over at My Left Nutmeg. I just made one myself -- the idea of Ed and Keith on the road again with the Kiss Float in the final days of the campaign just brings joy to my day.
And you can watch Ned's closing statements at Crooks & Liars . He looked very much the US Senator standing their next to petulant Joe Loserman.
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The Kiss float with sparkles!!
Maybe I’ll get to see THAT!
I’ll make a donation when I get home. The Kiss Float is what kicked off this whole political season for me, and it’s only gotten better with time.
We must be close to an election.
SMOOCH!
I just hit Ned’s tip jar.
Jane, “Mom” at My Left Nutmeg is asking for donations to help run the float. There was a similar post from “Dad” on dailykos.
Do you know if that person actually is connected with the float? I mean, anyone can put up a Paypal link and collect a bunch of cash. (This is not an accusation, it’s just “due diligence”).
If you can confirm that the link is legit that would be great. You might also want to add it to your article here at FDL.
http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/sh.....aryId=3867
I sent dad $150.00 a couple of weeks ago.
Please give.
Your participation in this grassroots movement is something that you will be able to tell your grandchildren about.
The Kiss Float is the symbolic epicenter of the wave that will crest on November 7.
Pardon the mixed metaphor.
I’m proud of you Joe-boy! You’re the only
foolbuddy who’ll take one for me.Laura Belle says “Howdy”! And quit playing with yourself. What…? Oh, I guess she was talkin’ to me. Heh, heh.
Gotta go now…no, really, I gotta go real bad, so adios amigo.
Yer BFF,
Junya
P.S. - Smooch! Boy oh boy do I like smooches wit you!
Jane, (or moderators) the CTBob link sends me to the FDL Wordpress page.
Also, you might want to remove the extraneous “to” in “out of storage to to the delight of residents”
Jane, I saw this morning where you’d encouraged people to make a small donation. I couldn’t do my normal amount for Ned, but I made a smaller donation. I hope it helps.
none @
6
Is there a post missing?
Jeebus, what's the record for being EPU'ed around here? I'm up to 3 for the day. cbear @ 106
Was it something I said?
gotta love a well or-Kissed-rated campaign
somebody has to hold the record, cbear.
As they say, some are born to greatness, others have it thrust upon them…
YEA! DO THEY NEED GAS MONEY TO KEEP THEM GOING FOR THE NEXT 22 DAYS?
'Play It Again , Jane' You must remember this A kiss is still a kiss A sigh is still a sigh The fundamnetal things apply So, Joe, goodbye</i>
Jane Hamsher @ 14
Wow! Do I get a plaque or something? Huh, do I, do I?
oh, please, please, please……
In case no one has mentioned it, Dave Johnson has a article on Huffingtonpost about CBS, in effect, running a pro Lieberman ad during “free speech” segment.
cbear @ 17
What you get is the scheming envy of your fellow commenters. I hope you like it there at the top, pal. Ain’t gonna be for long.
Woohoo! I luv that float just as much as Loserman hates it. I wonder what Alan Schlessinger thinks of it. Perhaps a CT doggie can get his opinion.
anjinsan @ 18
you're cracking me up over here. Sooo, do we have to name this honor? Like a triple axle? Ahem, A triple EPU,with flourishes?
A Moral Dilemma test I got at work:
For better or worse, here’s Anne Korblutt’s take.
The fact that Iraq is a disaster becomes clearer every day. I’d mention it at every opportunity.
anjinsan @ 19
I made it Ma!.. Top of the world, Ma!.. Top of the world! C'mon you dirty coppers!
Wow! Do I get … plaque or something?
“if you flossed Cronkite, you’ve lost Middle America”
Sooo, do we have to name this honor? Like a triple axle?
Ahem, A triple EPU,with flourishes?
I’m waiting for EPU himself to show up and make the call.
It looks like Fox’s Brit Hume wants to send your son & daughter to N. Korea now…
On Korea, Brit says “If the U.N. itself isn’t willing to do this then the United State with willing allies could do it… or the United States could do it by itself — which, I think, is probably the best hope…”
end
Crooks & Liars!
cbear @ 12
By definition, Santorum is the end result.
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 23
I think it’s a good summary and review. I think Ned will be able to bash away at Iraq and other issues in the next two debates.
maddog- I’d take a great pic.
I love the kiss float but may I suggest a slight addition that will make it even better?
Have someone dress in revolutionary uniform (red coat preferred) and go around with or on the float saying he’s Benedict Arnold and he supports Lieberman. He could have a sign that says “Turncoats for Joe.” Says General Arnold, “I like Joe, he’s my kind of guy, a traitor. What we always needed was bi-partisanship with the King.”
It’s time to get tough.
I wonder if it is sinking in to Holy Joe yet that it is all over. I missed the simulcast, but hope to catch the rebroadcast in an hour. He was left to dream for a while, and even I was getting that awful feeling that he would slime his way through. And go on to (in his dream) become a power broker, waiting in pompous majesty for the beggars from both sides to come hat in hand for his vote. In a perfect case, he could even be a “decider” for the Senate, in concert with Cheney.
But Schlessinger did not dry up and blow away, despite the tough love of Joe’s Republican allies. He’s just so damned……PARTISAN. He won’t play along and let Joe have his dream. How very unsporting. Instead of playing both sides, Joe is being told “shove off, no trespassing” by both sides. His act only works against one challenger at a time. He can’t play musical chairs when both seats are already taken.
Never forget, it’s “Connecticut for Lieberman”, not “Lieberman for Connecticut”. The sense of entitlement is so profound, he doesn’t even see the irony. I read that he immediately ducked out after the debate - better than sitting on his loose watery stool trying to answer impertinent questions. And facing that horrible Kiss Float again. The dream is fast becoming a nightmare.
3 weeks to go before election day- absentee votes comin in already in most states. Those who don’t close this week are probably out of luck.
dab from CT @ 30
He almost doesn’t have to. The voters mostly know that Ned is for withdrawing troops over a year and Joe has consistly supported whatever Bush defines a “stay the course.” And Ned’s point that this is a mistake is made on the news, every night.
Juan Cole is on PBS News Hour right now, making the points. And the Administration’s apologist is having to concede some of Cole’s points.
Republican support is cratering all over the map. The closer we get to the election the more likely any “big” issue that arises will appear to be a political ploy….
The latest CNN poll had females opposing the war by 70%…..Lost all the soccer-security moms eh Rover?
We’ll see what happens to Lieber-pud in the coming days.
-GSD
rwcole @ 33
NOT the case in CT.
The White House hinted last week that Clusterfuck would be out daily until the election campaigning aggressively. The implication was that he would be so provocative in his comments that the press would be compelled to cover them. Guess we were spared the first installment today.
I just saw this at TPM:
Pombo is a national disgrace to the Republican Party.
Pombo is such a bad role model that even Pete McCloskey, Pombo’s challenger in the primary election, couldn’t bring himself to endorse his fellow Republican this fall. Declaring “enough is enough,” McCloskey said he will vote for McNerney on Nov. 7. So should all voters in the 11th Congressional District.
Yeah, baby!!!
Morris Sheppard @ 32
HMMMMMM Morris - glad you’re on Ned’s side….you are on his side, right?
Casablanca:
Rick-Ned
Victor-Joe
Ilsa-CT Democratic Senate Seat
Ugerte [Peter Lorre]-Alan Schlessinger
Signor Ferrari [Sydney Greenstreet] Karl Rove
Captain Renault-Bill Clinton
I love the fact that Juan Cole, rejected by Yale after pressure from the rightwing, is getting an extended interview with Jim on News Hour. Don’t see a lot of Yale profs getting the same treatment. The Connecticut connection mirrors Ned vs Lieberman today. The media are shifting.
OTOH, now we get Jim Vandehei and Adam Nagourney, discussing the parties shifting dollars to the key states.
I can vouch for the link at MLN — don’t know about any others. “Mom” and “Dad” created and control the float — it is not affiliated with the campaign, which is why donations are being solicited. The money will be used for both gas and a single truck that can be rented for the rest of the campaign, and go out full time.
Local media has played the debate pretty much down the middle — surprisingly so. The national media only cared about Iraq and that they didn’t dwell on Iraq. Nobody from CT even cared about that — we are pretty much Iraq-ed out. There are 2 more debates for that.
Also, national media spin is that Schlesinger is a nut case - when in fact, he impressed just about everybody in the room. The state and national Rs are going to look like idiots for leaving this guy high and dry. He is a totally viable R candidate.
In the last thread, Tim Wayne asked where to see the CT Senate debate. It and many more are at campaignnetwork.org
I don’t understand why this race is even close.
Joe has plenty o cash. I get that. But who is behind him among voters? Is Connecticut overstocked with old fogies who see themselves when they look at Joe?
Is Lamont having difficulty getting his message out? It’s such a small state, I can’t imagine that’s true. Again, why isn’t Connecticut going for Ned in a big way?
It looks like the vids from the CT debate are up. see http://www.nbc30.com/politics/10088509/detail.html
I’m at work and everything is blocked here. Maybe someone could check the link . . .
kirk murphy @ 28
Frankly, I don't see the difference. You know, one man's Santorum is another man's Jomentum and all that. Both can be quite nasty without, ahem, proper protective gear. In fact, I would'nt go near Joe or Rick without a full body comdom and hazmat suit for fear of getting some on me. I was concerned for Jane's safety the whole time she was in Conn.
Vandehei acknowledges the wisdom of the 50-state strategy — hello, Rahm! — that might lead to a 50-seat swing. Nagourney repeating Repub claims as “beliefs” that they only thing they’ll lose 12 or so seats in the House.
It seems like everyone likes the kiss float video, I wish I had caught it in action for y’all, but it was a huge hit. There’s no way Joe Lieberman got in without driving past it.
rwcole @
37
The voters will be shoving the cotton further into their ears. I know when I hear Bush speeches I think of the Charlie Brown teacher soundtrack.
-GSD
I thought that was a decaffinated brand of Joe
Something amusing. Perhaps check the videos of Michele Bachmann “Friday Funnies”. If you haven’t already done so. Bachmann is the Republican candidate for the 6th. Congressional District in Minn., I believe.
http://www.eleventh-avenue-south.com/
spazeboy @ 49
You guys did a terrific job on the Schlesinger interview and then today.
The initial NYT review, linked above, is fine. I also found this over at CT Bob’s:
Smart.
Good question - what groups of CT voters are still for Joe? Some of the older union members? Some of the black churches? Certainly all the Jewish voters are probably with him, but can only assume that Joe’s obscuring the truth about his weasling behavior has some thinking he is still an honest broker. NOPE.
Jane, re #6 and #11, there’s no post missing. I’m asking whether you can confirm that the Myleftnutmeg post that I linked to is legitimate, i.e. that the paypal link actually goes to the people running the float. Anybody at all can create an account at myleftnutmeg and post whatever they want including paypal links, so if you’ve got some additional knowledge about that particular account, or could confirm with the float people that the post came from them, it would be great and I’d send them a few bucks.
Bit NOLA @
44
IIRC about 30-35% of Joe’s support is from Democrats. Everything else is from the GOP, which is why Schlessinger’s good showing today was such a victory for us. It siphons cons away from Joe and Schlessinger painted Joe as a turncoat in ways that Ned couldn’t.
Joe Lieberman - Your Time Is Up
*xyz @
56
Yep. That looks like the slogan for the next 20 days.
I sent in $25. It all adds up. I love this political theater!!
Bit NOLA @ 44
Everyone is blaming Ned and I think that’s a bit unfair. He’s running against an 18 year incumbent.
1) Yes, I think seniors are a big part of Lieberman’s support. They know him, they remember the Lieberman who existed before Bush got into office. Like in the debate - he refers to himself as just a jewish guy from Stamford, Ct. I think any remaining Dems supporting Lieberman are primarily seniors or blue collar Reagan Dems.
2) Connecticut is a blue state - but there are quite a few unaffiliated and republicans.
Let’s not forget that right after Lamont won the primary we had Cheney, Bush and Lieberman on air saying the terrorists will get us if you elect Lamont. And then the nation was put on red alert and air travel came to a screeching halt. This was big news and everyone was made aware of how “dangerous” Ned Lamont supposedly was.
3) In my humble opinion, the Lamont campaign has not been using campaign commercials effectively. They should have had Lieberman attack ads on starting in August. I think this has been their Achilles heal - they philosophically do not see the value of ads.
Unfortunately, ads would have made the real Lamont much better known - before the many Lieberman ads framed him as negative.
4) The polling doesn’t make sense - this is an unusual race and I don’t think the polling reflects the reality on the ground
none @ 53
Mom is good people. She’s affiliated with the float. “Mom” and “Dad” at My Left Nutmeg are the parents of “ATalbot” another MLN poster who was at Lamont’s first ever event with me.
The float was his idea, but since ATalbot was working for Ned over the summer he couldn’t actually build the float (too busy), so his dad did.
newspaperbrat @ 39
You bet. Ned’s got my support and he’s already gotten my money. I’ll give some gas money to the kiss float, too, but I wish there was a way to get this idea out to them.
Hooooooay Spazeboy!!!!!!
Bit NOLA @ 44
I think the CW is shaping up to be a combination of the following:
1. CT is a BLUE state, not necessarily a LIBERAL state
2. Lamont allowed Lieberman to get back his ‘Joementum’ in the first week after the primary when Lamont should have been going for the jugular
3. Extremely unusual dynamic with National Repubs overtly backing Lieberman
4. CT is a pro-defense state with many ‘war’ jobs e.g. Groton, UT/Sikorsky
5. CT is very pro-Israel and Lieberman has cleverly weaved the pro-war and pro-Israel themes to his advantage
Joesbud - “we will serve no whine before it’s time (to go)”
So who won the Bottom of the Ballot contest? Did I miss it?
The NAACP will be watching 10 states on election day with poll moniters.
Rover, the jig is up.
-GSD
tfitznc - I agree with points 1 and 3-5. Not so much 2.
I do think his campaign was asked to back off while the Dem party “reasoned” with Lieberman.
Joe Lieberman can reject the Democratic primary results.
Joe Lieberman can keep talking past his time limit in the debates.
But there is nothing Joe Lieberman can do if he is defeated on November 7.
On November 7, the voters of Connecticut will make a decisive statement:
Joe Lieberman, we’ve had enough - your time is up!
tfitznc @ 62
Ned needs to make the case that the Iraq war has not been good for Israel. In fact, it has been a disaster, see: Lebanon. Bush, and Lieberman’s hawkish policies have endangered Israel, not strengthened it. A real friend of Israel would see this in an instant.
Iraq: bad for the war on terror, bad for Israel.
Argonaut @ 64
My entry was: Joe had a lowbottomy, but no one laughed. sigh.
(actually, I think I blew the joke and wrote it wrong. This was my “overs.”)
Is there any musical accompaniment to the float as it drives along?
I’d recommend “close to you” by the Carpenters.
That seems appropos.
Before I go watch the debate (w/out the nuisance of blogging it) I wanted to share my latest post.
sofistic @ 50
“decaffinated brand of Joe”???
Um, um, er…Sofistic, I’m not sure you REALLY understand what we mean by “Santorum” here.
Go see kirk murphy @ 28 and click on the Santorum link.
If you do know what it means…well then, I gotta admire the sheer audacity (and depth of depravity) you display for even suggesting that it might be consumed as a beverage.
Even I’m grossed out by that. Kudos.
Morris Sheppard — I agree it could help to make the argument that the Bush/Lieberman Iraq and ME policies have made Israel less secure. Lamont has been making that argument, and it was in his remarks today, near the end of the debate. — Don’t think I’ve seen an ad that stressess that point, yet.
dab from CT @ 66
Fair enough. It is easy to have 20/20 hindsight. I didnt like the idea of time off for a Maine clambake (if true). Backing off doesnt make sense to me unless it was a Hillary move to cover her bases.
Time to GOTV (a real unknown with Lieberman’s ‘unique’ position). I sent 250 to Lamont, maybe I’ll send 25 to Schlesinger!
defecanated brand of Joe
scarecrow @ 73
Neither have I. It would be a good point to make to the fairly large Jewish voting bloc in CT.
Wow. Tony Snow unable to say US winning in Iraq.
Tony Snow faces reality
And Hardball leads off with carnage in Iraq — Shuster reports on its effect on the polls and DeWine, etc. Shuster gets it all: Weldon, Mehlman, Rove.
punaise @ 76
would be 99% Joe free
Thanks to all for the responses to my question. I don’t get the complexities of Conn. politics (being a Southerner and not a true political junkie) but I begin to see what’s up with SloJoe’s support there.
My knowledge of Ned comes entirely from the blogs, and must be way off from reality as experienced in Conn. Hope he fights the fight that will win, even if he has to get nasty. Joe deserves some nasty.
I say, target his support groups with the raw tonnage of evidence that shows Joe could give a shit about them. He’s bound to have won over the entirety of the progressive set, go after Joe’s core. Expose him for the fraud that he is. (As we all know from the wonderful internets.)
Bustednuckles @ 21
and fig leaf clusters?
OT: I was kidding in a previous thread when I wrote, in essence, that the Republicans would blame Curt Weldon’s troubles on “liberals” at DoJ. Sadly, truth apparently seems to be running pretty much neck-and-neck with my sense for the absurd:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001809.php
CREW (Citizens for Ethics and Responsibility) brought a complaint against Weldon in April of 2004. Of course, the liberal conspiracy chose the most opportune moment, when it had the most Senate seats to protect and they’d already lost the Presidential race, to spring this on the American public.
http://www.citizensforethics.o.....hp?view=38
[Note the date on the byline.]
Whoever said “you can’t make this shit up” was right. I tried, and reality beat me to it by at least a couple of hours.
kirk murphy @ 78
Joestoolsample
Just gave- The Kiss Float rides again…YESSSSSS
punaise @ 82
Now you made me think of Joe Sample of the Crusaders. Wouldn't wan't to conflate those two.
Matthews interviewing Hamilton and Baker on Iraq Study Group — trying to find a “non-partisan” way out of the quagmire. This is both an implicit condemnation of “stay the course” and a lifeline being thrown to its advocates. They can all say, “I’m waiting for the bipartisan report and will consider it’s recommendations after the elections.” They’re trying to take the war issue out of the election, just like Nixon tried to do with “I have a secret plan to end the war,” back in 1968.
The counter is to say, “we need to hold accountable those who made this blunder, and got us into this mess, and made us less safe; and there’s no guarantee that there is a good way out of the quagmire; that’s why it’s a quagmire.”
Morris Sheppard @ 84
my bad - it was supposed to read "Joe's tools? ample!" (not….)
scarecrow @ 85
This desire for a “nonpartisan” solution to the problem caused by Republicans reminds me of rich people calling “class warfare!” whenever someone points out how the system unfairly advantages said rich people.
BAKER IS A liar AND A crook…PLAIN AND SIMPLE. i DON’T BELIEVE A WORD THAT con ARTISTS SAYS period~!
Franco @ 89
Well, don’t worry, cause he hasn’t said anything substantive yet, and he’s been on for 10 minutes.
OT Your daily gas and oil prices
Average price for regular gasoline 10/16/06 in 50 states and DC
$3.00 plus 1 state : Hawaii
$2.90 plus 0 states
$2.80 plus 0 state
$2.70 plus 1 state : Alaska
$2.60 plus 0 states
$2.50 plus 6 states
$2.40 plus 2 states
$2.30 plus 6 states
$2.20 plus 13 states
$2.10 plus 15 states
$2.00 plus 7 states
Average national price: $2.226, down $.024 from 10/13/06
Down 54.5 cents from same time last year.
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057 9/5/2005
Highest average price: Hawaii $3.012
Lowest average price: Missouri $2.014
http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp
Nymex Crude Future $60.20, up $1.63 from 10/13/06
Dated Brent Spot $59.75, up $1.05
WTI Cushing Spot $59.94, up $1.37
Gasoline continues its decline at its slower rate. Oil rose. It couldn’t break lower for what are I think fundamental reasons. Now we have fall setting in. And there will be an OPEC meeting sometime. *yawn*
Franco @ 89
Hear Hear - well said Franco! It grates my nerves to listen to Matthews fauning all over both Baker and Hamilton. Aghhhhhhhhhh!
punaise @ 76
Still 100% cr@ppy!
spazboy - Great piece but the video clip doesn’t work
Hugh @ 4:22 pm (#90)
I haven’t paid attention to this before. Is that a normal range of prices? I’m not surprised Hawaii is so expensive, but MO being so much lower than average?
punaise @ 86
Damn, you're good.
punaise @ 87
oh - that's a relief. i've been trying to figure out the first version … no luck so far!
Reports are that old man Bush is “dying inside” at the reign of error foisted upon this nation by his dissipated, agitated half-nitwit of a son.
Too bad Poppy, suffer the pain the rest of us have lived with and knew was coming down the pike with that sorry assed lout at the helm of the ship of state.
Nice of you to send Jim Baker in to pull his nuts out of the coals once again…
Kind of like when you had Rove driving him around in the 70’s so he wouldn’t kill anyone while loaded.
-GSD
Cujo359 @ 94
Gas prices are always lowest in red states and where Bush needs the most votes.
The talking point is that gas prices are down because oil is now cheaper. I call bullshit.
Oil has dropped, at most, about $15 per barrel, from around $70 to around $55. It’s now $60. That works out to be a decrease of about 30 cents per gallon. Yet gas prices have dropped almost 85 cents a gallon. where does that extra 50 or 55 cent decrease come from? My bet is from Exxon Mobil’s interest in keeping Bushies in power, which may be well worth a short term drop in what are already enormous profits. Nobody’s saying that they’re taking a loss at these prices, either.
Now this is getting really disingenuous. Baker says he hasn’t reached any conclusions, and then concludes that leaving would leave a failed state that has already become a haven for terrorists; he then supports the Bush claim that the 650,000 death estimate is not credible, siting Bush/Rummy, after saying he hasn’t seen any classified information and is not privy to the NIE. Meanwhile, Hamilton is being the nice bipartisan Dem
[[[scarecrow pounds head on keyboard and pulls staw out]]]
So does Chris ask: “So are you telling us that the US has created a ‘failed state’ that is a ‘haven for terrorists’?” Don’t ask.
Cujo359 #95,
Historically, I would put Missouri among the cheaper states wrt gasoline.
America’s dumbest Congressmen
crikey
Franco @ 89
Yep, that ol’ boy is knee deep in all the dirty doodoo of the Bush Monkey Clan.
WTF happened to Lee Hamilton? I used to respect him, but now he seems to be nothing more than a useful tool for Chimpy/Kean/Baker.
kirk murphy @ 96
" we could tell you, but then we'd have to keel you"
scarecrow @ 100
I think you all are being way to hard on Mr. Baker. If you look real closely, he has a mysterious bulge in the back of his jacket . . . do you have any idea how difficult it is to speak coherently when you are on a ‘talking points’ conference call with
Barbara Bush, the Carlisle Group, and the Saudi royal family?
I think he’s doing quite well.
punaise @ 104
good to the last plop
spew warning / prolly not office-safe: google “stool”, click on “images”, and take a look at the second one: Yael Davids Stool back
some people have entirely too much time on their, uhh, hands.
windje @ 105
(breaks ziggurat):
No. 2 filter?