Well, kids. I'm back. Thank goodness for your optimism and tremendous insights on Friday night. You pulled me back from the brink, after my depressing dinner with some of the centrist and monied Dem gentry. Thank you kindly for your heroic efforts in the comments section. You fortified me so that when I saw this piece about the netroots in Time today, I resolved to get to work immediately on some posts and other writing that will drive home the truth about the budding blog infrastructure being both a vital medium for exchanging information and ideas, and for organizing. Maybe it is, as Jeffrey Feldman suggested in the comments, a matter of leadership and habits. In other words, I agree that we, who see the tremendous possibilities and value that blogs offer our democracy, must be the ones to lead the funders to the promised land, and teach them new media habits.
Afterall, it's not surprising that Democratic funders do not understand the ballast that progressive blogs are and will continue to be to the Democratic party. They don't know us. They eat a mainstream media diet, perhaps peppered with the occasional Nation or American Prospect article, if we're lucky. And the mainstream media regularly trash the blogs, with few exceptions, with pieces like Perry Bacon Jr.'s this week:
...Moderate Democrats say it with remorse, conservatives with glee, but the conventional wisdom is bipartisan: progressive bloggers are pushing the Democratic Party so far to the left that it will have no chance of capturing the presidency in 2008.
Or maybe the Netroots aren't all that. Make no mistake, these online activists are having a profound impact on the Democrats and on politics in general. But the phenomenon is in its infancy. Compared with established interest groups like organized labor and conservative Christians, the Netroots play a small role in national politics. Even their most ardent players now recognize that you can't create a true movement using nothing but modems and instant messaging.
Oh, if only Perry and his ilk would spend a week really learning what the progressive blogs are about. First of all, they cannot lump all blogs and bloggers under a one-size-fits-all label, as there are those who are citizen journalists, researchers, commentators, activists, historians, Constitutional attorneys, movie producers, radio DJs, public relations professionals, professors, teachers, soldiers, and, increasingly, former and current members of their own media ranks. You name it, and you'll find it on the blogs. We are their fellow citizens, and we've finally found ways to share ideas and information without having to rely on Perry's editorial judgment, time constraints and, sometimes, outright biases.
And while some blogs focus on writing and investigating, or commentary and media criticism, many are also run by activists and pols who communicate with each other and organize their fellow citizens to stand up for our democracy. Perry thinks this is new.
What's more, the Netroots are, paradoxically, attempting to maximize their effectiveness by going off-line. MoveOn is organizing its members to make a combined 5 million phone calls before Election Day, asking people to vote for Democrats. Markos Moulitsas, who runs Daily Kos, is talking about building real, bricks-and-mortar gathering halls where progressives can meet and organize political activities in person. Jane Hamsher, who runs the piquant online hangout Firedoglake, and other bloggers have started the "roots project," in which they employ nonweb political tactics like writing letters to the editors of their local newspapers. "We can hammer the New York Times and the Washington Post forever," Hamsher said, but "candidates are more influenced by what we're doing in their own backyards."
Even with these changes, the Netroots won't be kingmakers. The fact is, day-to-day campaigning in 2006 is not very different from how it was in 1996: candidates call a few very rich people to ask them to give money so the campaign can run ads on television and hope soccer moms catch them between cooking dinner and driving to practice. If the Democrats win in the fall elections, the roots of that victory will not be on the Net.
First, I don't think any bloggers I know are out to be "kingmakers." In the year that I have gotten to know many in this community, I have primarily experienced, in myself and others, the thrill that citizens can talk to each other, share ideas, build alliances and take action. There is a true desire to build a movement that will make this country more fair for more people, and one way to do that is to help elect more progressive candidates. And, there have been offline campaigning and organizing activities such as these all along. Maybe the Perrys are just waking up, and perhaps the funders are, too. So, back to Jeffrey Feldman and his very good thoughts on leadership and habits, and how to help people understand the need for continued growth of the progressive blogosphere:
I don’t think that the only reason we all see your points and (mostly likely) agree is simply because we understand the arguments or see the ideas. It’s also because we are now politically built of a new set of habits. In order to bring the “big” folks in your narrative into the story, we will also need to bring them into our habits.
Why not give these guys the blog equivalent of personal trainers? Send them a person everyday who sits with them for an hour and walks them through the basics of how to participate in the blogs–sets up their profile, logs them on, shows them the sites, helps them participate in a comment thread, post a diary. And we could do this for them from now until 2008. A blog personal trainier program for potential Liberal/Progressive/Democratic philanthropists.
Habits. That’s the key. Miraculously, we have changed our habits–but they have not changed theirs. But we can help them along. Would they be open to a blog personal trainer? Some might not be, but it only takes one to succeed and the rest will follow.
There is something to Jeffrey's idea. Whether it's a blog personal trainer who actually sits with these funders, or whether there is some other way to best introduce them, I'm not sure and would like for us all to discuss further. But the notion that we should teach them some new habits seems like a course worth pursuing. We must start at the beginng with these folks, and then keep them abreast of the work being done in the blogosphere, so that they see us as an integral and worthy component of the infrastructure for disseminating ideas and info, as well as organizing and bringing more people around to voting for Democratic and progressive candidates. Perhaps it starts with some outreach and a report that aggregates some of the successes we've seen emanate from the blogs, something created particularly for Democratic funder types.
And, as we find the ways to introduce ourselves to the funders, we must bring more people to the blogs. Perry's article says there are an estimated six million folks who are a part of the netroots. After writing that piece on Friday, and getting charged up by your enthusiasm, I decided I had to personally start sharing my enthusiasm for the blogs with everyone I meet. So, I started talking to friends, who kind of get it and those who don't at all. I'm sending links to posts and encouraging people to read them and to check the blogs regularly. I aggregate posts from many blogs, to give them a taste of what's out there. At a party this weekend, I chatted up total strangers and urged them to get involved. You might expect people to look at you like you've got two heads when you start talking about blogs, but I found quite the opposite. In fact, I came home with the business cards of three people from that one party, who said they really wanted to find some way to get more involved, and to understand what is happening in the blogosphere. Ironically, one turned out to be a program officer of a major liberal foundation!
Just think if all six million of us could bring another ten people to the blogs and get them engaged in various ways, online and offline, over the next month. We'd certainly start getting the attention of funders quickly, perhaps they would finally see the value in investing in WHAT WORKS and what is connecting the citizens of this nation more and more. Perhaps some much needed money for operating support would finally be funneled into the blogs.
We just need to keep showing people how necessary the blogs are, in getting the word out and building momentum for necessary change. And if we are indeed pushing the Democratic party to the left, maybe it's because the wingnuts were so successful in skewing everything so utterly and grotesquely to the right. We're talking about a necessary corrective to the political spectrum in this country. Letting the media paint us as "left-wing radicals" and "crazy 60s types" is effecting how funders see blogs as well. We are about winning elections, and standing up to authoritarianism. Nothing radical there. But, it sure is telling that Dem funders see us as radical, so it's time to attack that meme.
I want to leave you with some other possible actions to take this week, in addition to these longer-term goals. With the midterms fast approaching, we've got to do our part to point people toward tangible actions they can take over the next few weeks. And since the corporate media cannot be counted on to cover the myriad problems concerning voting and elections, and to point citizens toward action, I hope you'll join the incredibly energetic and whip-smart organizers at Mainstreet Moms: Organize or Bust and Pollworkers for Democracy.
This is about protecting our elections. Trex has been doing a stellar job of pounding away at Diebold here at the Lake, but feisty Megan Matson and Felicity Crush, from MMOB, are hoping to get the word out about their Give a Day for Democracy campaign, which is being co-sponsored by VoteTrustUSA and Working Assets. First, watch their video, above. And check out this site for a new movie on this very subject, out this week.
With the current national shortage of pollworkers--by nearly 500,000!--and all the persistent controversies around voting machines and elections, they've come up with an easy way to do something about it. Sign up to work the polls, people!
“It's time to give a day for democracy and sign up to work the polls,” says Megan Matson. "The only way our democracy can truly work is by turning concern into action and becoming part of the solution. Helping voters and assisting elections officials is a simple, supportive and paid way to do this."
At present pollworkers are hired, trained and paid by their local election officials to work in their county on Election Day – the average age of a pollworker is 72. Pollworkers for Democracy is recruiting pollworkers to help with the kind of problems seen in recent primaries: thousands of frustrated would-be voters, long delays, and confusion generated by failing voting machine systems. These problems, combined with a recent flurry of lawsuits and a growing stack of government and institutional reports against electronic voting machines have lead to low public confidence in the American electoral system.
The Pollworkers for Democracy campaign also plans to collect pollworker observations through an online survey. Participants are encouraged to keep an eye out for problems at the polls such as the mishandling of voter registration requirements, delays and errors due to failing electronic voting systems, voter intimidation,and issues surrounding the use and counting of provisional ballots. The campaign will also be looking for reports of well-run precincts and best practices among elections officials. The pollworker survey is linked to a national Election Incident Reporting System supporting informed election reform
solutions.
Ummm, I know my plate is pretty full with hijacking the Democatic party and making it succumb to my evil plans for irrelevancy and unelectability, but I think I'll go sign up now to offer assistance to my local elections officials.
Let's all give a day for democracy, and show those Dem funders and the media what the blogosphere is truly about.
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Mr. Olbermann is my hero.
KO KO’s 43
About time somebody held him to account
Holy Shit! KO just gave me the greatest moment of tv I’ve ever experienced. Bar none!
KO has just slammed Bush in the most appropriate and stunning comment. If you have not seen it make sure you do. It is the best statement he has made about bush so far. Keith is my hero.
KO smack down again, it is becomming a weekly thing.
Keith will be on again in California at nine tonight. Watch!!!!!!!!!!!
KO is definitely a true hero. And so are the folks behind Pollworkers for Democracy. Check them out, and sign up to help out at the polls.
I was floored when I got a call today from the California Democratic Party, telling me they have local telephone banks available for anyone who has the time and the inclination to help…
I told her I was already doing as much as I could but it was evident that the passion in my voice inspired her to make more “annoying” calls.
It Feels Good to Help! Get to it!
Keith!
What a statement…
A Pulitzer….
Jack
Keith Obermann absolutely rocked tonight!!! I salute his brass balls.
Wow! I just came in from a jog in the middle of Keith’s speech. Wow!
I can’t wait to see the whole thing on C&L.
ceci @ 10
And may I be the first to advise (on this thread, anyway):
KEITH! Please stay off of small planes! We need you.
Bless You.
It’s broadcast, so won’t be a Pulitzer, but could easily be a Peabody.
I want to have Keith’s babies.
Via onegoodmove;
Ben-Veniste about Preznit Commatose ignoring OBL;
http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/
KO was unbelievable. Fearless.
He connected all the dots - up to and including clips of torture from the movie 1984.
I am stunned and speechless.
And I will echo a concern others have verbalized. Please, Mr. Olbermann - do not fly in small planes. (I hope he has bodyguards.)
Liberal Heart @ 13
Get in line honey.
There is a bumper sticker around that says (something like), “If the people lead, the leaders will follow.”
The same thing apparently applies to blogs. The standard print people are in such a different and established/-ment world, that I think they really can’t see what’s happening in front of them.
I don’t bother with things like Time because its news is always days or weeks old by the time it gets into print and because the editing process makes it read as it is written, by boring committee, but unfortunately a lot of people take it as gospel.
In time, I think they will learn to see, but in the meantime we just have to keep on keeping on. (How’s that for an old-time cliche?)
Watch this on the MSNBC website, Countdown page as soon as it’s posted there. We need to make clear to MSNBC we appreciate Keith’s forceful commentary. Ask your friends and family to read at the MSNBC website, too. They’re counting.
Republicans can’t be trusted to rein in this rogue President.
Hey Jennifer,
Great post. I’ve been trying to introduce some like minded folks to the blogosphere.
This post will bridge the gap.
What a great addition you’ve been to to the all-star lineup at FDL.
How’s the M. T. Wheeler book project coming?
I have to wait till 11, but I’ll do it. Getting to be too much of a habit though. I need tivo.
Way OT, but interesting and ties a bit with the misperception of the radical left -
Who knew there was something called the Declaration of Peace, Week of Action going on now?
http://www.declarationofpeace......id=2011077
I only did through my church (national committee office). Almost all of the “mainstream” Protestant churches are in lockstep with the “radical left” on the war being a very bad idea and one that needs to be put to bed now, minimum wage and poverty and education initiatives needing increased attention, support for troops by bringing them home, etc.
I wonder if the non-violent protests planned for tomorrow and Weds will get bodies and if so, if they will get press.
Fitz?
Constant Reader @ 17
I think we have to do more than just “keeping on” though. I think we have to reach out, bring more people to the blogs to actually read them and get involved in various ways. The more we can chip away at the myths that reporters at places like Time keep peddling, the better off our country will be.
Liberal Heart,
Yes. A Peabody as a Wake-up Call…
Let’s reclaim our Nation…
Jack
I can hear it now:
Reporter: Mr. President, I’d like to know what your reaction is to recent remarks by Keith Olbermann.
President Bush: I don’t know what he said; to tell you the truth, I don’t pay much attention to him.
Only one of these statements can be true:
OR
Which is it Perry? These statements cannot both be true, yet Time readers are given them both as proof that bloggers are bad.
sheesh
T- @ 19
Good, I hope it does help. I guess I realized after that dinner last week, and in reading the comments here, etc., that we really have to start at the beginning for a lot of folks. Just because I get it, and other bloggers and blog-readers get it, it isn’t enough. We need to better explain what we are, and reach out to more people. So, the shit just don’t fly any more.
And the book is moving along. Working on lining up a distributor this week.
Liberal Heart @ 13
So do I, and I’m a straight male!
Dorgan and the amazing truth testimony up on cspan again at 12am and 509am on cspan 1
http://inside.c-spanarchives.o.....hedule.csp
tpres2000 @ 24
…gnashing his teeth all the while, of course.
Constant Reader @ 17
I hope that you’re right. But, the MSM has been complicit in what’s happened for a long time (e.g. witch hunt against the Clintons, so on). When/if they realize how they’ve been played, do you really think there’d be a mea culpa coming? It may not pay to underestimate the American people but it does seem to for American journalists.
Great post, Jennifer. Everyone’s excited about Keith but I did like your post a lot. Last Friday I was kind of depressed after reading your post about the funders, but now you and Keith have picked me back up.
I liked this line:
Whether it’s a blog personal trainer who actually sits with these funders, or whether there is some other way to best introduce them, I’m not sure and would like for us all to discuss further.
I had to laugh at the image of the funders being so fucking stupid they need a trainer to hold their hand and show them how to read a blog and comment on it.
But what can we do? Should we e-mail them links to some really good posts?
After a deeply depressing day (over that sham of a “hearing” by Specter), Mr. K8 and I are off to the local monthly PDA meeting.
One of the agenda items is the protest on Friday against
Josef GoebbelsKarl Rove when he shows up in Scottsdale AZ this Friday to spread his evil anti-American poison to the wealthy pigs here in town.Trying to see if Mr. K8 can take off from work so we can be there! Or be square.
Tomorrow it’s back to phone banking from home for Herb Paine.
When I get a chance, I’ll report on the Jim Pederson fundraiser we attended last night.
Gosh, Keith was the shot in the arm I really needed today — his fearlessness is contagious!
Keep the faith, Firepups! Some days are very dark, but the test of courage is keeping to your heart-held principles even when the skies are the darkest you’ve ever seen. I keep thinking of Washington’s men getting frostbite at Valley Forge, but sticking with the plan for revolution against King George even when all seemed hopeless.
How can we lose faith with that type of example in our tradition?
BLITZER: … that the CIA and the FBI had, in his words, certified that al Qaeda was responsible, he was still president until January 20, 2001. He had a month, let’s say, or at least a few weeks to respond.
Why didn’t he?
BEN-VENISTE: Well, I think that was a question of whether a president who would be soon leaving office would initiate an attack against a foreign country, Afghanistan. And I think that was left up to the new administration. But strangely, in the transition there did not seem to be any great interest by the Bush administration, at least none that we found, in pursuing the question of plans which were being drawn up to attack in Afghanistan as a response to the Cole.
snip
BLITZER: And we asked the White House to respond to Ben- Veniste’s comments and the deputy White House spokeswoman Dana Perino gave us this statement. “The bombing was on October 12th, 2000. The president wasn’t even in office.” That was the statement and as far as what President Bush did do after he was in office during those eight months, the White House referred us to what Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, then the national security adviser to the president, what she testified before the 9/11 Commission.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA.....om.03.html
Full transcript of KO;
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15004160/
OT as usual: Your daily oil and gas prices
Average price for regular gasoline 9/25/06 in 50 states and DC
$3.00 plus 1 state
$2.90 plus 1 state
$2.80 plus 2 states
$2.70 plus 4 states
$2.60 plus 5 states
$2.50 plus 4 states
$2.40 plus 7 states
$2.30 plus 9 states
$2.20 plus 10 states
$2.10 plus 8 states
Average national price: $2.384, down $.057 from 9/22/06
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057 9/5/2005
Highest average price: Hawaii $3.141
Lowest average price: Missouri $2.107
http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp
Nymex Crude Future $61.82 (I screwed up on the figure from yesterday to compare.)
Dated Brent Spot $60.22, up $1.14
WTI Cushing Spot $60.95, up $.87
The decline in gas prices remains about a month ahead of similar declines last year. The national average is currently about 30 cents less than at this point last year. The low point last year was about $2.12 and occurred in early December so if current trends continue we could see a similar national average by election day.
I have begun to see stories discounting pre-election manipulation in gas prices. While gas prices are currently being affected by factors like end of summer price declines, a cooling economy, the absence of Gulf hurricanes, and lessening speculative pressure on oil, this does not preclude Republican friendly timing in price declines orchestrated by the oil companies. In fact, the variety of possible influences on gas prices actually makes it easier for such manipulation to take place as the past history of convenient price changes always seeming to favor oil company interests indicates, or perhaps they were just lucky.
Oil prices continue to circle the $60 mark.
“mainstream media diet”? Can one OD on the Purple Pill?
1,270 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Nix:
I wonder if it has occurred to people like Jeff Feldman that maybe the “big folks” with money will never be excited about electing progressives…maybe in fact, we progressives should be aiming to create a system where money and the “big folks” have only one person one vote.
It’s time to understand that the new politics is not new if it plays the same game directed by the same forces as the old politics.
The possibility of a “new” progressive politics is growing in proportion to the structural changes in institutions of communication…if the web does indeed replace the corporate print and cable businesses in importance if not completely, then, the degree to which the new medium is different from the old will be it’s freedom from the forces of the market as we now know it.
In other words dear, if the new medium of communication is to be a force to reshape politics as we know it it will also have to be a force in reshaping capitalism…this is why “net neutrality” is more threatenin’ to the “big folks” than alternative energy or nuclear free economies and societies.
KEEP THE FAITH AND TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER, THE BAD GUYS AIN’T GOIN’ DOWN EASILY!!!
moeman @ 34
Hmm, that’s his blog. He’s done this before and it wasn’t the entire thing. The “official” transcript will be up tomorrow.
moeman @ 34
Thanks for the link, moeman.
Awesome rant, Keith!
Okay. I just emailed MSNBC in support of Keith Olbermann. I’m still blown away by his commentary tonight. And incredibly grateful.
Jennifer, I just signed up to be a pollworker.
dab from CT @ 40
excellent! now only 499,999 to go. Let’s go FDL!
Another great piece, Jennifer. I’m glad to see you are still hitting hard and chipping away at the biases.
I like Jeffrey’s idea. I don’t know if a trainer will work. Maybe a party thrown by bloggers where there is discussion and fun, and then projected navigation of some successful blogs. Talk about the readership and the trajectory of success. The organic nature of how these things grow, in some ways unpredicably. The way that blogs mimic human thought and interaction and decision-making and how they gather momentum for action in a collective way.
EvilDrPuma @ 27
Things are getting at least, mildly odd.
So can we send Keith some flowers and chocolate tomorrow?
Jennifer — I agree the bloggers are making a big difference and filling an important role. I had a happenstance meeting with the local democratic precint captain in my area. She was really quite busy telling me all the rumors about the new mayor but could not think of anything I might be able to do to help the local democratic party. To actually make any kind of difference, I had to get involved with the national bloggers and now am attempting to get involved more with local bloggers. I saw what happened with the Connecticut bloggers via FireDogLake. It works. Don’t much care what the entrenched say about it.
It’s really on the same wavelength as Colbert’s “Reality has a well-known liberal bias.” Blogs are further left because, in reality, so is the population. We have a govt that completely ignores 49% of the voters, in entirety. Add in all the people who don’t vote and we have a hugely frustrated populace.
Like others who have been dragged into political activism by this wrecking crew Administration, I can handle differences of opinion. What I can’t handle is utter incompetence! Hubris, arrogance, failure.
Their days are numbered, while our numbers will continue to grow.
OT (or not) but way back when, Olbermann was the only MSCM person who did significant reporting on vote fraud. Alas, he dropped the story. I wish he’d take that one up again..
http://www.progressivesociety.com/blog/?postid=7
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This has nothing to do with journalism and everything to do with punditry and the conflation of the two. Pundits by and large are not journalists. But by lumping them in with journalists they gain a respectability. Its sort of like a gated community. And the gatekeepers don’t like the fact that blogs allow anyone to express an opinion. Not only that, but they let anyone pass judgment, fact check etc what they read in the filtered media. This is very threatening.
So honestly, if an old media sees itself being displaced by a new one, if it sees that its exclusivity is evaporating why would you expect anything but hostility from it? To expect favorable coverage from them is really quite silly. Those buggy makers just loved the first cars didn’t they? They are going to fight a rear guard action to discredit the entire concept. The degree of their savagery is going to be directly proportional to their desperation. Its a good sign that we are driving them nuts. These elite opinion mongers are only as good as their opinions. As good as the reasoning and ideas behind them. What they fear is a true marketplace of ideas rather than some sort of twisted old boys club. Blogs are just a tool to open up the marketplace of ideas.
Well said, SW.
Every time I read an MSM outlet trashing bloggers and the readers it pisses me off. The reason it pisses me off is because without thought and investigation they trash American voters and their own readers.
It would fabulous if one day the MSM realize exactly whom they are insulting. Maybe then they can stop screwing the pooch so badly.
I was thinking this morning that blogs like FDL are somewhere close to Committees of Corrrespondence: blogs pass the word and get people to organize. They also let us talk across the country and around the world, to find out what’s going on that won’t be on the news (mostly because it doesn’t fit the government’s picture of reality).
A lot of journamalists don’t get that.
I serve a congregation whose average age is 70. They are hungry for the information I am giving them about the blogs. Had a session yesterday after the service to get them to kick off group discussions of 50 Simple Things and 25 people stayed for it. (there were maybe 80 at worship). From that session came commitments to start a regular group to talk through the book and the actions in it; a volunteer to set up a screening of Iraq For Sale; and a couple of people interested in starting a Drinking Liberally on the lower Cape. Not bad for a one hour meeting.
Oct. 28 is the district Fall meeting on Social Justice. I’ve agreed to give a workshop on blogging and online organizing. People want to find ways to get involved. We need to be out there talking it up and helping them learn.
a few points about six degrees of perry bacon that i made over at skippy:
i was blogging back in 2002, and i came late to the party, so for perry bacon jr (isn’t that a sandwich at the san francisco burger king?) to say liberal blogging started two years ago is totally up his you know what. even if he meant “oh that’s when a whole bunch of people really got into it,” then for him to write the next sentence as “blogs like dkos and mydd grew rapidly” is, as i say, disengenuous at best and downright wrong at worst (dabadwaw).
he also propagates the false meme that lamont is far behind lieberman in the polls as proof that liberal netroots are not effective. i suppose the truth (that rassmussen and arg both have the two candidates tied) would be directly opposing to his premise, ie, it would prove that libblogs are actually quite effective.
worse, bacon says “the rightroots movement is only just getting started.” total bs. instapundit, cap. quarters, et al, were all working furiously when i first started in 2002, and peaked about three years ago. this is only because of the market place, bacon, less people like to read lefty blogs way more than righty blogs. deal with it, or at least admit it on the pixels of time.com.
lastly, and steve gilliard pounds this point already on his blog, as does stirling newberry over at tpm cafe, perry pretends that blogging activists have only just now become activists, when markos, to name just one, has always admitted that getting dems elected was priority one, over spreading agenda. no leftist blogger i know only sits in their pj’s in their parents’ basement.
that’s for the rightists.
angie - is that for the testimony from the retired military?
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It looks like Germany is getting pressure to issue warrants in the el-Masri case Newsweek article and WHY ISN’T THIS HUGE NEWS?
Has any administration every ended up with 40 of its representatives the subject of warrants for criminal activity in two countries?
I don’t guess Canada is planning on anything? I noticed that they have tried, here, recently to sell the “Arar was a legal deporation” theme. Just how many legal deporations involve drugging and cutting off clothes, and escort to toture detention, all the while obscuring from an ally and country of citizenship just where we have the guy?
Apparently both Fran Townsend and Powell chewed out the last PM in Canada bc he complained about Arar and they told him it was a “joint decision.”
Then Powell contacted him later to apologize and indicated that it had been all the US.
Really interesting if you read the opinion in Arar. You can see that the DOJ crew sold a bill of goods to the Judge there, who wrote in some detail about how the state secrets had such validity bc it would be such a huge diplomotic issue if the US had to come forward and say, “Canada made us do it” or “Canada was in on it with us.”
Is there any Federal Judge in NY, VA or DC that doesn’t have their own, personal Bill of Sale from a DOJ? Why do they keep believing them - they are starting to look like an army of Charlie Browns, all still with starry eyed belief that Lucy won’t be moving the football this time.
*sigh*
P J Evans @ 52
But the Committees of Correspondence never had such cool boots.
Awesome. Keith Olbermann is a force. Brutal, brilliant, and beautiful!
Oh_My_God. Wow…..
Cozumel @
38
Sorry Coz, looked like the real deal when I read it. Thnx for the clarification. If there’s more its bonus!
C&L has the video!!!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/
Olbermann’s Special Comment: Are YOURS the actions of a true American?
http://www.crooksandliars.com/
Video ; )
I just signed up to be a pollworker too! Between KO’s comment tonight and Jennifer’s post, I felt absolutely compelled to do so.
LOL moeman
Ya out gunned me with C&L ; )
rat bastahd @ 46
“…wrecking crew Administration…”
Great image - wish I’d said that.
In my dreams
Yes, Mary @ 55 and it is jaw droppingly honest. I watched the whole thing and though I may not agree with their feeling that a continued military presence is the only real solution to the debacle that this admin created, they are blunt and the testimony is truly damning.
Not one of them spares the admin or the Congress. The torture and widespread killing of Iraqis is blamed on the administration. Batiste also lays the blame for our dead soldiers at the feet of Rumsfeld. Worth the time to see and hear the truth, imho.
SW @ 49
I am not of the opinion that all mainstream media coverage is bad, but I am all for answering the attacks that do come, and for blog communities being more proactive in reaching out to more of their fellow citizens whenever possible, and fighting the bad press about blogs. I believe that with outreach and continued effort on our parts, that media will be held more accountable. I am not a proponent of professional media going away. I think blogs are a democratic follow-through on what media does or does not report. And a way for us to communicate with each other. And, I do see some reporters and such from corporate media world starting to get it. But it will take diligence and passion on our parts to keep making our case.
Prairie Sunshine @ 18
Negroponte:
8 minutes ago.
“But Bush administration officials including Negroponte are contesting the media accounts, saying they describe only a portion of the conclusions and therefore distort the analysts’ findings on trends in global terrorism.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....telligence
Hey Jennifer,
I mostly lurk, but tonight I have to say that I sat down with a friend and did the blogger “personal trainer” bit with her Friday night. I showed her around many of our favorite neighborhoods. She was wowed and impressed, and after the second glass of wine, wondered why she wasn’t connected before. It was a joy to watch her increasing interest.
Great idea. Sometimes you just have to SHOW people something. So many of us are visual learners that the “showing” makes it real.
riiight, ok Mr. Negroponte spa man, suuure.
Go sit at your club and shut up.
1,270 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Holy Batshit…Olbermann declared war on the fascists and named names and almost begged ‘em ta come after ‘im.
For those of you who have some kinda religion that includes prayer…ya might be sayin’ a bunch for Keith’s health and safety. No joke folks, they’re gunna come after ‘im and it’s gunna be right out in front of everyone.
KEEP THE FAITH AND LET’S TAKE CARE OF OURS, THIS IS GUNNA GET REAL BAD IN A HURRY!!
Cozumel @ 61
Like you Coz, I’m just spreadin’ good news. Its one thing to read (and copy and paste and email) Olberman’s truthfully hurting words but its quite another to just sit back, watch and listen (and link).
RevDeb @ 53
That’s wonderful. My mother is 76 and understanding and using the Internet has broadened her horizons tremendously - particularly since she has become partially handicapped. She loves getting links from my sister and me - and then sending them on to her friends.
It’s a great communication tool for those who can’t get out and about as much as they used to. My mother can continue her activism without as much physical wear and tear.
moeman @ 71
He called Chris Wallace a Monkey (among other things)
Bwahahahaha
Jennifer Nix @ 22
In my haste to write, and not wanting to rattle on, I expressed it badly. By “keeping on,” I meant do more of what we’re already doing, which is reaching out, speaking out, writing, chipping away at the ossification surrounding things like Time.
As an ex-print reporter, I am particularly pained by the shortsightedness and narrow focus of the traditional media, but I recognize that the real innovations do and will come from outside the establishment that contains most of what Mr. & Mrs. America think of as “the media.”
Meanwhile, I continue to read, even though I don’t often post, and places like Firedoglake keep me from trying to bang my head against the wall too often.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 67
The testimony this afternoon from various senior military officers who have served in Iraq puts the lie to that particular spin. Iraq is a disaster of this administration’s making and it has increased terrorism and our vulnerability to future attacks.
The extent to which Powell and Tenet were used still manages to surprise me.
Canada Told US No Known Ties to Al-Qaeda
Interesting. And yet we still we had the Judge in the Arar case here saying
And finally tonight, a Special Comment about President Clinton’s interview. The headlines about them are, of course, entirely wrong. It is not essential that a past President, bullied and sandbagged by a monkey posing as a newscaster, finally lashed back.
It is not important that the current President’s “portable public chorus” has described his predecessor’s tone as “crazed.”
Our tone should be crazed. The nation’s freedoms are under assault by an administration whose policies can do us as much damage as Al-Qaeda; the nation’s “marketplace of ideas” is being poisoned, by a propaganda company so blatant that Tokyo Rose would’ve quit. Nonetheless.
The headline is this: Bill Clinton did what almost none of us have done, in five years. He has spoken the truth about 9/11, and the current presidential administration.
Y’know, these guys know who bloggers are, but they’re just plain a-skeered to say so.
Blogging is the 21st century version of pamphleteering in colonial times.
The Republicans are the British.
The Beltway Democrats are the Tories.
The rest are just hungry for some real news and some truth and some relief from British rule.
Even I can figure that out.
When Negroponte comes out of the swimming pool and then the steam room, let’s ask him - what part of “The Army is broken” don’t you understand?
Today Rayne had a comment about how she had called Levin’s office and the staffer told her to look for the Specter-Levin amendment on line. She had looked and it was not anywhere.
I thought to myself, wow– what an assumption and answer. The staffer had no knowledge of the text and sent her on line. Lots of people can’t/won’t/don’t have access to the internet. That’s a huge obstacle realistically and psychologically and an easy out for a flippant staffer. It is a way to throw up obstacles for the common man/woman so they cannot be involved or informed even when they try.
Jennifer Nix — you know, I think Perry was WAY off the mark on his “bloggers not kingmakers” comment.
Two words: HOWARD DEAN.
The power of blogs escalated him to a lead during the primaries, although it could not be sustained because of inadequate ground game and a combination of media and intra-party backstabbing.
But bloggers did provide the leverage he needed to become the chairman of the DNC.
The folks who were hard-core Deaniacs were overwhelmingly better read, more internet-savvy than the rest of their party counterparts; it’s what enabled them to organize and get Dean elected to the chairmanship, in spite of their less-than-critical mass within the party.
We Deaniacs — and our counterparts in MoveOn — have been steadily working towards building upon that strength, while organizing from the inside out inside the party. We’ve turned on many of the folks with whom we work in the grassroots to reading blogs, and even turn them into bloggers as well. It’s cultural change, which doesn’t come as rapidly as we like, but it is gradually becoming the community infrastructure we’ve been missing that our opponents supply through their fundamentalist churches.
We are kingmakers, we bloggers and readers — but it is not what we set out to do per se. We are merely realizing what the good doctor Howard Dean reminded us: We have the power to take our country back.
If Perry was at all right in that incredibly cheesy and outright LAZY article he wrote, it’s that we are really something else, something entirely new that does not yet have a title, can’t be articulated. We are the birth of direct representation in democracy, we are its doulas and nursemaids.
Tonight I had the chance to coach one-on-one a candidate running for a House seat; I read from a blog post, pointed out the salient bits, printed it for him to put in his pocket notebook to use in his next speaking engagement. I dug up a Congressional District map, discussed the issue of gerrymandering in relation to current and future races, and what the impact of a population crash in our state may do to the electoral college.
I would never have had the chance to do this had I not been a blogger, who tripped on the Dean campaign, became a Deaniac, who in turn was coached by Dean to get more involved in the Democratic Party.
Kingmaker? maybe not…but find me a better word for it.
Good post, Jennifer! I signed up and was certified recently to be a polling commissioner. I can’t wait!
Cozumel @
73
Kudos to KO for calling out one smirking chimp defending another. No offense to real monkeys but its said that they like to throw their feces through their cages.
NorskeFlamethrower @ 70
Most importantly - he called Bush a liar and a COWARD.
Negroponte is the consummate cool, calm and collected lunatic.
Thanks angie. I thought that was it.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 85
They pretty much all are until you rile them up a bit. Listen to Perle, Cheney, Kristol, Weyrich, and especially Ledeen. All very soft-spoken, laid-back, self-assured, no hint of violence, smooth as a baby’s butt. Not even a hint of wild-eyed radicalism in the bunch.
They all come off looking rational and reasonable because no one’s thinking about what they’re actually saying and doing.
I think they have to pass a course in it before they can appear in public….
angie #80 — and I am SO not done with that.
I am going to hunt them down and spank them for that. I couldn’t do it at the time, but you better believe I am going to have a chat as soon as I can get one-on-one with the communications person in the local office.
It was more important that I spend my time on my letter to Levin and getting it on the fax, outlining my reasons for rejecting the existing torture bills, and asking for any and all action to obstruct them or mitigate their damage, including filibuster, insertion of poison pill amendments, or invoking Senate Rule 16.4 if the opposition decides to take an end-run and insert the torture bill into an appropriations bill.
KO. Wow.
“It’s deep, and I don’t think it’s playable.”
Oklahoma kiddo @ 67
They have made us less safe but on the good side they want to torture.
If you want an idea on how far to the left we need to push things . . . got a newsletter today from the “grassroots” section of an insurance trade organization. It urged its members to elect a “pro-business” Congress, while warning that just because there has been a Republican-controlled Congress, doesn’t mean it’s been “pro-business”. Apparently, the last Congress has exhibited some sort of antipathy toward business, which need to be rectified. I guess all the R’s as well as the Bidens and Libermans still don’t add up to a majority?